Well, i mean, how do you beat eldritch horrors, you follow the rules. There is a reason they arent terrifying Scp has the same thing but worse, the most terrifying monster literally is defeated by people pretending they are torturing someone. The gods literally cant decide, they can only do, so if you do rules around one, they cant even think to harm you.

​@@bobsterclause342if you mean scp 106, they dont pretend to torture. they actually torture.

​@@bobsterclause342 Wich SCP are you refering to?

​@@bobsterclause342 Wich SCP are you referring to?

​@@mrheherdisruptor8975i think he refers to the old man

"I have nothing to wear" [ the locker is shock full of shoes ]

"I have nothing to play" **Library full of games**

"I have nothing to use" -shed full of tools-

"I have no sources to learn from..." Library's honest reaction:

“No one wants to be my friend!” All of my frie- oh wait… that’s ones true

lmfao

Uh, actually. If he suggested it to whatever causes the rapture it would delete them too and drive humanity away from these suggestions.

Max leveled nerd stat

um, actually it's "um" not "uh"

​@@traumatizedgeworth "errrmm actually ☝️🤓"

universe wins

@@LordComradeAnarchoCapitalus agreed

We would win

​@@LordComradeAnarchoCapitaluslies

@@cr1tikal_arcthat sounds like universe propaganda. Humans top.

"As long as there's people left on the planet, someone's gonna want someone dead" - Sniper from TF2 watch as humanity discover that the weird plants and creatures that exist in the blood moon becomes "better" when they consume human blood instead of the blood from the oceon... can't wait for the humanity extinction speedrun

i mean there arent any planets left@@wolverdep4739

@@wolverdep4739 but the blood oceans *are* human blood

​@@wolverdep4739most of them are doing exactly that rn Sadly I probably wouldn't be alive to see the calamity unfold

@@tinkyshugetoesI meant like, somehow blood that came from human instead of the ocean (even if its chemically the same) made the lifeforms stronger/evolve idk, this is a horror game. they have alot of thing going on and I find it interesting

Eat the fish

​@@unoriginalperson72breed the fish

​@@NiCoNiCoNiCola Interesting proposal, how?

@@quirinoguy8665 just let them live together, feed them with some unwanted people from the colonies and they'll eventually choose a breeding ground. Just keep watch of the offspring so it'll grow and eventually become adults, repeat the process till you have a fish army. Why? I dunno, I think it would be cool

I thought you meant that in a different way but I’m pleasantly surprised

Unlimited source of Black Pudding, enough iron to make a sword, this game is weak sauce.

@@BlueEyedVibeCheckera sword? *A* sword? Brother how big is this sword

​@@engi.2one as black as a goddamn pudding

Mean while in a Taiwanese head: If only we have some rise to make blood cake.

Exactly

Exactly that. And btw its not survivable, I doubt the three, currently at war, space stations with a population of a couple of thousands combined could even find a supernova or a dwarf star in empty space, even if they could and had the resources to get there they would have to have the resources to mine, extract AND turn whatever they found into something useful. Not to mention the obvious that even assuming they could do that the resources required are unbelievably more than the resources produced by such processes. Everyone is fucked, dont get raptured

@@bredsheeran9453 You ignore the fact that they are in a space station which means they clearly have some way of traveling throughout space.

The title doesn’t say that it isn’t bleak, only not AS bleak as people think

If you've ever had a bad nosebleed, this is like living inside that. No thanks.

so basically vita carnis but on a whole new level

​@@jackthulborn5448 what? what made you even think of that?

That atmosphere doesn’t necessarily have to be oxygen/nitrogen. The blood and living things also don’t necessarily have to have chemically similar biology to us

i think it said something about the blood not coagulating, i forgot though

@@daltongarrett3393It does, the blood is specifically said to be chemically identical to human blood. Although, presence of geothermal activity doesn’t mean it isn’t freezing on the surface, which it probably is, so its probably not habitable without some shelter. However, the blood can for sure be extracted and consumed either directly or by feeding its minerals as plant fertilizer, so it’d still be pretty nice

Alpharad fan?

​@@slidemguy he gives us facts and logic and yet they reject him

SPEEDRUNNERS HATE HIM

Speed runners are not human in canon, they are something else entirely. They can defy the laws of physics​@@abdelnajjar8191

Ace Attorney ?

Humans tend to act more rationally when death is what happens if they dont act rationally

Human?? Rationality?? Lmao

There were many extraneous words in that sentence More like "It would require humans to act rationally for periods of time."

Getting enough time and resources to act irrationally means acting rationally every now and then

@@baxterbruce9827 bros promoting illiteracy 💀 (but yea i sorta agree, its sounds like a run on sentence).

Then people after sushi meals start to morph into funny fish

Then we eat the funny fish and the circle of life continues. Like delicious cannibalism with extra steps.

"You're gonna die" "Well ,Actually..."

I was actually about to comment this because of how “letter of the law not spirit” his “debunk” is.

the real way to survive iron lung is to argue semantics out loud so that whatever deity was feeling annoyed the day of the quiet rapture gives you back some of your celestial bodies

lmao

Good strawman but he talks about hypotheticals at first and then gets at the literal free food that you are visiting

​@@outspadeLmfaoo

​@terrariangolden6985 doesn't change the fact that whatever got rid of stars and planets broke the law of physics, so why should it care what we define as stars and planets?

in deep ocean it was the opposite, animals because there are less foods and its cold animals are larger than normal because they need to store more energy to find food and lose less heat.

If you have a source of energy, you can just grow crops with hydroponics and recycle wastewater back into the system. There's plenty of raw resources (blood, comet ice, etc) to replace anything lost, and making a fully sustainable biosphere isn't really that hard for an interstellar civilization. The most dangerous part of this scenario would be the weeks immediately after the rapture, where everyone depending on planet exports needs to quickly start becoming self sufficient using existing technology before the food runs out.

Realistically, it's easy enough to extract plasma from blood with a simple centrifuge that they'd most likely have in a space station if we're going off the fact that they had 300 years of progress after colonizing planets. The reason it seems plausible that people on space stations would have far better tech than we do even on any facility on earth today, and in a more compact form, is because as of the mid~late 90's Ironlung's human population had begun colonizing other planets. 300 years later when everything goes to shit our space stations would probably be more akin to actual sci-fi space cities that have some capacity for interstellar travel. Many sci-fi scenarios that deal with space tend to have stuff like that so it's not absurd to think they could have something like that in Ironlung. On top of that a lot of the assumptions that the "average joe" wouldn't know how to do the things necessary all comes down to the actual world of Ironlung itself as there are quite a few sci-fi scenarios where even the children tend to have a basic knowledge of advanced technology that'd put a genius scientist today to shame. Also, the simple fact that Ironlung says that there are absolutely no natural resources left in the universe is a joke when there are moons that contain blood oceans and some form of life. That stuff is by definition a natural resource, including the moon itself. Overall, it's a shitty situation but if the people of Ironlung could put down their weapons for like... 5 minutes they could probably figure something out. Hell, just colonize one of the moons with a blood ocean and use that as a base to rebuild a bit and explore the "empty" space looking for more blood oceans or something else to utilize.

@@Bookslayer10 There isn't anything in the game stating the spaceships have crops or any sort of seeds. The Eden station is specifically noted as having the last known trees in the universe since it has an interior garden.

@@FreyR_Kunn “has the only known remaining trees in its interior garden.” Is the exact wording. This phrasing, since it makes no effort to make the existence of the garden sound like the anomaly, but instead the fact that it has and can support trees, leads me to find it reasonable that gardens are not an Eden exclusive. Given that we are decades in to the aftermath of The Quite Rapture, it is also reasonable to believe that all stations have a food source that is capable of feeding people, but not current population numbers… most likely a garden that was meant for scientific purposes and not full scale agricultural harvesting. I find this very plausible, as 20+ years of food is an insane thing to expect a space station to have, even with the most frugal of rationing. Now they got blood and basic farm goods…. That’s basically 1/10th of the English diet. They’ve got this in the bag!

@@FreyR_Kunn It really depends on how technologically advanced the setting is. If interstellar transport is a thing, then there are likely ways to recycle waste and raw materials into edible food without crops. Still, with how expensive shipping food to space is, I doubt there wouldn't be at least a few algae farms or hydroponic facilities, even if there aren't things as expensive as trees.

There are already creatures living in it. How bad it can really be? Besides I'll take eating eldritch space blood over starvation any day.

@@simulacrumpilot2777 The creatures:

wasnt it proved by the coi that it was indeed human blood?

​@@simulacrumpilot2777 So we are opposites my dude, as I would shot myself before putting any kind of Eldritch substance inside my body. Even more so if it is human blood that is located on a moon, and that appeared after all the stars and planets in the universe had disappeared.

filtering it and separating the water from all the other chemicals in it is probably what he meant

Ya that might put a bit of a spanner in the works

It bugs me how these 'grimdark' settings, especially ones that go out of their way to make the situation bad, pile even _more_ stuff on top to be like 'nuh-uh, you _can't_ survive!'. It's like... what's the point? If there's no possible way to do anything meaningful, then it doesn't mean anything. The only interesting part is why any of that happened in the first place, but then... what does knowing that do? If everyone's doomed, then risking lives to figure it out is pointless. Maybe it's meant to be a more 'positive' thing, to say that people will try and learn no matter what, even with limited, dwindling resources and an impossible situation. It's like SCP. They keep throwing bigger and 'scarier' things at us, and then closing 'loopholes' to keep people from having any sense of control or comfort, despite that being the entire point of the project to begin with.

​@@DonnaPinciot yeah it's kinda dumb, clearly its not been made for logical thinking

@@DonnaPinciot Almost like that's what grimdark means and is primarily focused on? It's usually intended to tell us that no matter how highly we think of ourselves and our advancements, we are ultimately a small part of an infinitely vast universe which does not care about that. If there was a way for humanity to pull itself up by its bootstraps it wouldn't be grimdark, and it would be significantly less effective cosmic horror.

@@DonnaPinciot There isn't meant to be hope in a grimdark story. That's what grimdark is. I don't even like grimdark, but your entire take is kind of like disliking ice cream for it being sweet. Like, yeah, I guess it is. I'm surprised twenty two other sentient human beings followed your take without question. You aren't even saying anything. It's just true. Although the take on SCP is much more palatable. I wish more SCP's were just oddities nowadays.

Thank you, you worded it beautifully

Authors: threw humanity into worst esoteric shit they can imagine Humans: "Nah, i'd adapt"

Those fish live so deep in the ocean that you need a submarine just to reach them. I don’t think you’re gonna be able to fish them out with a rod or a net, especially if they’re strong enough to tear through an iron submarine

​@@user-cd5fm3hh9k no matter were I go... Lobotomy Kaisen always follows.

​@@user-cd5fm3hh9k "Life, eh, finds a way"

​@@cedric15773 hunting fishing lets gooo

Makes you wonder why they'd have such a crap submarine _before_ the apocalypse. Even OceanGate's sub didn't look that primitive inside.

Iirc, the entries on the computer imply the one we pilot was one of a series specifically made to imprison/kill off convicts and PoW from their conflict with the Martians, so it should be actually a good indicator of their current industrial abilities

@@kluevo theres also the one paper note you find on the floor but thats probably just them resourcefully using garbage as apposed to making the submarine specifically as an execution chamber, since if they had infrastructure they could just build a new sub that automatically shuts off it's life support after going underwater... and also doesnt need to be welded shut and cut back open every single trip

@@edenengland1883 there's also a hidden picture of wreckage from an actual sub which had scientists and reaserchers on it, nothing like the sub you're in

Ocean Gate probably made it

There's literally a pool of blood; you can get oxygen from there.

They colonized the moon in the 90s im sure the space faring civilization has some sort of resource gathering method eitherwise why whould you create an space station if it cant survive on its own

Yup. With that I can agree. Even if total extinction might be avoidable in Iron Lung's setting, humans will still be living in awful life conditions nonetheless.

Yeah but in Warhammer there's a chance you're born on a Knight World and live your life as a happy farmer who has probably never heard of a Tyranid in his life and is guarded by millenia old war robots. Or one of the MANY OTHER relatively normal planets in the Imperium...

the trillions of tyranids surrounding the galaxy:

Mushrooms will also eat bones, bones are plenty, feed the mushroom and mushroom will feed you. That could work as another setting for a different game lol.

Praise mushroom. hail mushroom. mushroom is all. Let mushroom consume you. Wait what are we talking about-?

@@binarycode404 The goddess of rot and her many domains consuming the last hidden domain of the blood god.

@@emeraldplayer5635 goddess of rot, goddess of life. Giver of the best blessing and worst curse, the one that we need to both respect and overcome.

@@mechaSurge Praise be the red mushrooms!

Yes

i think this video is insane bruh

@@childofgod759watch more Isaac Arthur

We don't know much of the specific details of humanity's technology and infrastructural conditions in this timeline, so we can only go by hypotheticals.

@@mekingtiger9095 If technology kept growing at the exponential rate it did nowadays pre-Rapture we def would be capable of doing allat

They're far far into the future. With technology anythings possible pretty much

The real problem with world hunger is actually the distribution, not the lack of food; we can actually feed all of humanity multiple times over, given our current food production. The only reason there are people even starving right now is because food is not making it to their plates, either because they're paywalled from accessing food, or the infrastructure for sustainable feeding is absent in some areas.

Yeah a lot of the plot holes people seem to think there are in this premise come entirely from the (probably false) assumption that the humans that are left are a-okay and have all the resources to mine and purify what's around them

If they were confined to the solar system then how would they know that all stars and planets everywhere vanished? Think for a moment before typing.

​@@zephyr8072They probably saw the stars of nearby systems wink out over the course of the 21 years. There's a number of them less than 21 light years away from us.

@@Ilias2 That still would only be a determination of the local group going out. Scientific analysis is precise. Nobody would make such a sweeping declaration as all stars in the galaxy vanishing if there wasn't some evidence to back it up. If all the evidence was that Sol and nearby stars vanished then that's what they would say. It would certainly be _possible_ that all stars and planetary bodies everywhere would follow the observed pattern, but it wouldn't be definitive fact since it's just as possible that it's a phenomenon restricted to a certain area of space.

That's also assuming that humanity has ships capable of near speed of light travel. Closest protostars are more than ~460 light years away and the closest nebula is 700 light years away. Meanwhile all the asteroids and moon are going to fly in the opposite directions due to the Sun no longer pulling everyone together. The rapture happened during the first mars mission which means that they don't have anything near that.

Yep, not to mention the supernatural element. We don't actually know what's IN the blood oceans or if they're even being held there by natural means.

People can find happiness in the smallest of things. Once the memories of better times blur they'll probably live life just like us but with more of a focus on living every day to the fullest as it can be your last.

​@@DJ-fb9cftf you mean supernatural its a giant frog fish not Count Dracula

In reality, such a low number of people in such a bad situation would probably work together much better than the setting suggests. In warzones the civilian population usually helps each other as much as they can, and I would think the same would apply here. And that war in the lore probably wouldn't happen. If you are a leader of millions of people it's fairly easy to convince them to go to war, but if you only have a thousand or so people, and that's half of the actual human population, that war sh1t would be shut down pretty fast and the warmongering leader would quickly find himself in one of those submarines.

so.... we get shape shifting and inmortality? how is that a bad thing

@@roxas5071 I take back everything I just said. Nevermind your right.

@@Sean-hn1vtand we don’t have to care about sunlight

@@dougwark6150 YEAH ITS NOT LIKE WE HAVE ONE

Just gotta cook it. It’s not like they’d be drinking it raw

It's made on the assumption that humanity has the tech to get what it needs. A good allegory would be explaining to bogno the caveman that he won't die of thirst because he can convert seawater to freshwater with a basic distillery, meanwhile Bogno no know how smart man want make drink drink from death water.

Not really. It's not any more technical than that. It's just brute force at this point.

Ehm...isnt the solution just "make it really hot"?

​@@azariyelvarro6271Which is a worthless assumption, because there's no proof of it whatsoever, especially given the sort of technology he is 'expecting' to be available is orders of magnitude more advanced than what is commonly seen in sci-fi, and especially visual sci-fi.

@@azariyelvarro6271 And humanity in that universe certainly had that technology... but it most likely was on Earth or Mars.

I mean, it's not _quite_ what you're looking for, but Frostpunk might be able to scratch that itch; at the very least, it certainly hits the whole "entropy is inevitable, and you can only avoid it for so long" vibe of heat death.

Outer wilds

Outer wilds, although it's more exploration than survival.

@@jamesruth100 more the opposite of *heat* death, but still it has that same "the end is nigh" feeling

@@cabrinius7596 I think you might be confused on what heat death is. Heat death is when entropy finally wins and there's no more heat in the entire universe; it's the death _of_ heat, not a death _by_ heat. The entire universe would be at absolute zero (-459.67°F / -273.15°C / 0°K).

Introducing:ultrakill

I ONLY SAY MORNING.

Iron Lung: 5-S

This is where the Size 2 fish lives.

Modified bussard's engine?

@@jimmcneal5292 According to Google, the highest estimate for the density of a planetary nebula is about 10,000 particles per cm^3. If you build a collector with an effective area of 100x100m (10km^2), and assuming the nebula is 1 light year across (let's assume uniform density for simplification, that 100% of the particles you encounter are hydrogen molecules, and let's also optimistically assume you capture 100% of the particles you encounter), you would capture at most 9.46x10^23 hydrogen molecules. This sounds like a lot, but is about 1.5 grams of hydrogen. Feel free to check my maths, I may have made a mistake. I'm rather prone to them ;)

​@@jimmcneal5292 For some reason my original reply was autodeleted by KZfaq. According to Google, the maximum density of a planetary nebula is about 10,000 particles per cm, and are generally about a light year across. Let's make some assumptions for simplicity's sake; uniform density, you optimistically capture 100% of the particles you interact with, and 100% of the particles are ionised hydrogen molecules (H, not H2). If we imagine a collector with an effective area of 100x100m, every cm of travel it would capture 1,000,000 particles. 1 light year is 9.461x10^17 cm, so over 1 light year you would capture 9.461x10^23 molecules of hydrogen. This is about 1.5 moles, or 1.5 grams, of hydrogen. Feel free to check my maths, I could've made a mistake, I am rather prone to them ;)

@@jimmcneal5292 ​ For some reason my replies keep getting autodeleted. According to Google, the maximum density of a planetary nebula is about 10,000 particles per cm, and are generally about a light year across. Let's make some assumptions for simplicity's sake; uniform density, you optimistically capture 100% of the particles you interact with, and 100% of the particles are ionised hydrogen molecules (H, not H2). If we imagine a collector with an effective area of 100x100m, every cm of travel it would capture 1,000,000 particles. 1 light year is 9.461x10^17 cm, so over 1 light year you would capture 9.461x10^23 molecules of hydrogen. This is about 1.5 moles, or 1.5 grams, of hydrogen.

​ @jimmcneal5292 For some reason my replies keep getting autodeleted by KZfaq. According to Google, the maximum density of a planetary nebula is about 10,000 particles per cm, and are generally about a light year across. Let's make some assumptions for simplicity's sake; uniform density, you optimistically capture 100% of the particles you interact with, and 100% of the particles are ionised hydrogen molecules (H, not H2). If we imagine a collector with an effective area of 100x100m, every cm of travel it would capture 1,000,000 particles. 1 light year is 9.461x10^17 cm, so over 1 light year you would capture 9.461x10^23 molecules of hydrogen. This is about 1.5 moles, or 1.5 grams, of hydrogen. Feel free to check my maths, I could've made a mistake, I am rather prone to them ;)

.....until they leave the black hole and realize that what made the stars disappear is also disappearing with any new star that is born.

Sounds like Interstellar

sounds exactly like interstellar.

murph

@@FennKitFox in interstellar they wanted to avoid time dilation as much as possible, they already had planets they could go and populate and so just because it is a movie with time dilation does not mean it is exactly the same

Yessir

"the universe is vast and bleak, but my will is limitless and unyielding."

Using the Blood Oceans isn't some semantics. It's a perfectly logical conclusion anyone with half a working brain could've come up with.

@@simulacrumpilot2777 well, maybe use your half to look up what semantics are before commenting

@@quasar9768 I can use mine thank you very much you should try to use yours sometimes. Semantics The study of discussing the meaning/interpretation of words or groups of words within a certain context; usually in order to win some form of argument. Which is was NOT how the blood ocean argument was, at all. You can only claim it was just semantics to the black hole/Nebula part.

​@@simulacrumpilot2777 Original comment: "*sees cool premise* *looks inside* -semantics" Your comment: ".....You can only claim it was just semantics to the black hole/Nebula part." You know that you just confirmed the original comment of being correct, right.

@@viniciushenrique6672 The original comment is saying it as if the guy only used semantics throughout this whole video to justify his points. When in reality the semantics are just bonus additional optimism and that even without the semantics, in the most bleakest form of the story with just the moons and asteroids and blood oceans, the game isn't that bleak.

You basically repeated his correct statements

@@CaseyC-bg4bb Essentially yes. I was supporting our host's statements with metaphors further illustrating his points, and kind of making a joke. Feel free to ignore it.

@CreepyPersonCube. well that's impossible now seeing how I already made a comment that you responded to lol

Can we consider the idea that _humanity inevitably in perpetual war_ is *unrealistic?*

@@Gelatinocyte2 Not sure if you're being sarcastic... but yes, we can very much consider that unrealistic in any setting with a finite supply - and also any setting without a finite supply. It's as "immortan" artist Tina turner said, "Don't wanna fight, sometimes you got to..."

That would be horrific still but at the same time really comforting-at least the bulk of humanity survived, albeit with a large amount of space paranoia.

Lmao, that would be a funny plot twist, albeit entirely ruining the horror proposition of the setting.

@@mekingtiger9095 how? It’s just as if not more horrifying x

@@Rofflestomper Because as you said, there would be comfort in knowing most of humanity is still alive in a parallel universe. It ruins the mistery and a big part of the cosmic horror intended for the setting.

@@mekingtiger9095 And how would that make it any less horrifying. Hey somehow there is some power in the universe that can transport us into another dimension on a whim. Or an alternate dimension where nothing exist that can take people from our own dimension. How is that not horrifying.

Not quite. I'm pretty sure there are cheap tricks to achieve those things, I'm just too lazy going over any of them.

For real.

british gamer jk

Fr. Ultimate death

Average discord mod.

so they found *4* blood oceans blindly just in the solar system?

@@ArcticCN yea nasa tracks moons. also they still have the Satellite to track moons

@@ArcticCN we also have fuel to get to moons in the Satellite and other things we have in orbit

Well that sucks.

​@@rustinhaigoodno stars mean no light, and the planets disappeared, meaning that NASA did too

Put one factorio fan in iron lung and society will be rebuilt in a week.

​@@SlormpingtonHow about a Dyson Sphere Program pla---Oh

@@Slormpington That could actually be an interesting mod. Extract resources from the blood, fend off hordes of creatures coming from the sea, and build a space ship to explore and get what remains of resources from elsewhere.

@@Slormpington As a factorio player this is 100 percent true

@@DonnaPinciot fun part of it is... you are in complete darkness

if you were looking up advice to get out of that situation then my condolences it's not happening

Pray to chutulu As the concept is rapture in space so-

Not me.

I thought I was going to get a video about the lore, but instead got a basic astronomy lesson

​@@paladin2021Try Pyrocynicals video on it. I think he sums it up rather nicely.

*I give you stone, you give me rock.*

For Karl!

ultrakill 5-S level

Is this a cruelty squad spin off?

@@dhans2881 frog? obtained

nah

@@jamestheBlainerificblainleyfan incredible counter argument

@@froginabucket7294 *🪑

​@@jamestheBlainerificblainleyfan Thank your for your insightful remark, James Dean The Blainerific Fan!

@@KysEcstacy Np

Just because its bleak doesn't make it unsurvivable

@@crowbirdryuell Just because it's unsurvivable doesn't make it a setting

"Not as bleak of a setting" As in that it’s bleak, but less then how it’s advertised, the setting of Iron Lung is basically a lore specifically made to make you think there is no hope left, only borrowed time, while this guy is trying to explore the possibilities that could make it less hopeless

"Not as bleak" As in there is more hope than the game let's on, even if it's still bleak.

Ngl i didn't see the "as" in the title lol

Like he said, if they had mars bases by 1992, they might have ways to travel to those planets within a reasonable period of time

what are you talking about, the most advanced thing this society created is a shitty submarine@@Kilometer-nz5yj

@@Kilometer-nz5yj "I have no proof but I think it could happen so it's basically proof" As for counter-proof, they cant even make a submarine survive basic depths, so how are they gonna be advanced enough to travel light years without dying?

@@trustytrest True

It doesn't have to be millions of light years even. Proxima Centauri is a little over 4 light years away. That's 3.8x10^16 meters Or 38000000000000000 meters in non-scientific notation. At the speed of light, just to get there, you'll need supplies for four years. You'll also need to slow down at the halfway mark, essentially doubling the travel time. Not much good to get to a place if you then impact with it at the speed of light. So over 8 years of supplies simply for travel time, just to the closest known extrasolar objects, if you can even reach the speed of light in this universe. Clearly that's not as simple as "just fly to an asteroid and mine out all the good stuff." This isn't space engineers.

They set convicts to moons randomly

​@@l0rf You'd actually need less supplies than for 8 years inside your ship if you're traveling that close to the Speed of Light due to time dilation. But to comoensate for that, you better have an IMMENSE source of energy to get to that speed to begin with.

@mekingtiger9095 wouldn't you still experience 8 years of time passing? Admittedly, I've yet to travel at light speed so I think you might be correct there and the felt time is shorter than the time passing for an outside observer would appear to be. And I fully agree that I overestimate the resource need for food and spare parts and clothes and so on, but nothing in game indicated that this humanity was even able to carry with energy on their ships to travel at FTL or lightspeed.

@@l0rf Yeah, from the perspective of the crew inside the ship, very little time would have passed as them being so close to the Speed of Light would mean their time passes very slowly from an outside perspective. From _their_ perspective they'd feel like the Universe's lenght would have been shortened to allow to get into places in just "a few steps" and then come back to normal upon deaccelerating. But during the process of initial acceleration they'd see time outside the ship accelerating to an enormous degree into the future (General Relativity). I'd recommend looking into the Twin's Paradox to get a better idea of how this works.

Yeah, clickbait title. The game universe is exactly as bleak as I thought

@@SapkaliAkif I don't think it's clickbait bc he actually believes it himself. I just disagree, but it doesn't make it clickbait

well its likely that they do have a technology capable of doing something like that as 1 they survived 300 years 2 they were able to colonize Mars in 1992 3 asteroids and such are much smaller then a planet so again its pretty likely that they would be able to mind the iron from le funni space rocks as for refining them you may have a point if it wasnt for the fact they can make subs and yk have an industry/ way to refine the materials to make the subs i dunno if u just didnt watch the video or something but like man do better

​@@whyza0428 the subs are made from scraps. They arent able to refine anything. Thats why the sub is so rusted and bad.

Actually you are under estimating it As due to lack of gravity stuff gets easier you don't need to do something you can just send drones

Yeah!

clearly they do if they can just send convicts wherevever

@@waffleboy9273 if they could then they wouldnt be sending convicts

@@waffleboy9273 Convicts on 1-way missions?

Mfw inertia and gravity boost from asteroids. If it has mass it has gravity.

Nah thats not true

in the game, it's mentioned you CAN still see the light from the far away stars, it's even in the ending text crawl after you die. i do still agree that the situation is supernatural, because well, obviously

Don't they have fusion in the game? Infinite energy buys you a lot of leeway

@@32BitJunkie where did you hear that

@@cornboi3227Stars that aren’t there can still “admit light/be there” bc light takes time to travel to our location. Even in our world, if a star dies twenty years ago but it takes the light from that star thirty years to get here, it’ll take thirty years from the date it imploded for us to notice it is gone.

You're the type of dude to hate on people for having harmless fun

@@themilkdealer1 Mad lmao

@man8483 And? is that supposed to invalidate my point, or are you just angry that I called you out for being uneccesarily rude?

​@themilkdealer1 do you see the irony of commenting that on someone's harmless joke

@@batata4427 no I don't, because his intent was to be rude you silly goose.

At least your honest, unlike a lot of people. Cause lets be real, if push comes to shove, that soylent green is looking mighty tasty.

yeah, you lose more energy than you get by extracting hydrogen from water

the white dwarves planets would stop existing too though

Bro who are you the iron lung police? Why so salty?

@@joelatimer2116 Nothing "salty" about their comment. They are stating pretty reasonable ideas that the video may have gotten wrong. Do you always need to find something to bitch about?

@@joelatimer2116 I care about factual and scientific accuracy. This video seems to be based on science, even if it’s not perfect in its execution.

Brown dwarves are gas giants lol

⁠@@nahbynot really they have a fusion reaction happening meaning that they can’t be definded and a planet

@@nahby No they are not. They classified as substellar objects, or substars.

Yes cumulus he worded it wrong, what he meant is if light takes a billion years to travel somewhere, so will gravity as a result. Or the lack of gravity. So we wouldn’t see and feel the effects for a looong time, when the universe around us has already somehow died! Scary

Brown dwarves are failed stars that are a huge disappointment to their parents.

Black holes and nebula still exist

@@daniiii888 Neither of which are stars

​@@daniiii888 and neither of them are that helpful

​​@@AstralShotBlack holes are infinite energy sources for as long as you have mass to throw at them because of the accretion disk, very useful

@@TheCappucinochannel-os4ne with no clear access to them at all?? it's clear that the COI basically have 2 rust filled submarines and a small amount of living space... IN SPACE, like if they could just tp to black holes and nebulars then there'd be no rusty submarines!

“Not the best” captions are leagues above no captions

Resistance is futire.

​@@n3r3sh77it's just common sent

applaud the effort and can only wish you luck dude

pal, dont get me wrong here, but i thought that videos require script, so why not just use it as captions? there is even shit that will do this for you - just paste your script and audio track in it nice vid btw, just needs a couple more passes on research and script

“the consolidation of iron, or c.o.i, is a brotherhood of three space stations and two spacecrafts”

@@MichealFelk "light years away"

@@rustinhaigood If they formed a nation together, they definitely have FTLs, in fact if humans have been colonising space since the 90s everyone definitely has FTLs

Who knows? We could have a nation on the moon without ftl's. The sheer tiny scale too doesn't really help either.​@@MichealFelk

@@magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479 If humanity had the technology to colonise Mars in the 90s, and have been exploring space ever since, there must be some form of FTL. Maybe wormholes, maybe Star Wars FTLs, maybe they use black holes as sling shots, maybe they use space dragons. But they definitely have some way of travelling through space on a human life time, in fact if they don’t have FTLs they’re better off. If they don’t have FTLs they must be using some form of sleeper ships so they have the technology to preserve themselves and resources for literally millions of years. Or they developed self sustaining ships, in which case the Quiet Rapture made them depressed, but they would other wise be perfectly fine. But they certainly aren’t acting perfectly fine, so they have limited resources, so they weren’t expected to stay in space for long periods of time, so they don’t use sleeper ships or similar designs. So they were expected to go through space in a shorter time span, so they have FTLs, so his argument holds up.

Seperate the blood into it’s smallest parts and into different chemicals, wouldn’t that fix it? Well, then again that‘s science and simple logic vs. Supernatural shit 💀

I think the biggest problem in this universe is the societies surrounding it.

Are you sure? Half the video is built on pedantry about what is and is not a star, and on what the game means by all stars and planets being gone. Based on the implications of the game, half of the stellar objects he postulates about wouldn’t exist either.

​@@EvilFuzzy9 who cares? Free blood n fish!

Except almost everything in the game suggests that they have very little resources to do anything. The sub they send is probably its last and probably scraped from other pieces of the ship and other subs. They have little to no industry no matter what ship they have because there is so little left. The game itself implies the desperate nature with its own title Iron Lung, something artificial keeping something organic diseased and crippled alive and prolonging its own suffering. Humanity is suffering and everything they've tried does not work its simply too far gone.

@@richardfloss832 wahh wahh wahhhh

“Umm simply go to a nebula and harvest all the hydrogen!!” This is a hilariously pop-culture version of science. It’s like the guy was informed solely by Reddit and KZfaq shorts.

@@9volt65 lmao exactly how I felt watching this

This is a scifi setting, so it only fair to use scifi solutions that honestly arent even that crazy. An ocean of blood and the actual rapture is infinitely more crazy and fantastical than harvesting nebulas. Should have focused more on the blood, i agree, but your drawing the line in an odd place here.

​​@@9volt65this is literally a sci-fi world. Those "scrap ships" are able to wage war at each other, may or may not have FTL travel, and even if they don't that's just one of the options they have. It's just a thesis about how it's _possible_ to survive in Iron Lung universe in long term, especially with the technology they probably have, feasible or not is another thing entirely. Even without nebulas, dark holes and whatnot it's still possible to survive with just a blood moon, which was stated in the video. Life would just suck.

​@@turkeygod6665A rapture in the religious sense would have had nothing to do with the universe's physical laws. Traditionally in christianity, the world has always been described mechanistically, where miracles are things that are explicitly impossible within that framework.

Well people like you would rather piss and shit themselves and cry about how everything sucks.

Better thought out response than what you vomited up.

​@@YaGirlGumptionwait im confused. are you saying that arnoclaesen8105's comment is a better response than what he just vomited up? because that literally makes no sense. your implying that his comment is better than his own comment. the other option is that you think the guy in the video is saying a better response than arnoclaesen8105, which also makes no sense because arnoclaesen8105 is basically paraphrasing what the guy in the video said. it is objectivly true that in the universe of iron lung, all planets and stars are gone. it is also true that the creator of this video described to us how and why they could/should harvest the energy from a supernova. i feel like you didnt even watch the video. like who are you talking to here make it make sense

@@sampsqwantch4612 I'm talking about the video, you dip.

Not hard. Get some solar panels for power, make big coils out of copper and fly through. They’re made of gas and can be scooped up with a large enough magnetic field. This is an actual concept that has been in thought since as far back as the 60s.

I think they mean rocket fuel, seperating water into oxygen and hydrogen and reacting them together with heat for combustion

​@@hfso372Again though you'd need energy to separate them into those parts, and the energy you'd get from burning them is the same or less than what it takes to split them

Bro thought he discovered the infinite energy glitch

maybe just use a water hose and newton's third law?

@@jeremychicken3339 still doesn't work sadly

It does raise the question: What counts as 'on a planet' to disappear? Is it being within the atmosphere? Because that thing just kinda gets thinner the further away you are. And what would that mean for objects on planest without an atmosphere? Is it things affixed to the surface? Would there be loads of cars and stuff just floating in a vaguely spherical area in the general vicinity of Earth? If it's about being in _contact_ with the ground (Which is a collection of loose particles anyway, not a solid), would there be birds and planes randomly in the area? Or did 'god' just pick a radius around each planet and go 'yeah, that seems right' and hit 'delete'?

@@DonnaPinciot I imagine it’s a radius just large enough to delete everything on the planet, like the top of the Mount Everest is the edge of the radius

Honestly this scenario would be just as terrifying, as it means there is some supernatural force that is actively preventing mankind from leaving Earth.

@@tobywatson9351Either that or one day all of the humans on spaceships and space ships blooped out of existence one day. Doesn’t stop humans from going back out but I’d reckon humans might keep themselves on planet, afraid of what’s out there. Also I do like the idea of the people in the spaceships and stations just being teleported to deep space or being teleported to another universe with the same basic rules or time traveling to the heat death of the universe. It means they might be able to find a way back home. Or show humanity’s ability to thrive even when our home world is ripped away from us.

the blood oceans are made of human blood iirc. so...

nah

Na, it’s telling people to use the salt water after we run out of fresh water

@@duckpotat9818 Nah its telling people how to fix there broken radio, but having same people shit and piss themselves and tell you everything sucks.

If quiet rapture is a constant removing, then the blood oceans still wild provide some respite, but ya constant rapture is a bit rough

via... what matter? it gets poofed out of existence, and stars and planets form out of the material and energy left behind by other stars and planets

@@fionaton179 If nebulas and moons stille xist in the universe, stars will form again like nobodys business

@@potocalter6207 if that "best type scenario" is on iron lung, it would take a shit ton of time to have some light again because most of the newly formed stars are really close to the center of the galaxy and it doesn't seem that humanity has traveled that far so... in a billion years they could get some light

That's incorrect, it's only 7 stars per year in the Milky Way.

Bro has no idea how much extra matter you would need to send random convicts to random moons

That too! Like wtf

@@nobodyimportant4778 are you replying you to me? Or yourself?

I mean, they found multiple blood oceans on moons, looks like they are finding them pretty quickly even when space is empty

​@neerajnandan3519 prob not hard to notice the only remaining things when everything else is straight up gone.

True

I don't think it's written as a punishment for humans in general at all considering so many things disappeared, it seems to be written more as a "what if?". Yes, the specific human we play as was send to die for unknown reasons as a punishment by the other surviving humans, but that's only one.

One hundred? Sorry, that's TOO LOW. They have freakin research teams, coalitions, terminals and etc. That's at least several thousands worth of people. Nobody would do such stuff as sending people in a rusty cans to death and waging wars with 100 people OVERALL. Everything hints at somewhat big population, not a 100 people world.

@@shawermus there is two factions fighting for survival and one "research" team. You take everything in the world at face value when it's clearly meant to be the desperate attempts of a dying race. Again, humans fucked up and are pretty much in hell, that's the whole point of the thing. Hopefully the films focus more on this and less on markiplier himself.

@@namelessnocebo Nah, humans would win.

when it comes to space tech, welding scrap together should be enough it's much easier for shoddy construction to work when there's no weather or appreciable gravity the big question is going to be whether they can refine a fissible element (or can build fusion reactors which would solve everything) if so, they survive easily, if not, their only sustainable source of power early on would come from fermenting blood (as even burning methane requires oxygen which takes energy to extract from oxides) and I wouldn't be as sure of whether they can survive