Yes. Definitely informative. I'm so happy with my Ioniq 5, and people like you keep giving me even more reasons to be happy. I live in a southern state (Oklahoma), so never have to change the tires for seasons. I subscribed to your channel for even more informative videos on Ioniq 5. Thanks so much.
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad you found it helpful and appreciate your support.
@Christian_L.2 ай бұрын
Thx. Watching in Germany and i like that u hold it short 😊 i will get my ioniq 5 with small battery in 3 weeks.
@UpperWestEVАй бұрын
You’re welcome. Hope you love your new Ioniq!
@MrZola1234 Жыл бұрын
This is good news. I just boughtvan Ioniq5 and plan to excusively use my free Electricity America account for charging during my 2 year lease. Great that you have effectively seen no degregation of the batery
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
Yes it is! Gives one lots of confidence in the longevity of the E-GMP battery
@michaelcollier8768 Жыл бұрын
Great test. Almost unbelievable result. My son, up here in eastern British Columbia, is picking up his Ioniq 6 tomorrow. Good news for E-GMP users.
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
Yes I was surprised by the results and furthers my confidence in Hyundais eGMP battery tech. I was expecting about a 5% capacity loss which is what I experienced in my Tesla model S.
@michaelcollier8768 Жыл бұрын
@@UpperWestEV People do complain about the E-GMP charging curve but there seems to be some solid science going on here. It will be very interesting to see the composition of the new Ioniq 5N batteries.
@lavapanther6 ай бұрын
Thank you. 2022 Limited here at 21K mi, and glad to see this kind of test.
@UpperWestEV6 ай бұрын
Glad you found it helpful!
@palusisko Жыл бұрын
Ioniq 5 has one of the best NMC battery in the market from SK Innovation (800v, modern Z-folding and pouch kind), and even the older battery from SK being in Kia Niro I, has very low degradation.. Congratulation you have great ev! :-)
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great info, yes, definitely a well thought out car.
@negativedisorder Жыл бұрын
I bought my Ioniq 5 SE in 2022 , already put 34k on it ..For the first year I was doing 215miles on 80% charge ...this year the temperatures dropped ..so less AC and I have changed my workplace so it is mostly city and highway with traffic and boom ...my range skyrocketed to 250miles at 80% of charge and about 317miles at 100% charge. Not sure what the battery degradition I have ..but this car loves more city than highway ..and more traffic than an empty highway.
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
That’s great. Glad you’re getting such a wonderful range. On the Ioniq 5 there is a big difference between the efficiencies, 132mpgE city and 98 mpgE Highway.
@Paulmetatron810 ай бұрын
I just posted something similar and thought it was my imagination until I read your post. Im getting better Kw per mile this summer than last. We will see how winter goes but at 34k miles Im not seeing any problems, just the opposite. There was a software upgrade for RWD. That could have helped.
@Rhaman683 ай бұрын
2022 RWD no software updates, 75 mile trip, 65 mph, cruise control, AC, on Interstate flat and hilly, reported 4.2 miles per kWh. The higher efficiency= close to 50 additional miles. In my experience, 65 mph allows more consistency as to speed (changing speeds is less efficient) on the road. I used AUTO Regen middle level. Thanks.
@Paulmetatron810 ай бұрын
Awesome! On the Freeway, estimate is 256 so right there. City much more. Avg 303. At 34k miles (18 mths), my car seems to actually get better miles per Kw this month than I've experienced before. I didnt expect that. Im very conscious to use regen braking in cold or hot weather since engineering reports say this increases battery life in EVs. Thats in general, not necessarily the Ioniq but physics are physics. Something to do with how the electricity is captured. I am always at 0 on the freeway and I use the paddles religiously in the city.
@UpperWestEV5 ай бұрын
Oh great thank you for sharing the extra information.
@MrGeovio Жыл бұрын
Wow!!! What a great result! I hope I get similar results after 40k miles... (I'm charging so far using only AC charging, so fingers crossed... :) ). Thanks for the informative video! Ioniq 5 is such a joy to drive...
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for the kind words. Glad you found the video helpful, and you’re loving your Ioniq 5, it is been a great family car for us.
@adrianguggisberg3656 Жыл бұрын
DC fast charging hurts batteries far less than anticipated a few years ago. What really hurts NMC LiPo batteries such as those used in Ioniq 5 is charging to 100%.
@nightwing2012 Жыл бұрын
Tnk you for the test and results! the I5 just get better over time.... ^_^
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
You are welcome. Thank you for the kind words.
@Yanquetino4 ай бұрын
Look like the pack is definitely holding up as well as -if not better than- the one in my previous Model 3 after 40K miles. Good to know, as I just bought a 2024 Ioniq 5 Limited and hope to drive it for many years and miles with little degradation.
@UpperWestEV3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing, I was happy with the results.
@user-zq4pb1lm5k23 күн бұрын
My Ioniq5 has 38k miles on it and i get the same range as i did when it was new 3years ago, probably the best car i have ever owned.
@dukea4580 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, I drive the EV6. I charge mostly at home, my daily commute to work is 70 miles one way. Winter charging to 100% gives me about 265 miles. And now we are in warmer weather I get 290+ miles when charging to 100%. I usually set it to 90%. I love the efficiency of this car and I’m encouraged by what you presented in battery degradation. Thank you. By the way I drive on all weather 20” OEM tires. It’s the GT-line awd
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
Wonderful, Glad you are enjoying your EV6 and you found my results encouraging. Thanks for sharing
@davidwolff1400 Жыл бұрын
I have an EV6 AWD model and have had very little complaint about range . It is the "time to re-charge" that makes the difference to worry about distance.....I recharge overnight at home (240vlt) when needed~But Im under 10k miles so over time I can report more.
@mglmouser Жыл бұрын
1% is within the range error due to wind and other conditions. On the road, it's a meaningless number.
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
I understand where you are coming from but.... the efficiency, or rate of consumption, 3.5 mi./ kWh, was the same in both tests, but I was not able to go as many miles. If there had been a difference from wind or temperature the consumption rate would have been different. This was not a difference in efficiency but a difference in capacity.
@ftoole1 Жыл бұрын
@Upper West EV well I wonder if you redid the test what the results would be 1% could be a rounding error. I know on the interstate if I run at 65 I am lucky to get 3 kwh I'd love to average that 3.5 you get.
@MrRaitzi10 ай бұрын
Meaningless number but not meaningless test. This is what people want to see.
@kevincard1727 ай бұрын
Very informatve. Here in Canada. I only use level 2 chargers and some topping up at home with trickle charging. I guess I should try fast charging. Lol
@UpperWestEV5 ай бұрын
Glad you found the video informative, and definitely adventure out and try fast charging!
@robertyu7341 Жыл бұрын
Very impressive, especially using DC fast chargers frequently. I also wonder how often you run the battery below 20%. Supposedly this also can reduce the range of the battery as well.
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for the question, I didn’t usually run the battery below 20% but it would happen a couple times a day while road tripping.
@Dive-Bar-Casanova Жыл бұрын
Owners manual says avoid DC supercharging if possible and exercise the batteries to 100% once a month and normally charging to 80%. I'm confident we'll see 300K miles outta the batteries.
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
Agreed my result boosted my confidence in this battery system quite a bit.
@duffman99 ай бұрын
My ev6 has 55k miles. I have not noticed a drop in range but I don’t have a baseline to work with. I do notice that it is very temperature sensitive for range. I have used an odb and saw the top and bottom buffer reported in car scanner is 2.5% when I got the odb at around 10k and now at 55k
@UpperWestEV5 ай бұрын
I too noticed that the cars rated range was very sensitive to temperature. Thanks for the extra info.
@johncrispin21183 ай бұрын
Thanks pretty good at 70 mph you have nothing to complain about. Another brilliant EV Can’t afford an Ionic so I will make do with my MG4
@UpperWestEV3 ай бұрын
Yes I was pretty happy with this result. We can’t get the MG4 here in the US
@samgoldfish4806 Жыл бұрын
very nice presentation ...no BS or embellishments ...thanks
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks appreciate the feedback, that’s my goal!
@erikruggels9177 Жыл бұрын
Great insight on the e-gmp platform!
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
Thanks I felt the same way, confidence building.
@erikruggels9177 Жыл бұрын
@@UpperWestEV It's such a supremely amazing long distance cruiser, so comfortable!
@gerga3055 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing the test! Nice video.
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome, thanks for the encouraging words.
@munirshafi2647 Жыл бұрын
Amazing result after such high mileage.
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
Yes, I was pleasantly surprised as well
@justaguy62165 ай бұрын
Honestly, a 1% change in the range can just be chalked up to the margin of error. Like a test a few years apart with a sample size of 1, there is no way all variables were exactly the same. If it was 5% or higher then it would be really concerning, because all things considered 40k miles is not that much mileage. Also, I'm really impressed with how accurate the predicted range was, it was within 4 miles, which is really good esp compared to something like a Tesla which can be over 10-12 miles off.
@UpperWestEV3 ай бұрын
Thanks yes, I was very happy with the results. My experience with my first two Teslas was that I saw about a 5% degradation after 30,000 miles which was one of the reasons why I wanted to do this test.
@justaguy62163 ай бұрын
@@UpperWestEV Whatever the Koreans are cooking with their batteries is really working. I'm also looking forward to what BYD can cook up, their blade LFP batteries have really been impressive to me, can't wait for further improvements with that.
@UpperWestEV3 ай бұрын
I read a little article on those blade LFP batteries does sound promising. I really like the LFP battery in my model 3
@justaguy62163 ай бұрын
@@UpperWestEV The Funny thing is all Teslas, except for ones that are manufactured in the USA, use the blade batteries for their LFP model. The USA has an import ban on Chinese batteries.
@dperreno7 күн бұрын
One percent is within the margin of error. Could just be differences in wind direction or even the amount of traffic (drafting effect). Looks to me like no measurable change.
@Lemming1970 Жыл бұрын
Surely it needs a new $20,000 battery by now!!!! and it's burst into flames at least twice.
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
Haha, well time will tell, but so far so good.
@SkaBob Жыл бұрын
EVs aren't even usable yet. You know we all drive 28 hours a day 800 miles to work and back towing a trailer up hill both ways in the snow.
@Paulmetatron810 ай бұрын
Your KZfaq name is Lemming so makes sense lol.
@COSolar6419 Жыл бұрын
If anything I would have expected a bit more battery degradation at 40,000 miles. Most EV batteries seem to see a slight drop in capacity in the first 10,000 miles and level out.
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
I agree, with my Model S, I saw about 5%, so was very pleased / surprised to get this result...
@slee471 Жыл бұрын
Hello- Nice video. I have a GV60. I have less than 2k miles right now. Question. Do you normally charge the car to 100% each time? Do you think I should only have an 80% charge each time? There is a lot of talk on the interest that charging anymore than 80% will degrade the battery over the life of the car? Your thoughts? Thank you.
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for the encouragement! I don’t do a lot of driving when I’m home, so I set my car to charge to only 70% when at home and when on road trips I set it to DC fast charge to 90%. I know Hyundai recommends charging to 100% once a month. I believe it would be fine to charge the car to 80% on a regular basis and if you do charge to 100% be sure to start driving shortly after it reaches full charge, I read this helps reduce wear on the batteries.
@brendykes1202 Жыл бұрын
Very impressive. I’ve lost around 7% in my model Y at 42k miles.
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
Wow, that’s quite surprising, for a modern EV. I had two Model S cars and experienced about 5% at 30,000 miles. I had assumed Tesla had improved battery chemistry to reduce degradation.
@adem-Savs Жыл бұрын
@@UpperWestEV It is Superchargers that destroys a Tesla battery. there is an Uber driver, he is quite good..Cyberlyft or something and he is ina condo and has to use superchargers. His battery didnt last long and got a Reman fitted for $8K.
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
@@adem-Savs I did quite a lot of super charging on both of my Tesla model S cars, because most of my travel is long distance, road trips.
@gandmemoney Жыл бұрын
Do you charge to 100% or 80 and how low do you normally go
@brendykes1202 Жыл бұрын
@@gandmemoney normally 80%, low about 30%. But…I had a Turo renter let it sit at 100% for several hours and once I messed up and accidentally had it at 100% for some hours while I was sleeping. I have done over 20k miles of road trips and lots of supercharging.
@tanamorgan303910 ай бұрын
Thank you! What’s your take on limiting your battery charge to only 80%. Some people think this helps the battery to last longer.
@amperformance79987 ай бұрын
It is a pretty well established practice for NMC batteries and is recommended by the manufacturer (at least in the case of my Kia EV6). The idea is not that you should NEVER exceed 80%, but that for normal driving conditions you should limit charge to reduce degradation. Charging to 100% is recommended about once a month to balance the battery cells, and is acceptable for a longer trip. However there is another 80% rule, and it has to do with minimising charging time. Basically, when on a fast charger, your charging rate will start to slow significantly as the battery gets above 80% or so, and will slow more as you get closer to 100%. Therefore it is often faster in terms of total time to stop fast charging at 80-90% and plan your next charging stop a little earlier. It is both easier on the battery and keeps you in a range that allows you to take advantage of the I5's super-fast charging capability.
@UpperWestEV5 ай бұрын
When I was home, I would always set the battery charge level to 70 or 80% but while on road trips would set it to 95% sometimes even 100 if I really needed the extra range and even after 40,000 miles I saw very little battery degradation.
@socalsp3 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see it holds up well. How often do you dcfc?
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
Yes, it is! When I’m on my road trips, I usually charge about 4 to 6 DC fast charges a day. My road trips are usually 4000 - 8000 miles at a time.
@francisdebriey36098 ай бұрын
The batteries of the ioniq5 are from SK innovation which is known to build batteries with very low degradation. My ioniq5 has done 40000 miles in 2 years, recharged mostly using 350kW fast charging on ionity superchargers here in Europe. And I didn't any significant battery degradation. At 2% you can still drive for 15 miles easily. You have 7 miles left when it's at 0% !
@UpperWestEV5 ай бұрын
Definitely good battery chemistry. thanks for sharing this information.
@bassistdc Жыл бұрын
Most of my 2021 VW ID.4 charging is level one. I have 35000 miles now.
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
Wow, that’s impressive
@SkaBob Жыл бұрын
I plugged ours in at 14k miles and it reported the battery was at 100% health, we are near 20k now and I will check it again soon. Looks like I should be around 99.5% health, but I do only L2 charging at home and work.
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
Wonderful, it seems like these are really well designed batteries!
@tzwc3571 Жыл бұрын
11 months 15k all dc fast charge to 100% range varies w temp 220-280 awd
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
That is great! gives one a lot of confidence in the E-gmp battery.
@flipiiiboi Жыл бұрын
do you have the frequency of fast charges that you have completed? an average per month would help me in determining as we only have the 2 years free EA and i want to take advantage of that until we get solar.
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
Well, according to Electrify America, I’ve charged almost 190 times in over a year of ownership, that works out to about 14 fast charges a month. My charging always took place on longer road trips where I would do 5 to 7000 miles in a two week period. Sometimes DC fast charging six times a day. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qtB9iZen2duYYHk.html
@flipiiiboi Жыл бұрын
@@UpperWestEV WOW! Thanks for the update! Roughly 14x per month would have saved me some serious $ on my elec bill!!
@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great video and hello from France. Having owned a Kia e-Niro since March 2019 I can attest to how good the Hyundai/Kia EVs are. We are now on 80,000 km and have just done a 1,750 km round trip to see family near Zurich, Switzerland. I have some videos of that on my channel 'Kia e-Niro Diaries Encore'. Our average winter/summer efficiency is 14.1 kWh/100 km..so about 4.4 miles/kWh but on a long haul at >100 km/h on autoroute this drops to just under 4 in summer and 3.5 in winter. Most of my charging is at home so only use DC rapids on long hauls to UK, Switzerland and around France. No discernible loss of range as yet and of course the e-Niro uses the old 400v system not E-GMP. Is the Ioniq 5 a long termer for you? We're retired so our e-Niro certainly is.
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
Hello and thank you for reaching out. I will look up your videos. I have loved the ioniq 5, it’s been a great car but I don’t think we will keep it long term. We recently bought a Tesla model 3, in order to be able to use the Supercharger network. Non-tesla charging still has a lot of development to undergo in the United States.
@curseknight5 Жыл бұрын
Hello! Have you developed any rattles in the car over your ownership? And has the rear windshield been an annoyance without PNW weather?
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
Hello thanks for the question, I wouldn't say I developed a rattle, rather I think it's been there since I bought the car new. There is a rattle or squeak on the front doors, where the plastic interior piece touches the metal window frame. On the driver door it is right behind my ear and when i push on the top of the plastic door panel the noise goes away. Annoying and made worse when playing thumping music. The lack of a rear wiper really has not bothered me so much, I can see just enough. I also tinted the rear window really dark so that reduced visibility, I use my side mirrors more.
@kiwan5425 Жыл бұрын
@Upper West EV maybe try silicone lubricant?!
@misaelramos839 ай бұрын
And you typically use a 350 if you can help it?
@UpperWestEV5 ай бұрын
Yes, it was my preference, but didn’t matter when the battery was cold as I could not achieve the higher charging speeds
@AndyM... Жыл бұрын
Hello from Australia ! Thanks also for doing this test, although I only have 1000km on my EV6 and will only be Level 1 AC charging, I feel confident about the battery longevity now. How far percent wise did you usually charge via DCFC ?
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
Hello, you’re quite welcome, I kept the charge level set to 90% for DC fast charging.
@MAGApepe Жыл бұрын
try not to use level 1 chargers,,, its like only 70% efficient due to battery care using some of the power,,, use a 240 v , 40 amp charger which is over 90 % efficient
@AndyM... Жыл бұрын
@@MAGApepe Thanks for the comment MAGA, I agree, but us off-gridders sometimes don't have access to sustained high currents. So am happy with 16A@240V (approx 3.6 kW) 😀👍
@MAGApepe Жыл бұрын
@@AndyM... well thats sort of a level 1..5 :))
@AndyM... Жыл бұрын
@@MAGApepe LOL, it get's the job done, that's the main thing ! 😆
@jeff78383 ай бұрын
We are at 18000 miles and we went from having a 303 range w/ our 2023 rear drive SEL to having a 241 100% charge car. Its pretty upsetting.
@UpperWestEV3 ай бұрын
That’s interesting. What I noticed with the Ioniq 5 over the 44,000 miles I drove it, was that the rated range on a full charge was very susceptible to the efficiency you got in the last few drives. so for example, if you do a long drive up a mountain pass, and then a full charge, You might notice a significant range drop. Not positive that is what you were experiencing but it’s a possibility
@jeff78383 ай бұрын
@UpperWestEV after reaching out to the ionic forums, they said don't trust the onboard system as a measure. The system predicts a range based on usual driving. My wife drives 100 miles a day at mostly 75 mph. A huge relief.
@UpperWestEV3 ай бұрын
Oh great nothing to worry about then, glad you got an answer. I don’t like how the auto industry and the EPA calculate range. The typical driver does not drive 50% highway and 50% city in one day.
@ericprado6325 Жыл бұрын
What trim is your Ioniq 5? I have a 22 Standard Range RWD and most I've gotten in one trip was 250miles.
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
I have the 2022 RWD SE with the 77.4 kW battery pack.
@negativedisorder Жыл бұрын
250 that was the highway range I was getting on my SE last year ...this year with less AC and new route to workplace with way more traffic on it I am getting absolutely crazy results. My average is now 3.9 with a lot of routes being even around 4.3 ....this year I am getting over 250 but on a 80% charge....my conclusion is ...this car loves City and loves Traffic ...the more empty the highway ..the less range I get.
@Paulmetatron810 ай бұрын
250 is pretty good for standard.
@ericluebehusen87648 ай бұрын
Question: What Regen setting did you use during your test? I will set Regen to 0 on open highways but click it on either 1 or Auto as conditions warrant. Thx.
@UpperWestEV5 ай бұрын
Hey, thanks for your question. I always used the default regeneration because I had read an article that stated Hyundai had configured what was the most efficient and set that as default.
@chrisnewman7281 Жыл бұрын
One percent degradation over 40,000 miles means that you’ll have a degradation of 10% after 400,000 miles seriously ice vehicles probably are designed to last for a lot less than that
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
Totally, one major auto manufacturer got called out for failing transmissions after 50,000 miles, just after warranty
@chrisnewman7281 Жыл бұрын
@@UpperWestEV battery degradation is in a whole class separate to an ice car. The engine or transmission in a ice car may need to be replaced after a few hundred thousand miles, most people don’t do regular changes of oil etc. In the case of battery degradation with an EV range diminishes slightly which isn’t a big deal account is perfectly fine it’s a it’s a case of false equivalency.
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
Some poorly designed EVs batteries have seen significant range degradation. As with ICE cars the Initial design and build quality has a huge impact on whether or not some thing lasts over time and use.
@chrisnewman7281 Жыл бұрын
@@UpperWestEV so you’re not talking just about the Nissan leaf?
@Paulmetatron810 ай бұрын
there is probably an accelerating degragation but at 34k miles I feel like the car is actually better now. Kinda weird but someone else in this chat confirmed they had the same experience. Last winter was a disaster as the software wasnt up to date for the RWD. As a result it charged very very slow. But so far this year has been amazing in all ways. Crossing my fingers for winter lol.
@Fighter4StreetАй бұрын
When you fast DC charge, what percent do you normally charge your Ioniq 5 to?
@UpperWestEVАй бұрын
Usually 80% sometimes 90
@be236 Жыл бұрын
If you had driven around 60mph or mixed city and highway driving, do you think you can match its EPA range of roughly 303 miles?
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
Yes, I think so. The car is very efficient at city traffic speeds. The 303 is based on 50% city 50% highway but I wonder if you drove for 100 miles in town would you have enough left in the batteries to do 200 miles on the highway?
@Paulmetatron810 ай бұрын
The range is accurate BUT the one thing people dont understand w EV is wind and cold. This happens w Gas as well but we just find a station and fill up. With EV you become painfully aware of wind. I've drafted a few Semi trucks over time. At 34k miles now but trips to Seattle from Spokane can be brutal bcs of wind. But I suspect that can happen anywhere in the country. Single biggest factor in white knuckle EV driving for me.
@apollo2303 Жыл бұрын
Difference between new and 40.000 miles is to close too call. A little difference in circumstances could already make that difference. So, great batterypack!
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
Totally I was really happy with it my result after putting a lot of miles on the car. I owned a 2015 and 2017 model S and both of those cars experienced 5% degradation after 30,000 miles which was quite common for those cars. electrek.co/2015/05/08/tesla-model-s-battery-degradation-shown-to-level-off-at-5-after-30000-miles/ I was expecting the same with My Hyundai, am pleasantly surprised.
@howardscho3809 Жыл бұрын
Not sure if this really tells us anything as the temperature and wind could be the entire loss or they may be covering up a lot of loss. Without this information have no idea what the results are telling us.
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
I understand where you are coming from but.... the efficiency, or rate of consumption, 3.5 mi./ kWh, was the same in both tests, but I was not able to go as many miles. If there had been a difference from wind or temperature the consumption rate would have been different. This was not a difference in efficiency but a difference in capacity.
@howardschoenberger3526 Жыл бұрын
@@UpperWestEV While I don't totally disagree, I don't think you have enough accuracy from the measurement of 3.5 miles/ kwh to make the claim. You would need a car scanner app to get that, as the car does not report enough significant figures. 250 miles at 3.54 kwh per mile would be 70.6214 kwh while at 3.46 miles per kwh it would have been 72.254 kwh. Both of those measurements from the car display would have been shown as 3.5 miles per kwh yet there is a difference 1.633 kwh between the two. That alone at roughly 3.5 miles per kwh could represent 5.7 miles difference. I also though you mentioned something about winter tires, which could also have impacted the first test. I am not saying what you are measuring is wrong, but I don't think it is accurate enough to draw any conclusions. The other factor is how much if energy was used in either test by the car heating or cooling the battery pack of the car itself.
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
@@howardschoenberger3526 I have done 3 range test videos the middle or 2nd test was with lighter weight 18 inch wheels and all weather snow tires from Nokian. that was what I was referring to. I achieved 3.2 mi./ kWh for that range test.
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
@@howardschoenberger3526 My main take away from this test is, that if there was battery degradation it should be much more noticeable than 1% difference between near identical efficiencies achieved on these 2 range tests. I owned a 2015 Model S and a 2017 Model S and both of those cars experienced 5% degradation after 30,000 miles which was quite common for those cars. electrek.co/2015/05/08/tesla-model-s-battery-degradation-shown-to-level-off-at-5-after-30000-miles/ I was expecting the same with My Hyundai, am pleasantly surprised.
@bdk323 Жыл бұрын
I keep hearing about this 40k mile coolant change? Some say it just needs to be tested some say no it needs changed with quotes up to $1200 for the service. What was your experience with this?
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your question, I have not heard anything about this, that seems really pricey for replacing just the fluid! I had a general service done at 40,000 miles and dealer did not recommend this. I would think the testing would be fine I never had to replace fluid in the 2 Model S cars I had. I drove each to over 70k miles.
@bdk323 Жыл бұрын
@@UpperWestEV I just pulled up the owners manual in section 9-9 it says Low conductivity fluid - Replace every 35k miles or 36 months this is what I'm referencing.
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
@@bdk323 Interesting, I’m surprised the dealer/service representative did not recommend having this done.
@bdk323 Жыл бұрын
@@UpperWestEV This is my slight hold up. Most people haven't driven their ioniq5 that much and I'm hearing multiple different stories from oh you just need to test it to 8 to 1200 for replacement. I really like the I5 and want to be prepared for this if its truly an item that needs to be addressed.
@user-nf7br8yi6m Жыл бұрын
Meaningless unless you consider both top and bottom buffers in the battery. Has there size changed? Yes the manufacturer does this.
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
Definitely a possibility, could the battery be buffer be a percentage and instead of a set kilowatt hour?
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
I understand where you are coming from but... My main take away from this test is, that if there was battery degradation it should be much more noticeable than 1% difference between near identical efficiencies achieved on these 2 range tests. I owned a 2015 Model S and a 2017 Model S and both of those cars experienced 5% degradation after 30,000 miles which was quite common for those cars. electrek.co/2015/05/08/tesla-model-s-battery-degradation-shown-to-level-off-at-5-after-30000-miles/ I was expecting the same with My Hyundai, am pleasantly surprised.
@MAGApepe Жыл бұрын
nice :))
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
Yes, a happy result
@peaceofficer01 Жыл бұрын
I've been dc fast charging on electrify america only. My mileage after 14 months is 47k. Past few weeks I've noticed severe battery degradation. For example, I charge to 81% and dashboard says I'm good for 200 miles. Its parked for 8 hours while I'm at work, weather is about 70 degrees. Before driving home, dashboard says 183 miles @ 74% - a 7% decline just parked for 8 hours? Then I drive 63 miles home, now dashboard shows good for 70 miles @ 32%. I was going about 70 miles/hr on the highway. Holy crap! A 42% drop for driving 63 miles. Isn't that like 1.5 mi/kwh? But dashboard shows that drive being 2.7 mi/kwh. The numbers are so off.
@peaceofficer01 Жыл бұрын
Woah. Sitting in the car watching youtube for 25 minutes, no AC on. The dashboard shows good for 57 miles @ 27%. It just dropped 5% while parked, doing nothing for 25 minutes.
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
Wow this all sounds very unusual, I did not ever experience anything like that! Is this a recent development?
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
Could the battery be trying to cool itself while experiencing extreme temperatures?
@Paulmetatron810 ай бұрын
couple things happen with this. First, your situation seems concerning. Second, if you drove the freeway, the Kw per mile will be less and through off the anticipated range. If should correct if there isnt something really wrong. But again, your post suggest a visit to your Hyundai dealer.
@peaceofficer0110 ай бұрын
@Paulmetatron8 Yes, I took it back to the dealer twice. The first time, they worked on it for a week, saying sonething was wrong with "vcms". I had the same issue again, the day after they returned it to me. So I brought it back to the dealer again. They then worked on it for almost two weeks, which included their campaign (recall) for faulty "ICCU". Things got back to normal after that.
@adem-Savs Жыл бұрын
Yup fast charging kills a battery. Tesla's are bad for that as well with Superchargers. But luckily Tesla can sell a reman battery for $8K.
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
I’m surprised at how well the Hyundai EGMP battery has held up to all the DC fast charging I have done with it in the last 40,000 miles.
@kiwan5425 Жыл бұрын
SK, LG, and Samsung batteries are the best 👌
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
These are all Korean companies, correct?
@bigdi77 Жыл бұрын
How often you charge 100%
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
Maybe once every couple of months. Hyundai recommends you charge the car to full once a month. When I’m at home I set the car to charge to 70%, when I’m on road trips I set the car to charge to 90%
@bestevmod_aosk9 ай бұрын
Hey, can we collab on Ioniq5 accessories about your KZfaq video?
@UpperWestEV5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the request, but I sold my Ioniq 5.
@MrAvant123 Жыл бұрын
So the USA has taken a break from rubbishing BMW's and turned on Korean EV's !
@UpperWestEV Жыл бұрын
Ha ha I don’t know about that. I recommend don’t buy used BMWs because it seems to me BMW only cares about the first owner.
@texasblaze101611 ай бұрын
Even more impressive, range degradation of my gas powered car after 300,000 miles: 0.00%
@Paulmetatron810 ай бұрын
hahaha actually that probably isnt relatively true. Im sure your gas mileage has dropped 10 to 15%. Funny post nonetheless.
@texasblaze101610 ай бұрын
@Paulmetatron8 you know its true. Gas cars dont have range degradation
@Paulmetatron810 ай бұрын
@@texasblaze1016 the amount of maintenance that goes into a gas car to maintain mileage is very very time consuming, expensive and you need to buy a top of the line car (thus more money) to get that. BUT YES they do degrade. Maybe you know more than this guy w 5.9 million viewers: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lZ57qa9516jPlmQ.html
@UpperWestEV5 ай бұрын
But can your gas car get over 100 miles per gallon and can you fill the tank from your rooftop?