Investigators discover Michelle Carter sent disturbing texts to Conrad Roy

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ABC News

2 жыл бұрын

It was an unprecedented case that landed Michelle Carter in prison after she used text messages to encourage her then-boyfriend Conrad Roy to kill himself. 20/20 examined the investigation and trial.
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@amiraclexjahara
@amiraclexjahara 2 жыл бұрын
Using Conrad’s death for clout. She’s sickening
@aristakatz
@aristakatz 2 жыл бұрын
I feel as though she did all that to make herself feel better for what happened. Which is even more pathetic for her
@gretapoonberg4043
@gretapoonberg4043 2 жыл бұрын
@@aristakatz if you watch the documentary “I love you, now die”, which is all about the trial and shows a lot of evidence. It’s really clear that her primary motive was to get attention and sympathy from friends
@santanapage5044
@santanapage5044 Жыл бұрын
Yup
@Andrea-bq2pj
@Andrea-bq2pj Жыл бұрын
Clout chaser of the damn century
@stopplying6394
@stopplying6394 Жыл бұрын
@@Andrea-bq2pj «they do anything for clout» offset
@solomcfc82
@solomcfc82 2 жыл бұрын
He got out of the car, and she told him to get back in. That says it all. She is vile, and she can live her adult life but because of her actions, Conrad can't.
@0rangeberri547
@0rangeberri547 2 жыл бұрын
She's a demon simple as that miss me with this narcissist and psychopath and sociopath words there different levels of demons
@cutdogslim
@cutdogslim 2 жыл бұрын
Not her flaut he was weak minded
@0rangeberri547
@0rangeberri547 2 жыл бұрын
@@cutdogslim find some weak-minded person to abused and it's not your fault says everything about your mentality and with that attitude yeah better hope and pray the universe doesn't send somebody stronger than you to help you with your own demise
@amandaevans343
@amandaevans343 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if Conrad would be here today but he’s not here today because she told him to get back in,that to me is murder she should’ve got life in my opinion😡
@Kelly-mi1yz
@Kelly-mi1yz 2 жыл бұрын
Yea but he listened to her anyway.
@princesscherry5217
@princesscherry5217 2 жыл бұрын
The Aunt that said she was angry with Conrad for committing suicide and he’s only a victim after reading the texts….. that’s so unbelievably sad. It gives a little insight to his family situation. He clearly had no support there. People who commit suicide are still victims. Victims of their own mind, trauma and sometimes- life situations.
@MsTinkerbelle87
@MsTinkerbelle87 2 жыл бұрын
Give me a break.
@brittanyturner5148
@brittanyturner5148 2 жыл бұрын
The Aunt was mad at first that is a normal feeling toward a loved one that kill’s themselves. Then after she learns about little twit Michelle Carter she is not mad she is heart broken.
@cheycheyfriend247
@cheycheyfriend247 2 жыл бұрын
@@brittanyturner5148 dude they're right. from what we know about his family he didn't have any support and his father was abusive.
@brittanyturner5148
@brittanyturner5148 2 жыл бұрын
I have had a friend do this and I was angry with him for a little while. Everyone is different I mean it can be normal in some cases. I don’t feel his father was abusive I think he took a swing at dad and dad Swamy back. If I were to hit either of my parents as a kid it would not be something I would soon forget. His parents loved him they did not see how he was feeling he made Michelle promise to not tell anyone. Infact he told her he would hate her if she told anyone. She should have not kept his secret and certainly should have never encouraged him! As a parent there are times my kids are going through something I have no clue how they are feeling until later if they choose to tell me. Kids hide things and that is what CoCo did with his parents.
@Trund27
@Trund27 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this comment, @Princess cherry.
@TomahawkD11
@TomahawkD11 2 жыл бұрын
I feel so bad for his mom. She actually told Michelle that she was glad that Conrad had someone like her in his life.
@abbyr5127
@abbyr5127 Жыл бұрын
when she was the one who pretty much took his life 🙁
@CJ-tx3tm
@CJ-tx3tm 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll never get over how he changed his mind and she coerced him back into it. No matter how many angels tried to save this poor boys life the demon inside Michelle was relentless in its pursuit. RIP Conrad.
@Flower13022
@Flower13022 2 жыл бұрын
She could’ve told him to NOT get back in there but she did the opposite. How sad. She could’ve saved him or even maybe as simply not saying anything that would’ve been enough for him to not get back in the truck.
@woodswal
@woodswal 2 жыл бұрын
@@Flower13022 She didn't want to save him. She would go on to harm and manipulate others if she hadn't got called out. She is just going to try and be careful next time she victimizes someone.
@woodswal
@woodswal 2 жыл бұрын
No angels and demons....just a conscience decision to manipulate and cause pain.
@kamengs5813
@kamengs5813 2 жыл бұрын
There are no such things as angels and demons, ONLY PEOPLE who do the right thing and the wrong thing. Enough with that religious jumbo jumbo!
@freakjob0
@freakjob0 2 жыл бұрын
Shut up about the angels. She didn't kill him. He killed himself. I bet you didn't know he attempted suicide multiple times before they even met, did you?
@TomahawkD11
@TomahawkD11 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I find interesting about this is michelle told him to delete all her texts before he killed himself but he did the exact opposite. He deleted everyone else's texts except Michelle's
@aby9097
@aby9097 2 жыл бұрын
I believe that’s because the mind is not in the right state when you’re suicidal, but it’s also not stupid. He may have made his decision into committing suicide but wasn’t 100% committed, until his GIRLFRIEND convinced him to do it. I feel he had a wow moment where he couldn’t believe his own girlfriend thought he should indeed kill himself. Although he could unfortunately end his life without anyone pressuring him in the moment, he knew how disgusting and evil his girlfriend was for convincing him to pursue it rather than saying don’t; and for that he left those texts so she can be held accountable - it’s as if saying “yeah I don’t want to be here anymore, but that fact my girlfriend does too, yeah I’ll do it, but she should be held accountable” and that drew him more into his suicidal mind where your brain tells you lies “you’re not worthy, do it, you’d do everyone a favor, you’re a nuisance, etc” and unfortunately, he did it.
@monicakelly6273
@monicakelly6273 2 жыл бұрын
I read and watched so much on this case and NEVER knew that. Thank you.
@leolldankology
@leolldankology 2 жыл бұрын
Deleted texts can still be recovered from a phone.
@DeeRio9546
@DeeRio9546 2 жыл бұрын
@@leolldankology obviously but it peaked detectives interest seeing he only had texts from here. They did recover what he deleted but if he had never deleted all those texts besides hers she probably would have gotten away with it
@TomahawkD11
@TomahawkD11 2 жыл бұрын
@@DeeRio9546 I agree.
@sylviatorrez1734
@sylviatorrez1734 2 жыл бұрын
My soul sister committed suicide in 2020... I wish everyday she would have called me. To see this little girl talked someone into killing themselves is beyond comprehensible. Disgusting
@nicoleb4077
@nicoleb4077 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry Sylvia ❤
@Brucelee89896
@Brucelee89896 2 жыл бұрын
do you mind me asking how old was she and have any idea why she could have done it?
@zdelrod829
@zdelrod829 2 жыл бұрын
@@Brucelee89896 I wouldn't suggest you try to get that sort of info, because it could end up doing more harm than good.
@evanacey1414
@evanacey1414 2 жыл бұрын
@@zdelrod829 Sylvia (OP) can speak for herself. If that’s not info she feels like sharing then she won’t share it. She doesn’t need some random person online vetting her questions for her.
@zdelrod829
@zdelrod829 2 жыл бұрын
@@evanacey1414 I was just saying that it might be a sensitive topic for OP, and it's not the best idea to ask for info about it.
@susanyoung1600
@susanyoung1600 2 жыл бұрын
Diabolical. That's the first word out of my mouth in 2015 when I heard of this. She deserved way more time than she got.
@chartroy
@chartroy 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I read hundreds of her texts and they were disturbing to say the least. Even though she is out of jail, I imagine her life will be difficult because of her infamy. Shame on her!!
@amylapratt8964
@amylapratt8964 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I know a lot of people are screaming about free speech but it's not like she sent one message or two supporting the idea that he end his life there's just hundreds of when are you going to do it when are you going to do it when are you going to do it why not today why not today that kind of s*** like a cheerleader just disgusting psychopath
@sandhanitizer15
@sandhanitizer15 2 жыл бұрын
I think that's a pretty damn good word to describe this girl. Absolutely horrendous behavior.
@blues4804
@blues4804 2 жыл бұрын
What did she say on the stand? I dont have hulu
@brookesutton8812
@brookesutton8812 11 ай бұрын
@@blues4804 she didn’t testify
@MM2PuppyDog
@MM2PuppyDog 2 жыл бұрын
It's horrible to hear about kids commiting suicide because of bullying. But to hear about a young man coaxed into it by his girlfriend? Why would she do that? She needs to be in some type of institution!!! Locked away so she can't do this again...
@theonethatmakesyouthink3515
@theonethatmakesyouthink3515 2 жыл бұрын
She’ll probably go into an institution and talk a nurse into killing herself or someone more likely to kill themselves. She needs a home down under.
@bmcgover
@bmcgover 2 жыл бұрын
She was in an institution up until a few weeks before his death. She was discharged by McLean Hospital and sent back into society where she clearly didn’t belong. In turn, this cost Conrad his life. So tragic.
@TischTosh
@TischTosh 2 жыл бұрын
Same thing happened with her and the penal system. This won't be the last time she does something like this unless she gets serious long term psychotherapy. God help her children when she has them if she doesn't get help.
@tiptoe38
@tiptoe38 2 жыл бұрын
The boy was unstable,he was going to do it one day anyway.
@theonethatmakesyouthink3515
@theonethatmakesyouthink3515 2 жыл бұрын
@@tiptoe38 I’m sorry! 🧏‍♂️What the phuq is you peoples problem with human life? Whether one day or no day, he could have gotten help from his family had they known. His gf needs to be charge and you need to follow her also. PLEASE! I don’t want my children to have friends like you,{EVER}
@MamaTthaOG
@MamaTthaOG 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that is so evil. How can such a young person be so cold, callous and uncaring? So sad, poor guy and his family.
@larisa7547
@larisa7547 2 жыл бұрын
Were you never a teenager? Kids are horrible.
@MamaTthaOG
@MamaTthaOG 2 жыл бұрын
@@larisa7547 I sure was and I knew some shitty people, but I don’t remember anyone who would’ve actually wanted someone to die and convinced them to do it, esp when they were wanting to back out and not do it.
@Focused2341
@Focused2341 2 жыл бұрын
What are you talk about? She planned his tournament for him. He’d be proud!
@kaishah7281
@kaishah7281 2 жыл бұрын
All evil people were young once. 🤷🏽‍♀️
@Gambetdz
@Gambetdz 2 жыл бұрын
End of day it’s him he decided to Kill himself she she not be responsible this is retarted
@mikeawesome9212
@mikeawesome9212 2 жыл бұрын
"I can't handle you being gone"....WTF!! She forced him to go. What a complete psychotic.
@tinam761
@tinam761 2 жыл бұрын
EVIL!!! Pure evil … people need to quit looking at a pretty young woman. She is evil. She will do this again. Too much pay off and excitement for her. Power.
@avalonjustin
@avalonjustin 2 жыл бұрын
She told him to do it. She didn't force him to get in the truck.
@makenziebrown3649
@makenziebrown3649 2 жыл бұрын
@@avalonjustin talked him into it those he’s sick
@avalonjustin
@avalonjustin 2 жыл бұрын
@@makenziebrown3649 That's completely right. I just don't get why many people comment on this case saying Michelle forced Conrad to do anything. She didn't point a gun at his head or threaten his family and say "get back in the truck". Like you said, he was sick and suicidal at the time. He very well could have walked away and still be alive if not for Michelle's influence.
@avalonjustin
@avalonjustin 2 жыл бұрын
@@makenziebrown3649 Let me tell you: I've been suicidal many times in my life, and came very close to doing it many times. If I had a Michelle who encouraged me to follow through, I could be dead right now. It was a sick and evil thing she did for sure.
@madjack8893
@madjack8893 2 жыл бұрын
DON’T Fall for this chick. She was covering herself for what she did. Go look and see what she really did to him. She deserves LIFE.
@shy3805
@shy3805 2 жыл бұрын
She is a disgusting person.
@josephzallen1527
@josephzallen1527 2 жыл бұрын
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
@Pinkricaan
@Pinkricaan 2 жыл бұрын
I felt EXACTLY the same way B U T go watch the HBO doc. I couldn't believe it changed my mind
@kaseysewick1691
@kaseysewick1691 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pinkricaan why ? She told him get back in the car and became obsessive,no?
@Pinkricaan
@Pinkricaan 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaseysewick1691 I saw it a while ago so I can't remember the details around it but I implore you to watch the doc... I'm not saying she wasn't an effed up individual at times in this situation but my strong stance on her was softened
@keepingupwithmarsha5155
@keepingupwithmarsha5155 2 жыл бұрын
It’s sad how she was able to get away with this. She should still be locked up today. RIP Conrad
@jazzyj6640
@jazzyj6640 2 жыл бұрын
If she was African, she would have been jailed!
@OJnni
@OJnni 2 жыл бұрын
@@jazzyj6640 and if she was Jamaican?
@Guitarlvr01
@Guitarlvr01 2 жыл бұрын
Speech isn’t a crime.
@keepingupwithmarsha5155
@keepingupwithmarsha5155 2 жыл бұрын
@@Guitarlvr01 Speech isn’t a crime but when he got out of the car she told him to get back in and finish it. She should be held accountable for her actions and not just be able to walk away.
@sammysweetheart8600
@sammysweetheart8600 2 жыл бұрын
@@Guitarlvr01 if she didn't tell him to get back in the truck he would still be alive today.. thats coercion. and she practically begged him to get in that truck. they spoke on the phone for 40 minutes while he was dying, she was probably wanting to make sure the job was done so she stayed on the phone til he was no longer breathing. Bullying is a crime. Threatening someone is a crime. Words can kill
@geraldineekhator5428
@geraldineekhator5428 2 жыл бұрын
It’s her fault for pushing him into suicide. I have no empathy for her.
@josephzallen1527
@josephzallen1527 2 жыл бұрын
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
@someidiot420
@someidiot420 2 жыл бұрын
she was completely deluded, its insane (no pun intended). like she didnt need to send these texts. no one was gonna see them. but i think she built up this lie so much that she began to believe it a little bit. she thought she genuinely loved him.
@shinobione2575
@shinobione2575 2 жыл бұрын
insane
@princelips3980
@princelips3980 2 жыл бұрын
He was suicidal before her. He would've done it eventually even if she wasn't in his life. She isn't to blame. Words can't kill. If you want to blame someone, blame him.
@geraldineekhator5428
@geraldineekhator5428 2 жыл бұрын
@@princelips3980 Well I saw the texting and other evidence during the time that this happened . She is to blame. Dr. Kevorkian was just as guilty for his assistance with suicides. He was not going to commit suicide but she kept pushing him.
@micaela409
@micaela409 2 жыл бұрын
In most circumstances everyone’s first thought is to get this person help and do your best to not let them go through with trying to hurt themselves. Idk what is wrong with her but only psychopaths think like she does!
@solomcfc82
@solomcfc82 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, Conrad reached out to her at the worst moment of his life, the moment he wanted to end it, and she told him to get back in the car! I'm sure his family wish he had reached out to anyone but her.
@Reeeeeee12345
@Reeeeeee12345 2 жыл бұрын
She's a woman, and so ofcourse she's a psychopath. As men, we just expect women to be conceited, narcissistic, and psychopathic. We have known enough women to know, it's extremely rare to find one who isn't. You're more likely to find a 10 million dollar diamond in your dog's crap.
@ckotcher1
@ckotcher1 2 жыл бұрын
@Chime In I feel for your brother. 😞 When you lose the will to live you just want out. please don’t let him know the way you feel or he’ll just want to die more. He probably feels like a burden to you and your family
@robertmitchell8630
@robertmitchell8630 2 жыл бұрын
For all the Brothas heed the advice The Brothas who can resist the white woman is on his way to paradise Minister Louis Farrakhan
@kumashock4074
@kumashock4074 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like it’s sort of munchausen by proxy in that she wanted to feed off the the tragedy and her relationship to him to get attention.
@wandastratmann9500
@wandastratmann9500 2 жыл бұрын
Freedom of speech doesn't give you the right to bully someone into killing themselves Just like Freedom to bear arms doesn't give you the right to use it to murder someone
@wandastratmann9500
@wandastratmann9500 2 жыл бұрын
@Luminary Harris when the intent is death it still is murder
@kellie5476
@kellie5476 2 жыл бұрын
Very well said.
@rg8954
@rg8954 2 жыл бұрын
Mentally and Physically are two different things
@wandastratmann9500
@wandastratmann9500 2 жыл бұрын
@@rg8954 still results in a death it's still murder
@rg8954
@rg8954 2 жыл бұрын
Well not according to the Law. Realistically she wasn't supposed to be charged due to the gray area of Assisting Suicide in that state. The case was catching attention so they went for Manslaughter and it worked.
@Itszahia
@Itszahia 2 жыл бұрын
She seems narcissistic. She did all of this for attention and to get sympathy. I feel so bad for Conrad and his family.
@themagickalmermaid
@themagickalmermaid 2 жыл бұрын
Please See Through Her Manipulation Here. No sympathy for you at all!
@population-_-420
@population-_-420 2 жыл бұрын
But she's a female ....
@summermackay7924
@summermackay7924 2 жыл бұрын
@@population-_-420 does it matter?
@athena7766
@athena7766 2 жыл бұрын
@@summermackay7924 wish it didn’t matter but there are definitely people who have sympathy over her than him just cause she’s female, this is coming from a girl btw
@bluecube7247
@bluecube7247 2 жыл бұрын
People who constantly and secretly threaten suicide to one person in order to keep that individual near, feeling responsible and constantly on call ARE the abusers. Threatening suicide to maintain a relationship is a DEADLY MANIPULATION and the victim is the person guilty into "Saving the other person or letting them die" she was broken, tired and wanted relief from his fake grief. The guy died because she no longer fell for his lies and he was certain she would, every time he demanded it of her.
@supportseoyoungeun5979
@supportseoyoungeun5979 2 жыл бұрын
@@bluecube7247 except it WASNT a lie. If it was, he would still be alive. Obviously their relationship was toxic. But it seems Michelle could be even more manipulative and emotionally abusive as he "was".
@Aud2336
@Aud2336 2 жыл бұрын
Who the hell is SHE to “not LET people live…” the way they want?! Honestly, if she did this to my son, she wouldn’t make it to prison !
@e.b.g7126
@e.b.g7126 2 жыл бұрын
💯💯💯
@tinam761
@tinam761 2 жыл бұрын
Same!!! She is one of the most EVIL criminals we know about.
@princelips3980
@princelips3980 2 жыл бұрын
He is the one who ultimately made the decision after being suicidal for years. Even before he met her. What she did was reprehensible, but ultimately she isn't to blame. This, was his decision after years of feeling this way. No one else's
@Aud2336
@Aud2336 2 жыл бұрын
@@princelips3980 That’s your opinion, but it’s not the truth. He had changed his mind about it & got out of the truck & SHE opened her yap & convinced a (weak-minded, sick) individual to get back in the truck & do it! If she had kept her mouth shut, he would still be alive. BUT FOR HER actions he died. It’s way more than reprehensible …ITS MURDER!
@rubyoro0
@rubyoro0 2 жыл бұрын
Same!
@gentryPR
@gentryPR 2 жыл бұрын
What in the hell is wrong with her!? A literal demon! Preying on that young man 😭😭😭. I wish that boy had a true friend. Who would actually HELP him. Smmfh!! She pushed him to do it!
@paulmackyou9098
@paulmackyou9098 2 жыл бұрын
Technically she did help him.
@gentryPR
@gentryPR 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulmackyou9098 No.
@emziii5258
@emziii5258 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulmackyou9098 hell no, stop.
@PROBLUM79
@PROBLUM79 2 жыл бұрын
This happened very close to my home... Conrad worked at the docks as did i and i probablly ran into him many times while at work... i wish i could have met him and helped him
@population-_-420
@population-_-420 2 жыл бұрын
Liar
@PROBLUM79
@PROBLUM79 2 жыл бұрын
@@population-_-420 Not a liar
@blackwidow8412
@blackwidow8412 2 жыл бұрын
@@PROBLUM79 The whole thing is tragic. I think outward he hid it well, it was a nice sentiment by you.
@ericbogar9665
@ericbogar9665 2 жыл бұрын
So you both sold your body? The docks is where I pick up all my whores.
@mpacino1224
@mpacino1224 Жыл бұрын
@@population-_-420 is one of those people who doesn't understand that people on the Internet actually live in real towns. They actually have neighbors and jobs. Poor kid. So clueless.
@paulinekamau9633
@paulinekamau9633 2 жыл бұрын
Parents empower your kids not to fall into manipulations from peers. Create a strong bond with your kids that you are the only people they trust
@lorraineclark4413
@lorraineclark4413 2 жыл бұрын
Dads- don't beat up your sons. Get over your macho gorilla behavior and get the boy HELP.
@ville666sora
@ville666sora 2 жыл бұрын
Well, Idk that your children should be taught that you are the ONLY person they can trust. That might set them up to have a very poor or nonexistent social/love life.
@N..P..
@N..P.. 2 жыл бұрын
You should never be the only people they trust but rather the people they trust the most.
@user-el3iw6rz3m
@user-el3iw6rz3m 2 жыл бұрын
Poor Conrad got back in. I wonder how alone he must’ve felt in that moment. The one person who he trusted made her feel so alone. So terrible
@MarisaKc-yi3tk
@MarisaKc-yi3tk 8 ай бұрын
Oh…💔
@VicMprado
@VicMprado 2 жыл бұрын
How guilty is her friend too she knew everything and she choose not to say anything
@grangrampa832
@grangrampa832 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@heyjphoto
@heyjphoto 2 жыл бұрын
How in the world is her friend guilty? She didn’t know the details until months after Conrad’s phone had already been in the police’s possession. They already saw that Michelle told him to get back in the car, therefore the text Michelle sent to Samantha only solidified what the cops already knew. Her saying something wouldn’t have changed anything.
@bradmadeira6807
@bradmadeira6807 2 жыл бұрын
@@heyjphoto uuuuummm cuz she DIDNT tell the cops?!?!? that’s called being complicit..
@jgator6694
@jgator6694 2 жыл бұрын
@@heyjphoto it would have helped the cops arrest her sooner and bring this case to justice sooner
@westcoastorbust2462
@westcoastorbust2462 2 жыл бұрын
She found out after the police had already found out. You never know how she responded.
@malpal221
@malpal221 2 жыл бұрын
When the 20/20 episode started and they were showing clips of what was coming up, my immediate reaction was “wtf is Cara Delevingne on trial for???”
@bigmizzymike
@bigmizzymike 2 жыл бұрын
Who? 🤣🤣🤣
@DanieladeLeca
@DanieladeLeca 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigmizzymike the model that got famous for her thick brows.
@YONCE8701
@YONCE8701 2 жыл бұрын
An insult to Cara
@dianabeurman364
@dianabeurman364 2 жыл бұрын
diet! Way
@bigmizzymike
@bigmizzymike 2 жыл бұрын
@@DanieladeLeca I can see the resemblance, like maybe a cousin. Lol Cara is definitely prettier tho.
@athapa01
@athapa01 2 жыл бұрын
The way he died is so disturbing. She definitely killed him.
@Nolanoyayo
@Nolanoyayo 2 жыл бұрын
She didn't kill him. She persuaded him to kill himself. Two very different things.
@Sweetmuffins0018
@Sweetmuffins0018 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nolanoyayo More than persuaded. She hounded him and insisted upon it by finding ways to constantly bring their conversations back to him killing himself. When he was hesitant about it or decided not to do it, she would make him feel like he let her down or disappointed her. She knew that he always mentioned that he felt like he wasn’t good enough and that he let people down and she used that to manipulate him into killing himself. I read all the texts between them that were posted for the public to see and in the beginning I thought to myself “She really is trying to get him help. Maybe she’s not as bad as I thought and how the media is portraying her.” However, then I got to the texts on July 2nd and she was like a completely different person without a soul. She went from telling him repeatedly that he should get help and not to kill himself to encouraging him to do it, taunting him when he couldn’t go through with it, researching it and telling him ways to do it, and pressuring him to do it. So, no she didn’t physically kill him, but “persuaded” is a very light term to use when describing what she did.
@mzbatonrougebeauty5267
@mzbatonrougebeauty5267 2 жыл бұрын
He definitely did it himself ..but she coaxed him to do it
@AB-nk5wv
@AB-nk5wv 2 жыл бұрын
CR manipulated her for weeks and months. Don’t just blindly accept the media’s lazy narrative for ratings. It’s a complicated issue that they have no time to delve into. htv-prod-media.s3.amazonaws.com/files/carter-exhibit-30-1497356322.pdf
@joemcnulty6814
@joemcnulty6814 Жыл бұрын
@@Nolanoyayo she told him to kill himself not persuaded
@lastfewtokes
@lastfewtokes 2 жыл бұрын
Someone in the middle of committing suicide calls their "friend" after they get scared that it works and they force him to finish committing the act. That is the most horrendous thing I've ever heard. She was obviously having a great time knowing he was killing himself.
@bluemeanie9554
@bluemeanie9554 2 жыл бұрын
The worst part is the parents call her to ask if she contacted him and she said no, not only did she talk him into it but she also stopped any other person from finding him to stop him!
@GrowingwithAnastasia
@GrowingwithAnastasia 2 жыл бұрын
She was clearly loving it. She’s sick af
@muse893
@muse893 Жыл бұрын
This is disgasting and sick. 🤮 She is maniac.
@muse893
@muse893 Жыл бұрын
@@bluemeanie9554 yes. She is maniac. She had pleasure . She had got self affermation by breaking him. Poor boy .
@Cali-Girl
@Cali-Girl 2 жыл бұрын
She decided to make someone kill themselves, and fully deserves to be punished.
@robertmitchell8630
@robertmitchell8630 2 жыл бұрын
For all the Brothas heed the advice The Brothas who can resist the white woman is on his way to paradise Minister Louis Farrakhan
@dineonyauza3236
@dineonyauza3236 2 жыл бұрын
He already wanted to himself. She didn’t cause those feelings of defeat.
@teddygravity1912
@teddygravity1912 2 жыл бұрын
That is not a crime
@nickotine343
@nickotine343 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who has an online friend who’s committed suicide, sending them texts despite knowing you’ll never get a reply is actually normal. At least for me
@Quebonitoeslobonito123
@Quebonitoeslobonito123 2 жыл бұрын
I do that too. I only recently stopped because I'm afraid someone may have the number already and that I'm.bothering them. I hope no one does though, because it's very therapeutic. I feel like I'm sending him something, although obviously I'm not. His number is the last form of "contact" I can feel I have with him.
@lorimiller4301
@lorimiller4301 2 жыл бұрын
@@Quebonitoeslobonito123 pardon me but I just want to tell you that there are some very good mediums here on KZfaq that I believe are contacting those who have passed. Kris from Spirit Talk, Judy from Electronic Medium, Sara Saving Spirits, Mandy from Spirit Seeker Squad, Sloan Bella and the Psychic Reverend Donna Seraphina. Donna was the lady who saw what happened to Tylee Ryan and JJ Vallow 5 months before they were found. She saw what happened to them and the evidence was exact. Please reach out to someone who can help you to speak to your friend. Knowing they really exist and are okay is a wonderful relief. I don't think there's anything wrong with you sending messages. I'm sure they'd understand.
@neophantomyt1435
@neophantomyt1435 2 жыл бұрын
Yea it’s different when you talk someone into suicide. And do nothing to help them. Then act like you care and love this person. If she actually cared for him. She would have called the police and got him help.
@nickotine343
@nickotine343 2 жыл бұрын
@@lorimiller4301 stop just stop, don’t use someone else’s grief and pain to advertise something. That’s just selfish, mediums are bullshit.
@ChA0s_AgeNt
@ChA0s_AgeNt 2 жыл бұрын
This. Mediums are con artists, preying on vulnerable people.
@AlphaXiro
@AlphaXiro 2 жыл бұрын
I could related bc this also, the mother of my child try to convince me to take my own life, but I saw right through her damn plan. And now I have move on and am happy I didn't take my own life. And live to see my son.
@user-hi6nm9od2l
@user-hi6nm9od2l 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry that happened to you. You are worth it ❤️ your son is worth it 👌🏻
@lorimiller4301
@lorimiller4301 2 жыл бұрын
It's a demon who whispers such falsehoods. They do it over and over and pass from person to person. The best thing to do is ignore them. Once they realize you're on to them, they'll leave you alone because they can't feed off your emotions anymore. The repetition is the key to knowing what's going on. They never say anything creative or different. Just negative thoughts. Pray, laugh, eat and forget about them is the best medicine.
@joannacardoso1115
@joannacardoso1115 2 жыл бұрын
@@lorimiller4301 this comment just lifted me out of bed. Spread it. Thank you.
@iwillwh00pyoa52
@iwillwh00pyoa52 2 жыл бұрын
SO MANY NARCISSISTIC ABUSIVE WOMEN AND I BLAME FEMINISM FOR IT!
@xXKuroXx100
@xXKuroXx100 2 жыл бұрын
To think... how she encouraged him in his time of need. My friend once contacted me over the phone while attempting suicide when I was a state away. After a minute of research, that told me their method was in fact lethal, all I could do was coax my friend into seeking help and medical attention. I can’t imagine... encouraging them to die. That would’ve never been an option for anybody who has a heart. My friend survived, and although we haven’t kept in touch, I’m grateful that they live their life in peace now. Rest In Peace, Conrad.
@vintagesparkles4289
@vintagesparkles4289 2 жыл бұрын
why didn’t you keep in touch? i’m glad you were there for them
@xXKuroXx100
@xXKuroXx100 2 жыл бұрын
@@vintagesparkles4289 Growing pains of being an adult. 🥲 I was able to watch my friend develop their career and move out of our home state for better opportunities. After that, we simply drifted apart. Thanks for your reply. ♥️
@lesquichez
@lesquichez 2 жыл бұрын
This has to be some form of munchausen by proxy where the victim dies and the perpetrator fully intends on soaking up and milking every bit of empathy and attention from the death of their so-called "loved one" and it should be no less punishable that the person who was found online who convinced a college girl to jump from the bridge (I forgot the case) and though the MO differs, they are still arguably responsible in that had they not done what they did (for power, thrill, attention, disordered socialization etc). If you are outside when someone you know tries to sneak in a house to steal something, and your friend ends up dying "but for" them being there applies to the death and causes murder convictions. How is this different? Arguably more culpable!
@lorraineclark4413
@lorraineclark4413 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Very like MBP.
@sophiahooper9267
@sophiahooper9267 Жыл бұрын
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@mcdjinn6975
@mcdjinn6975 2 жыл бұрын
Did his parents or the school know how depressed he was? Acting like he was just fine was not what he needed; he needed therapy/intervention.
@brittanyturner5148
@brittanyturner5148 2 жыл бұрын
The parents knew but he went to inpatient and they thought he was doing better he was doing all the right things for them to believe he was doing better.
@ericbogar9665
@ericbogar9665 2 жыл бұрын
Therapy doesn't help unless you get rid of the issues. I think it's funny when I go to therapy and they think I'm the fucking problem and not society and if I only conform to what those fucking bullies want I'll be fine in life.
@lookintothelightcarolanne4699
@lookintothelightcarolanne4699 2 жыл бұрын
@@ericbogar9665 don’t you dare conform! You’re doing fine.
@AnhTran-pu7gw
@AnhTran-pu7gw 2 жыл бұрын
his dad and grandfather were abusive. he tried committing suicide at least once before but gave up until michelle carter entered his circle.
@tabora_
@tabora_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@ericbogar9665 maybe you ARE the problem. Not saying your situation is true but if you're finding the same answers from different therapists, maybe you're not accepting the truth.
@dankthegank4315
@dankthegank4315 2 жыл бұрын
Dude if a plug sells someone dope and they’re an idiot and OD. The dealer gets life. This is way worse and she gets a pretty small charge for a body.
@bruha321
@bruha321 2 жыл бұрын
so if I sell someone a car and they end up crashing it and dying that makes me somehow responsible? Ok then! What a sick society we live in.
@naomih2498
@naomih2498 Жыл бұрын
That’s not the same thing. She convinced him back into doing it after he decided not to. That’s like convincing someone who’s been drinking to drive home after they’ve already decided to take an uber. If that person end up in a crash the person who convinced them to drive should be held responsible
@delphvine89
@delphvine89 2 жыл бұрын
She validated his depressive suicidal thoughts. NO ONE should do that! He already have negative thoughts as it is and this chick pushes him to kill himself instead of encouraging him to seek help. Shame on her! She deserves prison time.
@MENACE-km6bd
@MENACE-km6bd 2 жыл бұрын
I had a friend since childhood do the same to me. I would wake up to calls from her saying that she had suicidal thoughts and I would try my best to convince her there's a better way, that life is worth it, while I had my own thoughts. After I had my own attempt and told her about it, she didn't comfort me or ask me why. She quickly told me that she believes there's a place for in the afterlife for people who commit suicide. I realized then that neither of us could help each other. Some people lack sympathy so much it's strange. I have no sympathy for Michelle because I know how easily a suicidal person can be swayed to go through with I when convinced well enough.
@bruha321
@bruha321 2 жыл бұрын
she encouraged help in the beginning. There's only so much a person can do. Once she realized he would always be a weak, she exploited it. No girl would ever want to be with a guy that weak unless she could somehow benefit from it.
@Angela-eg6vh
@Angela-eg6vh 2 жыл бұрын
Love life. Don't destroy it. 😥
@notanothernerdypodcast
@notanothernerdypodcast 2 жыл бұрын
She did all this fake caring for clout and sympathy
@dianemoonstone4715
@dianemoonstone4715 2 жыл бұрын
She's a Malignant Narcissist, craves attention to the Nth Degree.
@jaywholoveseveryone1721
@jaywholoveseveryone1721 2 жыл бұрын
She is the best manipulator ever. These types of people are the scariest of scary people. This is just the beginning of what manipulators do. watch & wait what she does next. She preys on those _weaker_ than her. This is sad...just terribly sad.
@chestnutbrown9340
@chestnutbrown9340 2 жыл бұрын
Jada Pinkett 🤔
@ericbogar9665
@ericbogar9665 2 жыл бұрын
You give people too much credit. Do you think people just sit around trying to prey on people and have a plan?
@islandgirl7304
@islandgirl7304 2 жыл бұрын
That’s what I always say too. Those are the scariest kind of people absolutely!
@jaywholoveseveryone1721
@jaywholoveseveryone1721 2 жыл бұрын
@@ericbogar9665 nah. They don't "sit around" but they know when to leap when 'prey' is in sight. SHE did.
@ericbogar9665
@ericbogar9665 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaywholoveseveryone1721 lol I don't think it always works like that. If people had plans they wouldn't get caught so easily. She wouldn't have been stupid enough to text him or others incriminating her. I don't even think she thought he would do it but it was fucked up. Sometimes fucked up people have no real motive to do something. They just do it.
@candihall1395
@candihall1395 2 жыл бұрын
Teens are extremely impulsive!! What seems like a good idea today will be completely different tomorrow if not within hours. So sad that she didn’t alert his mom or try and get him to stop. Literally ANYTHING other than what she did. I can’t grasp what could have been going through her head??
@morewithmariama7723
@morewithmariama7723 2 жыл бұрын
she wanted attention.
@seversley831
@seversley831 2 жыл бұрын
And I think she was drained by his non stop talking about killing himself, I read the txts, and I'm not sticking up for her but I have empathy. She had major mental issues herself.
@wilddog4143
@wilddog4143 2 жыл бұрын
@@morewithmariama7723 She had an eating disorder so I don't think she was trying to get attention but maybe cope with things she couldn't handle like this relationship and her boyfriends suicidal ideations. Also I think as a teenager and during that time in our lives we think about these things naturally. I had a friend or two that were tortured by their own mind. After they committed suicide I wondered if they were more at peace and it was better for them. It's a sad thing to think about. When you are a teenager things are so intense and seem so important but are really not at all.
@brea87
@brea87 2 жыл бұрын
I think people forget that she was also a teenager and not mentally well. Neither of them were thinking properly.
@jenniferburton7044
@jenniferburton7044 2 жыл бұрын
@@wilddog4143 Couldn’t agree with you more! Michelle Carter has severe mental health issues. She also tried talking Conrad out of suicide for almost 2 years before she told him to go ahead and do it. Ultimately it was his choice to commit suicide. She will NEVER live this down. Everywhere she goes it will follow her. Idk what kind of life she will have now. But it won’t be an easy one. I wish he would’ve gone to his parents. We all do.
@user-el3iw6rz3m
@user-el3iw6rz3m 2 жыл бұрын
There are ppl just like this young lady who thrive off of other ppls struggles. God help us all.
@dickgozenya1542
@dickgozenya1542 2 жыл бұрын
When I was in high school I dated a girl for a short period of time who at one point, on a school night had called me and told me she was going to kill herself. I did everything in my power, to talk her down from it, and even called 911 because i was concerned. She had every opportunity and in my opinion, obligation to help him.
@grateful9672
@grateful9672 2 жыл бұрын
You wanted to get him help, but you pushed him back in the car.
@TheOgrande
@TheOgrande 2 жыл бұрын
I been watching Hulu’s The Girl from Plainville, it’s very interesting to case.
@population-_-420
@population-_-420 2 жыл бұрын
Liar
@papasmamas1
@papasmamas1 2 жыл бұрын
There is a documental about this case, much better than the serie, dont remember the name, I think was "I love you, please", something like that.
@BaddJass
@BaddJass 2 жыл бұрын
@Melanie Hale yes . It gave a much more nuanced look. Its not so black and white. Its really just a very unfortunate situation for both families
@tessalimits8893
@tessalimits8893 2 жыл бұрын
There’s also a song called Michelle Carter by band SKYND.
@NekoYasha156
@NekoYasha156 2 жыл бұрын
the woman is pure evil. My heart goes out to the family.
@brittanyturner5148
@brittanyturner5148 2 жыл бұрын
She will never be a woman, she will never have the mental capacity to be one she is still a twit teenager in my eyes an actual “mean girl” she was trying to get attention.
@jenpizzle1
@jenpizzle1 2 жыл бұрын
My sister committed suicide 2 years ago... if I found out that she was reaching out to someone and that person was pushing her towards suicide rather than getting her help... I think I would loose my mind!! How could you be so heartless?so callous? All for what seems like personal... social gain. She had a good friend... and she pushed him over the edge. Absolutely heartbreaking 💔
@Angel.Tara7
@Angel.Tara7 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry for your loss. Your sister is watching over you I promise ❤️nothing beats sisterly love ❤️🕊
@lorraineclark4413
@lorraineclark4413 2 жыл бұрын
You have my heartfelt condolences. This is more common than people think. Suicidal & mentally ill people get SO much judgement and so little help. On top of that, this family got no real justice for Conrad. Torturing a mentally ill person is pure evil. Even if you're mentally ill yourself.
@anitamwd
@anitamwd 2 жыл бұрын
If she is not guilty, Charles Manson wasn’t t either…
@thegoblinsteed3558
@thegoblinsteed3558 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously. It's so messed up.
@anitamwd
@anitamwd 2 жыл бұрын
@@thegoblinsteed3558 I was just being sarcastic. I think that Charles Manson was definitely guilty as I also think that she is.
@AA-of4kl
@AA-of4kl 2 жыл бұрын
This is case of bullying by a supposedly a friend /girlfriend that lead to this poor Young man taking his life & is intentional case of manslaughter by being the cause of depression & eventual suicide.
@user-el3iw6rz3m
@user-el3iw6rz3m 2 жыл бұрын
Poor Conrad. He could’ve been alive today to speak about his dark times & how he pushed through.
@jeanlucpicard4225
@jeanlucpicard4225 2 жыл бұрын
We heard here in Germany about this case. She forced a unstable soul to so suicide. So often she aks " will you do it today?" "Do it today!" Why didnt she call the parents or the cops?
@tyffaneelavely8087
@tyffaneelavely8087 2 жыл бұрын
bcuz she clesarly wanted him to do it. It's so damn sad.
@jeanlucpicard4225
@jeanlucpicard4225 2 жыл бұрын
@@tyffaneelavely8087 thats so true. How long did she go to jail? 11 months or so? 🤮🤬
@annashlimovich
@annashlimovich 6 ай бұрын
There is no freedom of speech in Germany. Your laws also oblige you to mandatory help. But not here, people are free to walk away when someone is in grave danger - bleeding, drowning, etc. It is not a crime in USA. Hence the controversy.
@lizmills84
@lizmills84 2 жыл бұрын
Regardless of Michelle why is no one having the conversation that his parents did not have him in therapy when he tried to commit suicide before. From that moment he should have getting help from that point on. His parents need to take responsibility for not knowing what was going on with their child and not making sure he had what he needed. Michelle would have no been a factor if they got him the help he really needed.
@princesscherry5217
@princesscherry5217 2 жыл бұрын
This!!! The family is getting off scot free for emotionally neglecting their son.
@KVC90
@KVC90 2 жыл бұрын
💯💯💯
@cynthiatowers1038
@cynthiatowers1038 2 жыл бұрын
It seems like the parents did get him help “Conrad Roy struggled with social anxiety and depression for which he had seen several therapists and counselors, including a cognitive behavioral therapist in the weeks prior to his death.”
@princesscherry5217
@princesscherry5217 2 жыл бұрын
@@cynthiatowers1038 Speaking from personal experience (I’ve been hospitalized for suicidal thoughts, gave myself a black eye)- my guess is Conrad’s parents thought that taking him to see a professional and “several” therapists was enough. This case is a great example of how it’s not. You have to actually help your child at home too. Emotional neglect is so harmful and I don’t hear it talked about as nearly as much as physical or even verbal abuse. My suicidal tendencies come from never being taught how to properly manage my emotions. I was sent to my room every time I was upset. I took my anger out on myself starting at a very young age. Something as simple as my parents not being able to handle me being upset, affects me to this day. I believe this to be the case with Conrad after hearing what the Aunt had to say. In her eyes, Conrad wasn’t a victim until she read Michelle’s texts. I watched this yesterday but I’m pretty sure she also says she was angry with Conrad after he passed. (Please correct me if I’m wrong.) I’m aware that’s the Aunt and not the parents, but I would be surprised if their sentiments weren’t similar. Just my two cents as someone who can heavily empathize with Conrad.
@_Y.Not_
@_Y.Not_ 2 жыл бұрын
He had seen many therapists and counsellors, you make it seem like all people have to do is see a therapist, get some medication and voila no longer suicidal, all better now, it doesn't work like that, do you know how many people in therapy and on medication commit suicide, many, many.
@Ilene-pz8fp
@Ilene-pz8fp 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t we all know that her message about “moaning pain” is clearly a lie? Carbon monoxide poisoning is not painful.
@bigmizzymike
@bigmizzymike 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. You might cough at best.
@Blcastillo74
@Blcastillo74 2 жыл бұрын
He was probably losing consciousness and moaning to stay awake. That’s the sad part that she stayed on the phone and listened. Disgusting.
@lorimiller4301
@lorimiller4301 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it made your eyes pop out.
@juliadia007
@juliadia007 2 жыл бұрын
I think you get really sick to your stomach.
@theresaquickster4214
@theresaquickster4214 2 жыл бұрын
teach your kids to recognize fake friends right away and manipulation,mental abuse by others.
@kaseysewick1691
@kaseysewick1691 2 жыл бұрын
Just started this show last night .. this makes me need to go finish it more now. I remembered this case and seeing it on Hulu last night I needed to start it . The fact it’s still being talked about it good because it needs to be , she shouldn’t forget what she did. Cases of people making them kill themselves / making pacts and backing out breaks my heart because it hits too close to home . Don’t snuff out a light that never got the chance to shine … help change the bulb(circumstances) to help them light up..
@ladydeanna3775
@ladydeanna3775 2 жыл бұрын
You shouldn’t support her. She’s not the victim he is and the audacity of them to make a show about it.
@kaseysewick1691
@kaseysewick1691 2 жыл бұрын
@@ladydeanna3775 I’m not supporting her ? I was specifically against her in what I wrote ?
@lovejunkie6078
@lovejunkie6078 2 жыл бұрын
@@ladydeanna3775 what are u talking about? The Hulu show is no different than this news segment lol. And neither is “supporting” Michelle Carter. And she doesn’t get any $$ from tv show. Your comment doesn’t even make sense.
@jenniferburton7044
@jenniferburton7044 2 жыл бұрын
@@ladydeanna3775 No one is “supporting” her by watching a television show on Hulu
@ladydeanna3775
@ladydeanna3775 2 жыл бұрын
@@jenniferburton7044 do you think she’s not getting a cut of the profits?
@moshu5560
@moshu5560 Жыл бұрын
I can still recall, like it was yesterday, driving by Kmart in Fairhaven, Ma wondering why there was a truck and yellow tape around 6am. Our town was broken to learn what had happened to Conrad! 💔🙏🏻😇 I’m sorry, but justice still hasn’t been served to what this family has endured when it could of all been prevented!
@Yanadew
@Yanadew 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t this is the first time this was done, folks just haven’t been caught! I also mean before cell phones 📱 folks get that call at 2 am from a friend. How many help them thru it and just how many didn’t! I guess we’ll never know!
@The_Quaalude
@The_Quaalude 2 жыл бұрын
*Who are these people!?*
@population-_-420
@population-_-420 2 жыл бұрын
U don't want to know ..
@sarcasticklutz
@sarcasticklutz 2 жыл бұрын
Teenagers where the gf told him to kill himself
@joshuacullen88
@joshuacullen88 2 жыл бұрын
Part 1 was 4 years ago... thanks for the update
@danielkenard3822
@danielkenard3822 2 жыл бұрын
This is disgusting I hope this helps someone from doing anything like this on both sides
@DIGITAL7Media
@DIGITAL7Media 2 жыл бұрын
Charles Manson also didn't kill anyone. But in some scenarios...taking part is almost the same
@lorraineclark4413
@lorraineclark4413 2 жыл бұрын
Yup.
@jamiehenry2814
@jamiehenry2814 2 жыл бұрын
They were both sick. She Most likely has BPD (I do) and he had serious issues and didn't want help. She kept getting help for her eating disorders and she always came out better until he dragged her down. BPD is serious and being alone is terrifying and affects your emotions. She had no real friends and she was needy and the only person that dealt with her was this boy who on and off verbally/emotionally abused her and they dismissed at the beginning for a while, she begged him to get help because it made her feel better and him being this way really affected her and he always freaked out on her and threatened to abandon her. He was the only one that dealt with her and him ditching her could have made her suicidal. She suggested calling his mom and she ultimately just got so tired of him and slowly went from being scared he would do cause when he would scream suicide she would blow up his phone and he would blow her off about it when he finally would answer a long time later and slowly starting he would.. just do it. On his own. I have experienced this with an ex and I eventually just would think to myself "omg just do it then!" Whenever we fought or I would try to break up. I finally did 911 and got a restraining order.. he needed help. Both families here for help for them here and there but as a parent with a mentally ill child, you HAVE to be on TOP of everything while also trying not to be too suffocating. My parents had a locator on my phone, occasionally checked my room, phone logs and computer in my room (my father was a computer engineer so yeah I could never hide anything but didn't need too because I did well) made me take my medicine in front of them and threatened legal measures when i became a legal adult and went through a phase. These families got some help but clearly wanted breaks from dealing with them or flat out were in denial eventually and be like "oh they used to have issues but grew out of it." This all could have been avoided by the parents being more attentive and just getting phone logs at some point and got them psychiatrists and counselors. Let Michelle alone and get help.
@katem.8816
@katem.8816 2 жыл бұрын
Michelle is a little sociopath. They are very good at faking emotions- sincerity, compassion, etc. How else could she have done it? It must be truly awful for her parents. She could pose a danger to them and anyone- RIP Conrad.
@MM-kx9ue
@MM-kx9ue 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible, so sad for Conrad and his family.
@factsoverfear9771
@factsoverfear9771 2 жыл бұрын
Judgments will affect the mind also .
@judeinLA.
@judeinLA. 2 жыл бұрын
The downfall of Gullible Gems
@HipJipC
@HipJipC 2 жыл бұрын
She had the "They Shoot Horses Don't They" mentality. It's a reference to the normal practice of putting injured horses out of their misery. In the movie "They Shoot Horses Don't They", "Gloria feels her life is hopeless and has attempted suicide in the past. During the dance marathon she becomes increasingly depressed - losing the will to live." Basically someone who assists in some way to end the life of someone who is in deep physical and/or psychological suffering, like a "Jack Kevorkian" who was a euthanasia proponent and pathologist, he went to prison for 2nd degree murder. Also "Angel of Mercy", but they're listed as serial killers and are usually doctors or nurses. Euthanasia is legal in few states and very limited in who they deem eligible to end their suffering, usually incurable disease of the body ... but not incurable disease of the mind. That b.s. right there and how people with mental illness are FORCED to undergo even more extended suffering from Big Pharma chemicals and selfish family members who care more about losing their possession than their possession's suffering. And of course, look how much money a lot of people would lose out on as human suffering makes capitalists big bank. Fine lines here, but truth and yeah, it hurts.
@mpacino1224
@mpacino1224 Жыл бұрын
I am all for Euthanasia. The minute I get Cancer I am hooking myself up. But this girl was cruel and wanted attention.
@DwayneIsKing
@DwayneIsKing 2 жыл бұрын
"We have a search warrant for your phone, so we'll be taking it" Dammit I wish I could see her face when the doctor said that 😭
@FWtravels
@FWtravels 2 жыл бұрын
And she was released early from prison for good behavior. She’s now a free woman.
@Blcastillo74
@Blcastillo74 2 жыл бұрын
I hope she is despised where she lives
@SheSingsThat
@SheSingsThat Жыл бұрын
Disgusting failure of the justice system. You can't fix someone this severely mentally ill and since she clearly has no capacity for empathy I won't be surprised when she ends up in prison for something else.
@demeraragold4644
@demeraragold4644 2 жыл бұрын
The friend Sam should be charged too. She a POS too
@bumblebee5059
@bumblebee5059 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely is
@mulan7015
@mulan7015 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly suicide is tricky I don't think anyone should be forced to live and I also think that no one should be convinced to go through it. We should encourage others to continue to fight on.
@litneyloxan
@litneyloxan 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know where I can watch the full version of this?
@liah6952
@liah6952 2 жыл бұрын
The day they met each other is unfortunate chain of events. When two teenagers who suffer from depression and anxiety, develop a relationship it is like a ticking time bomb.
@misheru2701
@misheru2701 2 жыл бұрын
This young mens death doesn’t sit right with me, I’ve cried watching the Hulu serie Such a heartbreaking unnecessary death and the fact that she’s out free makes more unsettling, My heart goes out to he’s family I so wish he would’ve never listened to that girl when she said to him to get back in the car I swear that was the devils work, Rest Peacefully Conrad🌹
@LaMuffin-il7ei
@LaMuffin-il7ei 2 жыл бұрын
What is the name of the series?
@Jasminedabs
@Jasminedabs 2 жыл бұрын
@@LaMuffin-il7ei name pops up around 7.30 in the video on the top left
@marcosjuarez7809
@marcosjuarez7809 2 жыл бұрын
And that's why Elle Fanning has nailed the role as Michelle Carter in the Hulu miniseries The Girl from Plainville.
@sugarush2urhead
@sugarush2urhead Жыл бұрын
Where can I find the documentary and the intevestigation and what are they called? Thanks in advance.
@wrestlingfan2024
@wrestlingfan2024 Жыл бұрын
Please…for those who consider suicide, please please please reach out. There are always resources and help lines available for free. Please remember that if ever you feel like ending it, that you are worth more than anything and people will help you.
@SoapinTrucker
@SoapinTrucker 2 жыл бұрын
The ONLY thing that seals the deal for me is that he got OUT of the vehicle, which indicated he wanted to STOP, even if only for a little while, to calm down, or maybe even abort the suicide, but in any event, he was probably NOT clear headed yet, still messed up from the fumes, and she then "told" him to get back in the car, and so he did, because his mind wasn't clear yet! It's like telling a drunk to jump off that cliff they are joking about jumping from! You get my point, right? If he had not been in the fumes already, and was totally sober, and she told him to do it, to me that would be different, he is still in control, fully.
@ericbogar9665
@ericbogar9665 2 жыл бұрын
LOL I've never been so fucked up I took my own life. Quit blaming chemicals for his mental state. That mother fucker wanted to kill himself and was just looking for a reason and she gave it to him.
@bari2883
@bari2883 2 жыл бұрын
What evil person tells a friend to get back in to end their life. You would stop a stranger from killing themselves.
@teeetekkr3xx
@teeetekkr3xx 10 ай бұрын
Why they talking 2 a minor at school without her parents or attorney present..? That's a violation.
@yuunaamera
@yuunaamera Жыл бұрын
Poor guy just did whatever this evil said 💔 He might be feeling so bad that the girl he loves wants him to die and he literally found no more reason to live 💔 wish he had some self esteem I’m so sorry.. idk what joy this lady found in it by doing it
@kaynash2959
@kaynash2959 2 жыл бұрын
I’m shocked at how drastically her appearance changed at trial
@DicyaninGlass
@DicyaninGlass 2 жыл бұрын
I wish every narcissist & abusive person gets justice in this way when their words & action lead to a person's death or self inflicted harm!!!
@gagank478
@gagank478 2 жыл бұрын
Why would you give someone a TV after this?
@BlackStallionxxx
@BlackStallionxxx 2 жыл бұрын
She did assisted suicide…it use to be a crime to commit suicide. The text messages is the truth and she blatantly convinced him. Like what person in the right state of mind will tell anyone that? She deserves everything that comes towards her.
@melodyjane630
@melodyjane630 2 жыл бұрын
She didn’t assist him
@rheab8543
@rheab8543 2 жыл бұрын
@@melodyjane630 Uh, yes she did
@justicestanford5894
@justicestanford5894 2 жыл бұрын
She was SO consistent about it too! This wasn’t just a “snap from pressure.” She was telling him to do it for days. She wanted this dude dead.
@BlackStallionxxx
@BlackStallionxxx 2 жыл бұрын
@@melodyjane630 uhh she did when she told him to get back in the car, you not watch the entire video?
@foxibot
@foxibot 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus poor kid. He deserved so much better. I wish he could have met a sweet caring girl who would have immediately called his parents and the police. And actually been a real friend and real caring girlfriend. She’s odd looking, has a creepy look to her. Why would she do such a hideous thing? Why wouldn’t she tell him to live! Things can change so quickly. He might have overcome his depressive thoughts around a caring sane person who had his best interests at heart.
@blues4804
@blues4804 2 жыл бұрын
What did she say on the stand? I dont have Hulu
@explorer909
@explorer909 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe her lawyer decided to have the judge decide her guilt/innocence, and I'm surprised her friend Sam didn't get into trouble for not going to the police about her confessions. But getting back to the lawyer, you would think that he would've taken a poll of about 12 people to get their opinions. He would've found that it was mixed, and this should have told him to go for a jury trial. If it was up to me, I would not have found her guilty for the actions taken by another person no matter how influential she may have been. I bet if another poll was taken of Americans, they would find that there's a sizable population who would have been of the opinion, "Hell, if you're that weak of a human being go ahead and take your life. Decrease the surplus population of idiots." THE FACT IS, PEOPLE WHO ATTEMPT SUICIDE USUALLY ARE SUCCESSFUL AT SOME POINT IN THEIR LIFE.
@annashlimovich
@annashlimovich 6 ай бұрын
Completely agree. It is mostly a massive defence defeat. He was an adult, she was not present. Many would find her innocent of the crime even if morally repugnant and disturbed, which they both were. But it is not a crime being immoral.
@miawallace2306
@miawallace2306 2 жыл бұрын
My husband’s best friend/honorary brother of 20 years killed himself a few months ago. No one had any idea he was in such a bad place mentally. Had he picked up the phone and texted my husband at 3am saying anything remotely close to “I’m thinking of ending my life” my and husband and I would be there immediately by his side doing anything in our power to in order to get that gun from his hands. What this girl did is absolutely despicable and inexcusable.
@lorraineclark4413
@lorraineclark4413 2 жыл бұрын
Please understand that mentally ill people feel huge shame & guilt and will lie about their depression to make others feel better, ESPECIALLY those they are closest to. There was nothing you could have done so I hope you are not adding to your grief with regret.
@miawallace2306
@miawallace2306 2 жыл бұрын
@@lorraineclark4413 Oh my gosh. How did you know that? I’m told not to put any of the blame on myself but I do truly feel partially responsible. I kind of caused a distance between my husband and his best friend because he wasn’t always very nice to me despite my best efforts. I still loved him and thought of him as family as he was my husband’s closest friend. I even asked him to officiate our wedding and he happily accepted. But he could just be so temperamental sometimes. Neither of us had any inclination he was struggling. He had just made plans with husband 2 days before he killed himself.
@jennycoyle8204
@jennycoyle8204 2 жыл бұрын
I’m watching the drama series about this on Hulu it’s called the girl from plainville. Such an awful case. Rip Conrad
@ik3871
@ik3871 2 жыл бұрын
Burnt out syndrome from long term care of a depressed individual is very common. Such people often say that they feel lile they want to kill themselves or kill the one theyre caring for because of the amount of suffering theyre exposed to that seems neverending.
@kgraham5820
@kgraham5820 2 жыл бұрын
Uh, so what? You’re taking my phone? With such an alarming tone... like they were taking the air she breaths.
@missydavis6678
@missydavis6678 2 жыл бұрын
Think about those words...I COULDN'T HAVE HIM LIVING LIKE HE WAS....I COULDN'T HAVE HIM LIVING...He TRIED to live. He was vulnerable and she took advantage of it. She should be in jail.
@ShredderTainment
@ShredderTainment 2 жыл бұрын
I sent texts to my Dad after he died...called him several times, emailed him, and sent him messages on FB... But I surely had nothing to do with his death. Hmmmm... Interesting.
@adinalamtez3310
@adinalamtez3310 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously you didn't see the trial she convinced him to get back in the truck when he had second thoughts on committing suicide not to mention hounding him about finally following through with killing himself.
@ShredderTainment
@ShredderTainment 2 жыл бұрын
@@adinalamtez3310 Correct, I made this comment early in this video… A very twisted story it is. Not good at all!
@janetDT1904
@janetDT1904 2 жыл бұрын
My Dad died unexpectedly recently and I still post on his Facebook 💗
@ShredderTainment
@ShredderTainment 2 жыл бұрын
@@janetDT1904 sorry for your loss. It’s soothing to think they will still get the message. Feels like he can hear me anytime I call on him... Sending hugs to you!
@janetDT1904
@janetDT1904 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShredderTainment I'm sorry for your loss too. I am learning that there is NO REMEDY for the loss of a parent. Sending hugs right back. Your comment was like getting a hug and boy, did I need it. Thank you so much xxxx
@juliebryan2549
@juliebryan2549 2 жыл бұрын
I do it twice a year to my daughter and fiance killed themselves Jan 2013 her birthday and the day anniversary of her death. I miss her terrible. I send them no one returns saying not her number. I feel sad and it helps
@SOCOMJOHN
@SOCOMJOHN 2 жыл бұрын
RIP Conrad, Love you Brother.
@jenniferjumao-as9343
@jenniferjumao-as9343 2 жыл бұрын
if i was right i seen this 5 years ago.
@wandastratmann9500
@wandastratmann9500 2 жыл бұрын
It's been 7 years now
@power17
@power17 2 жыл бұрын
2 years in jail that,s nothing if she was poor black girl she will be in jail tell today .
@jenniferburton7044
@jenniferburton7044 2 жыл бұрын
She’s already out. Only served 11 months. If she was black she’d be sitting in prison for life
@Tboogiewitdabun
@Tboogiewitdabun 2 жыл бұрын
1:10 seconds in, my brother has been gone for over a year now, pushing 2. I still send him messages to his phone. he passed from cancer… I just hope for some reply in any way.
@michaelnguyen-mb3qf
@michaelnguyen-mb3qf 2 жыл бұрын
So uhm wats the Hulu show called they talking about?
@issasecretsecret7814
@issasecretsecret7814 2 жыл бұрын
I remember people backing her up saying she cant force a guy to kill themselves. Please understand your brain under depression is COMPLETELY different from a brain that isnt. You are legit chemically imbalance. Serotonin and dopamine levels are extremely low. That alone will make a person extremely vulnerable. THIS is why hotlines and therapy and even a good support system works. They need to hear over and over that life is worth living that this will not last forever. So for her to cohere him and to get him back in is sick asf. Again vulnerability. If I am in my last state of wanting to be here and a person is egging me on to do it it is a high chance I will.
@lorraineclark4413
@lorraineclark4413 2 жыл бұрын
Ther'es no excuse for torturing a mentally ill person. Even if you're mentally ill yourself.
@voyager1145
@voyager1145 2 жыл бұрын
🙏
@andreachristine2419
@andreachristine2419 2 жыл бұрын
I hope for future reference for anyone who is suicidal and is thinking about going through with ending their lives I hope you not only call one person you know and trust, but call suicide hotline after that because look at how missed Conrad is now. He deserved life but she made him feel like there was no turning back. Had he called suicide hotline after talking to her maybe he would be alive today. Please don't listen to anyone who encourages you to take your life. They're are the problem in this world, not you. You deserve life. Things can and will get better don't give up. Look at a picture of yourself as a young child and look at that photo and ask yourself if you would kill that child.
@lorraineclark4413
@lorraineclark4413 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. If you can't talk to those closest to you, reach out farther.
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