iPhone 13 ProRes Video - Explained!
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It’s here. It’s time. Apple ProRes is hitting the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max right now! 422 HQ to be exact. 6 gigabytes be minute to be even more exact. But what does that even mean and how would you even use it?
Alex Linsday joins me - The man who knows as much about ProRes as anyone outside Apple, and who you may know from ILM and Queen Amidala’s ship, or streaming pretty much every major event in big tech - to talk all about it!
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@marsgizmo 2 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent explanation of ProRes!
@ClayGordon 2 жыл бұрын
I worked for the first HD video production company in the US back in 91/92. At the time, a single 3-tube camera and 1” open reel recorder cost well over $500k (in 91 dollars). What is most astonishing to me is that I am now able to acquire a higher quality image in such a tiny form factor for a fraction of the cost, without requiring an engineer (or three).
@Shundi879 2 жыл бұрын
What a great interview. It’s wonderful to hear someone explain the real world use cases for this feature, and for the iPhone as a camera in general, and why it matters in such a detailed manner.
@MushToast_ 2 жыл бұрын
Love your style and the way you deep dive into technical subjects Rene. Awesome stuff!
@sloanNYC 2 жыл бұрын
I think Apple is really missing an opportunity to create the BEST set up. Imagine your phone on a MagSafe tripod with a thunderbolt cable connected to your MacBook Pro... it's like a mini studio in a back pack. Set up 3 phones for different angles and you can do interviews, etc.
@s.chaubey8098 2 жыл бұрын
Wow
@FighterFlash Жыл бұрын
You should patent this
@droneman8343 Жыл бұрын
SPOT On !
@kkshinichi Жыл бұрын
iPhone 15 Pro will make this happen
@rowingdan6532 9 ай бұрын
Well, look at them now...
@andyto 2 жыл бұрын
Thx for uploading this Rene! Learned a lot 👍🏼
@ReneRitchie 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@JeffMarraccini 2 жыл бұрын
Having ProRes nearly always available for the unexpected is wonderful. So great to listen in on this conversation between two experts! Thank you, Alex and Rene!
@ReneRitchie 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jeff! Have you given it a whirl yet?
@JeffMarraccini 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReneRitchie I have and like you mentioned elsewhere, editing ProRes on the M1 Max MacBooks Pro is like editing a 720P video :-) No beach balls!
@MrCjrodriguez 2 жыл бұрын
This was a great video! I have a much better appreciation of the ProRes video format and practical use cases for it on an iPhone. Thank you!
@MatheusStefano 2 жыл бұрын
What a high quality video Rene, bring more specialists to your Chanel
@dav 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing a real expert in the matter. Very cool Rene
@Reform3d 2 жыл бұрын
10:30-11:16 Rene, this discussion about the lack of Thunderbolt support is important. At what point does Apple finally address this? While having ProRes on an iPhone is awesome, the throughput limitation for transferring data is maddening. What’s the point of having a Ferrari if you can only drive it on local roads at 20mph/kph? When will Apple finally address this?
@thoda_pyo_6946 2 жыл бұрын
Really shows how stubborn apple is, like thus give USB-C man fucking idiots
@ReneRitchie 2 жыл бұрын
My guess is we'll get something like the ultra-high speed wireless transfer they're testing with the new Apple Watch service function?
@utubekullanicisi 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReneRitchie What is the theoretical maximum throughput they can achieve with 60.5GHz wireless transfer? Not that I'm thinking about the time when we come to a point that we can max that out from today but it'd be good to know if we at least have headroom till Thunderbolt 5 (80Gbps)
@BLCKVD 2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile here i’m with my iphone 13 pro max (256gb) and it really is embarrasing this lightning port, this was my first iphone ever also (i moved from long time android usage), but this fcking slow lightning port is absolutely one of the worst of iphones negative sides, and this came with usb-c to lightning port cable, like wtf, it doesn’t even make sense, only made things harder, that I can’t charge this phone on anywhere else than on my single macbook 61wat charger (which has usb-c port) atm, I have to still go and buy like usb-A to lightning port to be able to charge on my car etc ffs…
@theanimazin 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReneRitchie that sounds promising
@sow4now 2 жыл бұрын
Alex’s sound quality is insanely good! What’s his setup?! Gotta havit, now!
@jeffhale1189 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your interview with Alex Linsday: great information. Blessings on your day.
@ReneRitchie 2 жыл бұрын
You too, Jeff!
@tksyt 2 жыл бұрын
OMG it’s Alex!!! Didn’t see that coming. Great video you guys!
@ReneRitchie 2 жыл бұрын
Who else could I have gotten for this, right?
@PlanetCypher_ 2 жыл бұрын
How was this recorded? Audio and video is top notch !
@christophenevejan4782 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing conversation! Top level! Great insights! Thanks 🙏
@cazarilolsen4630 2 жыл бұрын
Alex is great at explaining the system.
@pyroll4119 2 жыл бұрын
Wunderful video! Thanks Rene
@kdonoghue 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great primer on current codecs, well done!
@ReneRitchie 2 жыл бұрын
All Alex!
@DouglasFischer 2 жыл бұрын
I really learned a lot from this video! Thank you very much!
@ChristopherGavin 2 жыл бұрын
what an amazing interview!
@ChristopherMarshburn 2 жыл бұрын
Now I understand why someone might actually want a phone with 1 TB of storage.
@TonyisToking 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it is a really good workflow they’ve setup… until you’re ready to transfer from iPhone to Mac, haha. Everything feels lightning fast… but the lightning port itself. Question: Does a M1 handle ProRes 422 HQ well? Or do you have to use a M1X to be able to work with it?
@erstwhilegrubstake 2 жыл бұрын
It's so nice hearing Alex Lindsay speak without someone constantly interrupting him for a change.
@TonyisToking 2 жыл бұрын
That’s my favorite part of MacBreak weekly hahaha
@erstwhilegrubstake 2 жыл бұрын
@@TonyisToking Hey, I didn't name names. 😄
@ds1svg 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly… he finally got to speak complete sentences.
@evanharris5088 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. Can’t wait to try it out this weekend!
@Phillip1220 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative, more videos like this please.
@alinacarmenatis3275 2 жыл бұрын
Great technical understandable explanation
@ReneRitchie 2 жыл бұрын
Alex is low key genius!
@emilianocquijano 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks!
@DaryleHamel 2 жыл бұрын
What a great informative and educational video! My first thought- “Should’ve got the 1TB version!”. My follow up thought- “I’m not waiting to airdrop that file every time I shoot something”.
@ReneRitchie 2 жыл бұрын
Ha! Took me about 3 minutes to AirDrop a 1 minute ProRes 422 HQ video
@DaryleHamel 2 жыл бұрын
It just took 7:48 to airdrop a 4K 30 ProRes file from my iPhone 13 Pro to my 2017 iMac Pro @@ReneRitchie - maybe that time will decrease when the M1 Max gets delivered next month
@johnrheybustarga9085 2 жыл бұрын
This makes ProRes available for students and makes it more convenient. Hope there's a 13 way back when i was still a student. 🙏
@Spock1234 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Very informative. Thanks. And, was that your daughter in the video with the sunlight behind her? What a beautiful girl. You must be so proud!
@asapsinclair5491 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this take 🙌🏽 didn’t knew what the heck prores is 😅
@hiiamchristianu 2 жыл бұрын
I’m getting the 13 Pro in 2-3 weeks. I would love to try this feature for video production.
@ReneRitchie 2 жыл бұрын
Let me know how it goes!
@nthurston9049 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReneRitchie please don’t quote me on your video streams or use my username if you talk about this, but I have a theory that the Apple “starlight” color may be a new way to pay homage to the classic beige computer colors that used to dominate the industry back in the day. Personally, I am big fan of the beige colors of the phones and watches and would absolutely love to see this color available for all of their products, not as a replacement to silver or space gray, but as a new addition to the lineup. Sorry for being a bit off topic, but seemed like as good of a time as any
@robert6833 2 жыл бұрын
Fassssssscinating conversation about data and codecs.
@ThreeTwentyTech 2 жыл бұрын
ProRes is probably enough to get people to upgrade to the 256gb model, alone.
@ReneRitchie 2 жыл бұрын
Think that's enough space?
@ThreeTwentyTech 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReneRitchie No but I don't have enough arms and legs to afford any higher storage tiers 🤣
@Workingfilms 2 жыл бұрын
@babyhammurabi on my 512gb I can record about 85min of 4K ProRes422 HQ in filmic pro. Dropping down to 422 and 422LT that number goes up to about 120mins and 150mins respectively. That’s a decent amount of storage space for one or two shoots, depending on the kind of work you’re doing.
@richascolese480 2 жыл бұрын
Very well done
@thechazz8080 2 жыл бұрын
Just got my new iPhone 13pro on Monday and honestly, might start trying out ProRes and happy cause the video and photos it takes feel far better than an on my old iPhone 11 And plus more memory!
@kale8803 2 жыл бұрын
Yo Rene, can you try parallels with the baseline M1 Pro. I need to know if 16 gigs is enough RAM to run Visual Studio
@FoxxFire 2 жыл бұрын
Rene, is that pro res video you showed side by side starting around the 5:04 mark of the video more choppy than the HEVC video? Why does that happen? I understand the footage is much larger and more difficult to save to storage, but I didn't think it might affect the stability of the video. Or maybe it's just a placebo and they're both the same?
@colindoyle9876 2 жыл бұрын
Alex Lindsay MUCH RESPECT :)
@1emc 2 жыл бұрын
Great interview! what microphone was Alex using? The sound is super clear! What’s the best way to transfer the large video files from the iphone to a computer, using the lightning cable and finder? Will apple release a pro iphone with an SD card?
@MikeJohnson-qy4wq 9 ай бұрын
Looks like an ElectroVoice RE20, a very standard broadcasting mic used in radio stations for decades. Sounds like he’s also feeding it through a touch of EQ and some compression.
@BootStrapTurnerVideography 2 жыл бұрын
Love ProRes on my iPhone 13 Pro 512GB with Filmic Pro and Zhiyun Smooth 4 gimbal. But I loathe, loathe getting the content off the iPhone and onto my 14” MacBook Pro M1 Max. Decided to add Atomos Ninja V to my Panasonic LUMIX GH5 for ProRes and iPhone as a b-roll camera.
@DaciaProject Жыл бұрын
Drag and drop ProRes with iMazing. . .
@affiahuzma7843 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome thank you
@ArcMediaFilms 2 ай бұрын
Brilliant thanks 👍
@Gokhanaj 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Rene. Now that you have and HDR camera that can shoot prores and HDR capable MacBook Pro maybe you can make your videos in HDR?
@brandonsmith6962 2 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot
@scarpad 2 жыл бұрын
I was lured by the z flip3 but the poor battery made me order a 13 pro and thamkfully the 512gb model. Now apple needs to ditch the lightenIng connector
@cell1540rol 2 жыл бұрын
They need to update the Lightning connector to support USB 3. If I’m not mistaken, the 2017 iPad Pro supports USB 3 through its lightning connector. Why can’t an iPhone support it 5 years later?
@jaycee2556 2 жыл бұрын
Will we be able to capture clear videos of ufo’s finally?
@clipper99 2 жыл бұрын
Can you record ProRes on the dev beta yet?
@user-ym6lc7pk1e 2 жыл бұрын
What’s good is ProRes if it would take you 1 hour to transfer a 5 minute clip over that USB 2 lighting cable?How Apple could release a ‘Pro’ phone with a 10 year old connectivity?
@nsbrandhouse9443 2 жыл бұрын
Just use internet bruh
@user-ym6lc7pk1e 2 жыл бұрын
@@nsbrandhouse9443 The Internet to copy 100Gb file to the cloud and then back to PC? My upload is not much better then USB 2.0 speeds and most people have very limited upload speeds on cable internet.
@challbekan6272 2 жыл бұрын
The dude on the left’s video is way crisper than Rene’s. Makes sense he’s the video production guy.
@ReneRitchie 2 жыл бұрын
He’s in a 12K camera!
@christanzafra1570 2 жыл бұрын
Wow this would be the Perfect Videos with you both together very nice Collaborations with videos reviewing IPhone 13 Pro very nice Cameras and anything this would be the Amazing Phone ever I’m really happy and enjoying watching all your videos Rene I’m very Fan’s of Apple Products I really hope to buy that Someday Good Evening from Philippines I’m so much enjoying watching your videos Rene I’m so excited what would be your next videos again I can’t wait to see that next 😊😱💯
@tipoomaster 2 жыл бұрын
They really need a way to get it off the phone with better than USB 2.0 speeds next round though.
@tomosima1992 2 жыл бұрын
i have the iPhone 13 pro but prolly will never use prores i wish it had USB-C over that
@dimitrimoonlight 2 жыл бұрын
The bottle neck is lightning 🤣
@Mike0193Azul Жыл бұрын
Transferring files into and out of iphone and iPad is the most frustrating thing. So slow, complicated, and buggy. The only way I see fit is wirelessly between cloud services & online transfers but it's horrible and unreliable. If anyome has tips over the best ways to transfer large photo and video files please let me know. For his tip on using Prores Hq for 10 bit does the same apply on other cameras between all-i and long-op?
@mrracecar3692 Жыл бұрын
If you record 1 hour of pro res on your phone. It will take 2.5 hours to transfer it to your editing machine. Absolute madness
@WhittyPics 2 жыл бұрын
Creating huge files on an iPhone needs a faster port to get the files off the phone.
@bredner94 2 жыл бұрын
I wish they could do the same to the iPhone as they did to the new MacBook Pro… (put type c)
@generallyhelpfulsoftware646 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like it’s more likely that Apple will remove wired connections entirely on their phones than put in a Thunderbolt connection. Also, the iPhone 13 has Wi-Fi 6 which should be around twice as fast as the USB-2 based lightning. I don’t have any hard numbers, but maybe 700 Mbps to maybe 400 Mbps seems about right.
@TacticalTrucker 9 ай бұрын
_I was really waiting for the conversation about where all of this started, Zack Snyder short film on KZfaq recorded with the iPhone 7 Plus_
@N8Catona 2 жыл бұрын
So if I film home tours, should I get the pro for this feature or no? I'd post it on Instagram afterwards.
@spartaleonidas540 Жыл бұрын
M2 hardware acceleration of prores is beast
@user9b2 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine putting the iPhone pro max camera into an M1 iPad pro but in an iPad mini body. How much more can proffessional and amateur can do with that. I an viewing this on my M1 iPad Pro - so pro res comes through fine.
@olioli6165 2 жыл бұрын
How is the speed when exported with iCloud?
@raymondwiik6311 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot wait to upgrade my iPhone XS Max!
@encik.ak0303 2 жыл бұрын
Yes there is no audio jack. Great while stuck with lightning to audio converter to capture audio. Wait..not great at all.
@andymorin9163 9 ай бұрын
now we have ProRes 4K60 recording to a usb ssd!
@MrArdytube 2 жыл бұрын
Apple does not need a port less phone…. They need a port with higher bandwidth to handle these enormous files
@cuuppaajoe 2 жыл бұрын
As you said in the video, this is really pointless if everyone continues to use KZfaq as their primary output. Does it help in post? Yes, but only if you have a lot of post to do.
@PlanetCypher_ 2 жыл бұрын
Can anyone see apple releasing a cinema camera like DJI have? Or maybe a red style body camera.
@benroytravels9881 2 жыл бұрын
I thought i was the lonely one watching tech news this early 😅
@_Mike.P 2 жыл бұрын
It’s 4:20pm here, so it isn’t that early.
@ReneRitchie 2 жыл бұрын
Ha, how early is it for you?
@_Mike.P 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReneRitchie did you just get spammed by your own impersonator?
@benroytravels9881 2 жыл бұрын
I guess 😂
@TyroneLT 2 жыл бұрын
Now get rid of that lighting port so it doesn't take an eternity to transfer those files to a computer!
@ReneRitchie 2 жыл бұрын
Or just move Lightning to USB 3.1 speeds, right?
@Cookinboy05 2 жыл бұрын
I’m curious, I wouldn’t call my self a creator. So where would you store this massive file? Do you take it off iCloud? Because I don’t see apple making more storage available. Lol
@ReneRitchie 2 жыл бұрын
Transfer to Mac and edit in Final Cut :)
@miami_photographers 2 жыл бұрын
this is a great free class. can anyone reffer me to a video for beginer's editing proress please
@redguitar6062 2 жыл бұрын
It's all well and good but where does a consumer-level user store all this stuff? I'm already at 4TB or family pics and vids. Apple don't offer anywhere near enough in their iCloud packages and who's interested in spending thousands on NAD back ups?
@nigelbassett3791 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a reason that Apple doesn’t just add thunderbolt support to lightning now that intel has opened the spec up?
@vijeykumar7429 2 жыл бұрын
Lightning royalty money💰💰🤑
@nigelbassett3791 2 жыл бұрын
@@vijeykumar7429 that doesn’t explain anything. They could keep lighting and the royalties and use the thunderbolt 3 spec like usb 4 does
@ReneRitchie 2 жыл бұрын
Fitting Thunderbolt into a phone might be a tad much (needs controllers, PCIe lanes, etc). But not putting way faster speeds into Lightning or USB-C is frustrating now that we have ProRes
@nigelbassett3791 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReneRitchie I’m wondering if that work could be spent giving that spec to MagSafe then and deleting the port. The iPad Pro shows that it’s not a z axis limitation, so maybe enough space could be saved to do it. I don’t particularly care how I get my prores and ProRAW off or do data recovery and updates, so if we’re going portless, at least put the faster charging rate effort (which I think is plenty fast enough for now) into data transfer speeds
@mohamedsobhy292 2 жыл бұрын
Lighting port: 😆
@markus98h66 2 жыл бұрын
Does the iPhone 12 Pro Max get ProRes as well?
@emanuelmcfail 2 жыл бұрын
No
@owlmostdead9492 2 жыл бұрын
If only there would exist a faster connection than the antiquated lightning…
@wellszhou8286 2 жыл бұрын
How about wireless transfer, that’s the future I think, I mean Airdrop exists now
@sonarun 2 жыл бұрын
@@wellszhou8286 airdrop is fast, but very unreliable. It just simply doesn’t work about 30% of the time, requiring rebooting of the phone or toggling airplane mode. Cabled connections are significantly more useful.
@owlmostdead9492 2 жыл бұрын
@@sonarun Airdop is not “fast” it’s about as slow as USB 2.0, maybe slightly faster depending on file type. The iPhone needs USB-C period.
@crtzmo 2 жыл бұрын
ProRes is just nuts. Bring it to every device. Set the people free.
@ReneRitchie 2 жыл бұрын
It's a huge amount of overhead. Older devices don't have the storage systems to handle it (can't write the data fast enough to disk for 422 HQ) but it looks like future devices will keep getting better!
@crtzmo 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReneRitchie the power being unleashed in these new devices (iPhone, iPad, MacBook) is just incredible - such rapid changes with the new silicon. Hard to fathom where ProRes will be in 3yrs on further optimized devices. 🤯
@karanpersaud1 2 жыл бұрын
I literally pronounced that as p-roar-ez! Lmao
@alanc6416 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, and thank you for taking the sideline. I mean I like your videos but sometimes you just mumble a bit too much, that’s just personal preference forgive me if you find that offensive. But taking the sideline and letting the Profesional speak in an interview and help explaining it does make things easier for the layman viewer like me who likes to understand more about tech but don’t have the knowledge to do it. Great job! Keep up the good work.
@kermitrehab 2 жыл бұрын
all is nice .. but then KZfaq compresses it all again .. and we are back to square one
@ReneRitchie 2 жыл бұрын
KZfaq is a delivery system. ProRes is still really, really useful as a production system
@_Ace._ 2 жыл бұрын
You are all so silly. ProRes isn't pro resolution, ProRes is a compressed format. Uncompressed video is unaltered, full-resolution video. Each frame of video is fully represented in its purest form. Compression tries to interpret the same video but in a smaller file size.
@mitchjames9350 2 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna take this with a pinch of salt as you can have a small specialist camera with ProRes instead of using an iphone. This could be Apple paying for advertising for the iPhones as the cameras are very much from Sony.
@princeerick11 2 жыл бұрын
iPhone ❤️
@kumoitojp 2 жыл бұрын
Finally understand the protest hype! BTW, Love CuriosityStream! Nebula … the jury is still out. Too much like KZfaq to feel valuable yet, different enough to feel clunky.
@FoxxFire 2 жыл бұрын
You know, some video professionals come on this channel as guests and their video and audio quality is horrendous. This guest, on the other hand, really did an excellent job of having great video/audio from his side and so we could concentrate more on the message than horrendous quality that occurs with some other guests (not Gruber; his video/audio, which I understand was from the new MBP, was excellent as well). And this guest really sounds like he knows what he's talking about lol.
@brentsmithline3423 2 жыл бұрын
Yes Rene could you, and other pundits please stop talking about the "dreaded notch", and the size of bezels. Professionals, and normals need the best tech when it comes to the connection port. Apple needs to put UBS4 host mode all options on its devices like the iPhone. That would give us 40 Gbit/s data transfer rate when connected to any of the new Apple M1 series mac's.
@wellszhou8286 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, how about Airdrop
@sonarun 2 жыл бұрын
@@wellszhou8286 unreliable.
@brentsmithline3423 2 жыл бұрын
@@wellszhou8286 Most normals do not know how to do Airdrop. Why not put the best connection technology in a device that you can?
@kakashi1300 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing videos from prores, only to be limited by the archaic lightning chord that makes those ultra-sized files transfer at ultra-slow speeds. Hear me out apple: THE LIGHTNING HAS TO GO!
@dreamsider 2 жыл бұрын
Just use airdrop it should be atleast faster than lightning
@kakashi1300 2 жыл бұрын
@@dreamsider can’t airdrop without mac. Also it would still be slower than the potential of usb c.
@mydisk2859 2 жыл бұрын
Storage full in iphone after recording 2 mins
@telaltube3383 2 жыл бұрын
The more you explain it the more i get convinced we’re asked to pay MORE for features we DONT need as simple users! I want a nice screen 120hz refresh and a better battery life. But Definitely not this!!!!!
@Workingfilms 2 жыл бұрын
You don’t need to use it 🤷🏻♂️
@telaltube3383 2 жыл бұрын
@@Workingfilms well..but I have to pay for it!
@asdf51501 2 жыл бұрын
Good informative interview. However, I’m not the guy who flies to Africa to go on safari and films giraffes in ProRes so this stuff is almost completely irrelevant to me personally. I do, however, empathize with your pain over the damnable Lightning connector. That’s just ridiculous on Apple’s part.
@Capetown2233 2 жыл бұрын
obviously the video / Camera on iPhone 13 is just beyond this world. Then why should I have Whatapp or tinder in a such a beautiful “phone” . Apple could perhaps create a totally new device just for video without sim or all those other disruptions. A dedicated video perhaps , or iPod with such capabilities!,,
@brandonspiterig 2 жыл бұрын
Now all it needs is a USB C ... And it will be almost perfect having to waste 2hrs to transfer a file in 2022 is simply not right.
@JoseTheRover 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not flat and there still no pro camera controls so this update is pointless
@_FMSL_ 2 жыл бұрын
if you only use youtube, podcasts, imessage and instagram, do you really need a "PRO"? coming from a 11 pro max
@xroyalstevenx9151 2 жыл бұрын
No, unless you really care about battery. My 13 pro lasts a day and a half basically.
@MultiformeIngegno 2 жыл бұрын
Lightening is the clear bottleneck. I hate when Apple does not make changes that are clearly logical and will benefit users only because at some point they said “Lightning will be the connector for the next 10 years”. Who cares if they change if 7 years later, 8 years later, or 9 years later…
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