UDM-Pro-Max Gateway: What You Need to Know

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The new UniFi Dream Machine Pro Max Gateway appliance is the most powerful UniFi gateway to date. This heavy hitter can handle over 200 UniFi devices and over 2000 client devices.
The UDM-Pro-Max features dual hard drive bays for RAID1 Protect surveillance storage, a 2.5Gbps WAN port, and coming soon in UniFi 4.0 - Shadow Mode High Availability for redundancy.
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0:00 - Intro
1:11 - UDM Pro Max Overview
3:34 - UDM Pro Max Throughput Performance
4:08 - UDM Pro Max Hard Drive Bays
4:45 - Shadow Mode High Availability
9:04 - Large UniFi Deployment Example
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@LaDiables 29 күн бұрын

"Noone has this much unifi equipment at home." Sounds like a challenge to me

@DeliberateGeek 29 күн бұрын

LOL...Yeah...hold my beer~

@preacherplays 29 күн бұрын

This was absolutely my first thought. 🤣

@mvp_kryptonite 29 күн бұрын

😂😂

@gingerman5123 29 күн бұрын

Does Christ even know his audience?! lol

@alphex-is 28 күн бұрын

came here to say this exactly! hah!

@tonygerassi1502 29 күн бұрын

I think it missed the ball and should have had 4x SFP+ ports to allow for true redundancy and resiliency. 2 internet links for wan failover. 2 core switch links for an individual link to a pair of aggregation switches. (Each aggregation switch has a link to both UDM Pro Max) Most redundant and resilient setups have 2 of everything. If a core switch dies, the secondary link to the secondary switch takes over. It still has a single point of failure with 1 link cable to 1 switch and if a aggregation switch dies, it still needs manual input to physically move the SFP uplinks from dead switch to active switch

@CrosstalkSolutions 29 күн бұрын

That's a fair point.

@DavidJBradshaw 29 күн бұрын

Yeah would make more sense to have just had six or eight SFP+ ports. Plus maybe a 5gb WAN port with PoE given Ubiquiti make a PoE powered ONT.

@backupaddict1356 29 күн бұрын

Needs a DMZ port really to be a "good" firewall

@darrenorange2982 28 күн бұрын

SE has 2.5Gbe wan port.

@tonygerassi1502 28 күн бұрын

@@darrenorange2982 that’s nice, 2.5 Gb/s port when it can route 5 Gb/s….. makes sense. 2x 10G SFP+ for WAN and 2x 10G SFP+ for LAN with 4x 1G RJ45 for shadow mode, DMZ, console etc would make much more sense.

@tjomha 29 күн бұрын

No PoE ports since an enterprise deployment would have dedicated PoE switches Then they add 2 HDD bays...would an enterprise deployment not use a dedicated NVR?

@davidronan2001 29 күн бұрын

Great video as usual Chris, but I REALLY wish Unifi would allow the Protect videos to be natively backed up to another device (either on site and/or off site) incase of theft or other issues.

@Eihrister 29 күн бұрын

You can record to the UniFi NVR as usual, but enable RTSP and use ffmpeg on any other machine to save recordings. My NAS records from all cameras in 15 minute segments, too. And then shared over Samba, so can view them over a network drive.

@Eihrister 29 күн бұрын

Oh and you can technically backup/export the original recordings on the UDM over SSH as well. Though you need a tool to decrypt/convert them.

@terrellclark 28 күн бұрын

I use a docker container to backup all my footage to my server. It works great.

@IssaFram 23 күн бұрын

@@terrellclarkdetails please

@LSDFunction 29 күн бұрын

So should we be waiting for a UDM enterprise so I can get 25gig sfp

@AvocadoAtrocity 29 күн бұрын

Whatever UniFi is paying you, it isn't enough. The amount of UniFi products I've bought because of this channel.... 😅😅😅😅😅😅

@CrosstalkSolutions 29 күн бұрын

I agree.

@larrypost6217 29 күн бұрын

I second that! I changed everything at my house, everything at my dads house everything at my in-laws house and my brother in laws house and i manage it all, not everything came from this channel but its defiantly be an invaluable tool

@bobmamipoko 29 күн бұрын

Love your username. It made me lol

@juri14111996 29 күн бұрын

@@larrypost6217 the 5gb/s limit with IDS/IPS it the problem. 10gb/s is the normal thing for most isp, one even offers 25gb/s for just 65$.

@karlsenpal 29 күн бұрын

It should have 4 SFP++ for full redundancy with dual connection to switches

@weslogan1572 21 күн бұрын

Not to mention having redundant links between switches as well, where in his diagram you would have 2 x Agg switches, with both UMDP/SE/Maxs connected to both Agg switches, with an interconnection between the Agg switches. There would then been connections from both Agg switches to every subsequent device switch in the structure, so regardless where you had a failure, you still had full communication between the UDMPs and every switch on the network (except the failed device). Admittedlyit would be a headache to setup and get working to that level of redundancy, but once its setup your only fail point is an actual DC outage... which if it was really critical to you, you would then have a secondary (backup) DC site setup the same as well where you do regular config backup restores to whilst running in either a hot or cold DR setup..

@jonr3671 29 күн бұрын

Thank you as always Chris with great information. I may just stay with my old UDM-Pro for now but that dual hard drives would be nice upgrade. :)

@JacksonCampbell 29 күн бұрын

All you need is an NVR.

@mvp_kryptonite 29 күн бұрын

@@JacksonCampbellyup. On offer now too

@draconis112 29 күн бұрын

"No one has this much Unifi gear at home." - Challenge accepted

@CrosstalkSolutions 29 күн бұрын

Love it...

@badtoro 29 күн бұрын

Huh. His large network sample is smaller than my home unifi setup

@myhomeitlab7286 28 күн бұрын

Jus what I was about to say, I guess I'm a no one then 🙂

@RoHo702 29 күн бұрын

I think its important to mention that the 200 UniFi devices and 2000 client devices are numbers just for wifi/network devices. These new UDM's are still Protect limited to about 24 cameras. Any more than that, and you risk running out of processing power to run both at once, let alone Access.

@gabrielpi314 29 күн бұрын

This feels like an odd device. If this is meant for big deployments, why keep the protect support while dropping PoE? Wouldn't those customers just have NVR/NVR Pros for even more redundancy & storage? Similarly 8 GbE ports seems like a waste if you're just going to plug it into a larger switch anyway. Seems like they could drop a lot of the fluff and just make a pure router/controller with dual WAN in, 1 or 2 GbE ports for Shadow mode, 2 SFP+ ports for core switch redundancy and probably have a better device for it. Would love to see a Dream Machine Pro SE 2 with the dual HDD support and some 2.5GbE PoE++ ports for their WiFi 7 gear. Would make a kick-ass future-proofed homelab/small office controller without requiring the NVR and a big pro switch for basic NVR redundancy and faster WiFi support.

@sidxshark 29 күн бұрын

I have the UDM SE and my WAN ethernet (Port 9) is 2.5GbE. I don't think this is new to the Pro Max. Appreciate all the content, was definitely valuable in getting my own Unifi network up and running!

@MichaelBylehn 29 күн бұрын

Excellent video as always. Can't say that I understand why Ubiquiti didn't put 2x 3.5" into the SE when they were going to do it here anyways. Unless they maybe thought it would cannibalize the sales of this device? As for large scale installs, wouldn't they use a dedicated NVR instead? I would actually more understand having PoE than the two HDD. A dedicated NVR you could put almost anywhere on a network. However, laying down RJ45 cables can sometimes be limited. Having access PoE in lots of places is always a nice bonus.

@meherter 29 күн бұрын

Great review schwood

@tcpnetworks 29 күн бұрын

We didn't use the UDM in the last install. With just 10 cameras, it struggled to keep the HD streams stored. The NVR is the best for low cost, but the NVR-Pro smashes it. We've just pushed 37 cameras to it and it's perfect. We do ANPR and gate control too. Two on the site for redundancy... For a large deployment, where the Pro-Max would be used - the UDMs strength is running Internet connections - not recording video....

@magog6852 29 күн бұрын

you are blaming the udm for a hard drive problem lmfao. They run the cameras fine if your drive isn’t bottlenecking

@FatzyRider 28 күн бұрын

Hey chris, another great video. Got a question regarding WAN LINKS. If i have /30 subnet from my provider, do you need to configure both UDM pro max of the sync will just copy and config to the secondary?

@Yehan-xt7cw 29 күн бұрын

Does shadow mode also support load balancing? Particularly if each UDM-pro-max is connected to a different ISP.

@DavidJBradshaw 29 күн бұрын

Wouldn’t it make more sense to have two USW-Aggregation switches? As you have just moved the single point of failure to a device that doesn’t support redundant power.

@CrosstalkSolutions 29 күн бұрын

Yes - you'd want redundancy at every level - it's just an example...don't take it as the rule of law. Or rather, I should say you should be building in as much redundancy as the customer's tolerance allows for - that's going to be different for every customer. Network consulting 101.

@larrypost6217 29 күн бұрын

Right its a balancing act, if you have 5 of them sure you are covered but if you never use them you have wasted money, redundancy in my experience seems to be an afterthought. At least in customers minds. You also need to have things that are mission critical, and then things are luxury. The example you made the UDM is mission critical as none of the other components work without it, having a backup is mission critical. The other switches could be farmed to an old switch laying around if it failed or mission critical areas could be plugged directly into the UDM. It all comes down to cost vs benefit.

@ciaranfarley 29 күн бұрын

@CrosstalkSolutions but ubiquiti doesn't support multi chassis lagg. You can't do 2x agg switches each with a downlink to every switch.

@DavidJBradshaw 29 күн бұрын

@@ciaranfarley it can still to fall over. The second one would only be used if the first one failed, but you still have fall over.

@diceman199 27 күн бұрын

I'm revamping a network at the moment and I'll be having 2 firewalls (Probably Fortigate 600's as i need 10Gb throughput) and those will be connected to 2 of the USW Pro-aggregation switches. Any HA set up can't be having a single point of failure in it as you say.

@AlexandreBedoshvili 29 күн бұрын

Hi, thank you for the great review! Does shadow mode scenario have session pickup functionality? So is the standby unit aware of ongoing sessions on an active unit?

@CrosstalkSolutions 29 күн бұрын

Doesn't appear to have the session table synchronized no.

@VW_Fan 29 күн бұрын

How does the failover work for failures on the LAN? Will it track the port status and automatically fail over?

@Jwlove36 26 күн бұрын

question, what software you used to create the visual of the home network? Great Video!!

@KyleRiley721 28 күн бұрын

Hi Chris, regarding the Flex 10 GbE switch that you are using to split your WAN ISP conmnection, did you have to do any configuration to make this work on the switch itself with VLANS? If so, could you potentially post a guide or perhaps additional instructions on howm to accomplish this? It looks like the Flex 10GbE has a white LED which means its unadopted/unmanaged so I would assume youre using it as a dumb switch as opposed to a managed one? I just got two pro maxes and want to use HA but only have one downstream ISP connection from ATT Fiber for the 5GB internet. Thanks in advance!

@giggadan 29 күн бұрын

Interested to see if shadow mode is working how I’m thinking with the switch being in place before the wan connections. Right now I have my modem connected through the network as you did in your starlink setup but will that also apply to shadow mode now where I can set both udms to do that. Also doing the same with failover lte modem so now I’m thinking of trying both routed through the network to have a super seamless experience.

@markusmaeder1388 29 күн бұрын

Would be interesting, how much performance you could measure with iperf3 single thread just routing between two vlans on the LAN SFP+ port. Performance was way to slow in my setup with UDM PRO. Hope they have fixed that.

@henderstech 29 күн бұрын

I just got my first unifi AP. Using self hosted controller. I love the unifi UI and unifi network selfhosted. Wish it was more affordable but I know you pay for what you get. My next item to get is a unifi switch. I do not have a rack so my options are limited.

@congenio 29 күн бұрын

What good is shadow mode with a setup like the one presented at 9:13? There are still single points of failure, like the USW Aggregation switch to start with. You would need at least two of them. Then, the distribution switches could still fail.

@MicahFunk 29 күн бұрын

With so many service providers offering over 1 GB connection speeds, it's odd that Ubiquiti isn’t keeping pace and giving ports a minimum of 2.5 connections on most of their prosumer equipment. It sucks to consider buying this $6-700 piece of equipment to get the faster throughput.

@jbunselmeyer 29 күн бұрын

How many home users actually would use/need more than 1 gigabit Internet? Seems like a sweet spot to me.

@jada1173 28 күн бұрын

@@jbunselmeyerthis is not a product for a average home user so it should absolutely not have just 1 gb ports

@HaydonRyan 28 күн бұрын

@@jbunselmeyerbut this is where this is a miss. They’re marketing this as large scale deployments, yet the speed and features are closes to a home user. This is really udm pro 2.0 not a higher level device. I expect unifi to run out their udm pro and then discontinue them when they see the low sales of the max.

@jbunselmeyer 28 күн бұрын

@@jada1173 The original comment was about service providers, so I was referring to internet speeds, are you talking LAN speeds?

@jbunselmeyer 28 күн бұрын

@@HaydonRyan The original comment was about service providers, so I was referring to internet speeds, are you talking LAN speeds?

@jackcarr2763 29 күн бұрын

Love, can you do a network diagram showing two aggregation switches

@myhomeitlab7286 28 күн бұрын

How does the IP HA work, does it rely on VRRP or are the interfaces in a shutdown state when the UDM is in passive mode? Jus interested on the IP side of things.

@Johno2518 29 күн бұрын

I also think the Aggregate switches should have failover/HA - if the Aggregate dies then you basically end up in the same position as loosing the UDM. Also, if you are an enterprise customer more than likely you will be using an NVR or NVR-Pro. It would be good if Ubiquiti started adding these features to other suitable devices.

@-tt6837 29 күн бұрын

Chris, do you know what’s the difference in number of cameras setup in the pro max vs pro se ?

@engrpiman 27 күн бұрын

Can you use a unifi switch vlan to split the internet connection? We do this at my office with some Cisco 9300s because of stacking and power stacking one switch can power the other switch if it looses power or fails.

@robtheplod 27 күн бұрын

In shadow mode, does the secondary UDM notify you if it has a failure or is not running correctly?

@jeffbrubaker5228 29 күн бұрын

Great video. I agree with what you said about the lack of POE ports. By the way, who crimped that blue patch cable 🙂

@AvanCade 28 күн бұрын

Can you access the footage recorded on the shadow device when it was primary for a little while and then changes back to shadow mode?

@thomasnederman 29 күн бұрын

Yes I agree 2 SFP+ with link aggregation on each switch I would upgrade. Was disappointed my UDM does not support link aggregation Also I know when using Cisco 6500 equipment we can spread link aggregation between two switches ( working as a team) Wish that feature would exist on UNIFI

@droneforfun5384 11 күн бұрын

Hi can the harddrives for the camerad be backed up to a nas?

@andyfischer3918 26 күн бұрын

Wouldn't you do a fiber loop between all switches and both UDM?

@Monsieur2068 29 күн бұрын

What filesystem do they format the drives to?

@IoTHiwa 29 күн бұрын

Thanks from Kurdistan it is wonderful!

@joshbowers2089 29 күн бұрын

What software do you use for your system diagrams?

@lzcpg 29 күн бұрын

I have the original UDM Pro, including VMs, it manages ~2k machines currently just fine, and the only way I'm upgrading to another Ubiquiti device is if they finally add support for IPv6-only VLANs. (There's also an issue with bonded interfaces reporting as two devices with the same IP, but I've been working with their support team for a couple weeks now to hopefully resolve this).

@jsclayton 29 күн бұрын

I assume the built in switch is still limited by a gig connection to the WAN? “This is for LARGE deployments!” Then why even have it? Make them all SFP+ with a single RJ45 for shadowing.

@MakerRob 28 күн бұрын

Just discovered your channel, and I've thoroughly enjoyed your videos that I've watched. Starlink Gen 3 review, Starlink in motion (major thanks for that), internet down a mine shaft, and now this one. I have twenty-ish years in IT, specializing in Systems & Networks. Excellent content, sir! I'd like to ask a question, though. What is that large rectangular Ubiquiti device mounted to the wall of your left side in the video? I've been trying to identify it but keep failing.

@CrosstalkSolutions 27 күн бұрын

That’s the UniFi Dream Wall.

@MakerRob 24 күн бұрын

@@CrosstalkSolutions Awesome! Thanks!

@brians8664 29 күн бұрын

I think UI dropped the ball on this one. A device meant for that many devices and users should have 2x 25Gb ports and 8x 10Gb SFP+ ports.

@nrees87 29 күн бұрын

Hell, I'd settle for dual 10gbe LAN ports so I can LAG them to the USW-AGGREGATION switches.

@timramich 29 күн бұрын

Why? Can't their switches do routing? No need to have the WAN port be anything faster than 10 gig SFP+. I do, however, wonder why Ubiquiti is so afraid of the QSFP form factor. Their switches are totally pointless and I will not buy them. Way imbalanced between their uplink ports vs. primary ports. No options, like every other vendor has, for something like an all-SFP switch with 24 or 48 ports. Do they think none of their customers run fiber to cameras or access points?

@bdouglas 29 күн бұрын

They keep droppign the ball...for the last 10 years. Looking at you mFi.

@stevenharvey1375 29 күн бұрын

Has the firewall and IDS system come up to speed with something like PFSENSE or is it still lagging behind.

@no1warr1or 28 күн бұрын

@nrees87 on the SE you can do that. I use 1 SFP+ port to go to an Aggregation and the other SFP+ going to a 48 pro poe switch. Using the 2.5Gbe to go to the UCI and port 8 on the built in Gbe switch going to a t-mobile 5G modem

@reflectseantinio 21 күн бұрын

Hello... struggling to find the videos you have with Kevin Houser... I hope you can help me.

@CrosstalkSolutions 21 күн бұрын

I purged out a ton of my old content...those videos were very outdated.

@mwahlert 29 күн бұрын

Would be nice if you could use the pair of drive bays (optionally) for a basic network share instead of for Protect.

@NW12-cq7ws 14 күн бұрын

Hi Chris, since you get Unifi equipment early, do you know if there's a follow-up to the UDM-SE where the ports have PoE (unlike the Pro Max), increased backplane bandwidth, and more CPU power? I used the UDM SE with 60+ users and found the throttling and packet shaping hurt speed and even required reboots and rework of the network configuration. I eventually gave up on throttling and had a very limited set of rules in order to not overburden the CPU.

@specialrequesttech 29 күн бұрын

What's the realistic amount of clients this can handle if I'm running about 6 to 8 switches and about 70 APs?

@recklessthor4 29 күн бұрын

Not for me but great review. I'm looking at the udm se

@norgeek 24 күн бұрын

The Sherwood Edition has served me very well!

@EdOSullivan 6 күн бұрын

Hi Chris, Am I right in saying that if you have a 10Gbps WAN connection, you'd need to have it going into an Aggregation/Pro switch to be able to pass out the SFP+ connections to the 2 UDMs?

@shortygfx 29 күн бұрын

How did you split your one single WAN Internet connection with the switch to make two of them?

@qazwsxzwharp 29 күн бұрын

You plug them both into the switch. Since only the primary or failover needs to connect to your WAN connection at a time you are fine.

@jasonklems8584 28 күн бұрын

my guess is there is a dumb switch between the ISP and the UDM-Pros. But then you re-introduce single point of failure. you are almost better off creating a private vlan for the ISP; assigning that to a few ports of the switches and handling it that way. I think he does that in is "Lakehouse building to building bridge"video

@alldecentnamestaken 29 күн бұрын

Instead of running the drives as RAID 1 is there a way to run it as JBOD to increase total storage capacity?

@chappell997s 24 күн бұрын

How are your two routers sharing a single ISP connection? Are they each pulling a unique public IP? Are they static or DHCP?

@codebunnies 8 күн бұрын

Any improvement in PPPoE performance over the UDM Pro? Currently need to use an Edge Router 4 (which has hardware PPPoE support) as a in-between to handle the PPPoE WAN which then gives the UDM Pro a much more basic connection.

@LITWP 28 күн бұрын

Any word on if this improves PPPoE throughput? Unfortunately some of us are stuck on services that, while Multigigabit, are hampered by the throttled throughput of PPPoE on the /SE.

@torgut76 29 күн бұрын

Hello Pros, does the UDM-Pro-Max have still the issue that all traffic going out of the WAN port is affected by by natting, so that I can not use it with VLANS on the WAN interface behind a third party SD-WAN or even other firewall solution. This would be a real benefit using the device in enterprise environments where networks/devices must be reached from other locations without port forwarding which is useless in enterprise scenarios. Would be nice if you find some time to to at this.

@Se7eNzz 29 күн бұрын

I'm currently running 2 UDM Pros in Shadow mode with 2 ISPs in a fail-over config, would I need a switch inbetween each ISP's modem and each UDM Pro to achieve HA Shadow mode? From what I've gathered, most ISPs in the US handout a single IP so I'm not sure if this would work in a failover config without 2 extra switches and double-NAT which doesn't seem ideal. Does that sound right or am I missing something?

@danielmendezvilarino170 26 күн бұрын

Hi. Do you know if this device will be able to handle 3 WAN connections?. 2 Wans load balancing mode and a third one as failover i.e starlink. Could you advise please?

@navaneethkrishnak 29 күн бұрын

Just a really quick question will multi-wan work with the shadow mode.

@CrosstalkSolutions 29 күн бұрын

Yes absolutely!

@navaneethkrishnak 29 күн бұрын

Perfect, then that feature can't come soon enough.@@CrosstalkSolutions

@tenahmed 20 күн бұрын

Can you tell me whats a program you used to draw the toplogy ?

@brandonreidy6989 28 күн бұрын

Does the backplane have the same limitations?

@jeremymyers5503 29 күн бұрын

When is UniFi Os 4.0 supposed to be released?

@marcel151 28 күн бұрын

Not even in EA yet. Will take some time.

@ejn967 28 күн бұрын

Anyone know if will be able to migrate from a UDM Pro to Pro-Max through a simple backup and restore?

@enkrypt3d 24 күн бұрын

can you show how to do fully meshed LAN infrastructure? Does Unifi support this yet?

@djmylo161 17 күн бұрын

I wonder if the 8 Gigabit Ports have full Gigabit-Speed each this time, or just share 1GB Bandwitch on the Backplane for all Ports like the UDM Pro/SE...

@mikewood8415 28 күн бұрын

For the wan fail over, does it share the single public IP or do both units require different public IPs? Sonicwall can share, but other cloud solutions require separate IPs to keep each device cloud connected. Great video, and blast you, I just looked and fios now offers 5Gb internet... The upgrade battle never ends.. :)

@HunterLaska 29 күн бұрын

One feature I would love to see with Ubiquiti's switch lineup is the ability to stack switches to make one logical switch. I would highly consider Ubiquiti in a medium sized network if they had that!

@jttech44 29 күн бұрын

Good to see they mad a big boy UDM device. It'd be nice if they actually tried to keep up with everyone else on switching though. It took them ages to spin out an aggregation switch worth buying, and, when they did, it more or less was just a switch, because if you want real aggregation, you'd need 25gbps ports instead of 10gbps ports...

@dapersico 15 күн бұрын

@CrosstalkSolutions I would love it if you could make a video on setting up port forwarding/firewall rules to forward traffic to internal servers on a network. I have a multi-IP/single WAN connection but cannot get the rules to work reliably.

@jhawkdude 29 күн бұрын

So what you're saying is this would be great for my home network?

@DruDubay 7 күн бұрын

Your large deployment diagram doesn't show the RPS connected to the two Switches. It also probably should have included a switch to split the WAN connection which will likely be needed. It's a bummer that the 8 port aggregation switch doesn't support RPS, for a single switch that's critical like aggregation that would be huge. In a large deployment it would be worth the cost bump to the 28 port Agg switch just to have RPS.

@lordviator 29 күн бұрын

Interesting. We've never adopted Protect as the cost to replace all our cameras with Ubiquiti cameras would be ridiculous. But if we did..... I would want to be able to split the camera recording between the two drives for faster I/O speeds, rather than have raid functionality .

@maxrunge7599 29 күн бұрын

How does shadow mode work with wan failover?

@usafcabledawg 29 күн бұрын

Will the next one be the Pro Max Ultra Plus Premium? These names are insane.

@Deraco1 29 күн бұрын

I just commented on it, its really dumb actually, kinda childish I think to be honest

@TheCompton2010 26 күн бұрын

Pro max Platinum+

@ciaranfarley 29 күн бұрын

When are they going to add multi chassis lagg so you can have a redundant core

@kenmack 29 күн бұрын

The built in switch doesn’t have 2.5? What?

@RDlinkenhoker 24 күн бұрын

That enterprise set up has some nice HA and redundancy, but the single point of failure at the aggregation switch is an issue.

@global2829 29 күн бұрын

Shadow mode protects against a UDM failing but, at least in the example you showed, you still have single points of failure in the downstream switches. Is a UDM failure more likely than a switch failure?

@ParkerTyler 29 күн бұрын

It's just for demonstration.

@jbunselmeyer 29 күн бұрын

At the enterprise level, which this equipment is designed for, anything core you would have redundant everything, not just the gateway, and that really shouldn't have to be pointed out at every level.

@pearcomputers2542 29 күн бұрын

@@jbunselmeyerProblem is that the UDM-Pro-Max has only a single 2,5 GBit/s WAN Port and two SFP+ Ports. This limits you quite a bit. You could use the 2,5 Gbit/s Port as WAN and then use the two SFP+ Ports to link to your redundant core switches. This hoewer means you're stuck with 2,5 Gbit/s WAN. If you want to use one of the SFP+ Ports as WAN to get more bandwith you only have a single SFP+ Port left to link to your core switch (which isn't enough for a redundant setup). And all this means you'r only getting a single WAN Port and won't be doing redundant internet links from two diffrent providers (or two links to the same provider ...). So the UDM-Pro-MAX appears to only be a little redundancy but not really an enterprise solution with high uptime requirements.

@allandresner 28 күн бұрын

still missing wireguard site to site.. done waiting for it. Moving all my locations to PFSense.

@wickedcoyote271 29 күн бұрын

Im glad to see the failover capability coming. I feel like from a network perspective this still misses the mark. there should be more SFP+ ports, maybe only SFP+, I feel like 1Gb should be dying and minimum should be 2.5 in this day and age. I get the reason given for no POE, but a few would have been nice. Full support for LACP should be a requirement at this level, if they could aggregate across the HA pair that would be getting to the enterprise level. The mirrored drive capability is good to see as is the failover. Is there a way to automate backing up the data since it does not replicate?

@eggchaser 29 күн бұрын

SNMP Support?

@Bob489 28 күн бұрын

Hey Chris! Will you be looking in to the Gateway Max? And perhaps comparing it to the Gateway lite? Are there any differences other the the Max having more ports? Would make for an interesting video! :)

@maryambath7867 22 күн бұрын

So what’s a good gateway for a 10gbps internet connection?

@clayjbnz 24 күн бұрын

I would like to see Unifi make a rackmount version with 16 Ports 8x 2.5GB, 8x 2.5GB POE Fibre Router with integrated Wi-Fi!!

@bothorsen4292 28 күн бұрын

I hope they will add the HA failover mode to the other UDMs, as this is the only thing that I would want from this one. With a 1gbit connection outside and an NVR, I really don't need the features of this. Except that I do want the HA.

@bothorsen4292 28 күн бұрын

Also, it's not clear how to handle the switch that the UDMs connect to. In your setup example, you still have the single point of failure in the AGGR switch. But will it work to have the two UDMs go to separate 10gbit switches? To me it feels very silly that they kept the 8 port switches and not added an extra WAN 10gbit fiber port. OTOH this thing is only rated for 5gbit performance with all security features on, so maybe that's okay. It does annoy me that I have to choose between direct fiber input (I do that now in the office on our UDM Pro) or two LAN 10 gbit lines. I assume these choices were done to keep development cost down, but that just makes this thing look a bit like a frankenswitch (TM).

@bighammer3464 28 күн бұрын

So no poe on the switch but you get redundant hdd bays so that you can dump an enterprise worth of cameras onto it? That doesn’t add up. You’d have a separate nvr for that with enough room to store everything for 3-6 months. I don’t get it

@hanko5750 29 күн бұрын

As Tim would say ... MORE POWER!!! Still I will stay with my UDM-SE from my home LoL!!

@CrosstalkSolutions 29 күн бұрын

You wouldn't need this for home use.

@TheMcIke 29 күн бұрын

Same here... but with it sounding like Shadow Mode will work for UDM-SE, do I get a second SE... hmmm...

@Like0Butter 29 күн бұрын

I would only be interested in this if the drives raid 1 could be used for Unifi talk.

@W9HJBill 23 күн бұрын

I understand that it is for "large deployments", but the simple fact that it doesn't even a single, much less 2, SFP28 or SFP56 or SFP112 ports means it fails in that definition. As others have said below, they really should make a version of this that has either 8 2.5G ports or 8 SFP+ ports and 2 (if 8 ports are SFP+) or 4 SFP+ (if the 8 ports are 2.5G) for WAN/LAN, designed for "Power Home Users".

@andrewenglish3810 29 күн бұрын

This is no enterprise level hardware, the compeition use a separate CPU for their IPS/IDS not affecting their full wire speed.

@iamweave 28 күн бұрын

Ugh, in your test for shadow mode you just moved your single point of failure to the small switch between the gateways and the internet. I'm struggling with this with Meraki firewalls. At one site I have Comcast dedicated ethernet yet their device only allows one port to be active, meaning you have to put in a switch between multiple firewalls and the Comcast equipment. Which is ridiculous because their CABLE business internet routers have FOUR local ports so you can easily put one port to each firewall. I have the same issue with Verizon FIOS coming out of an ONT. Just one local connection so you have to use a switch between the ISP router to the firewall devices.