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1990 European Athletics Championships Men's 1500m final

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@APBCTechnique
@APBCTechnique 2 ай бұрын
Cram had a brilliant racing brain, always made the right move at the right time but after 1986 never had the legs to keep going. 82-86 cram was brilliant
@jenspeterherold8594
@jenspeterherold8594 4 жыл бұрын
My greatest race
@mickeymouse7861
@mickeymouse7861 4 жыл бұрын
The great Jens Peter! I would have thought the Olympic bronze was better. I guess coming first is nicer though.
@APBCTechnique
@APBCTechnique 3 жыл бұрын
Many congratulations 🍾🎉🎈🎊 I was a big fan of yours
@simplicissimus9822
@simplicissimus9822 2 жыл бұрын
Freue mich jedes Mal, wenn ich mir deine Rennen angucke, dass ich einen Großteil meines Lebens im gleichen Dorf wie du gewohnt habe ;). Liebe Grüße
@ianwhitehead5435
@ianwhitehead5435 Жыл бұрын
Well done Jens Peter, you deserved your victory. 😊
@simonprice2104
@simonprice2104 8 күн бұрын
We ruled middle distance in the 80s then we didn't after
@garetht9205
@garetht9205 9 жыл бұрын
The day British middle-distance running died..200m to go and it looked like another British 1-2-3. Would have loved to have seen Coe carry on for 6 more months and go out with a Gold here and a final victory over Cram. Astonishing to think Coe was breaking records 7 years before Cram did and then was still getting the better of world champions like Abde Bile (if he hadn't been cheated) over a decade later when Cram was already long washed up. Shows that there should be no argument as to who was the greater of the two. This race might also have been the last pre-EPO era...although one has to wonder about the East Germans... And Steve Ovett is a much better commentator than Cram.
@saschasix9958
@saschasix9958 9 жыл бұрын
Gareth T bit dramatic no? They lost, that's all. The large scale (re)emergence of (West) Africans is IMO what killed middle distance running as a spectator sport. When those guys from 800m up to 10k can do a 49/50 second last lap who can stay with it? Nobody seems to be able to replicate it, even if they go and train with them. While it's great those guys can run their way out of poverty by being so fantastic, it kills the events for gritty, strength based races like there used to be. It's like in the 4x400m, the cameras barely bother with who's up front any more (the US) and let's face it, so many of their old squads have been found to be drug users after the fact that just about every team who came in behind them should be moved up a place. Not saying the Africans are on drugs, but it's the same idea- when one person or nation wins all the time, it's dull. Doesn't just go for athletics either. When Cram, Coe, Ovett ran, they showed their class quite often but the races were usually full of drama, bumping and boring, and you couldn't say at the start who was going to win at the end.
@garetht9205
@garetht9205 9 жыл бұрын
Sascha Six "bit dramatic no? They lost, that's all. " I was just trying to be slightly poetic. Britain had dominated middle distance running for over a decade and with 200m to go it looked like another 1-2-3. I know Peter Elliot and Tom Mckean had some more victories after here, but you have to admit British middle-distance running has been abysmal since 1990, even compared to the previous 100 years, let alone the incredible decade that had just passed. As has been noted many times here, Coe, Ovett and Cram..even Elliot and McKean would still be chasing medals today, 30 years later (and their times were on inferior tracks, running shoes etc). For some reason, there are very few great white middle-distance runners since 1990 - the improvement in African athletics can't explain it all (although likely a generation of white runners have been probably less tempted to go into middle-distance as the perception is you have to be African to succeed.)
@garetht9205
@garetht9205 9 жыл бұрын
Gareth T And regards this race, Herald and the Italian were not Africans last time I checked. The reason Cram and Elliot got run down here is because Cram was already burnt out by 1988 (he should have been at his peak around 1990- still only 28 in this race) and Elliot had been injured.
@garetht9205
@garetht9205 9 жыл бұрын
Gareth T If Coe hadn't retired after the Commonwealths and recovered from his flu which had cost him his chances there he would likely have won this with ease (and perhaps pipped McKean in the 800m too), at age 33. Pity really he didn't, as it would have laid to rest conclusively who was the better 1500m runner - Cram or Coe.
@garetht9205
@garetht9205 9 жыл бұрын
Gareth T Coe beat Herold and deNapoli at the 1989 world cup final the year before this race, despite getting almost knocked over by Bile in the home straight.
@Revolver1981
@Revolver1981 6 жыл бұрын
Is Steve Ovett one of the commentators here?
@phillipsargeant1936
@phillipsargeant1936 5 жыл бұрын
Yes he is....
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