Interstate 84 (Oregon)

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Control City Freak

Control City Freak

Жыл бұрын

Interstate 84 used to be known as 80N, and connects Portland (and Seattle) to the interior West and Midwest. It's Oregon section is one of the most beautiful stretches of Interstate anywhere! Control City Freak is updated weekly and covers every two digit Interstate Highway in America. I'll be showing control city signs on each 1 and 2 digit (2di) Interstate Highway in the continental United States and will strive to make as complete a record as possible. I'll also be getting into the roadgeek weeds here and there, showing downtown skylines and state border crossings, and making corny jokes. I welcome all to join my geeky tour of every primary Interstate in the country!
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@pauldelorean4339
@pauldelorean4339 11 ай бұрын
the way he says The Dalles hurts my Oregonian heart
@bagenstb
@bagenstb Жыл бұрын
The way Todd says "yeah" at the beginning of most of his videos is very satisfying.
@dcarlone2699
@dcarlone2699 Жыл бұрын
I say it to myself out of habit now lmao.
@dhinton1
@dhinton1 Жыл бұрын
@@dcarlone2699 😂😂😂😂
@ryl-ie
@ryl-ie Жыл бұрын
Finally I-84! I was born in one of cities along this line, so I’m super excited for you to showcase it! While ORDOT makes some really interesting choices signage wise, there’s no denying I-84 is one of the most beautiful roads in the country!
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@DDBurnett1
@DDBurnett1 Жыл бұрын
Wow, I really expected you to rip into The Dalles for being the main control city in Portland. (Btw, it's pronounced "DOWZ", not DAL-lees.) Fully agree that all of the eastbound signs should be double-signed to include Boise.
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
I did too, but the research won me over.
@hootilyhoot
@hootilyhoot Жыл бұрын
Dows? The Dalls. 50 year native Oregonian.
@solarguy1702
@solarguy1702 Жыл бұрын
When I was a kid in Oregon, I -84 was known as I-80N.
@benjaminchandler7919
@benjaminchandler7919 Жыл бұрын
97 from Yakima to Bend should be an interstate. maybe part of the one CA is building through the Central Valley? I’m thinking maybe it can follow 99 up to Sacramento, then go through Yuba City and Chico, be concurrent with I-5 until weed and follow 97 to Yakima, and then take over 82 from Yakima to Ellensburg
@drivingbritt9617
@drivingbritt9617 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video and bringing some awesome memories back to me! :)
@GardcoreLegend
@GardcoreLegend Жыл бұрын
I-84 in Oregon deserves the attention all alone because it is a beautiful drive.
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
It is for sure
@ubadahoop
@ubadahoop 5 ай бұрын
Can confirm the Columbia Gorge Discovery Center is a fantastic museum.
@ClaytonThomas
@ClaytonThomas Жыл бұрын
Great video! I-84 is one of my favorites! I'm from Idaho Falls, Idaho, and I've been looking forward to this video for awhile.
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@DotheDew221
@DotheDew221 4 ай бұрын
The pronunciation of The Dalles kills me 🥲🥲
@ryanh603
@ryanh603 Жыл бұрын
I drove on 84 today coming in on 82 from WA, all the way to Ontario and back. The Dalles is pronounced “the dalls”, the “ee” is silent. The curves on Deadman Pass is actually Cabbage Hill climbing in & out of Pendleton.
@tylermarchand2996
@tylermarchand2996 Жыл бұрын
ryanh603 Exactly. The pass is actually several miles to the east. I know this segment well. I have family in Walla Walla, which is accessed from the first exit at the base of Cabbage Hill.
@ivanoffw
@ivanoffw Жыл бұрын
Thank you for mentioning how The Dalles is pronounced. For as many times he mentions the City, I would have thought he would figure out how to pronounce it.
@ryanh603
@ryanh603 Жыл бұрын
@@tylermarchand2996 one of these days, maybe in the spring or summer, I would love to take a drive on Old Emigrant Road to see the back country around the Blue Mountains. I’m not sure if Emigrant Rd is the old US30 before 80N/84 was built. I’ve been on the back highways out of LaGrande and Baker City a few years back, got to see much of Wallowa County especially Enterprise, Joseph, Halfway and of course Hell’s Canyon. I like 84 through the gorge and LaGrande but really detest the desert highland from Pendleton to Boardman because of the drabness and high winds.
@Vincent-ke5zn
@Vincent-ke5zn Жыл бұрын
Very beautiful scenery, I love your pictures. Very enjoyable video
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@maryriley2879
@maryriley2879 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the video, lots of informational info.
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jayverti
@jayverti Жыл бұрын
Excited to hear your thoughts on the east coast I-84 - I've driven it many a time!
@dcarlone2699
@dcarlone2699 Жыл бұрын
Every day for me lol.
@eljefecom
@eljefecom Жыл бұрын
According to exit number math, Interstate 82 and Oregon 82 are conveniently 82 miles apart.
@aaronholcomb237
@aaronholcomb237 Жыл бұрын
In Arkansas on I-40, Exit 64 is for US 64
@drivingbritt9617
@drivingbritt9617 Жыл бұрын
First view! Oh how I remember riding on this route on the way to Astoria, OR with my mom and on the way back to Louisiana with my mom and brother after picking him up in Astoria back in 2015. Great memories. :)
@judithjanes5738
@judithjanes5738 Жыл бұрын
It's pronounced The Dow-ls (rhymes with PALS), named by French-Canadian trappers for the rapids there in the early 1800s.
@roadgeek1961
@roadgeek1961 Жыл бұрын
Remembered back in 1980 when AASHTO asked states with Suffix roads to change them 2 digits roads I 80 N became I 84 . Nice scenic route 👌. Portland, Eugene, Salem and Bend are probably the only best places people heard of in Oregon. Bend the last Blockbuster. Also home of two former teachers who started the 80s band Quarterflash. The city's going east are slim Pickens. Probably only a good aid for traveler services. Truck Stops, Gas stations, restaurants and motels. Looking forward to next week so I can say " It's 8 o'clock in Boise Idaho, mister take us to the show.
@aricclarkk
@aricclarkk 8 ай бұрын
the way he says Dalles is so funny to me
@c.t.turner2123
@c.t.turner2123 Жыл бұрын
I-84 Western As a retired OTR Driver and loaded heavy, it was a pain to drive especially on the hills in winter. The Ice fog was an interesting detail of driving that route. The Oregon DOT was another story at the POE west of Ontario. Scenery was awesome and the view going up or down Cabbage was breathtaking. Idaho has a lot of great Mom Restaurants along it, especially in Idaho. From Twin Falls to I-15 in Utah, ehhhhhhh. From I-15 to I-80, the gorge is pretty, a lot of people tubing.down the river when it gets warm.
@robertjonas6216
@robertjonas6216 Жыл бұрын
I’m not retired yet. Drive this frequently. 84 can be tricky in winter. It’s all about knowing where to shut down
@CrystalClearWith8BE
@CrystalClearWith8BE Жыл бұрын
To be more specific, I-84 Western used to be signed as I-80N OR-ID-UT until 1980. It parallels and overlaps US 30 from Portland, OR to near Delco, ID and travels on it's own towards Ogden, UT and ends east at I-80/US 189 in Echo, UT.
@ClaytonThomas
@ClaytonThomas Жыл бұрын
It also follows the Oregon trail through Oregon and Idaho.
@BhChicagoTVStationhistoriesand
@BhChicagoTVStationhistoriesand Жыл бұрын
I agree with you on the portion of 84 that runs RiGHT alongside the Columbia River being sone of the most scenic and beautiful stretch of interstate in the country! Here and I-70 through the Western half of Colorado would be top 2 most scenic stretches of interstate. Most folks don’t realize at all that with the exceptions of when you pass through Hood River and The Dalles-84 turns in a bit more Southwest away from the River through those spots-you’re running again RIGHT along the River from not far West of Pendleton all the way to Portland! Everyone should take that drive if they can, it’s spectacular!
@mark99k
@mark99k Жыл бұрын
Baker City, La Grande, and Ontario were a surprise to me; they're all pretty small places, barely 10,000. Makes no sense not to sign Boise there. I hadn't thought ODOT was so afraid to sign places beyond its borders. You're excused for messing up Dalles -- it's pronounced as if there's no E. Safe bet, when you do the other part of 84 (my hometown region) the city names will be pretty easy to get right!
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
They did the same thing on 5, signing Ashland til the end
@tylermarchand2996
@tylermarchand2996 Жыл бұрын
Control City Freak In all fairness though, east of Gresham, the only I-84 community that comes close to Ashland’s population of 21k is Hermiston with 17k. Plus, Ashland is a college town (Southern Oregon University) that hosts a major annual event: the Oregon Shakespeare Festival. A quarter billion dollars in economic revenue for a city a quarter the size of Medford is no small feat.
@DDBurnett1
@DDBurnett1 Жыл бұрын
Washington is the only state that gets any love from ODOT (even then, it’s pretty much limited to Seattle.) There’s indifference towards Idaho, very few roads entering Nevada, and California is the devil.
@Ndalum07
@Ndalum07 Жыл бұрын
Awesome scenery. We need a CALTRANS-esque “The Dalles/Other River Cities” sign coming out of Portland.
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
That could work!
@mxderate
@mxderate Жыл бұрын
lol that would be cool
@spellcast1391
@spellcast1391 Жыл бұрын
That’s an awesome pick.
@alexandermelendez1661
@alexandermelendez1661 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@winterbonnie_8
@winterbonnie_8 Ай бұрын
Gonna be honest, I didn't even know the road I had traveled on when I was 15 to go to Multnomah Falls was even I-84, never really paid attention to the Interstate System as much as I do now, pretty interesting to see it covered in this video
@CaseyGpdx
@CaseyGpdx Күн бұрын
4:59 they replaced the signs since the ones shown here were pretty worn. Still same cities but they did add a sign saying Kennewick Spokane next right witch is like lipstick on a pig
@dennisyoung4631
@dennisyoung4631 7 ай бұрын
“Never a *Dalles* moment…”
@briancatanzaro6053
@briancatanzaro6053 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Western I-84 has many cool attractions. It will be interesting to compare both I-84's.
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah they are pretty different.
@briancatanzaro6053
@briancatanzaro6053 Жыл бұрын
Both I-84's are nice, but I-84 in Oregon is definitely my favorite. I am looking forward to Western I-86 soon. 😀
@miked31784
@miked31784 Жыл бұрын
Glad that you split I-84 Western section. This is the last trip in Oregon for you! Next time will be your last trip to Utah. Hopefully 84 in the northeast is easier for you and your first trip to Connecticut, Massachusetts and New England.
@j.s.7335
@j.s.7335 Жыл бұрын
The Columbia River Gorge is one of my 4 favorite drives. I think everyone who can should spend 2-3 days driving it (on Historic Columbia River Highway) because it's so convenient to the Portland airport. Few sights of great natural beauty are so convenient to a major airport, and certainly few, if any, as spectacular.
@jimcoddington4100
@jimcoddington4100 Жыл бұрын
Hey Todd, before the I82 video, we haven’t been in Oregon since the Interstate 5 videos.
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
True!
@dcarlone2699
@dcarlone2699 Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for the PA-MA I-84 vid!
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
Gonna be cool!
@CaseyGpdx
@CaseyGpdx Ай бұрын
Honestly it kinda does make sense to sign small towns at random exits because most traffic getting on the freeway from those roads are people who live in the countryside going into whatever town is signed
@newflyer2198
@newflyer2198 Жыл бұрын
The I-84's in Oregon and right here in Connecticut are where they REALLY shine as their respective portions spend the most time in those states.
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
For sure
@StephCurrysIsAFilthyCoon
@StephCurrysIsAFilthyCoon Жыл бұрын
Too bad us massachuettsians only get 8 miles worth of I-84 it’d be worth what we could see if it was long enough compared to PA, NY, CT at least I own the 1981-1982 Connecticut guidebook with I-86 and I-84 to providence
@jacob07221
@jacob07221 Жыл бұрын
i love his vids and its fun to see i84 when i live in portland and road tripped to SLC and beyond many times but my god the way he pronounces The Dalles gives me an anneurism. its "the d-ah-lz" ah as in the word apple
@tmattix65
@tmattix65 Жыл бұрын
I grew up in the Portland area and have since moved away. Every time I go back I always make the drive from Portland to Hood River on I-84. Such a beautiful drive through the gorge.
@tmattix65
@tmattix65 Жыл бұрын
Also, pretty sure the E in The Dalles is silent. But I’ve never really been there either. But great video!
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@pacificostudios
@pacificostudios Жыл бұрын
Amtrak's Empire Builder, Portland Section (Trains 27/28) uses the BNSF mainline (ex-SP&S) along the north bank of the Columbia. The tracks along I-84 are Union Pacific. Just to clarify that for people.
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
Oh cool, didn’t realize the Portland section went into Washington.
@pacificostudios
@pacificostudios Жыл бұрын
@@ControlCityFreak - Yes, the Builder's Portland Section crosses the Columbia and stops at Vancouver, WA before progressing along the north bank to Pasco. If you ever buy a train ticket with destinations between Chicago and Spokane, you may often find be booked onto Train 27/28 instead of Train 7/8. They are one train east of Spokane, so the difference is irrelevant through that portion of route.
@mxderate
@mxderate Жыл бұрын
I love the Empire Builder. I've only been on the Seattle section. Would love to take the Portland section one day.
@dvferyance
@dvferyance 2 ай бұрын
@@mxderate I was on the Portland section although I was only 7.
@mxderate
@mxderate 2 ай бұрын
@@dvferyance Nice. I saw the Briggs video of him on the Empire Builder solely to get tacos at Havre. It looks nice
@samsticka
@samsticka 3 ай бұрын
I-84 roughly follows the Oregon Trail.
@jordanjones5751
@jordanjones5751 9 ай бұрын
Here’s Speedboy14’s the way it should be for I-84 (Oregon) East bound: The Dalles/Boise, Boise West bound: Portland/Seattle (until I-82), Portland
@samseddmedia
@samseddmedia Жыл бұрын
Todd's "The Way It Should Be" has very solid control cities for I-84. Eastbound: Boise Westbound: Portland/ Seattle Portland I'm just listing the primary control cities, not the secondaries.
@mxderate
@mxderate Жыл бұрын
Literally couldn't agree more with this list.
@charleswesterfieldii4592
@charleswesterfieldii4592 Жыл бұрын
The part of I-84 I've been on is in the east. We were on it from Port Jervis, NY to Hartford, CT. Guessing that's the next video.
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
Gotta finish this 84 first
@danadnauseam
@danadnauseam Жыл бұрын
The Dalles is pronounced as one syllable.
@jasonputerbaugh9965
@jasonputerbaugh9965 Жыл бұрын
84 looks like a beautiful road. Much better than my I 35 in Missouri 😂
@ReallyBadDriving
@ReallyBadDriving Жыл бұрын
I've never driven on this I-84 but I have driven on the other one. This I-84 is most definitely the good one.
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@PhilipJReed-db3zc
@PhilipJReed-db3zc Жыл бұрын
If you live in the Boston area then having a more direct freeway than 95 to New York City is kind of nice (if you even choose to drive). But yeah, for scenery, no contest.
@ReallyBadDriving
@ReallyBadDriving Жыл бұрын
@@PhilipJReed-db3zc I lived in Connecticut for years and drove on I-84 almost everyday. I-84 is one of the worst interstates I've ever driven on. The only thing that sucks about I-95 in CT is the traffic.
@davetissue
@davetissue Жыл бұрын
the railroad track used by Amtrak Empire Builder is actually on the Washington side of the river - the train first goes to Vancouver WA after leaving Portland before turning east
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
Interesting!
@ryanh603
@ryanh603 Жыл бұрын
Empire Builder route splits westbound from Spokane. The Portland spur parallels 395 down to Pasco and then skirts the Columbia on the WA side until it crosses into OR from Vancouver; while the north spur continues through the cascades to Seattle without the observation car that goes with the Portland spur route. My wife and I took a train ride on Amtrak from Pasco to Portland a few years back, it’s truly a beautiful ride.
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
@@ryanh603 Definitely want to do that sometime, it looks awesome
@S_Over_Street
@S_Over_Street Жыл бұрын
This is a beautiful drive through the state of OR. Control Cities in OR are sorta similar to Colorado. Only marking small cities or small towns in the state until you get very close to the state line. I-5 is similar too as south of Eugene (especially Southbound I-5), they mainly note Roseburg, Grants Pass, Medford. On I-84, Boise ID should be the control city starting around I-82 interchange near Herminson. It is all towns anyways along I-84 in OR
@mxderate
@mxderate Жыл бұрын
Boise should be the control city from Portland. Not just 82.
@benjaminchandler7919
@benjaminchandler7919 Жыл бұрын
For next week, the north end of the concurrency with I-15 is pronounced Tree-mon-tin with a short o. It was named after Tremont, IL which rhymes with Fremont. The last syllable was added to avoid confusion with Fremont in central Utah
@benjaminchandler7919
@benjaminchandler7919 Жыл бұрын
Also Weiser Idaho is pronounced the same way as River Cuomo’s rock band
@benjaminchandler7919
@benjaminchandler7919 Жыл бұрын
Last one I-15’s control city north of Tremonton is “poke a tell o” I don’t know what a “tello” is but Pokey’s real name is a command to poke one
@OJGamingYT
@OJGamingYT Жыл бұрын
The Dal-Eaze LOL, it's Dall-Z. Great video though.
@CaseyGpdx
@CaseyGpdx 8 ай бұрын
The way I think it should be: at the connection with i5 and 205 it should say Gresham/the dalles then it should be the dalles and Boise
@tylermarchand2996
@tylermarchand2996 Жыл бұрын
Yep, there’s a lot to I 84 in Oregon. Have driven the portion from Ontario to exit 216 at the base of Cabbage Hill (that’s the actual name of the segment where 84 splits far apart; Deadman Pass is actually several miles to the east, far enough out that the climbing lane for eastbound traffic ends BEFORE the summit) countless times, as it is part of the shortest route between Reno (where I live) and my mom’s family in Walla Walla. That segment has the tightest curves allowed on the Interstate system. Most of what you said for control cities makes sense, but there’s a big caveat I should add regarding the I 82 junction. Westbound, I’d keep it as just KENNEWICK for a major reason: the U.S. 395 split in Kennewick is a critical crossroads for Seattle AND Spokane. Intuitively, you’d think that Boise traffic headed to Spokane would use U.S. 95 and U.S. 195, as it is somewhat of a straight line. However, this route is EXTREMELY mountainous, and 2 lane for a significant chunk (despite U.S. 95 being the only major N-S thoroughfare in Western Idaho), with TWO long, significant uphill segments with over 2k foot elevation gain (one between the Salmon River and Grangeville (south of Lewiston), and the climb out of Lewiston towards Moscow and Pullman). In winter, snowfall can make the trek hazardous (Christmas 2016, while headed home from Washington, an I’ll fated detour due to 84 being closed resulted in my family being stranded in a town near Grangeville called Cottonwood for 7 hours, due to several accidents on 95); and in the summer, the heat (even this far north, triple digit temperatures are routine) combined with the long climbs can take a toll on a car’s engine. Therefore, Boise-Spokane traffic will instead use I 84 through Oregon (besides, it is 5-20 minutes faster anyways). Oh, and it isn’t much different in the opposite direction; the two 2k foot climbs are now from Lewiston to Grangeville, and the Salmon River to New Meadows (near the resort town of McCall)… My solution: have the overhead at the 82/84 split read KENNEWICK, but have a sign BEFORE the split read TO SEATTLE/SPOKANE. When U.S. 395 splits in Washington, I 82 traffic should have an overhead for YAKIMA/SEATTLE, while the U.S. 395 exit advertises for KENNEWICK/SPOKANE.
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
I think that would work if Seattle and Spokane were relatively equal traffic drivers, but they aren’t.
@benjaminchandler7919
@benjaminchandler7919 Жыл бұрын
I know you will love the signage for Cheyenne from Riverdale to Echo, but it should have a secondary. Maybe Morgan or Park City
@spellcast1391
@spellcast1391 Жыл бұрын
Cheyenne… the most OVERHYPED control city ever
@V01t2
@V01t2 Жыл бұрын
The "D'als?"😆 I know this road better than the halls of my high school
@armandoperez7967
@armandoperez7967 Жыл бұрын
I think I-95 will be so packed with info that 4 videos will probably have to be done. I can’t wait, because I-95 is my favorite interstate!
@BhChicagoTVStationhistoriesand
@BhChicagoTVStationhistoriesand Жыл бұрын
Yeah Todd’s take on 95 is gonna be REAL interesting, it has a lot of quirks through out it and takes on a life of it’s own. With his current video posting schedule he should get there around Christmas-ish. Very curious to see his opinion of it!
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
Definitely wont get to 95 that early.
@mxderate
@mxderate Жыл бұрын
I hope it is 2 (NB and SB)
@tylermarchand2996
@tylermarchand2996 Жыл бұрын
Armando Perez In another comment, Todd said that 85 will be a pain to do…
@armandoperez7967
@armandoperez7967 Жыл бұрын
@@tylermarchand2996 👍
@JustinCasavant
@JustinCasavant Жыл бұрын
7:38 nice
@DjDillPickle565
@DjDillPickle565 Жыл бұрын
Another great video! After seeing all these pictures of I-84, I think I need to drive it! These videos wonderfully showcase what 84 has to offer. Wonder if Idaho and Utah will keep up the views!
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@j.s.7335
@j.s.7335 Жыл бұрын
Make sure you drive the Historic Columbia River Highway and stop at the sights and some of the waterfalls along the way.
@AdamSmith-gs2dv
@AdamSmith-gs2dv Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the other I84. Back to PA again lol
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
lol
@DMAN_2314
@DMAN_2314 Жыл бұрын
Dave's the Way it Should Be: EAST: Boise (I could be talked into doing The Dalles/Boise but after the Dalles it should be just Boise) WEST: Seattle/Portland (until I-82), Portland (after I-82)
@mxderate
@mxderate Жыл бұрын
Solid
@GSU_Panther_Nation
@GSU_Panther_Nation Жыл бұрын
There is actually another segment of I-84 in Pennsylvania, so definitely can't wait for that sometime next Wednesday PS: At 6:04, the background of that looks somewhat like the original Windows XP background image with the stunning looking clouds
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
Whoa didn’t notice that!
@GSU_Panther_Nation
@GSU_Panther_Nation Жыл бұрын
@@ControlCityFreak that would mean for another few videos or so on I-84, as you would have to cover the Pennsylania-Massachussetts segment as well
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
@@GSU_Panther_Nation I meant the XP background thing
@GSU_Panther_Nation
@GSU_Panther_Nation Жыл бұрын
@@ControlCityFreak I get that now
@benjaminchandler7919
@benjaminchandler7919 Жыл бұрын
Kennewick deserves more control city status than it gets. It should be the control city EB from both Yakima and the Dalles, and listed on the signs on the way to the Dalles in which something beyond the Dalles is signed. Where the heck is Baker City?
@benjaminchandler7919
@benjaminchandler7919 Жыл бұрын
Also how would y’all feel about “Kennewick Washington” as a control city as I-82 is the best way to all of Washington except Vancouver?
@Deadlybattles908
@Deadlybattles908 Жыл бұрын
I 85 I can't wait
@kevinrussell3501
@kevinrussell3501 Жыл бұрын
Truckers call Deadman's Pass: Cabbage. This is especially true for the grade from the top of the hill by the weigh station to the bottom. I personally never struggled with the down grade on the west bound side as picking the proper gear and engine braking doesn't seem that difficult. Only when there's heavy fog on the hill and icing that can make it a challenge
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
Yeah looks like it can be rough
@kevinrussell3501
@kevinrussell3501 Жыл бұрын
@@ControlCityFreak the fog can be really thick at times. I think it gets stuck against the hill with how quickly the elevation changes. It goes from a few hundred feet above sea level by Pendleton to over 4000 feet near Meacham
@Bendigo1
@Bendigo1 Жыл бұрын
Deadman and cabbage hill are actually 2 separate places. Cabbage hill is the steep, long hill before the top of the hill, Deadman pass is another part past the top of cabbage hill. They were named for separate things.
@CrashTestPrivate
@CrashTestPrivate Жыл бұрын
Actually my favorite interstate highway. I drive it 4 times a year.
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@bigj200016
@bigj200016 Жыл бұрын
Dead man’s pass is often referred to as either Cabbage Pass or Hill
@tylermarchand2996
@tylermarchand2996 Жыл бұрын
Jeremy Belko Deadman Pass is actually several miles east of the curves associated with Cabbage Hill. I’ve been on this stretch countless times, so I know the difference.
@seancallahan5612
@seancallahan5612 Жыл бұрын
Very nice scenery on this road, but pretty bad control cities, as Oregon usually does.
@Suralin0
@Suralin0 Жыл бұрын
At first I was wondering why you split your I-84 Western overview into two videos. The first thought I had was, "maybe he's reluctant to go back to any part of PA for I-84E, and might want to hold it off for an extra week!" 😅
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
lol
@NeutralAngel365
@NeutralAngel365 Жыл бұрын
I actually was on the beginning of I-84 in Portland Oregon in American truck simulator
@georgemoore2952
@georgemoore2952 Жыл бұрын
I suspect Boise is not on the EB signs west of Umatilla because it is REALLY FAR, over 400 miles from Portland. There's a non-tolled bridge across the river in The Dalles and access to Bend via US-197; it's also the east end of the Historic Columbia River Highway (old US 30). Also, while 84 through the Gorge is nice, old US-30 is even better. There are two sections that are driveable: between Troutdale and Ainsworth State Park, passing Crown Point and Multnomah Falls (this section has timed entry permits in the summer) and Mossier and The Dalles, passing Rowena Crest and the Rowena Loops.
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
Those sound great, would love to check them out
@tylermarchand2996
@tylermarchand2996 Жыл бұрын
George Moore Even so, Boise really should be a bottom line even that far out. I 80 W out of SLC lists Reno (where I live), even though it is more than 500 miles out. You bring up a good point about U.S. 197 S being the direct route between The Dalles and Bend. However, it's only really direct FROM The Dalles; Portland to Bend would use U.S. 26, and Hood River to Bend would likewise use 26 via skimming the east slope of Mount Hood. Another good cutoff is U.S. 730 to shave off a few miles to the Tri Cities or Walla Walla (there's essentially no time advantage for using I 82).
@georgemoore2952
@georgemoore2952 Жыл бұрын
@@tylermarchand2996 You'd definitely use 26 to get between Portland and Bend; however if it's snowing up there, 84 to 197 is the shortest way around (SR 35 from Hood River puts you practically at Government Camp so that's not really a viable alternative in the winter). Though come to think of it, I bet truck traffic would in fact go all the way to Biggs and take 97 because there are some steep hills on 197 and some very sharp turns near Maupin. Another reason for signing The Dalles is that it's the county seat of Wasco County; that area has been inhabited by humans for 15,000 years (look up Celilo Falls).
@alexthemtaandr211weatherfa2
@alexthemtaandr211weatherfa2 Жыл бұрын
@@tylermarchand2996 interesting
@Arthur-dl2co
@Arthur-dl2co Жыл бұрын
I think I-84 western is more than twice as long as I-84 eastern. In probably 2 weeks, most will see how "lol" the control cities are on eastbound I-84 eastern. I drove western I-84 east almost 20 years ago. Recently, l saw Big Rig Travels westbound and I was amazed seeing those curves going down the mountain.
@tylermarchand2996
@tylermarchand2996 Жыл бұрын
Arthur 84E should be straightforward: Scranton, Middletown, Newburgh, Danbury, Waterbury, Hartford and Worcester.
@StephCurrysIsAFilthyCoon
@StephCurrysIsAFilthyCoon Жыл бұрын
@@tylermarchand2996 Worcester Boston? You mean I-90 not only is a good route to Worcester but it’s good to Boston aswell
@mxderate
@mxderate Жыл бұрын
@@tylermarchand2996 Boston. Not Worcester.
@tylermarchand2996
@tylermarchand2996 Жыл бұрын
Moderate Productions Okay, I’ll give you this one. I was mainly focused on how 84 dumps into 90 close to Worcester, but I guess Boston could be listed too thanks to the orientation working out. I’ll just say that Worcester should not be shafted, because it is very big. The county alone has a larger population than other sizable metros (Little Rock, Stockton, Colorado Springs, Deltona/Daytona Beach, Lakeland, Boise, Des Moines, nearby Springfield, Poughkeepsie, Syracuse, Winston-Salem, Greensboro, or Dayton). Including the NE corner of Connecticut only makes the list longer (Bakersfield, Thousand Oaks, New Haven, Cape Coral/Ft. Myers, North Port/Sarasota/Bradenton, Baton Rouge, Albuquerque, Albany, Charleston, Columbia, Greenville, Knoxville, McAllen and El Paso), as by this point, the population is creeping up towards one million…
@mxderate
@mxderate Жыл бұрын
@@tylermarchand2996 But also Boston is incredibly bigger than Worcester. And both Connecticut and Massachusetts sign it for Boston.
@Vincent-ke5zn
@Vincent-ke5zn Жыл бұрын
I drove a truck and stopped at a truckstop in Pendleton after coming down Cabbage pass on my way to Portland
@kevinrussell3501
@kevinrussell3501 Жыл бұрын
The Wild Horse casino. Not bad stop. Oregon has some pretty great truck stops. I'd probably put Jubitz in Portland as the best
@Vincent-ke5zn
@Vincent-ke5zn Жыл бұрын
@@kevinrussell3501 I've been to the Jubitz truckstop a couple of times, that's where I had the BEST waitress I've ever had, the best service ever
@benjaminchandler7919
@benjaminchandler7919 Жыл бұрын
I bet the real reason this was done in two videos to extend your break from PennDot? Not that I have a problem with that
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
Lol
@courtemanche437
@courtemanche437 Жыл бұрын
D'oh! 84 West, at 10:12. Also, why is there a link to the episode for next week in this week's video? I get that the link will work when that one is made public, but you could always edit the description afterwards, just saying.
@highway2heaven91
@highway2heaven91 Жыл бұрын
Was wondering if someone would catch that at 10:12
@courtemanche437
@courtemanche437 Жыл бұрын
Not the first time it happened either :P
@brentboswell1294
@brentboswell1294 Жыл бұрын
It's pronounced "The Dahlls". Live here, have been to The Dalles several times. Great restaurant there called Cousins Restaurant.
@catholicactionbibleonlyist1813
@catholicactionbibleonlyist1813 Жыл бұрын
Should be I-82 This road is my bucket list I know about The Dalles from book version of ken burns baseball it has a pictureof a adult Amateur teams from 1883 I have played Oregon trail from the 80's
@caseycrookham3647
@caseycrookham3647 Жыл бұрын
The Dalles, "Dalles" is pronounced with just one syllable. Thank you.
@ianb9851
@ianb9851 Жыл бұрын
Adding onto the Oregon Trail joke, I see you are opting to cover I-84 at a "steady" pace ;)
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
lol
@admirals818
@admirals818 Жыл бұрын
I hear a lot of people die of dysentery along I-84.
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
@@admirals818 lol
@afuturehobo
@afuturehobo Жыл бұрын
Just a note on "The Dalles", the 'E' is silent. You say it the same way you did, just no e.
@cparkes92
@cparkes92 Жыл бұрын
On WB I-84, should I-82 be Kennewick/Seattle or Seattle alone?
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
They have 2 now so I’d keep it 2
@aaronporter0776
@aaronporter0776 Жыл бұрын
Deadman Pass, also known as Emigrant Hill, & to us truckers, Cabbage Hill
@alexjones3511
@alexjones3511 Жыл бұрын
You plan on splitting I-84 Eastern into two videos as well or do you plan on having that just be one video?
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
Right now planning just one but I’m still in the process of making it
@armandoperez7967
@armandoperez7967 Жыл бұрын
The railroad is the Union Pacific Railroad.
@Bendigo1
@Bendigo1 Жыл бұрын
Dalles definition, pronounced dalz, rapids in a river confined by the walls of a canyon or gorge. That is what The Dalles is named from.
@TeslaNewsAndh22Vlog
@TeslaNewsAndh22Vlog Жыл бұрын
Hood River is the main city in The Gorge.
@garlandweissenfluh4549
@garlandweissenfluh4549 Жыл бұрын
The pronunciation of The Dalles is not Dalies but The Dallls. Like Dalls. Funny tho .
@dmnemaine
@dmnemaine Жыл бұрын
Small correction. It's pronounced "Dalls" not "Dallys".
@theawesomer8587
@theawesomer8587 Жыл бұрын
The way I think it should be (the entire length): East: Boise, Pocatello/SLC, Ogden/SLC, Cheyenne West: Ogden, Boise, Portland
@mxderate
@mxderate Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I would do Twin Falls/SLC instead of Pocatello.
@langstonreese7077
@langstonreese7077 Жыл бұрын
🟩=~~Regular~~ 🟫=~~Historic~~
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
Yeah but it’s a regular exit for US 30 too
@truckercowboyed2638
@truckercowboyed2638 Жыл бұрын
Did they run out of ideas for numbers so they just used 84 in the west as they have 84 in the east.....which was actually built first ??? 84 Oregon or i84 Connecticut?
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
It was 80 N before. Lots of population in the Northeast, therefore lots of roads, and a lot of the more populated areas fall between 70 and 90 on the grid. Western 84 is entirely between 80 and 90 so logically it should be an 8x. 82, 86, 88 already exist as well, so what else could it be? Nobody is going to be confused by a road in Boise and a road in Hartford having the same number.
@truckercowboyed2638
@truckercowboyed2638 Жыл бұрын
@@ControlCityFreak I agree I just wonder why they bothered changing it from 80 N......guess I always thought interstates should only have one certain area, like how i80 only goes east to west.... there's no other i80s ....love your videos see you next week
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
@@truckercowboyed2638 Thanks! Yeah they definitely can’t duplicate numbers on the long ones, just the regional ones. There might be an official rule against repeating an x0 or x5 but I’m not sure. 45 and 30 are really the only ones that theoretically could be duplicated, but no need with 47, 28, 32, and 34 still open.
@jasonfullerton7763
@jasonfullerton7763 Жыл бұрын
"The Dallz" not "The Dallies"
@armandoperez7967
@armandoperez7967 Жыл бұрын
An interstate highway is proposed for the US 97 corridor.
@armandoperez7967
@armandoperez7967 Жыл бұрын
This new highway would be from I-84 to I-5 in Weed CA. There used to be Amtrak service over this rail line from Salt Lake City to Portland and Seattle but it was cancelled.
@armandoperez7967
@armandoperez7967 Жыл бұрын
This train was called the Pioneer and was cancelled in 1997 under the Clinton Administration.
@S_Over_Street
@S_Over_Street Жыл бұрын
Maybe this is where I-11 north of Reno NV could extend to? Who knows but that would be decades away
@armandoperez7967
@armandoperez7967 Жыл бұрын
@@S_Over_Street possibly .
@ivanoffw
@ivanoffw Жыл бұрын
@@S_Over_Street I believe that I-11 would follow U.S. Route 395 though California and Oregon rather than parallel I-5 to Weed because 395 goes through Carson City, and Reno, plus it could meet up with southern end of I-82 somewhere between Hermiston and Pendleton.
@mxderate
@mxderate Жыл бұрын
I kind of wish you did EB I-84 because I wanted you to see how awful 84 was signed all at once. Because it's not signed that well until you get to Utah. Anyways, Mod's the way it should be for the ENTIRE 84 Western: (EAST): The Dalles/Boise (The Dalles should be in a smaller font size than Boise on the overhead signs though), Boise, Twin Falls/Salt Lake City (again, smaller font size for Twin Falls), Salt Lake City, Cheyenne (WEST): Ogden, Boise, Portland/Seattle (same font size), Portland
@LeviRamsey
@LeviRamsey Жыл бұрын
Have to say I was surprised by this split. Does this mean that I-86 will be done with Utah/Idaho I-84? I-86 is currently my top example of a 2di that should have been a 3di: if I-86 rates a 2di, why isn't 135 in Kansas I-33, or 369 in Texas I-47? Even I-97 at least has the possibility of being eventually extended across the Chesapeake and down to Norfolk/Virginia Beach via the CBBT (and maybe even onwards to Raleigh to replace southern I-87). Pocatello isn't much more important than Salina and is definitely less important than Annapolis and Texarkana. Treat it as the spur of I-84 that it is.
@LeviRamsey
@LeviRamsey Жыл бұрын
At this point Hermiston is becoming the main city along I-84 in Oregon east of the Cascades (partially thanks to the datacenters there: Amazon definitely and I'm pretty sure there's a reasonable chance this video is served out of a Google datacenter there as well).
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
Idaho 86 gets its own vid. 85 is gonna be exhausting to make, so very much looking forward to it!
@rolandwise30124
@rolandwise30124 Жыл бұрын
The Dalles is pronounced “dows”
@FLYSLATERYDER
@FLYSLATERYDER 11 ай бұрын
Todd have you ever noticed that I 82 is actually out of grid it should be a western 88 in the current western 88 should be central 88 in Eastern 88 can stay how it is
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak 11 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s number changed at some point, I think I talked about it in the 82 vid
@FLYSLATERYDER
@FLYSLATERYDER 11 ай бұрын
Actually, you did not talk about it
@julieduchek2969
@julieduchek2969 Жыл бұрын
You are not pronouncing Dallas. It is not dallies. It is dals.
@mammo7647
@mammo7647 29 күн бұрын
Thank you, so annoying he acts like an expert!
@stormsurgegaming1897
@stormsurgegaming1897 Жыл бұрын
I 82 west should be yakima and Seattle
@CrystalClearWith8BE
@CrystalClearWith8BE Жыл бұрын
For me, I'd sign I-84 Western as follows.: Eastbound I-84 Western: (OREGON) •The Dalles, OR -Hermiston-Pendleton, OR | •Boise, ID (IDAHO) •Boise, ID >Twin Falls, ID >Salt Lake City (for I-15) | >Pocatello, ID (for I-86 ID) (UTAH) -Ogden, UT (direct) | >Salt Lake City (for I-15) >Cheyenne, WY Westbound I-84 Western: (UTAH) -Ogden, UT -Brigham City, UT (IDAHO) >Pocatello, ID (for I-15) | •Boise, ID (direct) •Boise, ID (OREGON) •Portland, OR
@mxderate
@mxderate Жыл бұрын
I would sign The Dalles and Boise both. Not just The Dalles.
@CrystalClearWith8BE
@CrystalClearWith8BE Жыл бұрын
I have an update. I'll sign Twin Falls, ID over Boise, ID when I-15/I-84 Western split ends north.
@mxderate
@mxderate Жыл бұрын
@@CrystalClearWith8BE No. Twin Falls is okay EB, but WB it should be Boise, the way Utah does it
@CrystalClearWith8BE
@CrystalClearWith8BE Жыл бұрын
I agree that Twin Falls, ID is best for eastbound, not westbound, even though Twin Falls County, ID is just next to Boise, ID's metro area.
@nathanalbright
@nathanalbright Жыл бұрын
It's pronounced more like "The Dalls," the e is silent, how painful it is to hear you butcher it.
@danielyoung3426
@danielyoung3426 Жыл бұрын
I'm constantly amazed by presenters on KZfaq mispronouncing geographic locations. You'd think they would at the very least call someone in the location to confirm the supposed pronunciation. In this instance it isn't The Dallees. It's closer to The Dallz, but I'd check it with the local librarian or someone at city hall to be certain.
@ControlCityFreak
@ControlCityFreak Жыл бұрын
I lived in the PNW briefly and heard this mispronunciation there, that’s where I got it. I have dozens if not hundreds of place names in every episode. Sometimes I get it wrong, but I’m not going to call a bunch of city halls each week
@PSTXFL
@PSTXFL Жыл бұрын
@@ControlCityFreak since it shouldn’t be on the signage anyway it deserves to be mispronounced 😂
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