Irish Troops in The Congo 1960s (Pt.1)

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johnniejukebox

johnniejukebox

8 жыл бұрын

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@toast1121
@toast1121 7 жыл бұрын
These poor men risked their lives and in the end they were seen as cowards. so saddening. i wish them all the best and hope they know that we see them as heroes today
@ringmaster627
@ringmaster627 6 жыл бұрын
Toast yeah it’s shitty when they got back home the Irish gov and people saw them as cowards even though they fought for 5 days against thousands of men but in 2005 they were honored for there actions for what they did there
@shapesnatch1341
@shapesnatch1341 6 жыл бұрын
Toast they actually got medals from the government last week. I watched the movie and was like "how proud i am to be irish".
@wcstevens7
@wcstevens7 5 жыл бұрын
The only cowards in this scenario are the politicians.
@IsraelCountryCube
@IsraelCountryCube 4 жыл бұрын
@@wcstevens7 yeah you can say that again.
@meshegechmekonen7472
@meshegechmekonen7472 3 жыл бұрын
I was saddened when I heared they were not given the respect they deserved....no one died that is some bravery right there and the fact that they refused to part of the ugly politician game..made me even appreciate them more.
@thequietman760
@thequietman760 Жыл бұрын
R.I.P to my Uncle Anthony Browne. Went to the Congo and never came home ☘️🇮🇪
@72mossy
@72mossy 5 жыл бұрын
My father was in the 34th Battalion. A bren Gunner Anthony Connors if anyone remembers him. He's 79 now. In good form.
@imrulkaiesimo9247
@imrulkaiesimo9247 5 жыл бұрын
I'm from Bangladesh, bordered with India and Mayanmar. I just watched the movie, made on the incident and then looked for more information about it on You Tube. Undoubtedly, Your Father is Hero. Sending prayers and love for him 😍💜
@andrewshnayderman3389
@andrewshnayderman3389 4 жыл бұрын
72mossy My prayers go to him from America
@roadbone1941
@roadbone1941 4 жыл бұрын
I salute him because I would have died in a situation like that for sure.
@bronra4x
@bronra4x 3 жыл бұрын
Does your father ever use the expression Gustahowley dungunga.... My uncle used to say it and I always wondered was it from the Congo
@meshegechmekonen7472
@meshegechmekonen7472 3 жыл бұрын
Me too just watched the movie and found this documentary...you should be proud of your dad.
@seosamhv
@seosamhv 5 жыл бұрын
The strongest lads...it’s a shame that many of them didn’t get to see the glory they deserved. These men had balls of steel. Not one death against a massive mercenary force. They were just there doing their job and in the long run Quinlan’s bravery and courage to diffuse the situation saved them.
@theboyoofoly
@theboyoofoly 4 жыл бұрын
The massive force was mostly locals, the notion that Katanga's military was exclusively mercenary based is largely urban legend, according to most historical estimates there never more than a few thousand foreigners at any point in time, their role was mostly for training the standing army of the fledgling state, though Tshombe's administration would go on to incorporate them into the standing army as officers, there is a great film call "the siege of Jadotville" which outlines not only the force arrayed against the Irishmen, but also the duplicity of the UN officials, and misinformation given to the "peacekeepers", very interesting piece of history
@NDULEENTERTAINMENT
@NDULEENTERTAINMENT Жыл бұрын
You got to be kidding me? Do you even know what was the true fight about? These Irish came in a constitutional country to defend a business man who declared his state independent! it's like Trump decides to make Washington an Independent state and the Irish army come to the rescue. Don't be blind by this one sided story. These people are terrorist and nothing good happened to my country after that and we are still suffering because of this guys. May their souls burn in hell
@patricklamshear6662
@patricklamshear6662 7 жыл бұрын
Every soldier who served in the congo was betrayed by the powers to be i;e the U N.
@lonelytraveller5062
@lonelytraveller5062 4 жыл бұрын
True. Now, the globe is facing a global catastrophe because of the China virus. Who betrayed us all? W.H.O.!!!!
@lonelytraveller5062
@lonelytraveller5062 3 жыл бұрын
@Rowan O'Mullane RIGHT ON!!!!
@niallobrien2341
@niallobrien2341 6 жыл бұрын
My dad served in the Congo very very proud of him
@elliot2294
@elliot2294 5 жыл бұрын
Good for ya young lad give Him ne best
@IsraelCountryCube
@IsraelCountryCube 4 жыл бұрын
@@elliot2294 Lol you had cherries
@roadbone1941
@roadbone1941 4 жыл бұрын
You are a good man to honor your dad. In todays throwaway society its important to have people who honor thise who deserve to be honored as a symbol of integrity we all could have.
@NDULEENTERTAINMENT
@NDULEENTERTAINMENT Жыл бұрын
your dad might be burning in hell at the moment. pray for his soul. I'm from Congo and what they v done to my country is unforgivable.
@NDULEENTERTAINMENT
@NDULEENTERTAINMENT Жыл бұрын
Don't be fooled by this video. As a Congolese myself I curse the day this team was put together. Do you even know what was the true fight about? These Irish came in a constitutional country to defend a business man who declared his state independent! it's like Trump decides to make Washington an Independent state and the Irish army come to the rescue. Don't be blind by this one sided story. These people are terrorist and nothing good happened to my country after that and we are still suffering because of this guys. May their souls burn in hell
@jonathanmungomba9491
@jonathanmungomba9491 7 жыл бұрын
The Irony is that I was born and raised in congo and I moved to Ireland 2years ago . People here are awesome ... Patrick quilian and his mans are real heroes
@tomkeegan3782
@tomkeegan3782 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the compliment Jonathan.
@RogueAngel97
@RogueAngel97 7 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe the UN would betray these brave souls in the long run.
@wcstevens7
@wcstevens7 7 жыл бұрын
Donovan Lee .Bloody politicians would burn their own families at the stake just for advancement.
@johnhariis250
@johnhariis250 5 жыл бұрын
@Gavin MacNeish me too!
@terryharris1291
@terryharris1291 5 жыл бұрын
The UN would be betray their own mother's .Look how they let down the Bosnian's and most other countries in the world from genocide etc.
@williamllewelyn9517
@williamllewelyn9517 4 жыл бұрын
The UN will never change, Yugoslavia, the Brits removed blue helmets and fought back
@OmmerSyssel
@OmmerSyssel 4 жыл бұрын
@@williamllewelyn9517 never heard of... Any sources available?
@amanyamani1685
@amanyamani1685 7 жыл бұрын
God bless the irish!
@dickthebutcher5804
@dickthebutcher5804 6 жыл бұрын
He already has. They are Irish!
@NDULEENTERTAINMENT
@NDULEENTERTAINMENT Жыл бұрын
for what? entering a constitutional country to defend a business man who declared his state independent? it's like Ambani decides to make Mumbai an Independent state and the Irish army comes to the rescue. Don't be blind by this one sided story. These people are terrorist and nothing good happened to my country after that and we are still suffering because of this guys. May their souls burn in hell
@dobtv5008
@dobtv5008 Жыл бұрын
​@DGBeats irish are peacekeepers. They don't shot unless someone shots at them. Plus it's Belgium and US that you should blame
@michealjones9863
@michealjones9863 6 ай бұрын
@@NDULEENTERTAINMENTpoor you and your Belgian friends
@reycisneros2925
@reycisneros2925 7 жыл бұрын
Salute and respect for these brave Irish men from Texas...
@goob4381
@goob4381 6 жыл бұрын
Dan Will they actually arent cowards because they only had 150 soilders in Jadotville and the president was murdered and a new president came in that wasnt even elected and was threatening the UN and they survived alot of waves and Dr. Bran hes apart of UN would not send reinforcments for them so they had to survive on their own its not their fault that Africa is in the conditon it is so you can shut the fuck up
@ineedmoney121
@ineedmoney121 6 жыл бұрын
@dan will ..you blaming ireland for africas problems? also why live in hope big man? if you spent less time typing you'd have more time for killing. i just stuck the kettle on pal call round when your ready.
@chalpo979
@chalpo979 5 жыл бұрын
Dan will looks like someone wasn’t educated enough
@johnhariis250
@johnhariis250 5 жыл бұрын
@@deez583 you're obviously a Brit!
@marknolido5968
@marknolido5968 4 жыл бұрын
Irish men from texas????
@countsmyth
@countsmyth 7 жыл бұрын
My grandad was gutted he couldn't go, he failed the army medical. His family was glad when this happened.
@opernambucano1886
@opernambucano1886 7 жыл бұрын
Sou do Brasil, que historia de bravura sem igual! Viva a irlanda gente católica povo de Deus!
@arnljot9030
@arnljot9030 6 жыл бұрын
My relative was there 2 from Sweden
@psycho4740
@psycho4740 4 жыл бұрын
For my grandparents god rest them was in the Congo for every man who served for my country hopefully I will be in the UN
@eblgraphics
@eblgraphics 3 жыл бұрын
The officers above the chain of command that failed these men were or are a disgrace...
@Mickey.Doyle80
@Mickey.Doyle80 6 жыл бұрын
My dad was there military police mick doyle
@caos1925
@caos1925 3 жыл бұрын
just saw a movie on this, specifically the battle of Jadotville, now I want to see more.
@locoboy9065
@locoboy9065 4 жыл бұрын
My uncle was in sheba told me it was hell no support but they fought like helll cried telling me said we where brothers
@boomer6611
@boomer6611 5 жыл бұрын
Well done lads!
@Randystudio217
@Randystudio217 4 жыл бұрын
10:44 wasn't expecting that
@larlacey9922
@larlacey9922 4 жыл бұрын
My great grandfather pet Michael mcGuinn died in this battle 🇮🇪❤️
@meshegechmekonen7472
@meshegechmekonen7472 3 жыл бұрын
Am so sorry to about your grandfather
@brainbiter4267
@brainbiter4267 Жыл бұрын
I remember my grandfather telling me his buddy was killed close to him My own grandad was shot trough his foot During a shootout. Great men to be proud of Respect bro✊🏻☘️
@starwarser007
@starwarser007 7 жыл бұрын
the independence of congo was badly organized by the international community, the UN wanted an independent Congo and forced Belgium to do it fast, nor the locals nor the colonials nor the Belgians were prepared for this and conflicts broke out, so the UN send peacekeepers from neutral countries like Sweden and Ireland who were completely unfamiliar with the conflict, the UN is a weak organization they failed more than resolving and created more conflicts, every single time they tried they were only complicating conflicts. I find it incredibly disrespectful how this documentary tried to show only the side of the U.N. peacekeepers and not the people who were seeing every single form of stability cringing away
@ryanuzell9078
@ryanuzell9078 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing anyone survived that ambush tony browne died actually looking for help in a village then he was mobbed and beaten to death by the locals the way some parts of the world were like and still are is crazy the governments and the un are to blame for most of it
@alz_2983
@alz_2983 3 жыл бұрын
These men were hero’s that weren’t given support used every bullet twice and not a single one had died
@ratdancerstonedeathwalker1702
@ratdancerstonedeathwalker1702 7 жыл бұрын
those irishmen would have kicked there asses if they got their supplies.....one small platoon against 1000 men like holy shit....those 100 irishmen u guys kicked ass and honoriable fight to the last bullet....
@filik3131
@filik3131 7 жыл бұрын
I saw the movie also the documentary the best ever troops
@victormoisesgalvan1596
@victormoisesgalvan1596 4 жыл бұрын
They need to do a movie about their fight in the tunnel
@VictorRosez
@VictorRosez 4 жыл бұрын
I was there as a student, living in the country since years... on September 11th just two day before the Morthor fights broke out, my schoolmate walking on my side was shot down by Irish troops on a road block near the Kasenga tunnel at Elisabethville. We were walking home on decision of the high school directors... Until today no single Irish military or their command talked about this incident... They ignored it for 100%... There is even more ... during so many years the Irish government even ignored the presence of another group of POW that surrendered many day before the cease fire.... On September 15th, 1961, I was a witness how 24 Irish soldiers were captured as POW at the avenue Droogmans, near to Radio College (with the participation of Bob Denard and Faulques... I never heard about that story too from Irish side...
@karl_thwub
@karl_thwub 3 жыл бұрын
It was more like 46 Irish soldiers captured at two locations.
@VictorRosez
@VictorRosez 3 жыл бұрын
@@karl_thwub To be exact it were 24 Irish at Elisabethville on September 15 and 152 Irish, 1 swedish and 1 Norvegian at Jadotville on September 17, 1961.
@karl_thwub
@karl_thwub 3 жыл бұрын
@@VictorRosez You've edited the numbers from your original comment. That's a start. As for the death of your friend it is indeed unfortunate and the facts may have been lost in the fog of war. Hundreds were being killed in Elisabethville at that time. The behaviour of Irish UN troops was far better than that of many other UN nations present.
@jackreeder215
@jackreeder215 2 жыл бұрын
@@karl_thwub bombing hospitals of people wanting independence from a communist tyrant isnt good behavior. Those UN soldiers are rotting in hell, worse than the Wehrmacht imo, the Wehrmacht have an excuse of being indoctrinated and conscripted. Viva La Katanga
@karl_thwub
@karl_thwub 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackreeder215 Sure. You're full of shit Jack.
@miraclethehousekid9339
@miraclethehousekid9339 6 жыл бұрын
Hi guys my dad Desmond McKenzie was in the Irish 33rd Battalion that was attacked he past away on the 8/02/18 Has anyone pictures or remember him please
@meshegechmekonen7472
@meshegechmekonen7472 3 жыл бұрын
Your dad was a hero
@patrickmcelroy4312
@patrickmcelroy4312 3 ай бұрын
Uranium. Big drmand for it in 1961 in France & Israel. Triggered a major row in 1963 between DBG and JFK. Norwegians, British and French equipped DBG with the wherewithal. JFK even threatened to invade at one stage DBG resigned in June 1963. JFK went to Dallas. New kings made new rules.
@michaelsdevaney
@michaelsdevaney 4 жыл бұрын
Ireland’s Vietnam forgotten about by the Irish high command betrayed by cruise o brian and the un
@elzorro7of9
@elzorro7of9 2 жыл бұрын
That is a bit lol, of an exaggeration
@MegaMegamann1
@MegaMegamann1 3 жыл бұрын
We spent 800 years not kneeling for the Queen, they showed true Irish fighting spirit, which we're known the world over.
@MichaelKng-fk5jk
@MichaelKng-fk5jk 2 жыл бұрын
Irish troops proudly served both Kings and Queens, still serve the Queen today, especially proud at their history and respect from the other British forces and other nations. If you honestly think what you said is true, basically get back to school. The world has only known Irish soldiers as the fierce warriors they are through the British. The Irish Government and Irish military hid any accolades or bravery of their own Irish troops, that is to be sure a betrayal. Honestly, that says very little for the Nation or, Irish military generally. If you agree or, disagree with the British or, your home nation, maybe you should be respectful of those gallant Irish and British soldiers that have allowed that freedom you enjoy.
@tandemcompound2
@tandemcompound2 6 жыл бұрын
refighting the Battle of the Somme in sub tropical Africa
@ineedmoney121
@ineedmoney121 6 жыл бұрын
"dubh le daoine" = thronged with cheering crowds? ffs boys its not racist
@ergunyildizoglu8018
@ergunyildizoglu8018 5 жыл бұрын
What language apart from english?
@ccody-long6915
@ccody-long6915 4 жыл бұрын
Gailge
@OSTARAEB4
@OSTARAEB4 3 жыл бұрын
Irish.
@nolifemerc3824
@nolifemerc3824 7 жыл бұрын
An Irish man on heat we never experiance heat before lol.....so 2. Norwegian un solderiers speaking english also.
@nickc8729
@nickc8729 3 жыл бұрын
At least the UN would never let down anyone ever again l👀
@kurtbogle2973
@kurtbogle2973 2 жыл бұрын
You can talk about the Gurkhas all you want. No One, and I mean No One wants a fight with the Irish!
@TrueBlueEG8
@TrueBlueEG8 5 жыл бұрын
still not honoured wtf???
@ggggg-h9s
@ggggg-h9s 7 жыл бұрын
Only went to help sad.
@jimweights8908
@jimweights8908 7 жыл бұрын
Eric Watchtower by oppressing people trying for independence? It was imperialism
@cros13
@cros13 7 жыл бұрын
Actually we were there in large part because of our official (and idealistic) policy at the time of assisting in decolonisation. The idea was to try to prevent interference by the two superpowers. Tshombe was a puppet of the US and Lumumba a soviet client. The "independence" movement of the two provinces were backed by France and Belgium, and was in large part driven by the foreign governments, mining companies (mostly french) and belgian settlers. Ireland had little interest in the conflict beyond diplomatic prestige and a genuine belief that we could help. The UN intervention, in a great measure lead by Frank Aiken (Irish minister of External Affairs) and Conor Cruise O'Brien (representing the UN Secretary General), was seeking to restore order under the democratically elected government (Lumumba's) until a more lasting arrangement could be negotiated. I've worked alongside the Irish Defence Forces for many years as a contractor working on C4ISR-related matters. Irish troops spent 40 years and many lives standing between the arabs and israelis in the lebanon, jordan and west bank, trying their best to protect civilians and keep the peace, often attacked by both sides. Irish peacekeepers on the other side of the world in East Timor saved many lives and kept the calm as independence was negotiated and while free, fair democratic election were held for the first time. The reason the UN sends Ireland into these situations is precisely because we have no interests or hidden agenda and can be counted on to be fair and impartial. About 2 years ago I was involved in prepping in secrecy a container of communications equipment for a small advance team of Irish Army intelligence officers who were being deployed to Syria in advance of Irish peacekeepers who were going to be deployed on the basis of a UN resolution to try to prevent Al-Assad from killing his own people. The trucks of equipment were almost ready to leave for the turkish border when ISIS started seizing control in the north-east.
@ggggg-h9s
@ggggg-h9s 7 жыл бұрын
The Irish troops don't see it that way..They thought in all honesty they were there to help..
@taintabird23
@taintabird23 7 жыл бұрын
Wrong, Eric. Katangan independence was instigated by Belgium and French industrial and mining interests and they employed mercenaries to support the break away. This is neo-colonialism at work and the Irish stood against it. The crisis bacame embroiled in Cold War politics and the UN lost its impartiality - certainly in the eyes of the Katangans. The Irish were not responsible for that mess.
@derrickoleary8908
@derrickoleary8908 7 жыл бұрын
Worth noting that Katangan secession was also well supported by Rhodesia and South Africa. The crisis was an unlovely intersection of cold war politics, industrial interests and pan-africanist ideology versus tribalism and, for good measure, the interests of white minority governments in Africa.
@samrussell9264
@samrussell9264 4 жыл бұрын
The UN was hamstrung at birth, as none of the Permament Members of the Security Council (UK, China, France, USSR/Russian Federation, USA) wanted an independent body that would impose sanctions or military peacekeeping. Rather than a united representative of the entire planet of the Idealists, or a sinister all-powerful body of the Conspiracists, the UN is and was a group made up of sencire altruistic individuals, political placemates and cynical beauraucrats, many of which are concerned with internal politcs and national agendas. The Congo was not a conflict that significantly interested any of the Security Council- other than the normal politic and intreigue between its members- and thus the rules placed on the forces under UN control were more flexible. When the Security Council were directly involved ( during Korea China wasn't a member and the USSR was absent) serious restrictions were placed on the UN. In many such conflicts, the UN forces involved ached to use force to prevent the horrors they witnessed, but were hobbled by the Mandates they recieved from the Security Council.
@tldredhistory8391
@tldredhistory8391 2 жыл бұрын
To all those people who call these people cowards I have one thing to say. The United Nations isn't a country like the the United States of America they have rules, guidelines. Do you really expect that something like Korea would happen again without international outrage from the Security Council members? Those who fought in the Congo, and other countries as peacekeepers had two things on their mind, protect and survive one of those things can seem impossible to a normal person. But those who fought with the United Nations did more than just those two things they protected, saved lives, fought, and survived everyday and thought nothing of it. They are heros, and if you call them a coward well you may as well be looking in a mirror.
@jackreeder215
@jackreeder215 2 жыл бұрын
they are rotting in hell, Katanga did nothing wrong and they got invaded for wanting independence.
@tldredhistory8391
@tldredhistory8391 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackreeder215 1. It was ruled by an authoritarian leader. 2. They killed the UN Secretary General during his flight to settle peace in the Congo. 3. The Kindu Massacre 4. Backed by the USSR 5. They used child soldiers 6. And so on The UN force was there to protect the local population. Stop being an arrogant child and do some research before you come to conclusions 👍
@2fewdaysafield
@2fewdaysafield 7 жыл бұрын
The blue hats were unable to deal with the mess in Congo so Mike Hoare and his mostly Belgian, Rhodesian and South African mercenaries did. Blue hats make for good target practice.
@stephen1340c
@stephen1340c 6 жыл бұрын
kris littledale Other way around actually given how the siege of Jadotville turned out.
@nameuser6740
@nameuser6740 5 жыл бұрын
kris littledale Mike was Irish.
@elzorro7of9
@elzorro7of9 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing more disgusting than a mercenary.
@user-dy3tg5fm9w
@user-dy3tg5fm9w 7 жыл бұрын
герои
@stuntv31
@stuntv31 6 жыл бұрын
Really hoped the English would of helped them
@shapesnatch1341
@shapesnatch1341 6 жыл бұрын
stuntv31 you think we'd want help from the british? They our country for hundereds of years. We only got independence in 1949. It's the Americans we'd have want help from.
@tigerspuds
@tigerspuds 5 жыл бұрын
@@shapesnatch1341 6th December 1922
@asdsafasf3
@asdsafasf3 Жыл бұрын
couldnt be bothered with ww2 but colonial fallout? why not
@rogernam2092
@rogernam2092 2 жыл бұрын
The Irish fought on the wrong side..!
@TrueBlueEG8
@TrueBlueEG8 7 жыл бұрын
Ah the good old Yankies there to transport these poor pawns into war.
@DarthNicky
@DarthNicky 7 жыл бұрын
I disagree. They weren't necessarily being sent into war, but sent to attempt to create peace in a very volatile situation.
@TrueBlueEG8
@TrueBlueEG8 7 жыл бұрын
Send in the Irish. Cannon fodder
@DarthNicky
@DarthNicky 7 жыл бұрын
TrueBlueEG8 Hm. Good point. But, Swedish troops were involved in the conflict, and I'm pretty sure the SG of the UN at the time was Swedish, so I doubt he'd send his own countrymen as cannon fodder. I think this operation was solely done in good faith. And I guess the Irish being sent in could be explained as a lack of other resources, as the U.S. was preparing to enter Vietnam as well as in the midst of a Cold War, and was very unlikely to send troops to some place in Africa to help them there. Same thing goes for the the Brits (who were also dealing with the Aden Emergency at this time). and other NATO members.
@TrueBlueEG8
@TrueBlueEG8 7 жыл бұрын
Most people all ready know that this civil war was orchestrated from outside the country. No one was going to keep any peace, the yanks wanted to secure access to one of the richest veins of uranium on earth. It may have been in good faith from the belief of the Irish and Swedish military but there was a definite hidden agenda being pursued
@DarthNicky
@DarthNicky 7 жыл бұрын
TrueBlueEG8 I thought the U.S. was at one point accused of supporting Katanga, which the Irish, Swedish, and Indian peacekeepers were fighting against?
@stuntv31
@stuntv31 6 жыл бұрын
French or cowards and always will be , so pissed off the french fought the irish , but they needed the danish to help them , irish fought alone
@gabrielsandsten7516
@gabrielsandsten7516 6 жыл бұрын
Excuse me but where where the danish mentioned cuz the only Nordic country that was mentioned was Sweden and they where there to help the Irish.
@williamlane292
@williamlane292 6 жыл бұрын
torpar15 sandsten It was French and Danish mercenaries.
@OldSkoolWax
@OldSkoolWax 6 жыл бұрын
The Irish were also helped by Indian troops. Let's no whitewash this shit.
@lifescree6053
@lifescree6053 5 жыл бұрын
@@OldSkoolWax in the end the indians wernt able to help
@lifescree6053
@lifescree6053 5 жыл бұрын
at jadotville anyway
@SanitysVoid
@SanitysVoid 7 жыл бұрын
They were there to oppress Katanga. They should also be ashamed of themselves.
@SanitysVoid
@SanitysVoid 7 жыл бұрын
You should be ashamed of yourself for being under informed. If you look at my videos you can see I am easy to ID so fuck you. Further there is no requirement to post a photo on youtube. I have tried in fact but it's tied to big brother google so fuck google and you too. You assuming ass.
@TomthatiscalledTom
@TomthatiscalledTom 7 жыл бұрын
Katanga was a puppet state of the Belgians and mining companies. Its leaders were gangsters and lackeys of Rhodesia, South Africa (apartheid) and the CIA. You are making propaganda for racists and white supremacists.
@starwarser007
@starwarser007 7 жыл бұрын
TomthatiscalledTom yes and then, was the situation that bad if you compare it to today? Congo went to shit, many old colonies went to shit, today we have to deal with immigration of these countries due to nationalism in these countries, they were never able to put a system in place as strong as western country, so your argument isn't that right either
@karl_thwub
@karl_thwub 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. You were full of s**t four years ago and your full of s**t today.
@SanitysVoid
@SanitysVoid 3 жыл бұрын
@@karl_thwub You have not even addressed your comment to anyone spcifically, try again.
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