me too its too true

I felt that one

that's so funny since only I have created more than 5 games in a pure Rust Seems like I'm the only creator of those 5 games the author mentioned

Oh goodness, I can't stop laughing :D

The best quote. My honest advice for people serious about Rust game devoplement: Forget about the engine solutions. They are unfinished and untested in large scale commercial productions. You will hit a wall easier as the needs of your game grow compared to Unreal / Unity. Instead, setup your own wgpu rendering and Rapier physics (if you need physics). There's nothing wrong in studying the engine solutions' specific parts such as bevy's skeletal animations, just keep the full control to yourself. It's more work and effort, but maybe if you are aiming for quick commercial game release, Rust is not the best language to develop with at the moment.

5 games and 50 engines had me dying.

Haha, yeah, I was gonna say “you can’t spell trust without Rust.”

I'm just picturing an unsafe macro called trust_me_bro throwing yeets

In Idris there is a function believe_me : a -> b

everybody knows it's failing cause of this damn memory management xD

Why marry if you could just borrow instead?

They must be lacking tRust

I tried it but for some reason my gf is not very happy about using the borrowing model for our relationships.

yeet

That one got me too

Javascript - I love it!

@@blazehawkins2759 I wouldn't recommend it

​@@Madar2252 why? wait lemme guess. Because you use RUST to write wasm? 😂

@@sudiproy4413 it's a reference from a video Interview with Senior JS Developer from this channel in case you didn't get the joke. Well, actually i wouldn't recommend it either

bad idea !

Brilliant

Gotta say it piqued my interest about Rust and it confirmed my intuitions about C#

Actually really good take. If you learn the biggest pitfalls and struggles and think you can tolerate them, I don't think you're gonna mind the rest of the languages.

so accurate

…yet, they cannot handle a single pointer

A wonderful yet a big lie.

@@leshommesdupillyC devs obviously can’t handle them either considering rust exists in the first place

@@leshommesdupilly ?

@@uwuLegacy *the c devs that finally switch to rust

So true

Ah man that made me actually laugh haha

Let's be fair -- they avoided the messes of inheritance. Or ml modules. And they don't have higher kinded types (well, they have GATs which let you do the same thing).

@@einargs Why would higher-kinded types be bad?

and the operating system

**Turns around in panic** NO the browser!!!

Firefox goes brrr

This answer is goated 😂

Servo be like

Honestly facts. I sometimes see rust analyzer spend 2 minutes trying to compile the entire repo and itll sometimes shit on PROC MACRO NOT FOUND. ALSO L LOSER I DONT KNOW WHAT THIS "SeRdE SeRiaLize and DeSerIaLizE" IS. Re run it. Teehee, i made an ooosie, ur code is fine don'r hate me uwu

@@arizona_iced_out_boy Dont worry i spend 5 min compiling my java android application and spring boot services EACH

@@arizona_iced_out_boy the rust-analyzer compiles for a full hour compiling the substrate repo.

I don't get that meme, because if you use a powerful enough machine compile times in Rust are not a problem. Even if the crate takes longer than you want to compile, you can just split it into smaller crates. Moreover, I have a project where both Rust and JS ecosystem is used, and producing a JS bundle takes like 10x more time than it takes to generate the WASM bundle part of it.

Meanwhile in Python, the time saved by not compiling is paid in runtime and bug hunts 😢

_Very allegorical_

@@tanveerhasan2382 the sacred and the propane

Thredripper

Jeeez, is it just that unoptimized at the moment or what?

@@TheMohawkNinja llvm optimisation pipeline for release builds takes ages and then for incremental builds the long part is always gonna be the linking step (you can substitute a better linker depending on platform, e.g. mold for linux) because most linkers we have are archaic monstrosities that dont parallelise well and that doesnt play nice with the deluge of object files rustc will spit out for incremental builds

Tbf, wrap all of it in macros and it'll become more readable.

@@principleshipcoleoid8095 Someone at work actually does this. A macro for checking error results A macro for defining const values etc... I hate it.

@@principleshipcoleoid8095 now you have to also know what weird magic the macro does

trust_me!

Dz XD

first what I had to do when tried Rust first time - is force unsafe because else multithreading communication with external hardware wont work so funny xD

​@@Morimea Yea? External hardware is inherently unsafe.

@@thegoldenatlas753 then what the point of Rust? Entire modern programming is - communicating with multiple devices in multiple threads and sync data.

ye, wouldn't be half as good if it were jus surface level jokes

He even got the hair right.

Could you share any resources regarding that? I wanna take a look how feasible that is even for a prototype

Not bad, but Terry Davis wrote one that could talk to God in 10 years.

@@ericconnor8419 Lol, this is perfect satire of any video comment section regarding Temple OS.

Ken and Dennis were fucking legends though

They don't make 'em like that anymore.

most languages compilers are your friend rust compiler is your frenemy

Complements his blue eyes nicely

@@gestaltengine6369 Facts it's the first thing I noticed and I like women

No programming gloves though

now i can't unsee it why is he so attractive with it

@@heartache5742 Looks like Brad Pit with it. Crazy.

Kill me, and I will Rust.

that would be interesting

Ligma

@@coldestbeer Ligma mama! got em!

Especially that one who constantly makes subtle changes in browser logotype. Separate one with GNOME designer (I personally hate them and would be glad to see satire about GNOME approach).

those are two different people and UX people are screeming at everything UI ""design"" people come up with

Ded in 3 minutes

It wouldn't be too difficult to adapt cargo-vibe to do this...

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j9yYn7Kltqe5YHU.html

@@blackmarvolo wheres the blteplug crate, but instead of sex toys you control a taser over bluetooth

We're on the same page that the "yeet" reference was about the "await" keyword discussion, right?

@@JMurph2015 Nah, it was about *another* flamewar about what we should call the keyword for early-returning inside try-blocks, IIRC. Eventually the lang team decided "You know what, fuck it, let's call it the "yeet" keyword until we have a working implementation, that'll stop the bikeshedding". So now "yeet 64" is a valid Rust statement in nightly.

😅 For real, the funniest line, apart from I joined a couple of start ups in this month or I wanted to compile my personality into a crate... actually too many lool

😂😂😂

lol

true.

lmaoooooo

JDSL ftw

He's a genius

Everyone send this to Prime until he watches it lol.

Don't forget the swiss exercise ball.

... hey I have an AKG Headphone

@@blueberryiswar show me your homemade OS

You dropped this: 🚀

rust is blazingly typed

I shit you not, my old software manager, when comparing Rust and C compilation times, told us that "C's compilation is blazingly fast". That phrase stuck with me and now I feel like he was making an inner joke while trashing Rust in some aspect.

Existence of Rust developers who have not yet started thinking about learning Rust is a testament to the power of the Rust language and its compiler.

Theres like three youtubers I know that are criminally spreading their rust cultism.

​@@ollicron7397I assume Mr No Boilerplate is a senior member?

To rewrite rust... in rust

​@@flaksoft8003they already did that. The first version of the compiler was written in OCaml.

It's not *not* true, though.

⁠​⁠@@olivierfaure5896😂

literally everyone are either making game engine or GUI library in Rust

​@@tui3264 To be fair, this is also true for all the programming languages, the number of games you have is usually half the the number of game engines people tried to make and failed hahahahaha

@@diadetediotedio6918 yeah it is easy to learn Graphics api by making game engine :p

@@tui3264 right, when we are too stupid to dig into an existing api some of us tend to do that.

+1

And active aggressivness towards devs. Lile kill -9 prod applications because of memory spikes

Did it finish by now?

ETA tomorrow

@@cleteblackwell1706 next life

golang devs have negative personality, though

I need a Kubernetes one! I have some PTSD from it.

so much down the rabbithole, we need a devops one, azure one etc.

The Kubernetes one would definitely kill me. I dream in YAML.

It is one of his best videos. The Emacs one wasn't too funny!

2 weeks wait maderfacka??

getting confused with zig and rust.

Props for repping George Su 💯

How is this comment 2w old but the video says 3d???

@@mattymattffs Rust lets you time travel.

What is the relation between a set and it's macros?🤨

@@nootnoot42 Good question! With cult`s macros, you can have any relation you want, if you use GoP (Good old Predicates), it's set algebra system, and import Golem, which is the definition of cult, written in GoP. Using it you may just join doomsday anyway, since using Golem in that way, you might create a sentient self-conscious computer program, that results in technological singularity and the removal of human genome heritage from the entire information layer of the universe. Maybe you can use LEM (lambda expression model) too to reach that goal, which has an implementation in cult's macro system.

That situtation is actually sensible and interesting. Graphics APIs (OpenGL, Vulkan, Direct3D,...) have the following challanges: 1) things are checked at runtime and *only* at runtime 2) exhaustive testing is impractical (you need the combinations of all physical GPUs and all drivers) 3) the API has a lot of variability (different implemented featuresets, different API versions,...). All in all, this is a hot mess for graphics & gamel developers. If some technology were to tame this (and prevent lots of grey hair for game developers), this would probably be worth billions and billions of dollars. Personally, I'm not sure that graphics APIs can be tamed with Rust without constraining the API functionality too much (there is just too much variety there...). TOTOH if these projects actually succeed, it would prove Rust to be a tool of truly monstrous powers...

@@sasas845 That's exactly the reason why wgpu exists, and it is beautiful.

​@@sasas845 using Rust for game/gane engine development is painful.

​@@marcossidoruk8033using any language for game or game engine development is always *eventually* painful, when you get big enough to actually run up against the hardware. Using Rust is making the assumption that the average to peak suckage will be lower than other languages. You probably are thinking more about the scripting side, but you can host a runtime, including new Rust-flavored scripting languages if you want that hot loading experience.

"...worst" here FTFY

Because of the abstractions

lol

it's because he's stoned

Could you explain what he means by memory leaks happen but it will never be referenced again? As in does it keep on allocating more, or is everthing a const, regenerated upon altering?

@@nootnoot42 The Cult defines memory safety as the absence of undefined behaviours, such as data race, double free, dereferencing memory not/no longer allocated... A memory leak, a concept independent of Rust, is when you ask memory from the OS, but then forget about it without de-allocating it. One way to phrase that it is lost is that it's memory which won't be referenced again. As such, it is not unsafe per se. It keeps on allocating more. You can have leaks of constant size if there's not in a loop, but you cannot "alter" leaked data, that's the thing, the OS reserves it for you, and you no longer know where it is. Memory leak is a big deal when comparing memory models of different languages, and the absence of leak is a big selling point of garbage collecting over reference counting and manual management. What is funny about that is that the cult sounds like it's a non issue since it is not memory safety per se. The truth however, is that Rust is a huge upgrade from C/C++ when it come to avoiding leakage, since you can't cause them without using smart pointer or explicitly leaking potentially in combination with unsafe mode.

@@nootnoot42create a reference counting pointer a, create reference counting pointer b pointing to a, modify a to point to b: references will never reach zero so destructors will never be called and memory will never be freed, even if main completes. This behaviour is why .forget() is considered safe; rust memory safety does not guarantee no memory leakage (as proven by the first example). forget() takes ownership of a value and makes it impossible to re-reference, but does not call the destructor. An explicit leak.

@@thomson765 Thank you

Shut up Hanque!

I have a coworker that unironically believes MATLAB is the best language

The MATLAB language is public domain. The MATLAB program is proprietary. Programming languages can't be copyrighted or licensed, they are all 100% public domain.

*proceeds to interview an enby*

​@@techtutorvideos The language itself and its specifications is public domain, the name/branding is not. You can't copyright any form of language, including programming languages. Please just google it. There are even open source implementations of it and every other "proprietary" programming language.

is labview that popular

Among those who still remember it ...

Yeah, what? Who puts videos on for premiere 15 days in advance?

@@vesk4000 - I hope he changes it to 30 days now.

​@@vesk4000rust developers

It is part of the Joke

That's how long it takes to `cargo build --release`

There's a lot of Haskell mentions in his emacs video - worth checking out

🤣🤣🤣 "The others don't really think at all"

I have written plenty of LaTeX, and lemme tell you - every time I have some incomprehensible error I can't find and need to go to stack exchange for the 12th time that hour, I despair that it's still infinitely better than MS Office for maths.