Thats because one p[erson owns 90%+ of their stock.

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Hopefully that one will have 10GbE / 25GbSFP+ included. That would actually be "feature complete" for me.

Yeah these name conventions are getting crazy

I'd wait for the G2 revision which adds the geofence garage door opener but only supports token ring.

not going to happen. these have to sell. if it does happen let it be. but not going to hold my breath for it.

With at least a bit more decent 10GbE connectivity. I think I like this machine, but I won't buy a 5GbE router with some 10GbE capabilities.

yeah for how much though...

Thanks for your feedback! UDM Pro Max is about pure gateway performance. It essentially doubles the scale and routing performance of what a standard UDM Pro/SE is capable of and pairs with a UniFi Switch Pro Max for 2.5GbE and PoE++ ports to serve hundreds of UniFi devices.

@@UbiquitiIncit’s 2024, I don’t think any next evolution in this product line should ever include gigabit switches. If it’s meant to be used with a separate switch anyway, might as well scrap the gigabit switch for a third nvr bay at this point

People need to stop buying this crap. All the products are artificially stunted and designed in a way to have limits that have to overcome by pairing with another over priced UI product.

they probably just overclocked their existing chipset stock by +300mhz and launched a new product lol

It was a game changer for the small business I implemented it at! They save so much money over conventional hosting plus they have full control of everything.

everything i have heard say its not worth it....

@@russellharrison619 you heard wrong IMO but I'm always on the lookout for something better. When they said it wasn't worth it, what service did they recommend that's comparable in price, features and control?

@@russellharrison619 its getting better week by week, there still scaling and working out kinks

@@russellharrison619 its wortth it now, maybe not a few months ago

It would be $10 more expensive

probably even less than $10 with large orders, it would be even simpler to slap an octa-core cpu on the motherboard and call it a day; my phone from 2014 had a better chipset than this quadcore@2ghz that is absolutely pegged with just a couple of their advertised features turned on... what a shame

I would like POE++ on a couple of ports because it would work amazing for sites that need additional switches for POE passthrough.

Close. It would also need 2.5Gbps ports as that is what is needed for any of their wifi 7 APs.

no, that will be on the UDM-Pro-Max-Ultra-Mega-Special-Edition coming soon

Who uses IPv6?

@@nlmaster9811 well my personal usecase is as someone developing network applications in a homelab. But many of the hyperscalers are IPv6 only internally, many IoT devices require IPv6, some ISPs have switched to IPv6 public addresses only (when I had an ISP that did this, I ran into issues with the NAT64 and some p2p applications), and also people who want to experience modern networking: you don't need DHCP (though you can use both 2 message and 4 message DHCP), any machine can become a router, and if you have enough devices, you don't have to worry about running out of addresses.

@@nlmaster9811 well my personal usecase is developing network applications and using my homelab to test. But, most hyperscalers are IPv6 only internally, a lot of IoT devices only support IPv6, some ISP only hand out public IPv6 (which, when I had an ISP do this, some p2p applications had issues with a NAT64), and anyone who just wants modern networking, IPv6 supports any machine being a router, prefix delegation, SLAAC, you don't need DHCP (though you can do both 2 message and 4 message DHCP), it has many more available address and if you're developing applications designed to work on cellular networks, it's a must. It has also been around for 30ish years now, while IPv4 has been around for over 40 years, if we're going based off initial RFC drafts, so it's not like it's bleeding edge tech.

To make you buy separate PoE switch...

yea me to, just 5Gig is so 2020

UniFi USP RPS Pro kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gqimjaSb2tTPZas.html

Confirming true HA w/ automatic Shadow Mode failover will be supported on UDM Pro Max / Pro / SE with UniFi OS 4.0.

@@UbiquitiIncwhen will 4.0 release?

@@Boglim They're probably not going to respond to this. But early versions of it were provided to reviewers for testing which probably means it will hit Early Access pretty soon. Official release is probably at least a month+ away.

@@createdbyericthanks for the info

Sadly not. Crosstalk Solutions did a video on it and confirmed after talking with their Unifi rep it does not work with either the SE or standard UDM Pro.

High Avail Automatic Shadow Mode will be available for rack-mounted Dream Machine Devices (Pro, Se, Pro Max).

@@UbiquitiInc But not back and forth, right? Like an SE won't work with a pro max.

@@SentientNut that’s correct

Well, the founder came from Apple so… lol

You can designate one of the fiber cages as a WAN port. You would just need to get a SFP+ module for it and you should be good.

@@chaosfenix The top SFP+ port is WAN 2 out of the box. What Joe is saying is that there aren't enough ports for 2 10 gig WAN while also having a 10 gig LAN which is accurate.

@@mr.campbellhouse Ah I missed that. You are correct then. Honestly I don't like the device at all. How do they justify charging $230 more than the UDM Pro for simply adding a single SATA drive bay? If this thing really is intended for larger deployments it doesn't make sense. Anyone that is installing hundreds of unifi devices and thousands of endpoints is not going to stick their security system on their firewall. They are going to get a separate NVR which Ubiquiti already sells. They also aren't going to use gigabit ports or even 10GBE ports for their trunk ports. They are seriously trying to portray this as an enterprise level device all while limiting most of the ports to gigabit? They do realize that gigabit Ethernet came out in 1999 right? If they actually wanted to have this be more for enterprise they should have dropped the drive cages and the 8GBE ports. Instead they should have had a 10GbE RJ45 port, a console port, and around 6 QSFP28 ports so they could actually connect to the trunk of their network. As is this thing will bottleneck it. If they wanted to add even more ports, especially since they got rid of the drive cages, that would be fine. I don't think anyone would complain about more ports or faster ports if they didn't balloon the price doing so. If they actually want an all in one device the drive cages are great but those 8 RJ45 ports should all have POE with probably 4 having POE++ and the other 4 having POE+. They also should be at least 2.5Gbps. The RJ45 WAN port should be 10GbE capable and the 2 fiber cages should be QSFP28. If they wanted to add more ports to this that would be fine. I would be fine with more SFP+ cages or more 2.5GBE ports or another RJ45 WAN port for a backup WAN connection but I just layed out where they should have gone with it keeping the port count and type the same.

@@chaosfenix What you are describing is going to cost a lot more than $599. Ultimately, this is for small/medium businesses who want more WAN throughput. As I mentioned in another comment, layer 3 switching mostly negates the benefit of this device having SFP28. Ultimately, anyone benefiting from the features you requested is going to be connecting to their switches not this device, making the addition of better on board switch moot.

@@mr.campbellhouse Yes but those same people won't care about the additional drive bays either. This device is intended to be a all-in-one for SMB but it is seriously lacking on the networking side as they haven't bothered to upgrade it from the original UDM Pro that came out 3-4 years ago. Would it cost more? yes, but I don't think it would cost as much as you think it will either. I mean they have 8 10Gbps SFP+ ports on their aggregation switch and that only costs $270. If this device is meant to be an AIO for SMB then obviously they are going to have other layer 3 switches in their network but those are going to be connected with something faster than the 1Gbps RJ45 ports this thing has. They will need at least those 10Gbps SFP+ ports. This device is frustrating because instead of trying to be a jack of all trades it is doing everything poorly. They can use RJ45 ports. That is fine. But if they are using copper ports in a modern device they should be at least 2.5Gbps capable and they should at least consider making them POE Capable. If they don't want to do that because this is an enterprise switch meant to connnect thousands of devices then that is fine too. They should just be using more fiber ports instead then. I would like QSFP28 ports but hey if those are too expensive for the price range they want then SFP+ would be okay too. For some comparisons. Mikrotik was able to put 2.5GbE on their very similarly performing Mikrotik CRS310-8G+2S+IN for only $200. UDMs have more creature comforts and I do appreciate that but it isn't like it would break the bank to make them 2.5Gbps capable. Another Mikrotik switch, the CRS504-4XQ-IN, was also able to put 4 QSFP ports on it that actually run at 100Gbps each or can be bifurcated to support up to 16 25Gbps connections. It costs $655. Yes the UDM does a lot more than a basic switch and demands a premium for that but those 8 RJ45 ports on it aren't anything special and are just basic layer 3 ports.

Yeah I don’t really get it either. I don’t think anyone was waiting for that extra drive when you can buy the NVR for about the same price and have a dedicated Protect machine with 4 drives. The extra routing capacity is nice though. Especially since commercial multi gig lines are more and more affordable.

Killshot

Thanks for your feedback! UDM Pro Max is about pure gateway performance. It essentially doubles the scale and routing performance of what a standard UDM Pro/SE is capable of. UDM Pro Max is designed for large deployments where uplinked via SFP+ to Pro Aggregation and Switch Pro Max will be common to run hundreds of UniFi devices and thousands of clients.

@@UbiquitiInc Who would consolidate their NVR storage into a single device in such a deployment? It would make much more sense to break that out like you have already done with the NVR. You also already use SFP28 ports for aggregation on your high capacity aggregation switch. I get that you may have had a different use case in mind but your use case doesn't make sense in the real world. Anyone who legitimately has hundreds of unifi devices and thousands of endpoints would be doing all of these connections with fiber in which case every single one of the ports on here should have been fiber. They also wouldn't use a firewall as their camera storage. If they are planning to get dedicated switches for all of the devices I can guarantee you they will be getting dedicated NVRs. edit to fix grammar.

@@Gren4te yes the extra routing capacity is nice but their decisions elsewhere kinda don't make sense. They are bottlenecking that performance by putting so many slow GBE ports on it. If their use case is really the hundreds of unifi devices and thousands of clients then they should have dropped the HDD cages. Nobody operating at that scale is going to put their camera storage on the same device. They are going to use a NVR. After that they should have changed the ports. Again nobody operating at that scale uses copper for their trunk, unless it was installed 10 years ago and they haven't bothered upgrading. They should have dropped all but like 2 of the RJ45 ports eligible for WAN and then had like 6 QSFP28 Ports.

Be happy you saved $100 and got ports with POE.