Irshad Manji debates Islamic reform with the host of Head to Head, Mehdi Hasan.
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@AR-fj7km3 жыл бұрын
"I can argue with 10 knowledgeable people but I will definitely lose to an ignorant person, because the ignorant person never understands the path of knowledge" - Imam Syafie.
@danielaitken14593 жыл бұрын
Hmmm so ironic how there are so many verses in islamic theology that talk of how difficult it is to converse with or convince someone that is mislead. It wants you to think all non muslims cant see the truth but the reality is it blocks you muslims from listening to reason or knowledge.
@UmarK_063 жыл бұрын
@@danielaitken1459 If someone thinks 2+2=5 how could you teach calculus?
@danielaitken14593 жыл бұрын
@@UmarK_06 I'm glad you understand the point I was making.
@UmarK_063 жыл бұрын
@@danielaitken1459 From your 1st comment it seems you want to converse. If you have any questions about Islam, you're welcome to ask.
@nasirabdi32663 жыл бұрын
@@danielaitken1459 What reason, what knowledge when the truth is as clear as daylight
@nazzynaz19054 жыл бұрын
I'm a Muslim. Islam is perfect but I am not. If I make as mistake then blame it on me, not on my religion.
@safiyapost4 жыл бұрын
Me too brother
@Moshe604 жыл бұрын
But u still better than ur prophet.
@safiyapost4 жыл бұрын
@@Moshe60 our prophet is better than Us.
@manupatel67004 жыл бұрын
Islam ...next war is between muslims and non muslims.
@user-wp1hx2wk6j4 жыл бұрын
Very true
@SebastianHartl-ft1vi8 ай бұрын
As someone who is very critical of ALL Religions, I think we all need to have more of these discussions.
@vincenttaban39508 ай бұрын
You read my mind 😂
@samesryals69526 ай бұрын
The best way ive heard it said is religion seeks reward spirituality seeks understanding I'm trying to understand everyone
@farsalami86054 ай бұрын
what discussion? Where is the discussion? Slavery, murder, child f k ing etc etc what discussion? Behaviour of muslims is way better than quran allowes.
@arunsar78932 ай бұрын
Yeah! .. Cause Cancer can be solved by having "discussions".
@saucyballs7027 ай бұрын
A fantastic discussion. I thank all the people who made it happen.
@taqiyyamevajayate28576 ай бұрын
This is the guy who Moslems consider to be the timeless perfect role model for mankind 🎉🎉 It was narrated from Abu Hurairah that the Prophet (ﷺ) said: "Whoever dies without having fought or thought of fighting, he dies on one of the branches of hypocrisy." Sunan an-Nasa'i 3097 Grade: Sahih (Darussalam)🎉Abu Hurairah reported the Prophet (ﷺ) as saying “He who dies without having fought or having felt fighting (against the infidels) to be his duty will die guilty of a kind of hypocrisy.” Sunan Abi Dawud 2502 Grade: Sahih (Al-Albani)🎉It is reported on the authority of Abu Huraira that the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah, and he who professed it was guaranteed the protection of his property and life on my behalf except for the right affairs rest with Allah. Sahih Muslim 21a🎉It was narrated from Abu Sa'eed Al-Khudri that the Prophet of Allah sent an army to Awtas. They met the enemy, fought them, and prevailed over them. They acquired female prisoners who had husbands among the idolaters. The Muslims felt reluctant to be intimate with them. Then Allah, the Mighty and Sublime revealed: "Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those (slaves) whom your right hands possess," meaning, this is permissible for you once they have completed their 'Iddah. Sunan an-Nasa'i 3333 Grade: Sahih (Darussalam)
@blinkybillski6 ай бұрын
Hahahahahaa your joking right? cause i fail to see how anything she said had any relevance and and was very arrogant in her beliefs. You can study and learn for yourself but you have to refer to those who have more knowledge about something than yourself in order to know your understanding is correct. And Hasan isn't very well unformed himself either but is asking the right questions..
@dianamarss71063 жыл бұрын
When you want to have religion, but you still want to follow your earthly desires, you make your own perception in religion and make fool of yourself.
@natasjanaimah38013 жыл бұрын
Agree
@ranchoddaschanchad62303 жыл бұрын
I agree with you diana marss, and that is called bidah, or innovation, because she wanted to change a lot of established views that has been here for 14 centuries, to make them fit her own principles. She's definitely a deciever.
@anaesthesia15493 жыл бұрын
Religion looks after earthly matters too. Rationality in God’s message must commensurate with His image as Creator of the Universe. At the same time, vastness of a mind to absorb and understand God’s message must also be limitless. Most of us have very superficial and limited view of God, the Universe and the Religion.
@dianamarss71063 жыл бұрын
@@anaesthesia1549 Yes earthly matters are important as we human is earthly matters, but following your earthly desires is different, some people have negative desires and you shouldnt follow your desire you should follow what your religions told you to
@othmanahmad79423 жыл бұрын
She is not following/fracticing rule of islamic law by not wearing hijab..!!
@faiyazkhan97653 жыл бұрын
She's so open minded that her brain fell out
@ninoboy20353 жыл бұрын
Brain 🥰🥰🥰🤣
@laclesamisclub95833 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@scar3833 жыл бұрын
YOU ARE CRAZY !!!!! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLZ THIS HAS GOT TO BE THE FUNNIEST THING I HAVE HEARD THIS YEAR
@amat-alrahman46673 жыл бұрын
Good one 😂😂
@princessashrosemalic26933 жыл бұрын
nice one HAHAHHAHAHHAHA
@JustHere4TheVideos6 ай бұрын
What an awesome debate. Just finished part one. The only one this far that I have seen that has given him a run for his money. Challenged him outright on every single point he has presented in a thoughtful and educated and strong way! In a woman’s voice. In a Muslim woman’s voice for those who are secular and not!! Bravo! Will post again after part two.
@nashad67837 ай бұрын
Dear Irshad Manji all the best to you. what courage Thank you only for the courage to tell the truth.
@sajali29237 ай бұрын
Thanks rapebbi
@noeticcreature15273 жыл бұрын
I learn something here, " being talkative and confident is not enough to make you intellectual.
@huzaifaaamer92123 жыл бұрын
thought the same thing and most of her arguments don't really make sense
@sharulshah19793 жыл бұрын
@@omarkhodammi7132 i thingk you are man f...koff guy, allways man like you are heathing people allways, because you dont no what you talk and you talk like you no everything, allways people like you only no how to liar only forever n ever.
@trying14073 жыл бұрын
@@omarkhodammi7132 Anything you said here is easily refutable, and can be done so through context. Get some education, please brother, and revert back tot he path.
@msurianj3 жыл бұрын
@@omarkhodammi7132 I thought after you Mortad you become a better or good person, but the only thing I learn from you after Mortad is cursing and saying bad from your heart and mind.
@AmericaFirstFree3 жыл бұрын
@@omarkhodammi7132 yes he would be found innocent and would be loved by everyone, even your own children and wife would love prophet Mohammad more than you. The level of ignorant in you is uncanny.
@imranshishir19474 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else hear her say " we define what Islam is". No we don't. Islam is allready defined by Allah ( SWT).
@akchaythapa64744 жыл бұрын
But it's interpreted differently..so the value of definition is kind of null..
@kakakhan47144 жыл бұрын
Agree
@imranshishir19474 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Just like the instruction manual of a item on how to use it is completely dependent on the interpretation right??
@marvelfan25144 жыл бұрын
* Quran says Jesus was never crucified... * Eye witness Friends of Jesus said he was crucified...
@marvelfan25144 жыл бұрын
@ray Ray islam Brought Algebra??
@bellazaparita35747 ай бұрын
Very smart woman! Everybody should have spiritual freedom.
@hibye77515 ай бұрын
What freedom? I mean sure we have rules but we should follow them, it doesn't mean we are restricted from living our lives. If she truly believes in Allah, she should do what he asks, he's our God. We're only in this earth for a few years and then for eternity, you would either go to Jahannam or Paradise.
@vinodaf8 ай бұрын
This is “specialist area” this is what scares ppl, that’s having full control in simplest language. Kudos to her, whether she is right or wrong! She spoke her mind! Honestly be it bible, Quran or Torah bring it on the table n voice out!!
@suaadbarrow7113 жыл бұрын
19:33 she said read my point in its context but she doesn't want the quran to be read in its context and wants ppl to interpret it the way they want 🙄
@msurianj3 жыл бұрын
As she said, she's living in reality. But the reality is she's will dead sooner or later, then after that she know what the reality is. She can interpret her reality after dead the way she want.
@BroMieyy3 жыл бұрын
I think that is liberal Muslim
@samuelsebsibe48313 жыл бұрын
amazing point
@BruceWayne-xx1vx3 жыл бұрын
Why does the Quran need to be read in context? What context is being referred to here? Social and cultural context back then?
@samuelsebsibe48313 жыл бұрын
@@BruceWayne-xx1vx the quran wasnt given to muslims at once it came chapter by chapter . reading it in context means that when reading a chapter you have to keep in mind what the chapters before it are saying
@afghanmusician29923 жыл бұрын
She has created a nice little business for herself. She is basically using her life experience as a problem with Islam. I have seen other people with a similar upbringing saying similar things.
@mr.d48343 жыл бұрын
The people are making the religion look bad.
@RA-vj1gs3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.d4834 They don't have to work hard.
@thefirm46063 жыл бұрын
And this doesn’t tell you anything?
@addaskhasawneh81743 жыл бұрын
@@RA-vj1gs Haha funny little guy,They have been desperately trying to make Islam look bad,And with all that with the social media trying desperately,It's still the largest religion,Of course people who isn't Muslims or who aren't thinking of Islam or religions will believe that it looks bad,The casual people will,But the people are searching for the truth,Won't believe that bullshit,It's the same media that said that the gaysexuality is from the genes 😂
@ibrahiemelfazarey78903 жыл бұрын
@@thefirm4606 that what i call logic indeed it tells alot .
@juliahartshorn24735 ай бұрын
I have much enjoyed listening to this. Thank you
@Venom_Zeus7 ай бұрын
What an excellent speaker !
@majdawahby35003 жыл бұрын
the definition of someone who talks allot and says NOTHING
@MB_01013 жыл бұрын
So true XD i feel like i wasted my time, i don't know how i make it and watch it all
@ummrawamus3 жыл бұрын
omg... soooo true... i was thinking exactly the same
@binhashimhvacrservices2843 жыл бұрын
39:20 is the best time and I am thinking that I heard everything every word from A to Z in English but got nothing..
@anarkhan7483 жыл бұрын
Exactly..
@raqeebislam18123 жыл бұрын
i felt the same
@kellsAC13 жыл бұрын
"You don't have to believe in the prophecy of Mohammed ", that's when every Muslim in the room was like, "ya, im done with this!"
@kellsAC13 жыл бұрын
@Niyaz for real man. She's articulate for sure but what is she doing sharing such a massive platform with Hassan? What gives her any creedance in the Islamic community and how is she relevant? Pluralism is not needed as we have enough division amongst us...
@kellsAC13 жыл бұрын
@Jane Smith absolutely...
@kellsAC13 жыл бұрын
@Jane Smith Wow. You sound like you should have been up there! Well said sis! Also, there is a certain sensitivity that shrouds the hijaab and when she makes a parody of something so holy by saying "it looks like a condom on someone's head", there's no coming back from that.
@omarkhodammi71323 жыл бұрын
FUCK AL JAZEERA THE PROPAGANDA TV.
@woronworon87913 жыл бұрын
there just like. yeah, frick this crap imma head out
@nealandersen48676 ай бұрын
"I live in the world of reality"
@MBS167 ай бұрын
As a Christian. I enjoyed this debate
@samesryals69526 ай бұрын
As a Christian what do you think when a Christian preacher handles rattlesnakes while preaching or tent revivals that function like travelling fairs just to collect money I was raised in it but to me religion seeks reward spirituality seeks understanding I'm trying to understand why a god would allow innocent little children to be brutalized
@mrm17123 жыл бұрын
Guys I will tell you the best method of dealing with people like her. Ask them questions and let them talk. Don't interrupt or argue back or debate. Just let them talk and they will expose their own stupidity sooner or later.
@farozara51943 жыл бұрын
He [Baha’u’llah (THE PROMISED ONE)] had fulfilled all of the following proofs from the Scriptures: 1. His faith had appeared in the year 1844. 2. He had appeared in the East. 3. He had come from Persia. 4. He was known as 'the Glory of God'. 5. He went to the valley of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers. 6. He made his public announcement to the world in that land of ancient Babylon. 7. He was exiled from Babylon to Syria, as Abraham had been before him. 8. He came to the ancient land of 'Canaan' which God had promised to the seed of Abraham. 9. He came to Israel, the Holy Land, by way of the sea. 10. He came from fortified city to fortified city. 11. He came from the fortress to the river. 12. He came from mountain to mountain. 13.He came from sea to sea. 14. Carmel and Sharon had seen him, 'the Glory of God'. 15. He came from the East by way of the Gate (the Bab). 16. He had come to the valley of 'Akká, to the prison-city. 17. He had dwelt in the midst of Carmel. 18. His Law had gone down from the mountain. 19. The children of Israel had been gathered in the Holy Land in his day. 20. A 'house of prayer' for all nations was being raised up on the mountain of God. 21. The desert had blossomed as the rose. 22. His ministry on earth had lasted for exactly forty years. 23. The place of his sanctuary and rest had been beautified. 24. The place where his feet had walked had been made glorious. 25. He had come from the seed of Abraham. 26.He had established a spiritual kingdom even to the ends of the earth. 27. He had unsealed the Books. 28. He had toppled the kings from their thrones. 29. He had glorified Christ. Thief in the Night The Case of the Missing Millennium by William Sears, Part iii, Sect. 14, pp 175-177
@farozara51943 жыл бұрын
@@redsus3991 “I will come as a thief in the night, beware, beware that you are awake". It would take humanity few century to wake up and realize, that Baha'u'llah(The glory of God), who appeared in mid 1800, from the way of the east (Persia), after his forerunner The Bab (The Gate) who was executed in 1850 with more than twenty thousand believers (The followers of the Bab). Baha'u'llah (The glory of God) whose life as a prisoner of Ottoman Empire, over forty years, revealed over 14,000 tablets. Prayers, meditation, new divine laws for the entire planet and revealed a divine administration, the blue print of the kingdom of God on earth, for us to bring about a spiritual rebirth and to reshape human character and new vision. Christ new human ignorance and their frailties and made a command that perchance people can follow the correct path and not be misled; “Seek and ye shall find". The Second coming is much harder to see and to believe in than the first time. God is by far superior and smarter than what the clerics of our time, whom for centuries have been trying to brainwash the peoples according to their ignorance and lake of understanding of the books which are sealed, for material wealth, powers and control, to mislead large section of humanity into oblivions and dogmas, where their sayings could only come to manifest itself in Disney land. These worthless clerics are the reincarnation of the same spirit of the ones that put Christ to the Cross. If they were sincere in their quest, they would accept Baha’u’llah (The glory of the father). They certainly have been wasting their lives and the lives of millions for the manifestation of their own superstitions and dogmas. In the Old Testament we read that God said, 'Let us make man in Our own image'. In the Gospel, Christ said, 'I am in the Father and the Father in Me' In the Qur'án, God says, 'Man is my Mystery and I am his'. Bahá'u'lláh writes that God says, 'Thy heart is My home; purify it for My descent. Thy spirit is My place of revelation; cleanse it for My manifestation'. The clergy hoods is forbidden by Baha’u’llah (The promised one of all religions). Every person fifteen years of age and over is fully responsible for his or her own Faith. It is a very personal relationship between that individual and God, and that person simply is a servant of the Father (God). The highest spiritual station a person can achieve is to serve humanity with absolute love. Independent investigation of truth, Equality of sexes, science and reasons, universal auxiliary language, universal education, universal peace, religion goes hands in hands. ,,,,,,, Etc. “Religion is, verily, the chief instrument for the establishment of order in the world, and of tranquility amongst its peoples. The weakening of the pillars of religion hath strengthened the foolish, and emboldened them, and made them more arrogant. Verily I say: The greater the decline of religion, the more grievous the waywardness of the ungodly. This cannot but lead in the end to chaos and confusion. Hear Me, O men of insight, and be warned, ye who are endued with discernment!” [Baha’u’llah (The promised one), Epistle to the Son of the Wolf, p. 27] “The whole world hath been set ablaze by the Word of thy Lord, the All-Glorious, a Word softer than the morning breeze. It hath been manifested in the form of the human temple, and through it God hath quickened the souls of the sincere among His servants. In its inner essence, this Word is the living water by which God hath purified the hearts of such as have turned unto Him and forgotten every other mention, and through which He draweth them nigh unto the seat of His mighty Name. We have sprinkled it upon the people of the graves, and lo, they have risen up, with their gaze fixed upon the shining and resplendent Beauty of their Lord..” [Baha’u’llah (The glory of God, the promised one)- The Summons of the Lord of Hosts, v. 2.1] “...... And yet, is not the object of every Revelation to effect a transformation in the whole character of mankind, a transformation that shall manifest itself both outwardly and inwardly, that shall affect both its inner life and external conditions? For if the character of mankind be not changed, the futility of God's universal Manifestations would be apparent”. (Baha'u'llah. The Kitab-i-Iqan,p. 240) “Bestir yourselves, O people, in anticipation of the days of Divine justice, for the promised hour is now come. Beware lest ye fail to apprehend its import and be accounted among the erring”. [Baha’u’llah (The glory of God, the promised one), Gleanings from the Writings of Baha'u'llah, p. 17]
@cyberanon24633 жыл бұрын
True. Very true
@Radec9133 жыл бұрын
How do you make it clear to them that their line of reasoning is flawed?
@cyberanon24633 жыл бұрын
@@Radec913 you have a good point ngl
@lastword87833 жыл бұрын
She looks like the type that says "I want to speak to the manager" after listening to a khutba in the Mosque 😂
@thelifeofhakeem3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@samlee30393 жыл бұрын
Nice ad hominem. Do you have a rebuttal to anything she's saying, or are you just interested in ad homs?
@lastword87833 жыл бұрын
@@samlee3039 Someone who says the Quran is not perfect is by definition not a Muslim.
@mr.kyairey16793 жыл бұрын
Everything should be done online until the impossible turned to be possible such like university online (@mediaiou), online gaming (@PlayStation), online dating, so, all schools should be online too (@Sony); in order to study online to avoid being bullied/suicidal (bs) et cetera. twitter.com/DrKyairey/status/1291871846770413568?s=19 t.co/rAwdu9uR37 Freedom of art of drawing that can be shared by many people to many places freely so obviously this is not writing: "In my opinion where I think the intention to stop the spreading of fake news is similarly the same like the intention to stop the use of sharp knives just because many tragedies have been obviously caused by sharp knives so is it yes or no to the spreading of fake news as there is no piracy if there are no buyers and there are no drug dealers if there are no buyers which means there is no problem at all with fake news?" - freedom of expression is also not about freedom to kill people as dead people had no freedom of expression so death penalty is murder crime including killing animal for food et cetera as there are still too many veganists promoting veganism on internet as punishment is torture so all people have rights to turn off the commenting on their post or on their posts as the international rules of Article 19 of Universal Declaration of Human Rights or also known as UDHR said freedom to hold opinion without being interfered so all people can or may impart any information without being disturbed or without being restricted or without being intervened et cetera; if it is not okay for people to test others for real through making a prank such like to rape someone until they say you got pranked and probably it is also not okay for god or gods to test others for real until there were many rape victims if there is god or gods so people should stop giving childbirth to stop all crimes immediately as murder crime equals death penalty and killing animal for food including childbirth the deadliest murder crime as there is no childdeath if there is no childbirth and of course words have never killed people except many people that have killed many people and many animals deliberately or undeliberately whether it was purposely committed consciously or unconsciously has no purpose at all as killing animal for food can be convicted as murder crime and death penalty can be convicted as revengeful murder crime and childbirth can be convicted as the deadliest murder crime as many people died from childbirth so childbirth is more dangerous than coronavirus. Everything should be done online until the impossible turned to be possible such like university online (@mediaiou), online gaming (@PlayStation), online dating, so, all schools should be online too (@Sony); in order to study online to avoid being bullied/suicidal (bs) et cetera. There are still many different countries like America, Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Indonesia, Mexico, Italy, Russia, et cetera that have never been said in the Bible and in the Quran, so, it is unfair for some people to say there is no Israel. It is immature to say this place should be a country named America or Russia because I got it first that is the same like kids in hostel saying this is my bed because I got it first. Many have preached like watching scary movie but invite others to be scared together because it feels like fun to be scared together if compared to be scared alone. Betul Jugak (BJ) Betul jugak, sebabnya laki yang patut dipersalahkan sebab melayan cubaan rampasan oleh perempuan yang nak jadi orang ketiga dalam sesuatu hubungan seperti hubungan cinta sebelum kahwin atau hubungan cinta selepas kahwin, ya lah sebab laki kan diberikan sembilan akal berbanding perempuan yang cuma diberikan satu akal je, maka tu sebabnya lebih ramai perempuan masuk neraka berbanding laki, maka kesimpulannya tak patut lah, sebab tak sama, tiada equality, tiada kesamarataan, tak sama rata, sebabnya kalau laki diberikan cuma satu akal dan sembilan nafsu je pun akan pastinya jadi lebih ramai laki yang masuk neraka berbanding perempuan kalau perempuan diberikan sembilan akal dan satu nafsu je, maksudnya Dia pun akan pastinya masuk neraka kalau Dia diciptakan jadi manusia yang serba lemah dan hina dengan diberikan hanya satu akal dan sembilan nafsu sepertimananya semua perempuan yang diberikan hanya satu akal dan sembilan nafsu, tapi malangnya masih ramai yang tak terfikir tentang ni semua.
@mr.kyairey16793 жыл бұрын
@@thelifeofhakeem Everything should be done online until the impossible turned to be possible such like university online (@mediaiou), online gaming (@PlayStation), online dating, so, all schools should be online too (@Sony); in order to study online to avoid being bullied/suicidal (bs) et cetera. twitter.com/DrKyairey/status/1291871846770413568?s=19 t.co/rAwdu9uR37 Freedom of art of drawing that can be shared by many people to many places freely so obviously this is not writing: "In my opinion where I think the intention to stop the spreading of fake news is similarly the same like the intention to stop the use of sharp knives just because many tragedies have been obviously caused by sharp knives so is it yes or no to the spreading of fake news as there is no piracy if there are no buyers and there are no drug dealers if there are no buyers which means there is no problem at all with fake news?" - freedom of expression is also not about freedom to kill people as dead people had no freedom of expression so death penalty is murder crime including killing animal for food et cetera as there are still too many veganists promoting veganism on internet as punishment is torture so all people have rights to turn off the commenting on their post or on their posts as the international rules of Article 19 of Universal Declaration of Human Rights or also known as UDHR said freedom to hold opinion without being interfered so all people can or may impart any information without being disturbed or without being restricted or without being intervened et cetera; if it is not okay for people to test others for real through making a prank such like to rape someone until they say you got pranked and probably it is also not okay for god or gods to test others for real until there were many rape victims if there is god or gods so people should stop giving childbirth to stop all crimes immediately as murder crime equals death penalty and killing animal for food including childbirth the deadliest murder crime as there is no childdeath if there is no childbirth and of course words have never killed people except many people that have killed many people and many animals deliberately or undeliberately whether it was purposely committed consciously or unconsciously has no purpose at all as killing animal for food can be convicted as murder crime and death penalty can be convicted as revengeful murder crime and childbirth can be convicted as the deadliest murder crime as many people died from childbirth so childbirth is more dangerous than coronavirus. Everything should be done online until the impossible turned to be possible such like university online (@mediaiou), online gaming (@PlayStation), online dating, so, all schools should be online too (@Sony); in order to study online to avoid being bullied/suicidal (bs) et cetera. There are still many different countries like America, Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Indonesia, Mexico, Italy, Russia, et cetera that have never been said in the Bible and in the Quran, so, it is unfair for some people to say there is no Israel. It is immature to say this place should be a country named America or Russia because I got it first that is the same like kids in hostel saying this is my bed because I got it first. Many have preached like watching scary movie but invite others to be scared together because it feels like fun to be scared together if compared to be scared alone. Betul Jugak (BJ) Betul jugak, sebabnya laki yang patut dipersalahkan sebab melayan cubaan rampasan oleh perempuan yang nak jadi orang ketiga dalam sesuatu hubungan seperti hubungan cinta sebelum kahwin atau hubungan cinta selepas kahwin, ya lah sebab laki kan diberikan sembilan akal berbanding perempuan yang cuma diberikan satu akal je, maka tu sebabnya lebih ramai perempuan masuk neraka berbanding laki, maka kesimpulannya tak patut lah, sebab tak sama, tiada equality, tiada kesamarataan, tak sama rata, sebabnya kalau laki diberikan cuma satu akal dan sembilan nafsu je pun akan pastinya jadi lebih ramai laki yang masuk neraka berbanding perempuan kalau perempuan diberikan sembilan akal dan satu nafsu je, maksudnya Dia pun akan pastinya masuk neraka kalau Dia diciptakan jadi manusia yang serba lemah dan hina dengan diberikan hanya satu akal dan sembilan nafsu sepertimananya semua perempuan yang diberikan hanya satu akal dan sembilan nafsu, tapi malangnya masih ramai yang tak terfikir tentang ni semua.
@anarivera88526 ай бұрын
The woman who said she lived in Middle East and North Africa (that she puts in the “Middle East”, like did the imperialist Britain), she said she was not allowed to go outside by herself, because “she is a woman”. I was born and raised in North Africa and i never heard of such nonsense. Women were and are going outside by themselves, they work, they study, the go around for a walk by themselves without someone telling them they should not be outside by themselves. These women are luring people by giving an ugly image of these countries. It’s never said in the Quran women should not be independent. In the contrary, they could be what they want to be. Maybe she misunderstood, that for her “safety” since her family moved around and did not know the us and customs of the new country and she didn’t know ether what to do by herself, she needs someone to be with her when she goes outside, and this is true also when you’re in America, or any other country in Europe or else where. Just stop from generalizing your own, narrow experiences. Open your eyes, you’re not unique. We have wonderful and comprehensive men and families who at least care and protect.
@mchambers34566 ай бұрын
I appreciate these kind of open space conversation, and if you're familiar with Islam and the teachings of Islam, you will know these very intelligently speaking lady is wrong on so many premises. She is doing nothing but bending Islam to fit certain narrative and angle. How great Islam is, that you can attempt to do that with it.
@repanh19796 ай бұрын
😂 what teachings dude the scripture is researching on when to fart and how to fart whichbis halal which is haram u funny outdated 7th century guys will take the entire humankind to 7th century white the kafirs take us forward through their scientific inventions in all fields 😢
@rebbecawalsh53656 жыл бұрын
This woman is only letting Muslim youth off the hook , by literally making up her own excuses , Quran gives you no excuses , it is what it is , reason why she has a lot of people supporting her is because they want excuse for their sins so they can continue doing them without the guilt or regret. She is only feeding them what they actually want to hear. Mahdi is right for saying she is in a way following the extremists logic by making up excuses as they go along.
@alnasermosarraf6 жыл бұрын
Rebbeca Walsh thanks a lot, you have read my mind
@israelrosenberg48726 жыл бұрын
Rebbeca Walsh / she is making money 💰 💰
@ridwanmohamed46846 жыл бұрын
She was a close minded woman & the religion Islam for her is only making money by publishing book like she knows the religion Islam at all ( she lost her only one way sooooo sory Allah will back her & us to truth way) tnx
@mustafaamir59315 жыл бұрын
This world will be over when the knowledge of quran will be lifted I think she is sowing the seeds.
@spondivitslancaster44565 жыл бұрын
People want to enjoy the haram and fuck the halal and live for the duunya.....yeah!!!
@mohamedjama18354 жыл бұрын
وَمِنَ ٱلنَّاسِ مَن يَقُولُ ءَامَنَّا بِٱللَّهِ وَبِٱلْيَوْمِ ٱلْءَاخِرِ وَمَا هُم بِمُؤْمِنِينَ (٨) And of the people are some who say, "We believe in Allah and the Last Day," but they are not believers.
@ibrahiymghany49964 жыл бұрын
Sura 2
@ibrotv80704 жыл бұрын
Nice mashallah
@liusbrenden77354 жыл бұрын
luked quran verses 9:23
@raadavijithalimurtaza9514 жыл бұрын
wallah bro i got goosebumps reading this comment❤❤
@mahmudali54044 жыл бұрын
Mohamed Jama, what a beautiful saying by Allah and a very good responds by Allah for this show. I was angry some of the point this lady or if u wanna call her man she said. I felt I wanted to say something and reading this verse made me feel calm as allah answered for us that is the beauty of the Quran
@m.arya910x2 ай бұрын
"أَفَتُؤْمِنُونَ بِبَعْضِ ٱلْكِتَـٰبِ وَتَكْفُرُونَ بِبَعْضٍۢ" " ?Do you, then, believe in some parts of the Book, and disbelieve in others" [02:85]
@lauracohen49146 ай бұрын
Irshad is brilliant.
@baderalrefai92493 жыл бұрын
"Do you believe that the prophethood- should that be a criteria for being a Muslim as it conventionally is?" "No I don't think so." *Bro someone should introduce her to the Shahada*
@aldocs18383 жыл бұрын
Actually, she’s heard that before too! 😂
@Haze_in-bw7ff3 жыл бұрын
LMAOO I DIED AFTER SHE SAID THAT HAHAAH
@baderalrefai92493 жыл бұрын
@@Haze_in-bw7ff Honestly thats the fastest way to find out somebody doesn't know what they're talking about.
@Haze_in-bw7ff3 жыл бұрын
@@baderalrefai9249 fastest way to find out that she's just guising as a liberal atheist.
@shuceybhasan92303 жыл бұрын
😄😝
@papiyabegum53453 жыл бұрын
“The ability to speak does not make you intelligent” -Qui Gon Jinn
@nkululekonazo57553 жыл бұрын
So true 👊
@shertoys46883 жыл бұрын
Yes master...
@whyz633 жыл бұрын
exactly
@sandraramsook65683 жыл бұрын
Indeed. She may win a debate but it does't mean she is right
@Hannestv46073 жыл бұрын
⚠️⚠️Has Allah forgotten his name or is he just an IDOL!⚠️⚠️ Why is it the unforgivable sin in Islam to confess " there is only one God and this is YHWH"" The Name Jesus means------------- "YHWH RESCUE" Elijah means------------- --------------" MY GOD IS YHWH" John means ----------------------------" YHWH has been gracious"" Zakariya means -----------------------""YHWH has remembered"" Jacob means----------------------------"YHWH will PROTECT!" are all prophets according to the Quran
@ipalomeque8 ай бұрын
you can tell with the crowd shots she’s making everyone think and challenge what both guys are saying
@rogeliogarcia14717 ай бұрын
Amazing, well said!
@muwahhid50794 жыл бұрын
When mehdi asked her "who do u ask or take knowledge from" she realized at that moment how foolishly she sounds. She basically had no answer since she is encouraging every muslim to make their own interpretation of islam. Really?! If that was the case then everyone would basically follow their own desires and have their own personal religion. That would have been a disaster and far away from Gods path.
@rafi984594 жыл бұрын
true exactly what i was thinking
@wakkashussain53384 жыл бұрын
She does follow her own desires, her desire is being gay hehehe stupid bitch
@muwahhid50794 жыл бұрын
@Gagan Deep The problem is that you have Little understanding of islam. Islam is not open for individuell interpretation. It has already been explained how to understand it by the Prophet himself and the three first generations. Some rulings depending on time and place can be made by the Scholars(true scholars) but it has to be in accordance to the Quran and the Sunnah( prophets tradition). So today the Quran is not open for new thinking of understanding it, no no this is far far astray from true islam and will lead many astray.
@EllipticalOrbit74 жыл бұрын
Wakkas Hussain why such hatred
@javedhossain39804 жыл бұрын
Absolutely.. Was thinking the same. Does she know even the basics of Arabic language? Leave aside theologies. The Imam was cutoff duting his 2nd statement by the other lady and wasnt allowed back again, so couldnt hear what he wanted to say..
@ubaid17324 жыл бұрын
This is cut and edited to suit her and it still makes her look silly.
@mobrakkajakka70254 жыл бұрын
Really makes me laugh that after all that editing, she still couldn’t give herself the uperhand in the debate
@akash-dsouza4 жыл бұрын
Given ur a muslim man v can obviously c ur bais It doesn't make her look silly it makes ur bais more evident But given how much u benefit from the way ur religon let's u abuse women n other minorities it's easy to c y u wouldn't want people especially to woman to think for themselves
@mobrakkajakka70254 жыл бұрын
Akash Dsouza It’s funny that people like you keep telling us that we abuse women and other minorities, every single muslim that read the quran can tell you that the islam is absolutely upposed to those actions. But I don’t think that’s something you didn’t know, you’re just using those fake arguments because there are no valid arguments against the islam
@mobrakkajakka70254 жыл бұрын
Akash Dsouza If a person ‘’so called muslim’’ abuses a woman and then claims it is accepted in the islam I can assure you he is wrong. The Islam does not accept that behaviour, nor can it decide who calls himself a muslim. And about the homosexual subject, it is not accepted in the Islam. You cannot be gay and muslim. If you do not accept that nobody forces you to stop calling yourself a muslim
@akash-dsouza4 жыл бұрын
@@mobrakkajakka7025 Well then why is it illegal to be gay in so many Muslim majority countries. Why is the punishment for leaving the muslim religon in these countries death
@groovygrover79949 ай бұрын
Awesome substantive debate
@omarm.83096 ай бұрын
Mahdi. It is good that you expose these kinds of people. Thank you. Thank you
@hassanjamil33873 жыл бұрын
3 easiest ways to reach fame in the west: 1- Criticise Islam 2- Criticise Islam 3- Criticise Islam
@krishGG3 жыл бұрын
1 simple way to get 72 vargins in heaven : Shout allah hu akabar in public .
@rznoor40053 жыл бұрын
@@krishGG 1 simple way to lead a healthy life. just leave your fake religion so called hinduism.... 🐽🐽🐽
@jollyrobert19613 жыл бұрын
Is there anything good in Islam?
@rznoor40053 жыл бұрын
@@jollyrobert1961 If you only search for bad,how can you expect to find something good...?? But in my case whenever i show the bad side of their religion they quickly claim themselves as atheist(even though they're not) because their religion isn't logical enough to defend themselves
@jollyrobert19613 жыл бұрын
@@rznoor4005 can you show anything atleast 1 that is Bad in the teachings of Christ? In the New testament, just 1 that is bad, Well I can show alot in the teachings of Muhammad from your own quran and hadiths that creates so much of problems to Humanity...
@Mz_953 жыл бұрын
Mehdi brought up her comment/comparison of the hijab as, “women who wear the hijab are wearing a condom” and she replied with I’ve had women who wear the hijab walk up to me and thank me for making that argument 🤦♂️
@mohammedammaar5363 жыл бұрын
She cant answer any of the questions, bro. She used another story to divert it. Cant argue with idiots, you know. She says "dont generalize", but all she did was generalizing. Smh.
@addaskhasawneh81743 жыл бұрын
Nonsense bullshit
@monagoth3 жыл бұрын
Mehdi was supposed to pick up on this point. It just shows how contradictory her argument are.
@sam83santy3 жыл бұрын
In India, there used to be temples where lower caste dalit people used to roll over left over food of upper caste brahmin priests until recent past OUT OF THEIR CONSENT with the belief that they were doing service to god..now if you have a working and sane mind, you would realize that this ILLUSION OF CONSENT was hardwired into their psyche by their discriminatory upper caste brahmin oppressors and that they were brainwashed into actually believing that this indeed was their consent..well, same with muslim women..they are taught from the very adolescence about the apparent submissive roles of women in islam and brainwashed into thinking hijab, nikab and burqa being their path to god..doesnt mean that it indeed is their consent..
@ytvideoedit70553 жыл бұрын
And there are millions of women, who wear hijab, waiting with a footwear in hand to welcome her for her derogatory statement. Would she like to meet them??.
@qasimshah.554 ай бұрын
Wow that was really amazing from Irshad Nanji.. Great Muslim thinker indeed. Lot of power to you 👍
@Shoobee633 ай бұрын
True 👍
@annaan82327 ай бұрын
Such a brave and intelligent woman.and honest! I stand with her.
@mariamkhursheed3 жыл бұрын
Mehdi Hasan nailed it when he said “You’re almost empowering the very people you claim to be fighting with!”
@musaauduadamu11913 жыл бұрын
Obviously
@amanuelefrem45013 жыл бұрын
So shutting up is the solution no...I say chase the truth to where ever it may take you ... empowered or not people are being killed in the name of islam..it's about time some one is standing up to the whole idea
@sardork3 жыл бұрын
16:12 debate could be concluded at this point.
@muthinho3 жыл бұрын
@@amanuelefrem4501 who said shutting up is the solution but saying that the quran has some faults and trying to change the religion is wrong nowhere in islam are you allowed to kill innocent people and what's funny about these terrorist groups they use suicide bombs quiet alot but in islam suicide=hell no 2 ways about so it's quite dumb to say that islam is the reason for these terrorists
@amanuelefrem45013 жыл бұрын
@@muthinho I know it is hard for you to accept it I get that .....if we were discussing this at the 18th century the roman catholic would be the anti progress anti science anti civilization institution....but now in the 21 st century the worst form the religious poison is taking is islam..it's honor killings it's anti free speech campaign..( don't talk or show any depiction of mohamed) it's anti civilization campaign....terrorism is one form of this conservative ideology...have u seen saudi arabia u will understand what am talking about... innocent boys are indoctrinated by thier immas or leaders qoran vurses ok ..smite on the necks of infedels....when the qoran says that and they think civilized people are infedels...then we have a problem....it's not for discussion it is obvious crystal clear ...they are not dying in the name of a political party or leader they are dying in the name of islam....and I think you know the penalty for apostasy or leaving islam....where is that safe peace full penalty written please.... don't defend...a book which can be interpreted to do the most beautiful things and the most horrific human acts at the same time..
@asiftazwar73 жыл бұрын
Little knowledge is dangerous. She is making muslim and non-muslim,both confused
@mayabaz82463 жыл бұрын
She’s trying to make Islam cute
@junaidtahir95563 жыл бұрын
Well, i think she right in many of her claims. Tribal people don't follow islam and i know it very well couse I was a part of it.
@mayabaz82463 жыл бұрын
Taliban book haram Al Shabab all islam thought the Quran and doing like Mohamed what he did
@mayabaz82463 жыл бұрын
I know very well about Islam they act that they are victims and who ever do terroir act it’s not from Islam even the Quran is against who is not Muslim
@junaidtahir95563 жыл бұрын
@@mayabaz8246 "The Quran is against those who are not muslims" That's what you're saying?
@martinstrode20607 ай бұрын
She smart and honest and that's why she has our attention
@wahabnassery20977 ай бұрын
Excellently presented
@ymboriginal79803 жыл бұрын
Him: Traps her with a good point. Her: Actually, I've heard that before.
@afaqhussain10473 жыл бұрын
🤣👍👍
@Hannestv46073 жыл бұрын
⚠️⚠️Has Allah forgotten his name or is he just an IDOL!⚠️⚠️ Why is it the unforgivable sin in Islam to confess " there is only one God and this is YHWH"" The Name Jesus means------------- "YHWH RESCUE" Elijah means------------- --------------" MY GOD IS YHWH" John means ----------------------------" YHWH has been gracious"" Zakariya means -----------------------""YHWH has remembered"" Jacob means----------------------------"YHWH will PROTECT!" are all prophets according to the Quran
@avoom29802 жыл бұрын
Islam is a religion were most of the good Islam keep quite against radical Islam.......
@akashsinha28802 жыл бұрын
As an atheist person, the line 1.6 billion muslims and rising sent chills down my spine
@tafheem70002 жыл бұрын
@@Hannestv4607 You yehudis made yahweh and nobody else and everyone knows how Torah and Bible were fabricated according to people and not the Quran.
@omarnjie59094 жыл бұрын
Never thought a Muslim would refer to the The Quran as imperfect
@dailydoseoflaughter64494 жыл бұрын
@Walter De wit Islam has the most respect to women. Mention one verse which tells you to beat up your wife?
@dailydoseoflaughter64494 жыл бұрын
@Walter De wit Without picking up a single verse first maybe you should read the whole context. Then arrive at conclusions. Why do you think many women who starts to read the Qur'an to find faults end up converting to Islam?
@dailydoseoflaughter64494 жыл бұрын
@Walter De wit Doesn't it say advice them?
@dailydoseoflaughter64494 жыл бұрын
@Walter De wit Brother if you want to know what position Islam awards women and how respectful they should be treated. Watch some debates of Muhammed hijab and Ali dawah I'm sure you'll learn a lot from them. If you want to just watch it.
@dailydoseoflaughter64494 жыл бұрын
@Walter De wit Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand. THIS IS THE COMPLETE VERSE.
@VimalPerera-hd8fr7 ай бұрын
Fascinating Animated Great Dialogue Mendi and the Author ✍️👍🇱🇰👍
@masimi33246 ай бұрын
This is a very interesting discussion. I can understand . To sum it up . She's trying to reach us with simple common sense about things. Do not take sides weigh things together and choose the right way to go about it. things.
@noorman49783 жыл бұрын
Irshad before every argument - "But believe me, so many people...."
@adelefarhani53953 жыл бұрын
The very first moment when she says that she talked to many Muslim women, it's an implication that she never did. Just like politicians do in their electoral campaigns, they make up their own stories about meeting people and discussing their daily needs.
@Tep1232 жыл бұрын
So many people but not naming who are all those people.
@yetundeanbali48272 жыл бұрын
😂
@nocturnalowl71102 жыл бұрын
Fck prophet
@murtazamuhammad8048 Жыл бұрын
Oh manji come 😅
@moi29613 жыл бұрын
The problem with subjectivity is that every person feels genius inside
@bukaske3 жыл бұрын
Shall I say deranged!!!
@northernlight88573 жыл бұрын
There isnt true objectivity as far as we know tpday. It wouldnt even be logical with a fictional world were a god exsists.
@moi29613 жыл бұрын
@@northernlight8857 today people see God as myth not because of rational reasons but because of lack of sprituality .today we are sourrounded by meterialim and physical ease and we are sourrounded by technology ,thus we see things as more realistically and we consider ourselves rational and wise. People of past used to be more joyfull and happy even they don't had much ease and food ,today we have every meterial ease but today people seem more depressed ,why. .
@northernlight88573 жыл бұрын
@@moi2961 that is a bold claim. Please provide any evidence. We are living in the best of times. Happiness and safety has never been meassured higher than today. There are many studies on this. Of course not everywhere in the world but the world is better than its ever been. I am glad you care about happiness and wellbeing. Spirituality is a vague term and has a base of something we dont have any evidence of...a spirit. That is magical thinking and superstition. How do you define spirituallity? Maybe we are using it differently and talking passed eachother.
@northernlight88573 жыл бұрын
@MuteX you did not site your sources. Rape is defined differently in different countries so its difficult to get good global statistics. According to the un : There has been marked progress in reducing poverty over the past decades. According to the most recent estimates, in 2015, 10 per cent of the world's population lived at or below $1.90 a day. That's down from 16 per cent in 2010 and 36 per cent in 1990. This means that ending extreme poverty is within our reach. World value survey: "we can see, in the majority of countries the trend is positive: In 49 of the 69 countries with data from two or more surveys, the most recent observation is higher than the earliest. In some cases, the improvement has been very large; in Zimbabwe, for example, the share of people who reported being ‘very happy’ or ‘rather happy’ went from 56.4% in 2004 to 82.1% in 2014." This is just a small outtake but the trend is clear.
@aloysiussaldanha32004 ай бұрын
It's a great debate... I believe such introspection should be encouraged in all religions.
@alfa_romeo07016 ай бұрын
Happy to see such thought provoking debates in Islam. It is but natural for humans and its institution to evolve with times.
@hamdanmuhamad65713 жыл бұрын
How do you call yourself a Muslim if you deny the first Pillar of Islam: "There's no God but Allah and Muhammad is The Messenger of Allah" ??
@shamsobaid3 жыл бұрын
she loves ALLAH but she doesn't believe in HIS orders (as per QURAN), because she thinks that HIS orders are best portrayed through her thoughts 😂
@jvb44503 жыл бұрын
@Stark Industries Same goes for the other people then right? I've read the Quran and from outsiders perspective its actually crazy that people believe this shit.
@meriambenameur49493 жыл бұрын
@@jvb4450 u need to relate verses with their event context ... u dont just read as a novel ..
@piousslave3 жыл бұрын
@@jvb4450 bruuh, u want help knowing Islam or Quran go watch Muhammad Hijab he does debates and stuff in corner's speakers check him out bro
@jvb44503 жыл бұрын
IG- Ufox yeah I know him man. Intelligent guy but he cannot answer a question normally. When asked a question he just asks 3 other questions in return. Also he couldn’t condemn prophet Muhammad for having sex with a 11 year old girl and needed a different book than Quran (Hadith?) to explain him that having sex with small kids is wrong. Also, this implies that Quran isn’t perfect. He cannot accept or recognize that. For me it’s over with trying to understand Islam, since Islam (Muslims) do no effort to understand us Westerners.
@sohailkhan9803 жыл бұрын
The debate ended for me when she said "WE MUSLIMS DEFINE WHAT ISLAM IS". Shows where her knowledge came from.
@mdhasmatalimondal12163 жыл бұрын
She is making her own version of Islam
@jmt70463 жыл бұрын
@@mdhasmatalimondal1216 indeed she does
@sexyyxes31013 жыл бұрын
In terms of people perception yes, the only way Islam can get defined is by action books are there but they only mean anything cause we process the writing.
@jmt70463 жыл бұрын
@@sexyyxes3101 such a weak statement
@sexyyxes31013 жыл бұрын
@@jmt7046 you mean such a realist and practical statement😂
@frederickhartray83646 ай бұрын
Anything Irshad says could apply to Christians and Jews.
@ahmadhussein69226 ай бұрын
Her problem is she wants to convince or I should say deceive her self by defining the love of Allah to go with her own liking and interpretation and not by what Allah said this is how you love me. Loving Allah is to worship him, and worship is following the do’s and don’ts very clearly stated in the Quran, covering every thing we do, not just prayer, Zakah and other Pilars, but eating to sleeping , interacting, learning, patience, suffering, sickness, even sining followed by repentance, even forgetting followed by remembering , making everything we do by the second, minute, day and night counts in the account of Allah for the day of judgement. Giving us the true meaning of our existence. The true meaning of piety (Al-Mutakeen).
@aimenali62022 жыл бұрын
In surah yasin, Allah says we have blocked their minds and hearts and no matter how much you explain they will not understand. She is the perfect example of that.
@alienfromsaturn89092 жыл бұрын
She is making perfect sense here. The points are uncomfortable to accept but true
@volumehercules15132 жыл бұрын
Who are we?? are u saying there are many allah??And y??
@alienfromsaturn89092 жыл бұрын
@@volumehercules1513 He is quoting lines from the quran that says non muslims are incapable of comprehending the message of the book because God has blocked their minds. This is basically what they preach to hate others
@arslanb42782 жыл бұрын
@@alienfromsaturn8909 Not Non Muslims. "Non Believers or people who have chosen not to seek the truth" Non believers doesn't mean non muslims. This is perfect example of you interpreting Islam the way you want to.
@alienfromsaturn89092 жыл бұрын
@@arslanb4278 Dude, by that logic everyone is a non believer and everyone is a believer. Everyone believes something, even an atheist
@caravansvisits3 жыл бұрын
“Irshad, you’re doing DIY Islam.”
@sempremilan.95493 жыл бұрын
Mehdi hasan be like i'm about to end this girl's whole career
@ahy71813 жыл бұрын
@@sempremilan.9549 He bloody did!
@owaisshaikh30673 жыл бұрын
Time stamp?
@Bso5132 жыл бұрын
In the name of Allah the beneficent and merciful 2:11 And when it is said to them, "Do not cause corruption on the earth," they say, "We are but reformers." 2:12 Unquestionably, it is they who are the corrupters, but they perceive [it] not. 2:13 And when it is said to them, "Believe as the people have believed," they say, "Should we believe as the foolish have believed?" Unquestionably, it is they who are the foolish, but they know [it] not. 2:14 And when they meet those who believe, they say, "We believe"; but when they are alone with their evil ones, they say, "Indeed, we are with you; we were only mockers." 2:15 [But] Allah mocks them and prolongs them in their transgression [while] they wander blindly 2:16 Those are the ones who have purchased error [in exchange] for guidance, so their transaction has brought no profit, nor were they guided May Allah swt guide her.Ameen
@abuabdoalwaheed99672 жыл бұрын
Loool, yes New version of Islam.
@user-cs4gn4nk1r7 ай бұрын
Thanks to Irshad, She helped me to believe that "No one is expert", even the doctors are not experts and I can treat myself . I also can conduct surgery and build bridges without an expert. I am a free man
@annaan82327 ай бұрын
No, you are not a free man, just because you don' t believe in your own intelligence. And yes, it is you who is responsible for your health, not a doctor. The same with a religion.
@chlomyster85266 ай бұрын
Of corse, did you stay at a Holiday Inn? If so, you can be an expert in any field chosen.
@greenbluephantom39706 ай бұрын
How does she reconcile her homosexuality with the Quran???
@GMan-vq7cm3 жыл бұрын
Islam is a religion that is perfect,followed by imperfect people.
@nouhafekir96653 жыл бұрын
@Ben Yaeger watch this .. I HOPE IT WILL REPLY TO YOUR QUESTIONS..kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pdNdlJCi1K-ZoYk.html
@sucdik57253 жыл бұрын
@Ben Yaeger bro Christianitys main intentions was to come by the sword hence jesus said I do not come in peace but with the sword hence the time of colonization and black slavery occurred for the benefits and forceful conversion to christianity
@sucdik57253 жыл бұрын
@Ben Yaeger it isnt accurately said on how old Aisha was when she was married in the hadiths some say around 17 to 19. At 9 the prophet was given permission from her dad Abu bakr to marry her but he said he'd wait until the end of the age of maturity. And at the time culturally most would marry at young age as some did not reach the age of 50 since they aged differently there
@SZ-mc7ch3 жыл бұрын
@Naveen Pedditi He never had sex with a 6 year old, it was possibly a 12 year old who wasn’t pre-pubescent, if it wasn’t a under developmental child, what’s the problem.
@SZ-mc7ch3 жыл бұрын
There is didfenrce is opinion of what age varying from 9-19 and around 30
@waleedzubair54134 жыл бұрын
With all due respect, she’s talking a lot but saying very little.
@zarazen81104 жыл бұрын
Yep.
@vbandz26454 жыл бұрын
She said the Quran isn’t perfect and has contradictions but she has said she has strengthened her faith, I smell double standards, in order to proof the Quran is imperfect you have to perform a falsifiability test in order to prove a flaw, she’s a liberal in disguise
@nazmiesamsodien57924 жыл бұрын
@@vbandz2645 Falsify ability, that is the word brother. There are few ayat regarding this.
@vbandz26454 жыл бұрын
Nazmie Samsodien name the ayaats, Allah challenged the people to write books like the Quran if they can even come near to comparison to it
@nazmiesamsodien57924 жыл бұрын
A famous verse referring to the incident of Abu Lahab prophesying his destiny.
@crisferreria62937 ай бұрын
My feeling with Irshan after hearing all what she said is that she's a christian but a muslim version
@mukarramkhanwazirbadshah2458 ай бұрын
Surah Kahf Verse 28 says: وَلاَ تُطِعْ مَنْ أَغْفَلْنَا قَلْبَهُ عَن ذِكْرِنَا وَاتَّبَعَ هَوَاهُ وَكَانَ أَمْرُهُ فُرُطاً “and do not obey him whose heart We have made neglectful of Our remembrance and he follows his own low desires, and his affair has become all excess.” Surah Taha Verse 16 says: فَلاَ يَصُدَّنَّكَ عَنْهَا مَن لاَّ يُؤْمِنُ بِهَا وَاتَّبَعَ هَوَاهُ فَتَرْدَي “Therefore let him who believes not in it and follows his own vain desires turn you away from it, lest you perish.” Surah Qasas Verse 50 says: وَمَنْ أَضَلُّ مِمَّنِ اتَّبَعَ هَوَاهُ بِغَيْرِ هُدًي مِنَ اللَّهِ “and who is more astray than he who follows his own low desire without any guidance from Allah?” Surah Sad Verse 26 says: ِ وَلاَ تَتَّبِعِ الْهَوَي فَيُضِلَّكَ عَن سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ “and do not follow (vain) desire for it will mislead you from the way of Allah” Surah Mu’minoon Verse 71 says that following one’s desires is the source of corruption in this world: وَلَوِ اتَّبَعَ الْحَقُّ أَهْوَآءَهُمْ لَفَسَدَتِ السَّمَاوَاتُ وَالأَرْضُ وَمَن فِيهِنَّ “And if the Truth had followed their low desires, certainly the heavens and the earth, and whoever therein would have perished!”
@josantai26913 жыл бұрын
If its another 15 mins longer...she will starts to cry...
@habibasalim30923 жыл бұрын
I senced that too ,she looks like she realized that she has betrayed the Islam
@kal-elk20323 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@a.zenelji3 жыл бұрын
"Experts, aren't experts." Irshad Manji
@Bonescratcher3 жыл бұрын
Forget about your personal views on the religion. Her arguments were weak. Plain and simple
@cmwt913 жыл бұрын
@@a.zenelji i understand how the statement is silly. but don't be so dense.
@idrissayusuf65614 жыл бұрын
"Whomever Allah guides, no one can misguide, and whomever Allah misguides, no one can guide."
@tarungupta5064 жыл бұрын
Drag allah into every thing..Over religious people r always a threat to society
@BestInPlayz4 жыл бұрын
ja ka your point is invalid.
@AbdulBasit-it7ff4 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Peace be upon you.
@BestInPlayz4 жыл бұрын
ja ka Allah created you talk kindly.
@gregsmith51344 жыл бұрын
Allah is the best deceiver why even follow Allah and his false prophet ? The Quran and Hadiths all say Allah is the best of deceivers. Allah is the sock puppet of Muhammad.
@hossamragab28056 ай бұрын
I don’t know her I don’t read her bonk even , however from her first 6 mins of search she proofed to me that she is an Iranian originated lady that really didn’t understand Islam but she had adapted it by inheritance. That what appears to me maybe am wrong but I promise to start search her
@teresajohnson52657 ай бұрын
Brilliant!!
@Ahmeddinn3 жыл бұрын
When he said to her "you're doing DIY Islam" 😂😂😂😂
@farhanf6503 жыл бұрын
she literally is tho. Her main problem is she wants to do mental gymnastics to allow herself to do whatever she wants. She wants to reinterpret the religion without doing the heavy lifting on understanding historical context, learning Arabic and reading Hadith. Imams dedicate their life to learning the tradition so that they can offer their opinion and tafseer. You can’t debate something you don’t understand fully. I pray that she receives guidance
@Meow090903 жыл бұрын
True, it is very true..
@addaskhasawneh81743 жыл бұрын
She literally wants to make a new generation of Muslims while she isn't even a Muslim -_-
@Ahmeddinn3 жыл бұрын
@@farhanf650 may Allah guide her to the right path
@farhanf6503 жыл бұрын
@@addaskhasawneh8174 idk I wouldn’t say that since anyone who says the kalima should be regarded as Muslim and we should leave the judgement business for Allah. We must just make sure her platform and ideologies are called out as fringe and self interpretation.
@donguron3 жыл бұрын
Acting smart doesn’t make you one 😂😂😂
@muhammadalibaloch644173 жыл бұрын
@J. Müller i think you have never been to any muslim country you have only seen them in your own country. Its not your fault bro that you have not seen any true muslim then you should first have a look on Saudia Arabia Pakistan Afghanistan etc if you wnat to seee practicing muslims. brother i do t mean to offend but you should first seee that how a real muslim acts like and this the main reason that the muslims are increasing day by day. these reverts are not because of these facts and arguments but they have been influenced by the true muslims. if you want to learn or experience how a true muslim acts you should first see Syed Sarfraz Ali Shah Sahab bro he is a scholler of Islam and let me tell you that Islam is not preached by shouting and debates but by impressing others that our beloved prophet may peacebe upon him did😊😊.
@veganforlife46993 жыл бұрын
@@muhammadalibaloch64417 Irshad Manji IS THE FACE OF TRUE MUSLIM, TOLERANT AND NON VIOLENT.
@NoOne-tx6wj3 жыл бұрын
@J. Müller Muslims have been practicing Islam the same way ever since the beginning of it. No one, and i mean no one does anything differently from the beginning of Islam. 1400 years and Muslims still follow the 5 pillars of Islam. 1. Shahada (the creed) 2. Salat (prayer) 3. Sawm (fasting of the holy the month Ramadan) 4. Hajj (pilgrimage) 5. Zakat (almsgivng)
@tanvirbinlokman14763 жыл бұрын
@@veganforlife4699 Lmao
@hiferolenz46713 жыл бұрын
Islam doesn't need reform as it reforms every chalanging aspect but She needs reform becoz if she hides her bulged outside part, then definitely no one is going marry her as then she would b treated as infertile.
@arshadshams24648 ай бұрын
Great debates.
@theguyver4934Ай бұрын
It wasn't a debate it was a discussion
@irenemanzanarez62607 ай бұрын
Very interesting!!
@zm663953 жыл бұрын
Confused and empowered by her own philosophy using Islam as a tool to become popular.....Irshad may u get hidaya
@fazeelalaher62503 жыл бұрын
Ameen
@amaanalisayed3 жыл бұрын
Ameen
@abdirasackshire52133 жыл бұрын
Amen
@a.zenelji3 жыл бұрын
"Experts, aren't experts." Irshad Manji
@kucingtepijalan34593 жыл бұрын
Ameen
@ibrahiemelfazarey78903 жыл бұрын
She’s the definition of “a wolf in sheep’s skin”
@tacyaliran3 жыл бұрын
she is just simply amazing. . .
@abdulrehmanshaikh85823 жыл бұрын
@Goat Prezzy may Allah guide Irshad
@palebluedot2853 жыл бұрын
Why?
@ubaidullahibashir26923 жыл бұрын
Yes of course
@nassweekly21613 жыл бұрын
Is she a Muslim?
@jchan97615 ай бұрын
14:37 Wow. “Let’s stop playing the power game” BOOM This lady is fierce.
@skakshay6 ай бұрын
Mehdi is bad journalist. He's quick to pass judgment on his guest who don't agree with his thought process. That's one hell of a journalism. Respect to Irshad for agreeing to face such a journalist.
@bushrabegum52634 жыл бұрын
All i could imagine was mehdi hassan being like "stay calm, stay calm, she's crazy, it's ok, stay calm....." 😂😂😂
@zarazen81104 жыл бұрын
loool
@sarimrulez4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing about the Imam in the front row looool
@blackheart68974 жыл бұрын
Yeah I know, can't see a woman having so much freedom right 😂
@mdshariquekhan98944 жыл бұрын
Really sister she is insane 😜😜
@novemberpierce2064 жыл бұрын
there are a few words that are red flags in my case -Gender equality -Racism -you know -Um times and power of 10 -like basically people who want to be famous say stuff that are Politically , not morally, and certainly not religiously correct you don't change the text book because it's not to your liking, you read it, understand it and then maybe pass the exam
@BudgetCarnivore4 жыл бұрын
When your will desires duniya over akhirah you end up like this woman 😮
@niggaplease21574 жыл бұрын
Well said brother !
@gps199eb24 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right
@lisamarlina21674 жыл бұрын
What do you expect from woman who doesn't know her fitrah, she is lesbian isn't she?
@rafisalim30444 жыл бұрын
Subhanaallah
@abdiabdilleadan7944 жыл бұрын
True
@akshayneha7 ай бұрын
What is Mehdi trying to even say here? In trying to oppose and argue with her, he's making Islam look really bad (which is obviously not his intention, and that's the funny part).
@MuhammadAhmad-ki7jc7 ай бұрын
Islam is simple to be understood and acted upon it....Submission to Allaah......read the Glorious Quran while your teacher is prophet Muhammmad,(صلّى الله عليه وسلّم)....
@yaseenmalik17553 жыл бұрын
" It's easier to wake up a sleeper . But it's difficult to wake up an acting sleeper 😏
@ranchoddaschanchad62303 жыл бұрын
In other words, it is more difficult to wake a person who pretends he/she sleeping, than the person who is really asleep.
@yaseenmalik17553 жыл бұрын
@@ranchoddaschanchad6230 exactly
@dwacts17apologetics543 жыл бұрын
Also it’s very hard to make a Mohamed pbup (police be upon him) follower to wake up and see the world that it doesn’t suit the caravan seventh century robber pdophile manual book anymore.
@creaatiive17184 жыл бұрын
Shes just a Karen, what did you guys expect. A lot of talking not much logic.
@zainasindhu70954 жыл бұрын
AHAHAHAHHAH
@azambinomar73984 жыл бұрын
Textbook karen 😂
@abschy6484 жыл бұрын
@Deepak T Actually shes modernising the way of Islam to make it more suitable to the liking of the western society. She just goes by what she wants! She just talks a lot but doesn't understand
@abschy6484 жыл бұрын
@Deepak T what do you mean hate our religion
@dameshamansour31284 жыл бұрын
Deepak T So what did u understand from her apart from blame & stereotypes ? Did u hear of how victims facing these issues can address them ? There are 3 billion muslims & by 2027 islam is projected to be the biggest religion in the world and thats not by what she is following. If millions follow the same and a minority have issues its more to do with personal experience as u made sense im sure u recognised. Exactly the contrary people like her make the religion disliked. Im not saying there aren’t issues but people like the girl from the audience whom discredited her does more for those victim. If you truly made sense cant u see she has faced and overcome these issues but what apart from blame and finger-point given such a platform has she concluded to ? What has she help champion for those women apart from support from anti-islamic groups !
@wazzup4u7 ай бұрын
Selective choice allows one to pick & choose from any supposed knowledge without having to buy into the whole package, yet going to an ultimate spiritual source beyond language!
@Iwonderwhy1535 ай бұрын
What a brilliant woman. My heart goes out to you and what you have gone through when you were a child. And always remember just because a lot of people say something doesn’t mean it is right. Quality does not equal quantity. She is one, and they are a lot, but she’s definitely the right one. Go, girl!!! we join theses Muslim sisters, and are behind you 100%, will fight with you to the end of the world
@hibye77515 ай бұрын
Not really, as a Muslim woman myself, I am 100% NOT with her. I am from Yemen, meaning yes I was forced to wear the Hijab but at the end (when we left) I took a small break from Hijab and then wore it again I have never felt better. There is no compulsion in Islam, but you have to at least try follow its rules and stay committed to them afterwards if you truly fear Allah subhanhua wa ta'ala. You will only have this so-called "freedom" for how long? 60-70 years? We will die and return to Allah, and it will be the day you either go to hell for eternity or go to heaven for eternity. It's not like the dunya..
@jerryoshea31165 ай бұрын
@@hibye7751it's interesting u use mentioned freedom and the word ' fear' Not 'Love'..
@PeGaSus2305 ай бұрын
@@hibye7751actually, I feel a little sorry for you…and your misunderstanding of how conditioning works. To agree with the orthodoxy that oppresses women all over the world…is sad and a sign of severe indoctrination. It happens in most, if not all religions, cults, military, and even in training circus animals. That’s why these groups start with younger people/animals…because the mind is young and impressionable and the habit is easier to implant…and sticks longer when those minds have no other experience or context to compare to that early training. Think about this: a bull grown up elephant remains in a circus and controlled by a weak and puny circus trainer/man…only because it was taught as a calf that it cannot break the chain…so it stops trying and keeps being abused for the entertainment of people. The human mind, since we are also animals, are just as pliable. And regardless of which religion we are “trained” or brought up with…we defend it with the same passion; thus, our religiosity is only an accident of birth. If you were born into a Christian, Hindu, or Jewish family…you would be making the same argument for that particular religion.
@sammy43393 жыл бұрын
No one: Irshad: I've heard it before.
@mansoorahmad14223 жыл бұрын
😂 brilliant
@inaamsiddiqui54423 жыл бұрын
😭😭 fr
@umerwazir26753 жыл бұрын
Yeah i was also thinking the same... where ever she was not able to produce a real evidence or a solid point she would just say that line so that it looks more realistic and believable
@umerwazir26753 жыл бұрын
@Jane Smith mam indeed she does... lets suppose you are a Christian then it certainly means that you follow and believe in its teaching from head to toe, its not like if you like something then you follow it but if you dont like something in that belief then you remove that section and carry on... this is not how it works... either you follow it 100% or you dont follow it as a whole... the same thing applies over here... she is gay even though it is strictly forbidden in the 3 monastic religions... she says that it is not important for a muslim to believe in the prophet which once again puts a believer out of the religion... this is a religion we are talking about not some cloths where you can just input your opinion because you had small issue... she is using the religion for her business or even just to get attention or to be called a liberal feminist, whatever she may think but it is simply wrong and stupid to put the faith of 1.3 billion people around the world into trash just because you had a mere problem... i completely understand what women go through in a man dominated society but this is no way to put your point on the table. Every single religion tells us to be peaceful and caring about one another... to respect the 3 genders because all of us have been created by god... it is not okay to say that islam is the only religion which oppress women and fuels extremism and violence, even though we can clearly see that if this was the case then i suppose you and i wouldn't be talking instead we would be either dead or living in caves because islam have been around from the past 1436 years and Christianity which is sent by the same god and has a very large proportion of its teachings similar to islam... by believing her ideology you and i would be fighting and so would be the rest of the world simply because all religions have a very much small proportion of its teaching where it instructs its followers to fight. I hope you understand what i mean... if not then i will love to talk more about this issue with you mam... take care... Allahafiz
@umerwazir26753 жыл бұрын
@Jane Smith exactly mam thats what we all mean. Wearing an hijab is the responsibility of the women, whether she wants to wear it or not, its upto her and thats what the religion says... but i think as male nobody really stares as a women who is wearing a hijab,niqab or a burka particularly and i think women are pretty safe in this cloth... we must come to understand that a great percentage of women are "physically" not "mentally" weaker than man and therefore if she reveals herself to someone other than her husband then i think in most cases she will be harmed by some man because this is how the psychology is... i suppose wearing any sort of cloth that protects your innocence, beauty and self respect is great not only for you but for the whole society. I am from waziristan and to this day literally i have never heard of rape, adultery or fornication or the consumption of a drug which makes you completely intoxicated and harmful to others and the simple reason for this is that sometimes a strict ideology does protect you and the people around you from harmful things.
@2343013 жыл бұрын
She said the Quran isn’t perfect and has contradictions but she has said she has strengthened her faith, I smell double standards, The Quran has a verse about these kinds of people Surat - Ul- Baqara Vesre 8 And of the people are some who say, "We believe in Allah and the Last Day," but they are not believers. Surat - Ul- Baqara Verse 11 and when it is said to them, ''do not cause corruption on the earth. ' they say, ' we are but reformers. Surat - Ul- Baqara Verse 13 and when it is said to them, ' Believe as the people have believed.' they say, should we believe as the foolish have believed?' unquestionably, it is they who are the foolish, but they know [it] not. Surat - Ul- Baqara Verse 14 and when they meet those who believe, they say, 'we believe' but when they are alone with their evil ones, they say, '' indeed, we are with you; we were only mockers.
@goldnile7183 жыл бұрын
These are verses about hypocrisy. Why do you equate reformist thinking with hypocrisy?
@danielaitken14593 жыл бұрын
The Koran contradicts reality not itself. It cant contradict itself because it would instead be called an 'abrogation'.
@2343013 жыл бұрын
Gold Nile no these versus are absolutely fit on this lady because she said that she doesn’t believe in Quran But she is a Muslim 😂😂
@dainghaqimi3 жыл бұрын
@@goldnile718 the thing is,reformist are hyprocrites.they believe what they want to believe and rejects some word in qoran which she thinks society will bash on her for believing this.that is why Allah will answer any argument in the hereafter for example,these verses mention by the guy above me
@ismailmohammad25793 жыл бұрын
She is of the Agha Khani faith... not considered Muslims...
@swingeasyguy5 ай бұрын
When you're religous, isn't your ability to be a critical thinker already minimized? Religion and open mindedness = oxymoron.
@mikelee4885 ай бұрын
Let’s go champ
@Dvrklvrdzmuseum5557 ай бұрын
This lady is the Islam version of Candice Owens for us blacks lol
@AjmalShahaban3 жыл бұрын
I kinda like, how confused the whole audience are... 😂
@mohamedibrahimwarsame28333 жыл бұрын
😅😅😅😅
@abuabdoalwaheed99672 жыл бұрын
If I was not a Muslim, I will be a very confused audiant.
@abuabdoalwaheed99672 жыл бұрын
True, looool
@AjmalShahaban2 жыл бұрын
@@abuabdoalwaheed9967 yea really, you shouldn't even invite or entertain such people on stage in the first place...
@ibrahimhadid92573 жыл бұрын
We need Mohammad Hijab to hop on the beat and spit some fire 🔥
@KBH43 жыл бұрын
yesssssh
@AzharJH13 жыл бұрын
Your finished!!!
@mikeyconnor3 жыл бұрын
@@AzharJH1 walahi You’re finished
@Recitationsoftheheart_official3 жыл бұрын
We need mohammed hijab to educate this lost woman
@ad4m2753 жыл бұрын
@Al Barbarī “ I smashed ur boy “ 😂
@josephharuna16266 ай бұрын
I love the way she breaks down everything about that religion, she is good and know what she is doing, keep up the good work.
@helenawaking-mc7fp7 ай бұрын
Very interesting debate. Do Muslims allowed to personally own a Quran and do they read the Quran in their own personal time?
@zararkhan28943 жыл бұрын
Is there any argument she hasn't heard? Every point someone makes "iVe HeArD tHaT ArGuMeNt BeFoRe"
@muhammadk90813 жыл бұрын
Well she is on a mission to not only defend every word in her book but also to enforce her idea of Islamic values on others exactly the way terrorists do. The only difference is they use weapons and she is using her pen...
@cmwt913 жыл бұрын
salty?
@kerovibe3 жыл бұрын
She was so infuriatingly dumb and full on libtard.
@Saad-lw4ry3 жыл бұрын
And she said she wasn’t able to debate with any big sheiks.
@maisarah42253 жыл бұрын
“You’re doing DIY Islam” 😭😭😭😂
@ahy71813 жыл бұрын
I died lolsssssssssssss!
@eskindirmekonnen19783 жыл бұрын
🤣😂
@samasad77702 жыл бұрын
this is true its diy islam
@Bso5132 жыл бұрын
In the name of Allah the beneficent and merciful 2:11 And when it is said to them, "Do not cause corruption on the earth," they say, "We are but reformers." 2:12 Unquestionably, it is they who are the corrupters, but they perceive [it] not. 2:13 And when it is said to them, "Believe as the people have believed," they say, "Should we believe as the foolish have believed?" Unquestionably, it is they who are the foolish, but they know [it] not. 2:14 And when they meet those who believe, they say, "We believe"; but when they are alone with their evil ones, they say, "Indeed, we are with you; we were only mockers." 2:15 [But] Allah mocks them and prolongs them in their transgression [while] they wander blindly 2:16 Those are the ones who have purchased error [in exchange] for guidance, so their transaction has brought no profit, nor were they guided May Allah swt guide her.Ameen
@samasad77702 жыл бұрын
@@Bso513 Wallahi masshaallah
@sydneychusi7815 ай бұрын
This lady is crazy. She’s playing with fire.
@mukarramkhanwazirbadshah2458 ай бұрын
Certain desires can make a person so attached to something that he loses the ability to discern. He becomes subjective and is blind to the truth.
@dinayooo36603 жыл бұрын
I feel like everything she said is contradicting herself
@believer00013 жыл бұрын
I like how Mahdi pulls out Imam saab to interpret the verse of Noble Qur'an, when that stupid lady was interpretating wrongly Nd when imam corrected it her face 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 treat to watch😂😂😂
@dinayooo36603 жыл бұрын
@THE UNUSUALLY SUSPECT shut up
@gilangfrans6423 жыл бұрын
She’s the type of person who read a book’s cover and claiming herself to be a philosopher
@AhsanKhan-nh8nk3 жыл бұрын
Hahahahah🤣
@romilmahant29713 жыл бұрын
Ok, what is the punishment of a muslim who leaves his faith?
@gilangfrans6423 жыл бұрын
Romil Mahant i believe it called murtad, when a person leaves their faith in islam. They have special place in the jedgement day (idk im not muslim myself but i grew up in muslim environment). But i think you dont have to scared of punishment when you stop believeing. Idk what you try to ask me for
@Xx-he9qe3 жыл бұрын
@@gilangfrans642 the punishment is death
@Xx-he9qe3 жыл бұрын
@@romilmahant2971 the punishment is death
@Rico-Suave_6 ай бұрын
Great video, thank you very much , note to self(nts) watched all of it 45:48
@sadekgheidan4 ай бұрын
Judging by the arguments that she uses, this lady should write on her forehead: "Property Of"" and right under it the Israeli flag. And the planted individuals in the audience who make statements, all dressed up too nicely to be random, also makes this entire engagement look like a PsyOp. This kind of manipulative psychological warfare operation, aimed at social engineering, might have worked effectively in the 1990s, but not in the 2010s, and certainly not today. Their tactics are getting old 😴😴😴