Introduction to Biblical Theology - Dr. Thomas Schreiner - Lecture 03

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@Mloviral
@Mloviral 6 жыл бұрын
These lectures are a great blessing! Keep them coming! I'm a musician but an aspiring theologian and love the soundness of biblical exposition as presented by Dr. Shreiner. God bless the masters seminary! Shalom from the UK!
@logicaldude3611
@logicaldude3611 2 ай бұрын
I find this all fascinating, as I used to be into systematic theology until I got into academics and studied under a couple phenomenal professors with a focus on the Second Temple Jewish period and very early Christianity/New Testament. That led me more into Biblical theology, or Biblical narrative as a whole... but without forgetting the context in which the books were originally written. There's a lot I like here, a lot I agree with. But so far into the first few lecture videos, it seems like there is an attempt to build an entire Biblical theology off of a tenuous reading of Genesis 3:15. A lot of points being made fall apart if you simply read it as the ancient author wrote it and how it was meant to be understood... serpents are crafty and clever, so it was a serpent that deceived Eve, and now serpents don't stand upright but crawl around on their bellies instead. So they'll still try and get you (striking your heel) but you'll be able to crush their heads... the point is, both are doomed to a life of enmity against each other. This is the first breakdown of God's good creation, where Adam was told to rule over the animals, name them, control them, subdue them. But instead, Adam listened to his wife, who listened to an animal. It's very clear in the text that that is the reference being made. It seems that ripping this quote out of context and using it as the basis of an entire theology is kind of the same thing charismatics and others do with something like 1 Thessalonians 4, which they absolutely butcher the context of as well. Use the 99.9% of unequivocally clear texts to inform your opinion on the 0.1% that perhaps aren't clear. Not the other way around.
@rickperez1336
@rickperez1336 3 ай бұрын
These lectures and digital transcripts are great!
@MSA-uj7cp
@MSA-uj7cp 3 жыл бұрын
Mind blown, thank you.
@danielfernandez2339
@danielfernandez2339 4 ай бұрын
Genesis 12-36
@skipsmominhouston
@skipsmominhouston 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for backing up all your thoughts with Bible verses. You are rightly dividing Gods holy word. thank you .
@jesus_saves_from_hell_
@jesus_saves_from_hell_ 3 жыл бұрын
Grace and peace! ✌😎✌
@DaveTheTurd
@DaveTheTurd Ай бұрын
It seems to me that the dynamics of Genesis 15:5-6 should be interpreted as the identical dynamics in Hebrews 11:11, in reference to Sarah. God made a promise to Sarah, she believed God and imputed righteousness unto God. Similarly, God makes a promise to Abraham in Genesis 15, and Abraham believes God and imputes righteousness unto God. "And he believed in the Lord; and he counted it to him for righteousness." By making it transactional, Paul turned the whole thing on it's head (Romans 4). It puzzles me why we accept that. Nowhere else in the Bible (outside of Paul) is there the idea that righteousness is simply given to someone based on faith.
@fakenews3282
@fakenews3282 4 жыл бұрын
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@Awed1b
@Awed1b 4 жыл бұрын
Dr. Schreiner, You attribute Jer. 34:18-20 to be speaking of the Abrahamic covenant, yet the passage in Jeremiah sounds like a reference to the Mosaic covenant. The people have broken the covenant and God delivers them over to their enemies. What has that got to do with the covenant that God made with Abraham? Please explain why you make that connection with the one covenant and not with the other.
@richardmanning7601
@richardmanning7601 4 жыл бұрын
The Abrahamic Covenant is only unconditional. You pointed out that God was the only one to walk between the calf that was cut in half. The only time that both parties of a covenant would pass between the pieces of animals was when the fulfillment of the covenant was dependent upon both parties keeping commitments. This is very clear in the text that the covenant God made with Abraham was unconditional. It can't be both.
@kitetenjo6538
@kitetenjo6538 4 жыл бұрын
It actually can be both. Abraham must express faithful obedience in order that the promises might be fulfilled. In Genesis 22, God is clear to Abraham, because you have not withheld your son from me, I will surely multiply your offsprings. All covenants have conditional and unconditional aspects, the conditional aspects are brought about through the faithful obedience of the human party.
@richardmanning7601
@richardmanning7601 4 жыл бұрын
@@kitetenjo6538 The Abrahamic Covenant is an unconditional covenant. The actual covenant is found in Genesis 12:1-3. The ceremony recorded in Genesis 15 indicates the unconditional nature of the covenant. When a covenant was dependent upon both parties keeping commitments, then both parties would pass between the pieces of animals. In Genesis 15, God alone moves between the halves of the animals. Abraham was in a deep sleep. God’s solitary action indicates that the covenant is principally His promise. He binds Himself to the covenant. It can't be conditional.
@kitetenjo6538
@kitetenjo6538 4 жыл бұрын
​@@richardmanning7601 I agree, the covenant has both unconditional and conditional aspects. You highlighted the unconditional, and I highlighted the conditional aspects of it. Since covenants are relationships, it makes sense that faithful obedience is expected within the covenant. Abraham, models for us what faithful obedience within a covenant looks like. Faithful obediences lead to the fulfillment of God's promises. This is true in every covenant; those who faithfully obey God receive the promises of God. Ultimately, God is using covenants to bring about the unconditional promise he made to Man, the seed of the woman shall crush the head of the serpent. This is unconditional, and yet it is brought about by the conditional faith and obedience of many saints until Christ fulfills it. The Bible is full of seemingly paradoxes (the sovereignty of God and the freedom of man, the divinity of Christ and his humanity), this is one of them. The Abrahamic covenant is unconditional, and yet conditional upon Abraham's demonstration of faithful obedience.
@richardmanning7601
@richardmanning7601 4 жыл бұрын
@@kitetenjo6538 You are mistaken brother. I think you should go and reread that whole thing. It might seem to have aspects of conditional, but the fact of the matter is it's not both. Abram's demonstration of faithful obedience had nothing to do with God keeping His promise to the descendants of Abram. It wouldn't have mattered if Abram was obedient and faithful or disobedient an unfaithful, God still would have kept His promise. That was the whole point of God putting Abram to sleep and God being the only one to walk between the animal parts. Here is a little read if you care to read that will explain much better than I. Most Bible scholars agree with what I am saying. The Bible is clear on this. exegesisandtheology.com/2017/04/20/abrahamic-covenant-conditional-or-unconditional/
@kitetenjo6538
@kitetenjo6538 4 жыл бұрын
​@@richardmanning7601 I read that article and for the most part I agree with what it said. This is probably a confusion in terminology or emphasis. I see the Abrahamic covenant as both unconditional and conditional. (They are unconditional and conditional in different ways, and each covenant handles the conditional and unconditonal aspects uniquely). The promises of God are always unconditional, hence why I gave the example of the promised seed crushing the head of the serpent. This will come to pass unconditionally by the work of God. However, the means by which God brings about the fulfillment of this promise, is through faith and obedience of the humans he enters covenants with. The ones which bring about the unconditional promises of God must have faith and obedience. They don't have to have perfect faith and obedience, except the promised one (Jesus), but all the one's prior to Jesus must demonstrate faith in order for it to count. Abraham believed God and it was counted to him as righteosuness. In faith, Abraham left his home, to a promised land. The promises of God are unconditional, but they come through conditional acts of faith and obedience. John Piper explains this well in this sermon (only need to read the section of the conditions of the promise): www.desiringgod.org/messages/the-covenant-of-abraham?fbclid=IwAR3dQDA41U4utZssils9_U31BeGX_KJklRqQowtL2vdya446TPjB4rE4epM
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