I am not bashing on Mormonism but how do you interpret Ephesians 2:8-9, Isaiah 43:10, and Isaiah 42:8?

@@noahremnek3615 I will address your question is 3 sections. 1.) Ephesians 2:8-9. Latter-day Saints believe that we are saved by grace through faith. This is a gift from God, as it says in Ephesians 2:8-9. However, we treat "faith" as a verb, rather than just a noun. For us, true faith must be put into action. This view squares with James 2:14-26 (you will note this is also in the Bible), quoted below which states that grace without works is dead: 14 What profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. 2.) As for Isaiah 43:10, the word "Elohim" is found in the Bible over 2500 times. It can be singular, as in the case of YHWH, but it is also plural and means gods, or dieties. In the original Hebrew, Genesis chapter 1 says that "in the beginning, the Gods created," plural, not singular. It seems clear that the term God is much broader than most presently think of it. Perhaps there are different levels of Gods, or it is a term that is widely applied to beings that we don't know of, who obviously don't hold the same standing as Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ. There is also much archeological evidence that there have been several Hebrew reformations, where Jewish theology was changed. Did you know that there were once statues of a Heavenly Mother God that the ancient Hebrews also worshipped, in the ancient Jewish temple? Don't take my LDS word for it. Margaret Barker, a non-LDS Christian scholar (Baptist, I believe, though I could be mistaken), has written and spoken at length about a Heavenly Mother, and the evidence for her. Here is a link to one of her addresses: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n9J2bLGJqtKaiKc.html. You will be amazed. If you don't like her presentation, please go study original Greek and Hebrew texts. Regardless of all of the evidence presented, WE need only concern ourselves with the God of this world, our one true God. We worship no other, no other God can save or redeem us. 3.)As for Isaiah 42:8. Again, as LDS Christians, we only worship Heavenly Father, through His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ. We believe that Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ are 2 separate individuals. The Holy Ghost, or Holy Spirit, is the 3rd member of the Godhead. So already, we believe in three separate individuals that act in harmony, in unison of purpose. This would be God. Yes, we do believe that we can progress, that a loving Heavenly Father would want us to progress, as we want our children to progress.He wants us to be joint heirs with Christ. However, we never supplant Him. He is, and will always be, our God.

@@latter-daysaintchristian4134: Great reply and wonderfully explained. Thank you!

Are you familiar with the song, "Praise to the Man"?

You lack any understanding of what is going on.

Perhaps you'd care to enlighten me.

@@aservantofJEHOVAH7849 ...... You don't seem to understand what the book of mormon is all about or its purpose. It is not another Bible and it is not meant to replace the Bible; "The Bible" as you know it is far from being a complete set of scripture and it has many flaws contained therein because of the numerous times which it has been translated and re translated by men who were not only lacking in authority, but most were also corrupt and much of the time their objectives were only for political purposes to gain power. It is however, considered to be a sacred record as far as it has been correctly translated. The book of mormon was written for our time about a people whom closely parallel our own present day society just prior to the return of Christ so if you understand the book of mormon, you will understand what is happening in the present and what will happen in the future. The book of mormon is complementary to the compilation of biblical books because the records testify of each other, while the gospel of Christ is presented by the Lord to two different sets of people on two separate continents and yet the peoples are closely tied to each other.

If JEHOVAH could not preserve his original revelation why should I trust any new "revelation". We live in an information age we can compare translations investigate ancient copies of the text in its original languages. There is no need to take any man's word for anything. The only way any new "revelation" can be verified is by comparing it with the original. 1Peter1:25ASV"But the word of the Lord abideth for ever. And this is the word of good tidings which was preached unto you."

@@aservantofJEHOVAH7849 ...... If you put these narrow limitations in the way you interpret everything then you could convince yourself that nothing is possible. The scriptures clearly testify of an apostasy and a restoration and of God's dealings with each of the 10 tribes of Israel and if you can't get past the most basic concepts and the nature of God, then how can you learn anything else?

kimmyhitz said, "you and I both know that it does not say any of that in the bible" Yes it does. Did not Christ transform from God into a mortal man? Yes, it's in the Bible. Did not Christ die on the cross and transform into a spirit? Yes, it's in the Bible. And did not Christ then transform yet again and take upon Himself a tabernacle of flesh and bone in the resurrection? Yes, it's in the Bible. Do any of those transformative phases of God lesson His divinity? Not for me. kimmyhitz said, "And Satan will exist forever in the lake of fire with all unbelievers of God's word." I'm sorry that you judge me in this way. I believe good hearted people laboring to the best of their ability to love God and neighbor will not be cast into a lake of fire for all eternity. God is a loving God who has a plan of salvation, not just for all mankind but also personalized plans for you and for me. Eventually that plan will lead most of God's children to Christ, whether in this life or in the life to come. The sooner one embraces Christ and the fullness of His gospel the greater joy, happiness, and peace they will find.

At least the ones who are thinking.

10 years later, more evidence than ever that he knew exactly what he was talking about.