Interview with Ian Brady’s former Psychiatrist Professor Jeremy Coid | Uncut

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Thomas Gardner

Thomas Gardner

Жыл бұрын

Professor Jeremy Coid first met Moors Murderer Ian Brady at Ashworth High Security Psychiatric Hospital in Merseyside on Saturday 1st March 2003. They had mulitple conversations about life, crime and the Moors Murders case.
For the 2018 documentary film 'Ian Brady: From Method to Madness', award-winning filmmaker Thomas Gardner traveled to London where he was granted an interview with Professor Coid to speak about Brady at length.
At the time the interview was conducted, the Moors Murders case was a big talking point in the British media as Ian Brady had only just died of natural causes.
Cinematography - Matthew Chadbourne
Directed by - Thomas Gardner

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@tomdgardner96
@tomdgardner96 4 күн бұрын
I would just like to say a big thank you to everyone who has watched this video. In the last few days, it has been incredibly popular on my channel and your support is immense. For some context, this interview was for a documentary I did, so the questions were generally specific to the premise of the documentary - however, I would have asked more if I had more time with Mr. Coid as we were on a tight schedule. I am looking to do a video about my letters to Ian Brady and if that is something you guys are interested in seeing please give this comment a like and tell me what you’d like to know in that video and I’ll try my best to accommodate as much as I can! Thank you once again!
@outlawJosieFox
@outlawJosieFox 4 күн бұрын
Let's see what you got. This interview was fascinating. Thank you for sharing.
@thekitowl
@thekitowl 4 күн бұрын
KZfaq suggested another moors murder program which led me to this video. Very interesting stuff.
@cvbaxter
@cvbaxter 4 күн бұрын
5t5@@tomdgardner96 Hi Tom, do you think that the harrowing tape of little Lesley Ann Downey has been heard by the general public like some people have stated amongst your comments?
@franke2532
@franke2532 3 күн бұрын
I dont get why brady could not bring himself to open the letters by winnie johnson because his body was unfound, can you expand on that considering brady was tootally unempathetic?
@Zoe-dr5ps
@Zoe-dr5ps Күн бұрын
I'd be extremely interested in that.
@phillipecook3227
@phillipecook3227 6 күн бұрын
Thank you for not adding music to this.
@BennyTheBusker
@BennyTheBusker 3 күн бұрын
@phillipecook3227: I totally agree! As a musician, especially, I cannot watch many KZfaq videos because the added music is too distracting and often creates inappropriate or irrelevant emotions. Very often, so-called "background music" actually drowns out the dialogue. On such a serious, sensitive and thought-provoking subject as this, I was extremely grateful that no music was included. This is one of the best interviews I have ever heard.
@tomdgardner96
@tomdgardner96 3 күн бұрын
@BennyTheBusker much appreciated! Thank you!
@thomasgray5406
@thomasgray5406 3 күн бұрын
​@BennyTheBusker I utterly agree. The irritating trend of overbearing mood music in non fiction TV type media, including news bulletins, irks me so much; as though serious, non fiction matters should be blurred with drama productions.
@davepowell7168
@davepowell7168 2 күн бұрын
🤣 l can't think of anything more surreal bearing in mind the subject
@andreaclarke4955
@andreaclarke4955 Күн бұрын
Professor Jeremy Coid brought by Thomas Gardner, thank you both for this educated insight, confirmation of assessment of dangerous personalities that appear in ordinary society psychopathic characteristics within our communities, comments here are most appreciated for those of us coming to terms with trauma as a result of being preyed upon by the above sadistic humans, I pray God's blessings for you and your families ❤❤
@kathyaggiss9006
@kathyaggiss9006 7 күн бұрын
How refreshing listening to a highly intelligent man speaking without any sensationalism even though it’s such a macabre subject.
@terryyakamoto3488
@terryyakamoto3488 6 күн бұрын
He's clearly very professional and focused on his role, but occasionally through the interview, you can see expressions on his face that belie the personal disgust he had for Brady.
@MissSpiritual.Soldier
@MissSpiritual.Soldier 5 күн бұрын
How can he say he’s had a client who’s committed worse murders than Brady, they maybe horrific in a different way, but not worse! These murders are up the top in the worse ever crimes, they bring chills to my spine and an erie darkness when I even hear bradys or Myra’s name or the “moors murders” ☠️
@MissSpiritual.Soldier
@MissSpiritual.Soldier 5 күн бұрын
Brady playing his mind games and giving snippets of “controlled” information reminds me of when an exorcist is communicating with a demon….. he was a demon in human form…. ☠️
@Hell...IsOtherPeople44
@Hell...IsOtherPeople44 4 күн бұрын
​@@MissSpiritual.Soldierthis is why I don't believe he was ever psychotic, psychopathic and sadistic yes, but not psychotic. He was always in control, he knew what he was doing.
@gowdsake7103
@gowdsake7103 4 күн бұрын
Really ? hmm
@rmorton8281
@rmorton8281 3 күн бұрын
Sitting watching this on night-shift (mental health nurse), very interesting. I spent some time as a student working in a medium secure forensic ward and also worked briefly in a prison. The human condition is endlessly fascinating.
@susanhemion2981
@susanhemion2981 Күн бұрын
I was a psychiatrist hospitalist four 4 years. I had only one incident where I met a young man who literally made my skin crawl. I felt pure evil radiating from him. I have been in psychiatric nursing for over 40 years and have a pretty good intuition about people. He was able to manipulate his way out of the hospital. Even though he told me he had fantasies about murdering and torturing people.
@robertcudlipp3426
@robertcudlipp3426 9 сағат бұрын
@@susanhemion2981 Did this individual have any criminal convictions or charges he may have successfully defended at trial.
@opinionday0079
@opinionday0079 3 күн бұрын
So nice to see a very fascinating interview without all the sensationalism and music that we now have on almost every video about this type of subject
@12roostboost34
@12roostboost34 4 күн бұрын
I worked prison landings for many years. There were occasionally some prisoners that stood out from the rest as literally making your skin crawl. Call it officer intuition, I don’t know, but recently I met a man in public that was trying to make a good impression on me but gave me that very same feeling. There are just some humans that exude a sinister presence.
@peterperigoe9231
@peterperigoe9231 4 күн бұрын
I agree with you, however your exposure to such persons is way more marked then mine, you were dealing with convicted criminals, I worked as a barman for many years (selling an intoxicant) You developed skills whereas when a stranger walked in, if you instinctively had doubts or a bad feeling about such a person quite often you were right.
@jillspence7227
@jillspence7227 3 күн бұрын
Psycopaths are common, and in fact very few of them ever commit horrible crimes or even any crimes. It is a mental state, with degrees like most mental states.
@CT-pv9gu
@CT-pv9gu Күн бұрын
@@12roostboost34 there’s hundreds of people that aren’t in prison that have that effect on us. Psychopaths are everywhere, not all of them are criminals
@williamlane7160
@williamlane7160 16 сағат бұрын
It's known as bad vibes, animals can also sense bad vibes from people.
@StillAliveAndKicking_
@StillAliveAndKicking_ Сағат бұрын
I wanted a wood burner fitting, and a local fitter came around. He made my skin crawl, there was a coldness and arrogance that was unpleasant. Generally I also get bad vibes from public school types, they are often aloof and arrogant, and show no emotion. Interestingly there was an ice hockey goalie who I disliked. Turns out he was a convicted pea-doh-file using a false name. Another ice hockey player and goalie was very unpleasant to me, really nasty. We discovered he was also a convicted pea-doh-file who had served 4 1/2 years. I don’t ignore gut feeling, it’s your subconscious telling you something is not right.
@gwenniemay2304
@gwenniemay2304 2 күн бұрын
I am not a watcher of true crime and have little interest in serial killers but the professors face looked so kind I was drawn in. What a wonderful honest account. No nonsense, no conjecture just an honest account. Great interview. Feeling a bit yuk now though after listening. That’s me and serial killers for another 40 or so years. Done. 😕
@ladystardust2008
@ladystardust2008 12 сағат бұрын
Incredible professionalism. What an unusual man Professor Coid is. Such intellect is rare and we should cherish this as an antidote to the feral witch hunting hysteria of the tabloids and the people who read them. Thanks for this.
@DarcyDigs
@DarcyDigs 3 күн бұрын
One of the most fascinating and insightful assessments of Brady I have ever encountered in book or film over the many years I have studied him. Thank you!
@SuperBartles
@SuperBartles Күн бұрын
Do you mind me asking. Why have you studied him? I once mentioned Brady and Hindley to my (somewhat crazy, tbh) father. His reply "it doesn't bear thinking about". Anyway this is the first & perhaps the last time I'll spend any time studying those events. I was interested as much in the psychiatrist as anything else - because I generally don't have huge respect for psychiatry as a science. I wanted to see what he said
@DarcyDigs
@DarcyDigs Күн бұрын
@@SuperBartles Not at all; that's a perfectly legitimate question and I also respect your father's opinion on the matter. I studied Brady because I have a lifelong interest in crime and deviant psychology and went on to read law and specialise in criminal law. While I practice other areas of the law today I remain ever interested in extreme behaviour and what makes some people intercept societal norms and cross certain barriers. Brady is a chilling reminder of the complexities of the human mind and the depths of depravity it can reach. I find that infinitely fascinating as a student of the human condition.
@stephenholmes1036
@stephenholmes1036 7 ай бұрын
A proper interview with a real expert. No pretense. Just facts . Thank you
@gowdsake7103
@gowdsake7103 4 күн бұрын
What facts ?
@stephenholmes1036
@stephenholmes1036 4 күн бұрын
The facts as he states above Brady.
@MB-fr3ow
@MB-fr3ow Жыл бұрын
Great interview. I could have watched this man speak all day, articulate and intelligent as he is.
@gowdsake7103
@gowdsake7103 4 күн бұрын
In what way
@robertcudlipp3426
@robertcudlipp3426 9 сағат бұрын
@@MB-fr3ow Exceptionally incisive interview. A very impressive clinical operator in an area that, naturally, does not attract large numbers of talented individuals, not difficult to understand why.
@Zoe-dr5ps
@Zoe-dr5ps Жыл бұрын
What an interesting interview with such an intelligent man. Excellent questions from the interviewer too. Honestly I could have watched hours of this.
@tomdgardner96
@tomdgardner96 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words, Zoe. It was an absolute pleasure interviewing Jeremy in London and we had a great discussion both on and off camera too!
@Naturalselector405
@Naturalselector405 11 ай бұрын
😮😅 3:13 3:14 3:14 3:14 3:14
@apollonia6656
@apollonia6656 10 ай бұрын
@NatureSelector405, You mean you need H..e..l..p ! 😂
@Diamondsparkle788
@Diamondsparkle788 9 ай бұрын
Male behaviour is different to women. Brady dominated Myra.
@stephenholmes1036
@stephenholmes1036 7 ай бұрын
My daughter is a mental health nurse and said this is professionally very interesting to listen too.
@merson812
@merson812 7 күн бұрын
I could listen to professor Coid all day.
@BuddhaofBlackpool
@BuddhaofBlackpool 4 күн бұрын
Why
@StuartHanson-fo7iw
@StuartHanson-fo7iw 15 күн бұрын
I’m so glad he said it how it is, sadism, a talented dignified professional,well done🇬🇧
@praxeologue
@praxeologue Күн бұрын
I understand the urge to pathologise evil but I am reminded of Charles Baudelaire's line ' the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was to convince us he doesnt exist'
@christineoleary3862
@christineoleary3862 4 күн бұрын
What an interesting man. Great interview.
@CT-pv9gu
@CT-pv9gu 3 күн бұрын
I’ve had gut feelings around certain people before and it isn’t nice. You get an aura around some people and the only thing you can do is get away from them as quickly as you can.
@Veronica705
@Veronica705 16 сағат бұрын
Always trust your gut, never doubt it. It's always right.
@thevoodoobook
@thevoodoobook 2 күн бұрын
This actually is a really good English-exercise. Prof. Coid is so well spoken.
@suzp2265
@suzp2265 5 күн бұрын
Very interesting that he believes Brady to have been 'born bad' and that he felt a great dislike for him, that's very honest. I'm so glad neither of them were released, Life without parole should be the sentence in many more cases.
@donnae9566
@donnae9566 4 күн бұрын
I believe people can be born bad. In fact I think nature over nurture is a much stronger factor on the overall personality of a person.
@outlawJosieFox
@outlawJosieFox 4 күн бұрын
​@donnae9566 interesting. The older I get the more I see of my mother in me, in spite of not having seen too much of the woman.
@maymalone1505
@maymalone1505 4 күн бұрын
​@donnae9566 that is true, but if a person or the professionals like this man,can get these childern at young age and give them a very special training and keep an eye on them all their life,we are after ruled by thes type of people, they should never be in position of power over others, we are all being brought up in a very wrong system, the question is why.
@secretwatcher9922
@secretwatcher9922 3 күн бұрын
​​@@maymalone1505Completely agree with you May & like you I definitely think our civilizations are being directed towards this type of behaviour. The more time goes on the more uncaring & sadistic human kind is becoming & it's being openly excepted as well as being quietly encouraged in the background. There is definitely a reason behind this from higher up & what is being allowed & encouraged.
@dunker982
@dunker982 3 күн бұрын
@@outlawJosieFox with respect. How can you know you were like her then ?
@nedthestaffieegan3452
@nedthestaffieegan3452 19 сағат бұрын
Really fascinating and compelling interview. It's a rare glimpse into the inner world and personal impressions, behind ones clinical judgement and professional expertise. It seems like Ian Brady is one of the most challenging patients any psychiatrist is likely to encounter, not just in terms of the gravity of his crimes, but the power dynamics that are testing the psyche to attempt to control and dominate. It takes a seriously psychologically strong individual with razor sharp instincts, knows their weak spots and vulnerabilities inside out, to be in control throughout.
@pcka12
@pcka12 3 күн бұрын
This reminds me of my mum's accounts of being the army driver assigned to the British psychiatrist who attended Rudolf Hess when he was first imprisoned after capture, on the way home he used to tell my mum about the insights which he had gained about Hitler's deputy.
@esseel7896
@esseel7896 Күн бұрын
Hess wasnt a psychopath. he was a pawn in politics. my friends aunt was one of those assigned to him for many years while incarcerated, i knew her well and twisted her ear for years for stories.
@karenreynolds7153
@karenreynolds7153 56 минут бұрын
As a doctor, I maintain my opinion of psychiatry as Voodoo medicine. Coid is clearly an educated person, but, it just feels like stating the obvious. Albeit with jargon and scanty gravitas.
@richardtierney7724
@richardtierney7724 4 күн бұрын
In the 80's I met and became firm friends with an ex GMP CID Sargant who worked on the Moors Murders case. I sat with him as he told me all about his time on that case. He said he "befriended" Brady and they talked at length. He said he was aware that Brady loved to be in control and would talk about himself all the time. Mr friend said he would sit there for hours listening to him, without interruption, Brady loved that and had a lot of trust in him. They went back to the moors to "look for" the graves of his victims. He was smiling and said the Police would never find them ( the children ) It was the momentos he and Hindley they kept ( photographs ) that led them to several. By analysing the backgrounds in the photographs ( Hindley was photographed sat ontop of a slight mound of earth) when they found that site, they dug and found one of the children. He said he found Hindley to be pure evil, far worse than Brady. Spend many an hour totally enthralled with the stories from my ex CID friend. I was 15 at the time of the murders and I can remember my Mother telling me about the tape recording of the murder of the little girl. She said she cried all that day. I dont think tapes like that would ever be made public these days.
@BruceLee-fd7uw
@BruceLee-fd7uw 3 күн бұрын
You told us nothing more than what is out there to read about anyway Like what was the point of this comment
@jillspence7227
@jillspence7227 3 күн бұрын
I am not happy with his assertion that Hindley was 'far worse', because he is not a psychiatrist, and bias towards a woman who did this BECAUSE she is a woman and should not be capable of such things would be very common from most people. What they both did was appalling, disgusting etc. etc. but we do not need to hear the biased account of a Policeman or anyone else who is not a psychiatrist .
@pobstrel
@pobstrel 3 күн бұрын
​@@jillspence7227The psychiatrist who worked with both Hindley and Brady said that Brady was a certified psychopath and had other mental disorders, but that Hindley was completely sane. Even one of the relatives of one of their victims said that Hindley was worse. Because she chose to do it. Also Hindley held back info to try and get a shorter sentence.
@dianemurray4826
@dianemurray4826 3 күн бұрын
When I was a Met Police Officer back in the 70s i did a prison escort to Holloway Prison and got to know a young girl who was in and out of Holloway 24/7. Myra Hindly was in there at the time but we had no up to date photos of her in the public domain only the hard faced dyed blonde. The young girl told me Myra ran the Prison. She didnt look the same anymore. She was dark haired and was quiet and charming and had become a Christian again but that it was all an act to try and get out. and that she was in fact still evil and cruel and had a lot of the prison officers under her spell. Of course all this came out to be true later on including the description of her. .
@dianemurray4826
@dianemurray4826 3 күн бұрын
​@@BruceLee-fd7uwit was a comment get it? Not a new revelation. Buy a book. 😂
@em6577
@em6577 9 күн бұрын
I heard a clip of lesley pleading for her mum many years ago on a documentary on tv. It still haunts me
@crose7412
@crose7412 8 күн бұрын
@em6577 As far as I know, the tape has never been played publicly since the trial so you perhaps heard a recreation.
@cvbaxter
@cvbaxter 7 күн бұрын
I don't think it's ever been heard by the public. A transcription of the tape has been shown online, however.
@maryrose4712
@maryrose4712 6 күн бұрын
@@crose7412 I heard the same tape and I'm sure the tape was genuine.
@tal4546
@tal4546 5 күн бұрын
I did too
@MillieonaVespa
@MillieonaVespa 5 күн бұрын
I heard it too many years ago ..
@whywhywhy9659
@whywhywhy9659 2 күн бұрын
I enjoyed him slapping down the idea of Brady having PTSD
@kdsgirly5573
@kdsgirly5573 6 күн бұрын
Makes you want to know more about the Professor. So interesting.
@geoffjoffy
@geoffjoffy 4 күн бұрын
Fascinating interview. Thanks for posting.
@neilaspin008
@neilaspin008 5 күн бұрын
I studied Applied Psychology at LJMU and we had a guest lecture by one of Brady's Doctors from Ashworth Hospital (can't rember the chaps name - would have been about 1992 / 1993) and we weren't allowed to record the lecture on dictaphones or anything like that. The guy said that Brady was one of the mostly mentally unwell people that he had ever treated.
@gowdsake7103
@gowdsake7103 4 күн бұрын
Ummm treated ? or making a fortune from waffle ?
@BruceLee-fd7uw
@BruceLee-fd7uw 3 күн бұрын
So many people in the comments saying they or a family member met him yet, none of you say exactly what???
@outoforbit00
@outoforbit00 3 күн бұрын
Yes I suppose, but evil and insanity were used interchangeably back then. Insane people sooner or later spill the beans. Brady was evil, and accumulating evil doings, eventually makes the person insane anyway, but the person who started as evil when they become insane won't spill the beans. So the interchange of the terms is more accurate.
@Niala8419
@Niala8419 2 күн бұрын
​@@BruceLee-fd7uwyou claim to be Bruce Lee 😂
@DK-cy5mt
@DK-cy5mt 2 күн бұрын
​@@gowdsake7103Ćuti, nemaš pojma
@honestmcgyver
@honestmcgyver 2 күн бұрын
Interesting the Prof answered fairly succinctly and good job by interviewer to keep questions coming
@barneybiggles
@barneybiggles 2 күн бұрын
What he said about Brady was spot on.
@DuncanStewart-jz3bp
@DuncanStewart-jz3bp Жыл бұрын
Brilliant interview from a former colleague. Thanks for uploading the full version.
@stephenholmes1036
@stephenholmes1036 7 ай бұрын
Well said my daughter a mental health nurse thought this a professionally very interesting and useful to mental health profession.
@MoonSpinners
@MoonSpinners 3 күн бұрын
I love how he’s got a book on antisocial behaviour near a “cooking for friends” book 😂
@Blissblizzard
@Blissblizzard Күн бұрын
Is this the old Simpsons joke?
@streaming5332
@streaming5332 16 сағат бұрын
Well spotted!
@andy_mac
@andy_mac 3 күн бұрын
Great interview btw. Thank you for posting.
@wilsonflood4393
@wilsonflood4393 Күн бұрын
Many years ago in a bookshop I found a book about the moors murderers that contained transcripts of the tapes. I felt total revulsion and had to put the book back after reading only a few lines. Very upsetting.
@rachaelghostcat8584
@rachaelghostcat8584 Жыл бұрын
What insight into a murderer, just shows you that Brady was a complete monster and so was Hindley. I just hope one day they find Keith so that finally he can be laid to rest with his mother. RIP Keith! x
@rogreen2181
@rogreen2181 Жыл бұрын
Oh my god I don’t even know where to begin with you I love Ian
@michaelmcmillan6506
@michaelmcmillan6506 Жыл бұрын
@@rogreen2181 seriously, stop. do not mention god with your words, or love, you are beneath us, and i will waste no more words on you. I hope they find Keith too Rachael, god be with him, and us all.
@kdlofty
@kdlofty Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmcmillan6506 What kind of "God" would allow that to happen to those poor defenceless children?
@michaelmcmillan9704
@michaelmcmillan9704 Жыл бұрын
It was not god that did this , Evil is the absence of God , not the definition of God , those poor children were made by God and loved by him, do not mistake or be fooled to think the actions of the wicked ever define him or them, the good pray for the hurt and the injured and the lost , pray for them with God for the shepherd always guards even those predated , the holy spirit was there to comfort the families and friends even if we cannot understand why free will allowed such terror, they never were alone and if we pray together we can build a better world, that is what we must stand by
@kdlofty
@kdlofty Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmcmillan9704 Made by God, loved by him, but this God is all powerful, all knowing, these children probably prayed to this God, he allowed then to have their lives destroyed and did nothing to stop it. This leads to two possibilities, either your God is a sick twisted psychopathic megalomaniac, or he doesn't exist.
@grahamwatts8836
@grahamwatts8836 Жыл бұрын
Excellent clear and critical analysis of very dangerously sick people, brilliant professional man.
@elyjane8316
@elyjane8316 5 күн бұрын
What a fascinating interview.
@StuartHanson-fo7iw
@StuartHanson-fo7iw 15 күн бұрын
Excellent interview 🇬🇧👍
@PlanetWomble
@PlanetWomble 10 күн бұрын
I found it Interesting the negative feeling he sensed.
@geofsmith393
@geofsmith393 5 күн бұрын
My father gave me the book Beyond Belief by Emlyn Williams when I was 13 (1973) It changed my life… I don’t regret reading it and have re-read it more than once.
@christineduffy3113
@christineduffy3113 4 күн бұрын
I also read that book years ago The people who wanted them released should read that book and they I think would have changed their minds
@harrykeane9027
@harrykeane9027 Күн бұрын
Lord Longford was a useful idiot.
@peaeater1
@peaeater1 19 күн бұрын
I love how his books are all about psycho stuff, and then there's a Raymond Blanc 'Cooking for Friends' book snuck in there.
@Glidingjackdaw
@Glidingjackdaw 7 күн бұрын
It brought a wry smile to my face,as I imagined it being a facsimile of book shelves in Dr. Lecters study.
@peaeater1
@peaeater1 7 күн бұрын
@@Glidingjackdaw ...or Jeffrey Dahmer's. Hang on. His would simply be titled: Cooking Friends.
@Glidingjackdaw
@Glidingjackdaw 7 күн бұрын
@@peaeater1 ...😂
@totallybored5526
@totallybored5526 6 күн бұрын
It could have been worse, he could have had an interior design book next to an Ed Gein book🤫
@peaeater1
@peaeater1 6 күн бұрын
@@totallybored5526 Practical Photography and Fred West. Great British Roads and Sutcliffe. The Great Escape and Theo Bundy...
@hawkeize
@hawkeize 11 ай бұрын
What an intelligent and eloquent interview, fascinating 🧐
@CT-pv9gu
@CT-pv9gu 4 күн бұрын
Really scary stuff. It’s hard to imagine people like Brady existed. Having zero empathy is not a good way to live.
@rocknrolldoll5219
@rocknrolldoll5219 Жыл бұрын
Loved this interview: interesting, captivating, honest and straight to the point. I agree, I could have watched for longer. Fantastic-great job.
@shellyseymore6249
@shellyseymore6249 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant! The questions you asked were so good, I can't think of one that I wouldn't have wanted to ask myself. Thanks for sharing this 👌🏼
@amandajohnson-williams7718
@amandajohnson-williams7718 3 күн бұрын
Very interesting listening ... thank you both!! 👏👏👏 Respect to this Professor 💜
@Fred-rj3er
@Fred-rj3er 6 күн бұрын
At the time, the news played the tape of that poor little girl begging for her life. I only heard it played once. It is NEVER MENTIONED, and I don't think it was played again. I was only a child myself but I remember it so vividly and am certain I didn't imagine it. But it probably doesn't exist anymore, or any records of it Brady most certainly did torture his victims, mentally and physically. Only those alive at the time know what was reported.
@lesleywilkie2848
@lesleywilkie2848 4 күн бұрын
I share almost the same name and age of that poor little girl. It greatly affected me then and still does today.
@thekitowl
@thekitowl 4 күн бұрын
I only ever heard the tape once & that was years ago, a transcript of the tape exists.
@fainitesbarley2245
@fainitesbarley2245 4 күн бұрын
It most certainly does exist. It was played in court. The judge put a block on it ever being played publicly again although I think clips were in documentaries.
@glenmorgan4597
@glenmorgan4597 4 күн бұрын
​@@lesleywilkie2848I'd not listen to it, be too upsetting 😢
@MichaelRoss
@MichaelRoss 4 күн бұрын
Great interview. This just popped up in my feed. I hope the spike in views brings you many more subscribers, which you deserve.
@ayjay749
@ayjay749 Ай бұрын
Fascinating - thank you for uploading this! I wish the full documentary were available to watch somewhere...?! I also bet Professor Coid could author a really interesting book of his experiences!
@jeansmith3367
@jeansmith3367 5 күн бұрын
Really interesting. I was very distracted by all of the books on the shelf - I'd love to read some of them!
@JadeRavenwolf
@JadeRavenwolf 5 күн бұрын
i was looking too . one of which my son wrote !! proud mum me
@timbranton7950
@timbranton7950 4 күн бұрын
I recommend Raymond Blanc's Cooking for Friends. Some excellent recipes
@nigeh5326
@nigeh5326 5 күн бұрын
Fascinating interview with a v professional psychiatrist, thank you. Shame it wasn’t longer and more in depth, but well done for getting the interview. Just subscribed 👍
@inkedbhudda85
@inkedbhudda85 9 ай бұрын
Loved the approach you took to this interview 👍 👏 👌
@McLoed22
@McLoed22 2 күн бұрын
This is a really good, very interesting interview. I like how there is a lot more speaking from the person with the first hand experience of the matter.
@lss74
@lss74 3 күн бұрын
Thanks for posting this 🙏💚
@BigDuke6ixx
@BigDuke6ixx 3 күн бұрын
I met one of the nurses who used to restrain him for his forced feeding. They said it was pretty brutal and Brady hated it. Hopefully there really is a Hell.
@wardenwilson6725
@wardenwilson6725 3 күн бұрын
Brady hated the forced feedings? GOOD!
@BigDuke6ixx
@BigDuke6ixx 3 күн бұрын
@@wardenwilson6725 yeah agreed. All the information he took to his grave should have been interrogated out of him using pain techniques. He should have experienced fear and agony.
@wardenwilson6725
@wardenwilson6725 3 күн бұрын
@@BigDuke6ixx Yeah, i'm not big on deliberate torture. But then again, exceptions can be made. And Ian Brady might just be one of those "exceptions". (I also wouldn't mind spending a few minutes alone, with Myra)
@harrykeane9027
@harrykeane9027 Күн бұрын
Actually that is really really good to know. Fanks. 👍
@Immanuel-sj5sc
@Immanuel-sj5sc 2 сағат бұрын
There is a hell .Jesus said loads of times.
@jonelson1983
@jonelson1983 2 күн бұрын
Fascinating man. Great vid.
@RM-ti8nf
@RM-ti8nf Күн бұрын
Fascinating, thanks
@Bobmudu35UK
@Bobmudu35UK 5 күн бұрын
Great interview! What a shame Brady and Hindley missed out the death penalty.
@lesleywilkie2848
@lesleywilkie2848 4 күн бұрын
I like to think that the information gained about Brady and how his mind or brain worked will help identify any future killers before they start. One can only hope. He was continually observed, questioned, tested, and examined. Dead men don't talk.
@denis888red
@denis888red 4 күн бұрын
Not really. He had an utterly miserable and tortured life.
@thekitowl
@thekitowl 4 күн бұрын
Thought they both tried to help find the graves, couldn’t have done that had they hung.
@pamelacorbett8774
@pamelacorbett8774 4 күн бұрын
He should have been put in solitary to enjoy his own company for the rest of his life.
@Bobmudu35UK
@Bobmudu35UK 3 күн бұрын
@@denis888red He was able to live,think about his crimes (and got a kick out of it) and because of segregation spend time with other sex offenders. His victims and their families live a miserable and tortured life.
@gloriathompson4010
@gloriathompson4010 10 ай бұрын
Beautiful interview!
@MrChubba10
@MrChubba10 5 күн бұрын
I'd like to have the Professor discuss more about the negative feeling Brady brought him, where the reaction comes from . Was it an ego reaction as in I'm a professional who has studied and am well respected in my field which is why I'm interviewing Brady who is acting as if in control of the situation and believes he knows more than me or was it a physical reaction as in some sort of a basic human instinct reaction to Brady being dangerous to his emotional well being as well as a physical threat. It must take a heavy amount of training and experience to be able to distance oneself from feelings as a human being in a situation like this .. to not make assumptions based on whatever knowledge you have of someone or even for what they are presenting like in front of you. It's absolutely fascinating.
@maymalone1505
@maymalone1505 4 күн бұрын
There are some people who have that weird iratating vibration, they are empty emotional vampires, or little napoleon's 🤔 the reverse is also to be found in genuine empathetic people, u have to be sure that they are that, and nit very charming cunning phycopaths.
@jillspence7227
@jillspence7227 3 күн бұрын
He was interviewed about Brady, not about himself, and I feel the fact he mentioned how negative he felt is explanation in itself. These days too many people interviewed on a subject tend to make it all about themselves.
@Blissblizzard
@Blissblizzard Күн бұрын
I have had that same visceral fear just watching someone on YT - not even being in their presence, so zero personal threat, happened twice now. Its pure force of will, a laser like focus on their goal, (not their admitted goal either, something hidden, dreadful), plus a stench of "uncanny valley" behind the forcefulness glibness and charm. And ... the terrible neediness and grovelling in the comments in their comment section, ought to weird anyone out, and yet it becomes a pile on. And yet, also, on the surface they're just goofy weirdos, more uncanny valley vibes...
@MrChubba10
@MrChubba10 7 сағат бұрын
@@jillspence7227 I was just interested that the Professor said 'could have been' rather than there was. That statement in itself shows I feel that the clinical analysis he gives on Brady could be flawed as the Professor himself is a person with flaws. Given that there are 3 individuals 'in the interview': the interviewer, the interviewee and the subject i.e. Brady. That's what I find fascinating and I would have liked for this to be included in the interview a little more because it's relevant to the full understanding of Brady, if that is indeed possible. Also it drives made when the interviewer asks a rhetorical question. The Professor didn't fall into that trap I noticed.
@MrChubba10
@MrChubba10 6 сағат бұрын
@@Blissblizzard I watched a programme once (can't remember the name of it) and in it they talked about gut reaction and how we still walk into a situation even though our 'gut' is telling us something is up. It happens before thought. I find that fascinating too. What makes us walk into the situation .. feeling silly if do and nothing happens that we thought it would? Who knows .. I only know that now I listen to my 'gut' a lot more about people .. oh and in the past my dogs .. a very placid and easy going labrador who once showed her teeth etc when someone came to the door to deliver something .. also happened to my spaniel who was tied up alongside me at a car boot sale. He went nuts at one particular person who came by. They both never did it before or after again. What do they know we dont?
@scarletmontana7
@scarletmontana7 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant interview
@user-fb3pu3qx3t
@user-fb3pu3qx3t Жыл бұрын
Brilliant interview.
@westminsterwatcher5152
@westminsterwatcher5152 Жыл бұрын
Excellent interview!
@apollonia6656
@apollonia6656 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful with no stuttering,no er,hem and "You knows"! Excellent. Why don't they have this psychiatrist on Documentaries instead of Wilson for examp!e.
@-TimZambra
@-TimZambra Күн бұрын
Thank you, Professor Coid. You revealed a lot.
@lks6248
@lks6248 6 ай бұрын
Very interesting interview. Could have listened to a lot more!
@ammedredd
@ammedredd 5 күн бұрын
I had partially forgotten that Brady was in fact dead. He and Hindley were convicted the year I was born (1966) and their story was always in the extreme background of my life as two particularly nasty murderers who were locked up somewhere, I'd heard he was dead,a nano seconds worth of response and I thought of it no more, my mind re settling as 'two particularly nasty murderers who were locked up somewhere'.
@Stu-SB
@Stu-SB 4 күн бұрын
63 here, same as me, they were always in the back of my head somewhere.
@ElizaBlue-o1i
@ElizaBlue-o1i 6 күн бұрын
Very interesting interview, not just in content but in seeing someone dealing with very difficult work in a completely professional and dispassionate manner. A couple of his more personal responses to / observations of the interaction with Brady confirmed things I've learned in my own work about the nature of individuals who commit these kinds of murders. Interesting to hear that coming from a forensic psychiatrist.
@JJONNYREPP
@JJONNYREPP 5 күн бұрын
Interview with Ian Brady’s former Psychiatrist Professor Jeremy Coid | Uncut 0904am 23.7.24 control was the word i was waiting for him to utter. seems "control" is what all these folk seek - no matter who the subject matter is that's up for discussion... your initial description of the professorial chap could probably be applied to the murderer in question... which is ironic, is it not? as for raymond blanc's cooking for friends. i had to seek that out... maybe it's a cinematic in-joke? this guy's only engaging with this tiresome interview to garner replies like yours (and mine)... i'm about to switch off due to murder and mayhem not being my thing...
@tomdgardner96
@tomdgardner96 5 күн бұрын
@JJONNYREPP I can assure you there’s no in-joke. Everything in the background is Mr. Coids own property. We interviewed Mr. Coid as part of a documentary. I find it confusing that you watched an interview about a murderers psychiatrist when murder isn’t your thing.
@nigeh5326
@nigeh5326 5 күн бұрын
@@JJONNYREPPlike many who have studied or simply enjoy reading a wide variety of topics he simply had a range of books on his bookshelf. I studied politics and history at university, but as well as a range of books on political ideologies and twentieth century history I also have books about cars, motorcycles, aircraft, football, celebrity autobiographies and animals on my bookshelves. I don’t watch crime and murder videos very much myself but this caught my eye as Brady and Hindley, like it or not, due to media interest for decades have been fascinating many of us. If Brady had committed his evil crimes alone I doubt we would have been so interested in him. But because of his partnership with Hindley they stood out. Then and now a couple carrying out such crimes was, and is, unusual. Hence why people take an interest and try to understand why they did it. As my mom used to say about some people and their actions whether good, bad or eccentric it takes all sorts.
@janicehogg1841
@janicehogg1841 5 күн бұрын
Was very interesting and having a severely autistic, learning disabled non verbal adult son it hit home when he described the egocentric personality. I've always felt if I collapsed in front of my son he'd step over me to get to the fridge. Has left me feeling very sad
@northernlights8126
@northernlights8126 5 күн бұрын
@@janicehogg1841, that’s sad to hear.Hope things will get better.
@pgs1796
@pgs1796 4 сағат бұрын
Fascinating insightful interview.
@victoria180
@victoria180 9 ай бұрын
Great interview
@IainFrame
@IainFrame 2 күн бұрын
This is really interesting insight into something (someone) that is so inexplicable. Great work.
@ReelFilm2016
@ReelFilm2016 4 күн бұрын
Great interview. Great video. I have subscribed.
@th8257
@th8257 Ай бұрын
It's very interesting that Scotland, a country with a tiny population, produced so many serial killers in the 20th century. Apart from Brady there was Denis Nilsen, Peter Tobin, Robert Black, Angus Sinclair, Peter Manuel, Bible John and probably now Andrew Hunter. I suspect that in a lot of those cases, the brutal poverty and violence that was all too common back then in places like Glasgow were a major factor in pulling the trigger on what was probably already a loaded gun, genetically.
@kailashpatel1706
@kailashpatel1706 9 күн бұрын
Interesting comment..A piece of research showed that the Netherlands tended to produce a lot of these kind of people post 1945?..Why?..The impact of the German occupation and the severe food shortages during it impacted alot of Dutch women's pregnancies depriving them of regular nutrition and thus affected the cerebral and emotional development of their babies..
@nicknewman7848
@nicknewman7848 7 күн бұрын
I remember reading somewhere that of the white, genetically 'western' or northern european descent serial killers that have been caught there is a massively disproportionate amount that have blue eyes. I don't know if that includes grey eyes too (which is the rarest colour). Brown is overwhelmingly the most common colour even in caucasian populations according to what I read so for 90% of them (or whatever the figure was) to have the same genetic mutation always seemed interesting to me. Do all the Scot's listed above share that similarity I wonder?
@th8257
@th8257 6 күн бұрын
@@nicknewman7848 just looking through photos of the killers, it seems they all had brown eyes apart from Robert Black. Of course, we don't actually know who Bible John was, so can't verify his eye colour.
@TopCatsBack
@TopCatsBack 6 күн бұрын
​@@th8257probably Peter Tobin
@michael-gs6kh
@michael-gs6kh 5 күн бұрын
I reckon it's the Haggis that's responsible
@pies9393
@pies9393 Жыл бұрын
Really excellent interview, thanks so much for posting. Im curious as to why he wouldn't comment on the Winnie Johnson letters. I think what you're asking there is regarding something Ive wondered about regarding the case. When Brady was asked by Colin Wilson if he had any regret for the killings, he said "my regret is axiomatic and painfully, painfully deep". This is a very strange statement coming from a psychopath. It makes one think about the nature of psychopathy and if even psychopaths can experience regret concerning crimes of this magnitude of horror. This quote by the way can be found in Colin Wilson's introduction to Brady's book 'The Gates of Janus'.
@am5790
@am5790 Жыл бұрын
maybe his regret may not be the regret of a "normal" person....
@therespectedlex9794
@therespectedlex9794 Жыл бұрын
@@am5790 Or a wrong, abnormal thing to regret.
@pies9393
@pies9393 Жыл бұрын
@@am5790 Yes very true
@KatMusic2009
@KatMusic2009 11 ай бұрын
Did you mean axiomatic*? Possibly his regret was that he got caught, or his trying to involve David Smith?
@pies9393
@pies9393 9 ай бұрын
​@@KatMusic2009 Yes, spelling error, thank you.
@fraser_mr2009
@fraser_mr2009 5 ай бұрын
He was born and grew up in Glasgow. Interesting... I always thought he was from England. Myra Hindley was from England. Myra Hindley was just as evil imo.
@suemcgregor9248
@suemcgregor9248 27 күн бұрын
Absolutely, her prison record proves this. She was described as a model prisoner, this is typical. She was continually controlling her environment in jail
@fraser_mr2009
@fraser_mr2009 27 күн бұрын
@@suemcgregor9248 She was fully complicit in the murder of those children.
@rnw2739
@rnw2739 3 күн бұрын
No, Brady was Scottish. One of many Scottish people that flee to England first chance they get, yet harp on about how wonderful Scotland is....😂😂😂 yeah alright 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
@rosemarylusty8045
@rosemarylusty8045 4 күн бұрын
It would be interesting to know if any neurophysiology is ever able to be analysed and any anomalies chemical imbalance/differences/cell loss ascertained.
@HooDie-Trench-GoTh2022
@HooDie-Trench-GoTh2022 5 күн бұрын
Interesting point the psychiatrist makes about Brady having an almost autistic disorder about controlling and not being hardwired properly. These traits are the same with individuals like Robert napper too.
@Hell...IsOtherPeople44
@Hell...IsOtherPeople44 4 күн бұрын
How much do you know about Autism? I'm autistic and beyond p****d off with the continuous comparison with psychopathy! It's f*****g insulting. As a person on the spectrum, I and every other I know suffer miserably with an inability to intuit nonverbal modes of communication, in addition to a plethora of sensory processing issues that can make a hot summer's day feel like being roasted on a pyre. I am not a people person at all, but that is the result of four and a half decades of adversity and cruelty. Sadistic psychopathic individuals don't demonstrate sensory processing problems, nor do they display deficits in reading other people. These are two very separate spectrums, they aren't remotely alike.
@johnturner1073
@johnturner1073 6 күн бұрын
Listening to this, I realise I have worked with many psychopaths over the years...
@margaretbinns3134
@margaretbinns3134 4 күн бұрын
Like everything else there’s levels of each condition , this was profound to the extreme .
@jelkel25
@jelkel25 3 күн бұрын
I have one colleague at the moment who I have serious suspicions of, lies like others breathe air, manipulative, superiority complex, unwarranted of course and doesn't have a care for anyone but themselves. A real energy vampire. What can you do but keep them away from you as much as possible and don't let on you know. They often over play their hand and do for themselves, just let things play out or failing that, move on myself.
@petyrkowalski9887
@petyrkowalski9887 3 күн бұрын
What a fascinating man and great interview.
@LadyCaroline123
@LadyCaroline123 4 күн бұрын
What a great interviewer.
@glasshalffull8471
@glasshalffull8471 9 ай бұрын
Its always difficult to msintain a superior intellect when you're spending life in jail and the rest of us aren't.
@suemcgregor9248
@suemcgregor9248 27 күн бұрын
I think Brady could turn his "mental illness" on and off like a tap
@fisterklister
@fisterklister 4 күн бұрын
A great psychiatrist - and a gentleman
@StuartHanson-fo7iw
@StuartHanson-fo7iw 15 күн бұрын
It’s a shame Ian didn’t go down south because if he’d met Dennis they might have bored each other to death with their endless monologues of run of the mill nonsense,🇬🇧
@robmcrob2091
@robmcrob2091 4 күн бұрын
Interesting he mentions criminality. My aunt was a psychiatrist and she would say that while you could have many narcissistic, psychopathic or borderline traits clustering in one person she personally would not diagnose a personality disorder in someone who was able to function in society. So all these ruthless bosses or politicians we like to label psychopaths she wouldve regarded as having traits, but unless they committed a crime she wouldn't have diagnosed them.
@maymalone1505
@maymalone1505 4 күн бұрын
Utter noncence 😮
@stealthwarrior5768
@stealthwarrior5768 Күн бұрын
We now know that the majority of psychopaths don't ever get charged with crimes yet cause much harm to others.
@robmcrob2091
@robmcrob2091 Күн бұрын
@stealthwarrior5768 my Aunt would've said such people have psychopathic tendencies. I remember watching a documentary about James Cracknell walking to the south pole and my aunt commenting that he was a textbook psychopath except for his lack of criminality.
@bartlettbigx
@bartlettbigx 9 сағат бұрын
I like that he keeps his cookery books next to Handbook of Antisocial Behavior and Handbook of Pyschopathy
@plurpee.
@plurpee. 4 күн бұрын
You asked some great questions.
@goldensprite3373
@goldensprite3373 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I've wanted something with this depth about this person
@mikebull1972
@mikebull1972 5 күн бұрын
What an interesting man!
@nickinthefield4202
@nickinthefield4202 7 күн бұрын
Fascinating
@gripplehound
@gripplehound 4 күн бұрын
A psychiatrist with no ego. How refreshing. Great interview.
@user-ld7uj9pv8e
@user-ld7uj9pv8e 25 күн бұрын
Would have been interesting if he could have met Myra and given his take on her... compared to Ian.
@WorksopGimp
@WorksopGimp 8 сағат бұрын
"Mr Brady" you give it far too much humanity
@gregchapman5556
@gregchapman5556 Күн бұрын
Utterly fascinating to watch. The questions were very interesting. The Professor was measured and to the point. I was in the military in the 80s. We had a young girl who had tortured and killed other children. The hospital staff insisted on her being guarded 24/7. That was my job. One evening we had a power cut I will never forget her saying in the dark are you scared.
@Blissblizzard
@Blissblizzard Күн бұрын
So yes then. it was [Redacted] As a young adult l overheard conversations, someone who worked at the partly experimental complex, (now long demolished, no paper trail). They were rotated in, like you, they said she was single minded in her sadism, had the endless "patience" to entice the very wary (because they would be trapped and "removed") feral cats at the hospital, and the determination to strangle them no matter how much they fought. All whilst she was supposed to be fully supervised, a child in an adult facility for a "very long time" It would be a fair surmise to speculate that the cover story that we have been told is not true, that is, she must have her "privacy" because, she has a kid, as no child would be safe with her, ever. Even she would know that. Her "patience" and "persistence" would make her very useful in some spheres tho, and she can't exactly walk away either, so, solid investment. That's a fragment of what l know, but won't say any more as her identity is sealed. (My curiosity is sometimes briefly snagged by data holes, scrubbed internet.)
@gregchapman5556
@gregchapman5556 23 сағат бұрын
@@Blissblizzard She was subjected to a D notice. She made a club with nails in it which she used to kill children with,striking them in the face/eyes. She was not an attractive child and the professionals thought this was her reason.
@cakemoss4664
@cakemoss4664 21 сағат бұрын
I think David and Maureen Smith reported that as Brady murdered 17 year old Edward Evans he was screaming at the boy "Bastard. Bastard". I also read in the book 'Beyond Belief' that as a child growing in Glasgow's Gorbals, Brady was called a bastard, his mother being unmarried. Who knows?
@sarahhale-pearson533
@sarahhale-pearson533 Күн бұрын
A feeling of dislike towards a sadistic child murderer? How strange!
@roibot1122
@roibot1122 3 күн бұрын
Professor Coid sounds like a brilliant man
@allisonhogg5131
@allisonhogg5131 7 күн бұрын
Good interview. Ian Brady had acid running through his veins.
@gowdsake7103
@gowdsake7103 4 күн бұрын
Your evidence ?
@christineduffy3113
@christineduffy3113 4 күн бұрын
​@gowdsake7103 Well a man who tortured innocent children is a poisonous person in my eyes perhaps not yours
@JohninRosc
@JohninRosc 2 күн бұрын
Absolutely fascinating interview. Thank you. Jeremy Bamber has been psychoanalysed on numerous occasions since being jailed 39 years ago and no evidence exists for him being a psychopath. That's probably because he is completely innocent of the crimes he is serving time for and that it was indeed a murder/suicide as first evident. A mountain of evidence of his innocence exists and is currently being sat on by the CCRC. Any help you can offer would be gratefully accepted.
@chrisstone8560
@chrisstone8560 Күн бұрын
Jeremy is going nowhere. Don’t get your hopes up
@JohninRosc
@JohninRosc Күн бұрын
@@chrisstone8560 Are you suggesting you know why the CCRC are sitting on the evidence? Essex Police are sitting on even more. If so please elaborate as I'd love to understand why they are doing that to an innocent man.
@johnturner1073
@johnturner1073 6 күн бұрын
In the bookcase behind, amid all the psycho books is one titled ''Cooking for friends''...Silence of the Lambs anyone?
@grahamblack1961
@grahamblack1961 6 күн бұрын
It's 'Cooking for Friends' not 'Cooking Friends'
@MissSpiritual.Soldier
@MissSpiritual.Soldier 5 күн бұрын
@@grahamblack1961😂
@gripplehound
@gripplehound 4 күн бұрын
Haha! I clocked that too!!
@rnw2739
@rnw2739 3 күн бұрын
Even more disturbing is 'The Autobiography of Reg Varney', paperback edition clearly visible amidst those cerebral volumes.
@JohnCox-ut3cv
@JohnCox-ut3cv Күн бұрын
It struck me some time ago that the parents of the children killed are still being tortured by the perpetrators. That seems a major motivator for these crimes. The control and exercise of power over the children was relatively short lived. The torture of the family and friends of the children went on for decades. I want to know more about the childhood of the male perpetrator. Was he enacting a revenge on parents for his own failed childhood?
@grahamhill9499
@grahamhill9499 6 күн бұрын
Imagine a podcast interviewer doing this interview, let me take you back to your childood then laugh
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