It should be $1500

​@FPChris It would get cheaper if it could MASS PRODUCED Einstein, as long as its niche that's impossible. And also considering you save while driving that compared to a car , your price limit is ridiculously low compared to one year of an average car.

y1hardtop Thank you!

better.bike is that a freestyle back spin set up

better.bike still available??

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There is a floor its removable.

+mark hannon that's great to hear, keep us in mind!

Buy a golf cart for cheap

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epSos.de this is true but if cyclist don't take to the streets then it's easily ignored. If more cyclist are on the streets it forces their hands to deal with us! 😉

Yes, we need more roads that have a speed limit of 30 km/h and cameras that give out fines to the people who do speeding. I have seen many people who go 50 or 60 km/h in a street with a lower speed limit. I think it is possible to put the bumps in the middle of the street. Those bumps that have a gap in the middle, so that the cyclists can go trough the middle and the cars would still bump, if they speed to much. I think the speed limits in smaller streets and the technology of the bums and speed cameras can create an environment, where cycling, walking and crossing the street can be safe and relaxing, the car drivers will adjust and to learn how to cruise, instead of speeding like ina race for the extra 5 seconds, before the next traffic light stop. That being said, I also see many cyclists who run the red traffic light. I think we need more roundabouts, where the people can decide if they cross or not, in accordance to the situation. The drivers in the cars would probably also stop and wave to the people to cross, if they would know that there is no traffic light and no pressure to rush trough the roundabout.

epSos.de yes cyclist need to be held responsible for obeying traffic laws as well. I now record all my rides, so if anything happens I have video.

San Francisco's Critical Mass is working on that in San Francisco.

I hope to bicycle in other places to be an example. Who's with me?

Vitality Massage The PEBL costs $5950. And yes, the PEBL is less noisy due to a full cloth interior.

Maurice games add in the cost of insurance, gas, maintenance, depending on where you live/work cost of parking, and maybe a stretch but health care or gym cost to make up for the lack of exercise you would get in the pebl. All that together your in far less with a Pebl then any new car.

Popeye Gordon so if you went with the 110 watt panel the pebl comes in at $6350.00. That also includes doors, peddle wells, fabric interior, room for passenger, USB charger, reverse, and fully inclosed all included of course. One thing that the Elf has on the Pebl at this point is turn time to receive the bike. Don't know how long it takes to get the Pebl but quoted time was about 3 months but I don't think they will hit that starting up. We shall see haven't heard from them since ordering. Ether it is great to have more then one option for people to choose from.

Popeye Gordon how do you know they will not make a profit? Are you their accountant, or is this an assumption on your part? Maybe the elfs price is inflated and they are wanting to make to much of a profit. Maybe the Pebl is ok with making a little less profit if it means more Pebls on the road.

Popeye Gordon not sure what video your talking about. But agree with a carbon tax. Just watched Bikes vs. Cars on Netflix and it is fascinating. The you have Musk that wants to start a drilling co. to elevate congestion on roads. Happy for the electric vehicle but that still has a high carbon footprint then an elf or a Pebl.

The problem is, where do you keep it? Its the size of a small car, its not a lightweight bicycle that you can throw over your shoulder and bring up into your apartment.

Well, it would be hard to store if you lived in an apartment, but I guess if you lived in the suburbs, you could just store it the way you'd store a boat. It could be put in the driveway or backyard and covered with a tarp.

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Charles Elliott So glad to hear that! Speaking as Nevin Murray co founder, you're absolutely right! The PEBL is a blast to get around in, I drive mine 40 miles a day and it makes the pace of my day much more relaxed. Keep us in mind over the next few months. We are going into production right now!

Thank you, Nevin! Will do!

is it like a car? would you have to drive it in the road with other cars or on the sidewalk like a bike? are you required any license to drive it? or registration, ins. etc.?

+xtafpfhr you drive the PEBL on the side of the road and let cars pass you, our videos show some good examples of this. Regulations will vary state to state but federally you do not need a license, insurance or registration.

Any other words, it's not highway legal. It's driven like a bicycle on the side of the road. Correct? I don't think you can get away with driving this on an interstate highway where speed limits are 70 mph. Talking about road kill. However, I do like it far better than a bicycle.

+Thomas Anton Geurts thank you so much! It's very true, that's why the PEBL exists! Imagine if there were government insensitives for the PEBL...

Thomas Anton Geurts correct! co2 isn't a pollutant tho'..... plants breath it.

better.bike you'd be very rich!

Yeah, but cars are just more fun though. I'm sure this won't do 150mph through the forest or sound like 50 demons screaming an opera.

Technically you are wrong, there are a lot of ways we could clean up the pollution on the planet in a way it wont effect us so much, it would just kill off a lot of other species, such as dumping iron into the ocean to raise its iron content by about 7% and sectioning off an area the size of roade island and using it as a landfill and ten using the gasses it lets off as natural gas, but there are moral issues with that lol

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Paul McCartney oops.. better check the website for both the pebl and elf, bud.. their base price is neck and neck now 🙈

Please put price with ad

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Two company bring in healthy competition and bring in awareness, in saving the planet it also brings savings to the customers,... the E.L.F. did bring in the customers to this field & interest to the people

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+Blue Moon Anarchy we do offer an optional 120w solar panel, however for most people it is more cost effective to go with a larger battery. If you live in a southern state solar is the way to go. If you don't, upgrading your battery​ will give you more range for the money.

What will the people who have knee pain do?this is not suitable for knee pain people

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@@thenmozhisivakumar9618 it actually is, I have knee problems, I can't even walk more than 200 meters without tears in my eyes. But pedaling is really fine for your joints. Greetings

Say what? The ELF is considered a motorcycle in a few states and you'd better have insurance-at least liability.

Hey Popeye do you know which state that is?

Make one out of junk bikes. A TIG welder can be had for a few hundred dollars.

+MattOGormanSmith yep that's all you'll need...

Its likely ny,but just my guess.

in time, well, you could go to the cycle parking rack and use a good security cable-lock.

Need one that's covered all around the pedals underneath, so roadkill won't spatter onto a biker. Sigh...

+ScarySenpai that's amazing! Unfortunately we do not ship to Australia yet, but keep in the loop because over the next year we may start shipping globally. Shipping will be expensive just to let you know. Glad to know that younger generations believe in our goal as well!

better.bike thank you for replying to me! and thanks for the info

@@badonkadonk2646 did you get you bike kid? I hope so

Or carjackers.

These are for rich folk who live in quiet villages not us city peasants 😆

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batlin yes that was my first thought as here in Cornwall, UK we have sooooO many drunks and people off their face on drugs this would be targeted as a means to getting their next fix

how much are they now? do you or anybody else knows?

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Its a win-win situation

They are kind of a death trap . I own an elf and To the extent that cars have to slow down, pass safely and then speed up past these on the road is the extent that they also waste fuel & cause pollution. They should at least be able to keep up with traffic in 25 mph if not 35 mph zones to avoid all of the pollution and gas-guzzling that is going to be created by cars having to slow then press their accelerators to get by these things. Companies like Outrider build a much more harmonious vehicle with traffic because they're a little bit faster, like cars, therefore flow much better with cars. I own both and that's my opinion.

+J Clar yes, regular cars should be banned and the world would be a betterplace in many ways.

Agreed. Would def like a skinnier and cheaper one available!

It's all that fuckin hemp

@No lives 4 that matter That's where the hemp comes in. You get real high and think an 8K death trap is a good thing. They should give one to Alexandra Ostigo Cortizone so she can make your gas guzzling CO2 producing evil pickup truck illegal and save the planet or the wales or whatever she thinks we can save if we listen to her.

The mitigating circumstance is that you have no auto insurance. Just homeowner's and health insurance. I would have to use this with Lo Jack for eight thousand. I would have to think about mirrors like a car too. If you have isolated rail to trails like in Central Florida, I would feel comfortable riding in one.

Best way to get around ( NO dealing with the DMV ) any questions about these devices fee free to ask

The Black Knight Its called manufacturing.

@@broccolihart1 Mass consumption justifies mass production, which in turn will bring costs down.

How much did you pay for your Yugo?

​@@kenbob1071 haha u read that tesla vs yugo

Where do I fit my St Bernard to take her swimming or go 200 miles to visit my sister, this kind of stuff is for an incredibly small group of hippies, just buy the Renault Twizzy and have done

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Hi Popeye. Firstly, we are starting production as we speak so we're finally getting up and running! Next as we're sure you know, you have a significant advantage of living in Florida. Most Americans do not and thus we have determined that a solar panel should be an option rather than a standard. Instead we offer a larger standard battery of 16ah (768wh). Our optional panel is 110w, thus our panel in full sun takes around 7 hours to charge (768/110=6.9) So yes, for a Floridian solar makes sense, but in the majority of the US it does not. In the summer the PEBL's doors can roll up as seen in the video. As we also explained, wen you do this you get a cool breeze while your riding. In short, the PEBL can be just as open as the ELF. You're right, there are 800+ ELFs on the road according to OT, but from what we've heard from many ELF customers is far from your experience. We have taken recommendations from all velomobile owners along our design process and as a result, the PEBL is here.

Popeye we all know your insane love and overly defensive stance of anything negative about the elf. Not sure why you troll so much on the Pebl videos. There are differences I have rode many different Velos and the elf and Pebl are not Velos they are pedal cars at best. You could call them a human assisted electric vehicle. With that said when researching both the Elf and Pebl for my next bike purchase the Pebl won out for me, because of several different factors. Also spoke to several elf owners. Compared to the options and builds of the Elf I felt the Pebl was a better option. Again this is a matter of opinion, but If people have the opinion of the Pebl being a better option your statements of opinions and assumptions are probably not helping win people over to the Elf. Just my opinion though.

+Popeye Gordon nope ours are mechanical. We haven't any problems with cables. Are there any tight radiuses in your cable routing?

Seems Popeye should come with a disclaimer, he shows up every time someone mentions ELF and claims it is the greatest thing in existence. I wouldn't be surprised if he is their main PR guy.

MsSomeonenew let's not mention that if the Elf is so great why is there not more content saying such? The only real review of the Elf was done by blue monkey after living with it for a year. Now I do see some issues with that review, but they bring up good points as well. The other reviews are from people who ride it for a half hour. There is a guy that "debunks" the blue monkey review who seems to have NEVER rode an elf (or a velomobile) and has disabled comments.

Did you hear something about the factor of scale? If they could produce 500k units per year it would be much cheaper. But YOU prefer to buy a car...

And to not car anymore...

8000 thats just insane !!!

@David Laurance $1200 isn't a lot of money for an e-bike.

Joel Richard --- For 2-5k you could buy a very nice carbon road bike. So light that you barely feel the hills.

ya too much !

Try to build one for yourself cheaper.

All I have to say is look at how much you spend on that four wheel automobile with its insurance, fuel and maintenance. Then look at how much this lacks and maybe you can see how little maintenance it needs only costing a few hundred a year to keep maintained.

We now offer 6 month zero interest financing! www.better.bike/financing/

You need to get a job first

I was thinking the exact same thing. The PEBL looks very light. Perhaps light enough that 2 people could just lift the thing into the back of a pickup truck.

Yeah I guess I would never ever owned one of these in San Francisco! For that reason and it really doesn't matter how good your bike lock is trust me

That and it’s a death trap

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+martiebaby well the PEBL is a two seater, just only one person can pedal at a time. We thought about that though but decided that it would be way to wide to be practical.

Martiebaby and better.bike, maybe one day there´ll be a slightly longer version to allow two to pedal as with the tandem cycle(?).

The floor of the pedal area actually has inserts that slip into the holes to make the PEBL fully enclosed. As far as critters, we have not had a single problem yet. Just don't leave food in it!

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