Hey fellow film person! I’m a gaffer always love running across a comment from a fellow film pro. Cheers!

Which monitor do u have

I can only talk from my experience of it! And I love the iPad, you only have to glance at my channel to see 😅

For me personally the experience with the latest ipad pro is so limited. I want to program software, do video editing and use mouse and keyboard. This is not fully supported as desktop applications on Windows. So for me, it is an extremely limited experience, which is frustrating because it already has the M2 chip that can do literally everything.

I agree, I’ve seen so many KZfaqrs claim that the iPad Pro is not a laptop replacement, but they never consider that we aren’t all content creators, video editors, photographers, digital artists, or app developers. We don’t have their complicated workflows requiring niche and advanced features for producing commercial-grade audiovisual projects. Not everyone needs to run Xcode, especially not on a device meant to be highly portable and travel-friendly. For the vast majority of people out there who need a good tablet AND a decent laptop, the iPad Pro is a good option as a dual-purpose device IMO.

@@aleksdeveloper698that’s funny, I’m typing this on my iPad Pro via a mechanical keyboard that’s connected to it, along with a Magic Trackpad and an external monitor. I must be some sort of wizard to use such sorcery on a mere iPad Pro. I also have Final Cut Pro and editors for JavaScript and Python on my iPad Pro, egads!

@@BoJangles42objectively it’s not a laptop replacement as it’s not as good to replace it period. If some are ok with just iPad it doesn’t mean it can replace laptop, it means you don’t need a laptop.

Nice! have you tried pairing it with your mac and using Universal Control? I used that a lot in my home office and loved it!

Glad you agree!

really sure about that ?

Thank you so much !

Yeah whats with not going full screen. You cannot game on it full screen???

Does DeX have proper webcam support?

Thanks! And I don't think Apple will ever put MacOS on the iPad 😩

@@TomWakeford it's app dependent, not system wide.

thanks for the kind words and for sharing about your experience - and yes you're right about side loading, looking forward to seeing what comes out

You're welcome, and yes, still plenty of work for apple to do!

Thanks, gotta be honest!

Let's hope they come sooner!

Awesome to read this, glad yours is working well

As a fellow student can I also give a shout out to Freeform plus Apple pencil with the iPad as a superb note taking combo.

Yeah it's not great actually I put that down to me being not being accurate enough with it but if it's happening to you too then maybe it's the trackpad!

That is a very niche target of audience bro, an iPad is just based of video consumption and handwriting. Use ur laptop on how it is and consider the fact windows and iOS/MAC are very different things lol

Perfect! Love to read this

Agree. Ipad Air should also comes with 128GB. 64 is not enough but 256 is also so much for so many people.

Can you use stage manager and external display without any issuese? I read the 64GB version lacks the memory swap feature, so the more apps you have open the more likely you will run out of memory and the app will reload itself when you switch back to that. What is you experience? Thank you!

@@gyunagyos I haven't used it with an External Monitor, I just use it as it is tbh! But a is, I've had no issues with reboots etc...

Plug and unplug 😐

you can do everything with the iPad, just keep searching.

Have you tried OnlyOffice? it's also open source, and it's available for iPad. I never used it on the iPad, but that's what I use on my desktop computer and I'm pretty happy with it.

Why not use an equivalent document suite like WPS or Office? Though I can understand wanting to stick to LibreOffice since it's open source

@@aaryaagarwal1045 I already use LibreOffice on my Mac, Windows, and Linux systems, and would rather not faff about with “compatible” import/export.

It really does work extra nicely paired with a Mac. 👍

I think people are struggling to define the iPads place because they want to see it as a replacement for a MBP when in reality it’s an extension of the iPhone. And when treated as such it becomes super easy to integrate it into center of your productivity

@@bigboma not iPads in general, just iPad Pros. iPads up to the Air model are clearly just tablets and should be treated as such, period. iPad Pros, on the other hand, cost as much as an "effing" great laptop, as in a MB Air (with some upgrades too). The 12.9" with pen and keyboard costs almost as much a MB Pro, here in Italy. That's what is making it extra hard for this product to have a place in the market, it just isn't as good as a MB and it's not versatile enough to replace it (nor to complement it imo). I'll be selling my iPad Pro next month and my MB Air and get a MB Pro. If I'll ever get the urge to write by hand I'll buy an iPad Mini, which is by far the most honest iPad currently.

​@@jack_2612 Sorry if that wasnt clear, I was talking specifically about I pad pros. I think thats whats missing from this consumer equation is that folks are going the ipad route when they need a mac book and then are disappointed that their ipad pro, is an an ipad pro and not a mac book. What youre really asking for is a macbook with a touch screen. Which is fine, but thats not what an ipad is. The selling point of the ipad pro is that its modular. it has a certain levels of production that its capable of at different stages depending on what you have equipped to it. I use my ipad a stand alone note taking device, productivity manager, when i need more control i put it in my magic keyboard to increase my productivity, when I need even more functionality I dock it and connect it to my 4k display, keyboard, and mouse and do heavy video editing and if i need to switch back to lower levels of productivity, I undock it and I'm back to note taking, scheduling tasks or taking pictures. The reason why the ipad pro works for me and others is that I have use for all levels of the productivity and function that its capable of. And for those whos productivity/functionality requirements grow over time, you're an accessory away from having that and you get to do that in a user interface that youre already familiar with. If your need for a device lies only at the higher end of productivity and function, why would you even look in the direction of the ipad pro? A Macbook is always going to be a macbook, an ipad pro can be whatver you need it to be when the time calls for it. I will say that it would definitely be nice if ipad pro developers made apps that took more advantage of the ipad pros functionality, especially while in docked mode, but doesn't require an ipad to be running MacOS.

You need to make sure you have a keyboard and mouse attached to the iPad already, then it will (should) defualt to stage manager style over mirroring

I'm accessing through the browser! Try that and they should be there

Better? Depends on use case. I use both, I do find a mouse easier for click and drag and large movements (though I don’t reach for it if it’s only once). I have a large 3M mousepad that fits both. The trackpad can sit on my lap if I want to lean back, or be moved over for room for another item I need and still be as reachable (unlike a mouse where your arm would be stretching and moving making it difficult to control well or just be tiring). Trackpad is stationary and you can map it, I have the bottom left corner set up for my use and I love the two and three finger swipes and pinch and zoom type function. If you can only have one, likely the trackpad would be the choice.

@@RedErin thanks, I'll still using a mouse, do you know how connect wireless headphones and use a external mic in iPad?

Yeah I get that but then I want the apps when I’m using it as an ipad again! Haha

Yep

I tried out dex a while ago and it was great!

Mac Mini would be better in nearly every way if you need desktop level apps

Oh that's sick!

It does show the copying time now which is cool, but yes the files app is very meh

I’m very disappointed that after all this time these little glitches couldn’t have been take care of and the desktop experience made perfect, COME ON! I remembered another stupid glitch that almost made me rip my hair off (but I remember I’m going bald so I didin’t 😂): when I downloaded files from the web, pdfs, documents mostly, normal stuff, if I choose a destination like the internal storage or iCloud, it downloaded fine, but if I chose Google Drive, which I was daily driving at that time, files wouldn’t download or get plain lost. Btw I had that problem too with Bluetooth keyboards, I was misspelling all the time with my Logitech slim folio pro or even with my Logitech MX Keys. Ever since 2018 I switched to OneDrive and windows laptops with a Microsoft 365 Family subscription and it works better but still this whole experience is halfassed at best. Have you had this last glitch too? Don’t get me wrong I have still faith in iPadOS and iPads in general and I want it to get better because it’s the only Mac I would consider buying again in the future but this desktop experience unacceptable for a “pro” device, hell even Samsung Dex is doing really good lately.

This is a big oversight, and I had thought it was planned to be fixed in iPadOS 17. Sadly, not.

It’s fixed in 17.1

@@chcersej This is great news! 👍

@@chcersej Just download the 17.1 beta and it does work! I really wanted that, I’m really happy. Thank you!

@@ariesfunk You’re welcome. That feature has been long time om its way! Cheers.

Yeah, I get that - just tested it from my perspective!

Safari for sure

@@ByteReview Same. It shows you more info on the screen at once. The iPad App I think is only useful if you have Premium and need to download videos if you don’t have reliable mobile internet.

I'm using meet in the browser! Try it there?

full external screen support and stage manager?

​@ByteReview True, thanks

You can use a USB C dongle and plug in an HDMI cable. But the mini does not support display extension or stage manager. You’ll just get a mirrored view of the iPad screen.

yeah it's a big upgrade! And thanks! haha, I don't blame you in a way, it's very easy to fall off the wagon of using it

Also... Can you not select the audio output by long pressing the AirPlay logo above 'now playing' in control centre'??? @@ByteReview

Yea you can , for bluetooth, not the ipad speakers tho @@ChrisWilmshurst @ @ByteReview

Same I got iPad 9 gen and I got the same issue otherwise , iPad is my main source of information/ entertainment.

I forgot to mention the video streaming - which seems to have been fixed in most apps with iOS 17, thankfully. Apps would automatically play streaming video on external display, even though I started them on iPad and not display. Pluto, Hulu, Paramount, and more. Peacock seemingly flashed “Apple AirPlay” and then did the same. Most seemed to have stopped that now - VERY helpful, as I’d like to be able to have a video play full screen on my iPad like a mini tv, but then use external display as a computer. :)

So I got my thoughts down, and now made it to the end of the video - Here’s what I’m doing… I’m a pastor. And even though I live right next door to my church in a parsonage, the portability of my iPad is so key. Sure, the laptop is portable, but still kind of bulky, and I don’t need the full computing power. Sometimes I just want to hold in my hands. Enter iPad. But, having the external display - gives me the ability to practically fully use my iPad as a computer at home. (Main problem being how Microsoft apps behave on iPad - not as nice as I’d like.) I can use my iPad on my gooseneck mount for video conferences. I can have multiple windows open for doing my sermons. I have used it for my personal - and now with Discord finally allowing video while having other apps open - I don’t have to bring the computer home to do my D&D with friends anymore. I can do it all on my iPad. I’m not one that needs (currently?) full computing power and abilities. I can do a lot with the cloud and compatible apps. And then perfectly take my work - or my entertainment - on the road with me!

I think this is the best way to think about it!