Debbie helped overcome thousands of years of Viltrumite facist programming and saved the world by being a great mom. Well done, Debbie.

Mark: Hey dad, what’s for dinner? Nolan: Subway

Never seen anything like that train scene jesus.

its crazy to think about but nolan does care, he just been under his peoples ideas for thousands of years. 20 years on earth and debbie gave him something other viltramites dont have, a family. his job was to weaken and take over but he didnt do that. cant wait for next season and see what they bring in cause the comic series is pretty good and vast.

"Wait, they're reviving him AGAIN?!" lol He is called The Immortal, isn't he?

To understand Omniman, you have to look at how old he looks, and remember what he said about Viltrumite life spans. He is very, very, very old. Likely older than human civilization. And he's been doing what Viltrumite do for all his life. He's been with Debbie for what's relatively a weekend in a lifetime of fifty plus years. That he changed so much is actually pretty crazy, especially considering how Debbie mentions he was completely full of himself on their first date. What he says in this episode isn't only to convince Mark, but also trying to convince himself to go through with it. As shown in the flashback he kind of decided to play house for 80 years until Mark and Debbie died, then he'd start prepping Earth for invasion. Mark developing powers meant that timetable was out the window and he had to do it now. That's why killing the Guardians was so sudden and sloppy. I'm not saying you should like him, but appreciate where he's coming from.

It doesn't matter how many times I watch It, every time I hear Mark saying "You dad. I'd still have you." I break down in tears.

Kat is a pure soul and must be cared for. Your reaction 100/10

Remember episode one, when Mark first got his powers? Nolan's reaction was... "Are you sure? " Mark getting his powers was the signal Nolan was waiting for to begin the take over process. Technically, if Mark never got his powers, then Nolan wouldn't have done anything. Nolan actually believed that Humans weren't compatible because Mark should have had his powers when he was a child. Nolan was ready to just settle down and play Daddy. Mark developing powers was the test which proves Humans are compatible with Viltrumites and therefore... Earth now has value.

Great reaction and analyses. Also worth mention is the first episode when Nolan (Omniman) gets told that Mark has his power. Notice his disappointment, borderline sadness. I think Nolan didn't want Mark to get his powers. I think he wanted to wait until his wife and son died of old age before making his move. I also feel that Nolan deep beneath didn't want to conquer earth after his experiences with Debbie, but the Viltrumite indoctrination forced him to push those feelings away.

Here's some tragic information: The man buying ice cream with his daughter in Chicago, who we then see in the carnage of Invincible's rough landing at 6:56, was Gary, the man Titan spared back in Episode 5, after seeing the picture of him and his daughter in his wallet.

YEESSS I knew you guys were gonna trip out on this finale. Katt couldn't even look during the train scene🤣🤣

The look on Nolan's face when he finally stands up... the agony. The guilt, the shame, watching his son's blood fall off his hands in streams, while coming to terms with the fact that Mark, despite all of his egging on and taunting, never wavered not only in his principles, in his beliefs, and in his spirit, but also unmoving in his LOVE for the man who is doing this to him.... Even if he didn't break free of his Viltrumite beliefs right then and there, he knew he didn't have it in him to finish the job. He needed to be.... somewhere, ANYWHERE, else.

17:49 (spoiler I guess) it’s classified as a death sentence to abandon a conquering planet to viltrum, that’s why allen says he’s never heard of one abandoning a planet before

18:47 remember when Nolan and Debbie went out and a dragon appeared in the distance? Well, there you go...

And it's not even that this episode is bloody, it's BRUTAL. It's brutal to the soul, to see Nolan lash out.

The funny thing about Nolan asking Mark 'Why did you make me do this' is that it IS a totally legitimate question, just not a legitimate one to pose to Mark. He's very much not conquering earth because HE wants to, he's doing it because he's been forced to become an agent of the Viltrum Empire, and the consequences for failing to 'do his duty' are disasterous. He's an abuse victim living in fear. And just like abuse victims living in fear of abusers who are no longer directly present in their lives, he cannot help but try to recreate that relationship in microcosm with his own son. He's asking DOWN the chain of abuse to find out why HE was abused, and the echo back that Mark gives him is that he didn't have to be. That he could have been loved and valued as a person the same way he'd been a father to Mark, but that somehow that bond had become a corruption. The part of him that was a loving father, giving Mark the best upbringing he could, wants to understand why he couldn't be Viltrum's beloved son. It's the kind of realization he never could have reached if he hadn't come to Earth and discovered what these kinds of relationships are SUPPOSED to be. When he's asking Mark about why he was made to do these horrible things, some part of him is really asking the Empire why he was forced to become this weapon of conquest, and recognizing the inherent futility of their imperialistic expansion efforts. He's realizing that the plans of the empire are meaningless because everything the empire is fighting to preserve is in the process of turning to dust and blowing away. He doesn't think the Empire has another 500 years... but his family? His family just might.

Despite not landing a single noteworthy blow, Mark beat his father so bad he ran away crying

That line of “You dad………….I’d still have you.” 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭GODDAMNIT!! And Debra has suffered even MORE than Mark because while Mark lost his father she lost both the love of her life and the father of her child. This is one of the single best superhero shows in TV history. Also Mark is Gohan and his dad Nolan is Frieza/Thanos and the Viltrumite’s are essentially the Kryptonians if General Zod had won his coup and Krypton didn’t blow up and adopted the culture of the Saiyans, they are now the most terrifying alien race in all of comic book history!!!

A very small detail I noticed, Debbie started crying before Nolan said “Yes” she knew it was coming.

Something that I paid more attention to in this episode on second viewing is how more compassionate Cecil is. He's a morally gray character who will always make sacrifices for the greater good but when Debbie is extremely hurt by what she is seeing from Nolan and seeing, Cecil let's out his true more compassionate self

This season could actually be considered the "introduction" to the Invincible world... awesome reaction!

Ah... been waiting for this one. Best episode of the season by far. They took out the whole blood bank out for this.

I decided to pick up the comics after finishing season 1. And honestly, Omni-Man almost killing Mark is probably the tamest moment in the whole series.

Before their first "meeting" Allen pointed out that Mark "shove his mustache" - apparently Viltrumites rock the mustaches 😁 Also did you notice that often psychos, serial killers and villains in general are portrayed by media as weirdos with mustaches?

The reason why this series was so good imo. Is becayse of the first and last ep. A story needs a good beginning and end. And invincibme certainly delivered on that part.

That soul crushing moment when mark abandoned all dignity and self respect and got back together with that trash Amber...

Finally the prologue ended. The real story starts in Season 2, we're all looking forward to it.

you two are looking extra fresh today 👀✨ thank you for this journey, looking forward to the AoT action🔥

Mark only got one hit in, but it was right in the feels.

That Train Sequence was so messed up... I paused for 5 Minutes and had to process that first

Love how Sonny comforts Kat during those scenes 👍🏽

If you remember in episode 1 omni man wasn't happy mark got his powers. He was happy waiting until both his wife and son died before going through with his mission. Another 70 years is nothing to him. Once his son got powers there was no more waiting and he had to move forward.

I cried every time Debbie cried.

Thank you for the series! It seems the empty stomach strat is really doing work! Hype for AoT tho, keep slayin it you guys!

“That’s a lot of blood” the full episode description in one line

Your Emotions the whole Time 🦸🤯

Even tho Nolan did terrible things I can understand him he grew up with viltrumites and that was all he knew but he still loves his son and wife. But mark grew up with humans and that was all he knew and he loves his Mom and Dad.

Really appreciated your energy and passion towards Season 1! The comic was one of my favorites from when I was a kid until its ending, so it fills my heart with warmth to see people loving something that has been a fundamental part of my nerd upbringing! Mark Grayson rules!!!

I can understand the whole pet comment because they only live for so long and humans live around 70-90 years. Compared to humans to viltrumites, that’s just a blink in their lifetime. As much as it hurt Debbie to hear all of it, she deserved to know the truth. And I still don’t like Amber, but I enjoy Cecil.

kat, your smile at the start made my day. so precious ❤️

cecil might be regretting sending darkblood back to hell

The subway scene affected me more than any scene I can think of in last few years. God.

Just a reminder, to prepare you for the future. Nolan is the NICE Viltrumite.

just an incredible story of a terrible dad dealing with his own trauma in all the wrong ways

10:45 when you speak of his redeeming qualities, you instinctively call them “humanity.” He isn’t human. It’s this human centric morality that makes you think species that oppose humanity are evil.

Been waiting for this one :-)

28:00 Gaslighting. Nolan was totally Gaslighting Mark

This season is just the prow of the ship. The stern is amazing, but the deck is good beyond words. Glad you liked it.

When it comes to Marks long life-span, I would love to see a little interaction between he and The Immortal. I bet he would have a little wisdom to offer on that subject.

Also what a great episode, Nolan is a SAVAAAAGE. That was one of the most brutal beatings in ALL of Anime, and definitely the worst Father to a Son holy crap. Can't wait for S2 and beyond. I can't wait to see what Nolan has been up to after he left the planet.. Hmmm....

Love the graphic on Sonny's shirt

I think the terrible things Omni-man said about his wife was him trying to justify and convince himself. I think he truly has changed and cares about his planets duties wont allow it. I cant wait for the next few seasons. Love your guys reaction ❤

Glad to see you made it through the entire season Kat. That subway scene even made me cringe.

Watching Kat blanching, covering her eyes and looking away is half the fun of this episode! Not to take delight in your squeamishness, Kat, but...oh, okay, I _am_ taking delight in your squeamishness. *_But I'm not a bad person!_* :-D

Waiting all week!

You say Captain America would not sacrifice a few for the many but he didn’t mind sacrificing Wakandans for Vision in Infinity War

This is why so many people over the decades love Superman. I'd pay good money to see Supes catch a punch from Omniman, crush it and then gently take him to some sort of intergalactic prison.

Invincible episode 1: Omni man trains his son Invincible episode 8: Omni man TRAINS his son

I actually believe that we have seen everything from the end sequence even if we don't realize it. The dragon for example, I believe is the same one from Noland and Debbies date. Nolan refused to fight him because he was on vacation.

One important thing to understand is that he spend his entire life under the influence of viltramite mentality. Thousands of years (I think) as a warrior for their cause. Then all of a sudden Debbie and mark. His whole reason for being on earth was to weaken them. Look back at mark getting his powers in the first episode. The shock of him finally getting his powers set the point where it wasn’t about he family and it was about the job. And the memory of mark as a child made him remember why he had a family. The short time he was on earth with Debbie and mark changed thousands of years of upbringing. The switch isn’t on a flip of a finger. He’s in the middle of a personal breakdown

"Ah! Feelings!" 👍🤣🤣🤣

Great reaction

hey love your reactions, just out of curiousity, where are you guys from? keep it up :)

Thanks!

11:25 i heard that from varius reactors and it really shows how little they understand a life that last more than ours

"I haven't eaten yet so maybe I WON'T throw up!" Oooh that's a big statement...

08:50 Kat's signature "Fuck you" eye brow, I love it, lol.

Season one is just a drop in the bucket for the Invincible saga!

About the earthquake villain, you should rewatch the scene where he "falls" into lava... or magma.

Amber still had the audacity to compare Mark not telling her he was invincible to his dad lying to him his whole life and beating his ass. I’m sorry I just don’t like her character

I think what Nolan was doing wasn't simply just to teach Mark. I think he was trying to desensitize himself for caring for humans and wasn't just addressing Mark only, but himself. He's been a hero for 20 years and in that (comparatively short) amount of time, that steered away from his original mission.

This episode is a masterpiece

So Debbie and Mark defeated an all-powerfull space nazi with their emotions and honest words 👏

"still have you dad"

"I guess we were both lied to". She compares a lifetime's worth of astronomical lies to a few months of a potentially lifesaving lie. Not only that, but in that statement, she compares Mark to his father, essentially implying that his lie was on the same scale as Nolan's. It's disgusting. ~Arbynflowiter Dude got almost beat up to death by his father for siding with the humans and yet she finds a way to make it about her

Nolan's anger with Mark was because Mark wasn't seeing what he was trying to show him - Therefore, Nolan had to physically subdue him, and he was hurting to have to do it, and this made him Angry (basically the fact that he really loves his son opposing his duty to Vultrim).

Finalllyyyyt

if you know the comics then you know the potential this show has for the long game

They are more like humans when considering , say an Ant. To the viltrumites we are basic forms of life like a cow or ant. We do not treat lesser creatures any better than Omni man treated us.

you WILL be - yoda voice! LOL

if Xena can be redeemed, then so can Omni

I love how the only reason Mark didn't end up like the other Viltrumites is because Debbie was a great mother.

Nobody's commented the meme yet? Episode 1: Nolan trains Mark. Episode 8: Nolan TRAINS Mark.

I love how she is so scared of bloody scene

it sounds really fakked up on face value but the whole "pet" analogy kinda makes sense from his perspective. Tell me honestly that you dont know people who have dogs or cats they love just as much or even more than their own actual family. The difference is that with a pet you go in with the knowledge that you will out live them. Based of what Nolan says Veltrumites live for thousands of years so in a low estimate thats atleast 2000 years. Even if being generous and expecting Debbie to live to 100 thats in a best case scenario 5% of his life span... less than *half* of what a dog would be to a human. Seeing her as a pet, no matter how insulting it may sound, is not really unreasonable from his perspective. It doesnt mean he doesnt love her, doesnt mean he sees her as inferior, just that he knew goiing in that from his point it was temporary. Especially with him being more or less indestructible there is no reasonable scenario where he wouldnt live to see her die. Dont get me wrong, Im not defending Nolan or his actions... he *is* no doubt the villain and his whole mindset is abhorrent... but the pet thing really isnt if you set emotions aside and look at it from an objective standpoint

they did an amazing job with the adaptation exept Amber she is so anoying nothing like the comics, can't waiting for the next seasson

I was trembling watching the entire episode. Anyone else???

The word you were looking for was sympathize

@22:30, conquerors throughout history have infiltrated less developed societies by intermingling. In the end they stay loyal to their empires.

You both seem like really good and kind people. Which is very much commendable! But yeah, after what Omniman's done, there is no such thing as redeeming qualities or redemption. If he saved the entire galaxy, even that wouldn't "make up for" what he has done. Because it's impossible. The notion, that after doing unspeakable horrors - which there is an unimaginable number of, happening all the time, all across the planet - one can just somehow do X amount of good and tip an imaginary scale, is a horrendous concept. And an insanely dangerous one.

26:15 if you feel like 1 robotic soul-less viltrumite is bad wait until you meet the rest of them 😉

Welcome to the Empire.

Nolan: It's time for Earth to join the Viltrum Empire. Also Nolan: I will burn this planet down before I spend another minute living with these animals. Seems to me the Viltrum Empire values strength and durability above all other qualities. What on Earth could possibly measure up to those expectations? Have I missed something fundamental here? Well, it could be worse. At least Nolan doesn't have laservision.

Mark better learn some zero gravity jujitsu or sumthin in season 2

Nolan left because his last ditch effort to convince Mark and most importantly himself that what he was doing was right failed, and his heart won out in the end and was forced to consider everything he'd just done, and he knew he couldn't stay there after what he'd done. He wouldn't be welcome there, and he'd ruined whatever ties he had to his family and friends as well as killing his friends the Guardians for a cause he was now doubting, and now that he'd shown some heart and abandoned his mission he will now be considered a traitor to Viltrum and be hunted down. He basically left to clear his head and keep Viltrum's wrath from Earth once they inevitably found him. He gave them a chance to not get outright destroyed once the Viltrumites came to Earth.

The train sequence wasn't in the books. They created it and came up with it specially just for the show.

Debbie is one of the few trully good characters in the while series.

Did you stop doing Naruto? I feel like the notification hasn't popped in a long time.

And yes, Battle Beast would have made short work of Nolan.