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6 in a row, ready to tow.....8 in a V, you sit down to pee. Here all night folks 👍

I bought a 2017 ram over ford and chevy for a few reasons, but the biggest was bang for the buck. Go compare features between the ram and ford and you'll see how much ford nickles and dimes you for options. I got a fully loaded ram for a great price, much cheaper than Ford, and it does what I need perfectly, i couldnt be happier. You can look at towing numbers all day, but in the end, if it fits your needs and saves you 10k then its an easy choice.

Andre said it best. There is a reason why semis and heavy equipment use the straight six. It is the most efficient, and makes the most usable torque. Cummins rules.

I find out this week if I am the proud owner of a 2018 Ram Laramie 4x4 with the 6.7l Cummins! I can’t wait! Thanks for the great comparison video, The Fast Lane Truck guys!

Would like to see a new manual g56 dually get tested up the IK or the 100mi loop.

Fewer cylinders will always have the efficientcy advantage. All things being equal with displacement, you'll always have less friction with a 6cyl vs 8 as the 6 has fewer moving parts.

Every couple of months we get another recall on our Cummins Rams. The dealers never have the parts, so the recalls stack up.

I own a 2019 Ram Tradesman 2500 Crew Cab 2wd with the fifth wheel towing package,18" chrome clad wheels and tires, and a few other options. I got the vinyl seats and rubber floors. I absolutely love the truck and I feel like at 45k out the door I got my money’s worth.

Love the T-Shirt Nathan!

I was in that area recently. The wind was intense and some of the tumbleweeds with gigantism were actually dangerous.

+The Fast Lane Truck y’all should do a 2018 Ford F-350 SRW with the 6.7L Diesel and a 2018 RAM 3500 SRW with the 6.7L I6 Cummins Diesel with the AISIN 6 Speed Automatic Transmission

can you do a mpg with no towing for the ram 2500hd?

Would like to see a video on a entry level version of the ram 2500 base model. For someone who is looking at getting a truck that big.

Nice video!!!!

How often do you check trailer tire pressure? Im sure you do . Thank you both again for your commitment. db

I love your guys videos but I notice small things that aren't kept constant such as read end ratio in other videos small things wind, temperature, and are the trucks fully warmed up? I would also love to see a manual ram gauntlet test.

You do plan on this same test with a comparable Duramax correct?

Does the 4x4 affect the mpg in a 3/4 or 1ton truck like it does the 1/2tons

Bring back Mr. Truck!

You should do a test with and without that fancy genY hitch. See if it actually does improve mpg.

"Wow, that's a great cap for the cap less thing." 🤷‍♂️

are there other factors to affect mpg than the engine? what is the gear ratio? what is the truck weights?

You forgot to mention the paint color of that handsome Ram; New Holland Blue.

How could a hitch effect mileage?

Rush 2112 shirt! Awesome!

Was the cruise control used for both trucks at the same speed?

Love the RUSH shirt

Kinda looks like you are using a 2inch hitch in the 21/2 on the truck without the reducer sleeve?

Love how they are comparing different year models.

Will u compare the f150 3.0 diesel with the ram 1500 ecodiesel?

Are you planing to do 2019 2500 Hemi 6.4

All sounds great ! But i want to see these trucks pull that load up a long steep mountain! This test was like driving a new car around the block Lol !

Than you for all the videos and information but when doing these videos can you please specify the gear ration of the trucks your using.. As we all know gearing is everything and it would be nice to know what your using.. Thank you

Can you guys test drive a g56 Cummins?

First thing I would like to say is thank you for tests worth watching. There are a few things that come into play here and one of the most important is the power level. In the diesel world having a lower power setup leads to better fuel mileage. This is why big boy fleet trucks will have 9L-12L engines only making a tiny 350-450HP or so and the higher power engines are just accepted as going to use more fuel. Over the road (Semi trucks) use inline 6 engines because of space, cost to build, and simplicity. It's super simple when exhaust goes out one side of the engine and air comes in the other side. There are other reasons as well, but not worth going into. Either way it looks like Cummins has chased fuel mileage more than Ford where Ford has chased power. For the minor difference I would take the power.

Non Ram guys/Ford enthusiasts + this video = TRIGGERED

I want to know what the paint color is called.

We have this exact truck, color and all, and pulling our 11,000 lb setup we very rarely see above 10, even completely flat at constant speed. Thoughts on why we aren’t seeing these numbers?

I found that my F250 could get up to 15 mpg using my rear airlift system when hauling a 15000 lbs fifth wheel. Not engage when hauling I got only 10 mpg. Big difference. I just traded my 2016 F250 due to the exhaust system going out and got the Ram 2500. They are having the same issues VW did with their diesel engines.

What happened to the ecodiesel not showing it as an option anymore on the dodge web site. Are they offering it in 2018 ? Or is it dead due to extreme EPA regs

Liked for the Rush shirt.

Just picked up my 2500 cummins great truck and I'm glad it doesnt have a sunroof I hate those things.

Anybody knows why FCA discontinued their Air Suspension (4 corner suspension) on the 1500 line?

Well darn. I have a 2500 w/6.4L and don't like getting 8 mpg when towing. I figured out if I drop to 61 mph, I get about 11 mpg. I've been thinking I'd go with the Cummins for the next truck, but your mpg wasn't much better.

Does that trailer come in a men’s ?

Hi, can y’all do a MPG between the 2019 Ram 6.4 V8 2500 and 2019 F250 6.2 V8. Like the one y’all did in 2017? Thanks

By the way the introduction was made, I assume these tests were not conducted on the same day. Wind and temperature can play a HUGE role in MPG. I understand it's impossible to drive every 100 mile loop in every truck on the market in one day in the same weather conditions, but it's also impossible to claim that this test has any validity as well.

That's my dream truck!

What 3/4 Ton truck getting the best mileage empty? Just everyday driving situations.

Nathan is the coolest guy in TFL. He has a Rush Starman t-shirt.

How does the Gen Y hitch improve the fuel economy ?

The cummins is hands down the most dependable, efficient, and powerful. There were multiple runs done on a dyno with all three manufacturers and the cummins was the only one that was close to what the manufacturer suggested horsepower and torque. The duramax with the hood scoop and all was the worse of the three. These trucks are not ment for groceries, they like to be worked. Cummins all the way.

say whatup on the 2020 BRONCO thats on the way?

Both very nice trucks. That being said it would be hard not to go with the Ford being less than 1mpg difference & the truck itself seems much nicer... The only other thing the Ram has going for it is the motor is still very accessible conpared to the Ford, but ince you do an EGR delete in the Ford it free's up a lot of room as well & if I bought either of these trucks they would immediately get a DPF/DEF & EGR delete immediately...

All of the Big 3 make a good product. At this point it comes down to personal preference and price. However in this comparison I thinks it's pretty impressive that the Powerstroke got less than 1mpg less while having 70 more horsepower and 125 more lbs of torque.

Hoping someone with more inquisitive mind than me can answer a question. Whats the max towing (with a normal towing hitch and a 5th wheel and trailer) on a ram 1500 / 2500 / 3500 that are not dually. Answeres preferably in tons / kilos if possible

The funny thing is, my family tows our bowpicker that weighs more than what your towing, and our truck is a 2004 Ram 2500 hemi.

I have issues with these tests. The longer you sit I mean I know real world. But say for instance you catch the green light for exiting and entering freeway limiting down time. Vs the other truck getting stuck at both red lights idling for 2-3 min and the dead stop take off vs rolling acceleration. The difference in these 2 are very marginal. .8 miles a gallon can be made up on one truck and or lost on the other.

Did they say the rear axle ratio? also, is there an unloaded MPG loop for this 4x4? I saw one for the black 4x2. Thanks

Need to see a Cummins with the manual transmission on these tests.

Hey guys thanks once again! Ok so that’s mileage, but what about ease of travel and towing? We all know it’s down owner 100 lbs ft. Plus about 60 hp? So there must be a difference? But that was still only 12,000 lbs? Or at least under the max rating. But I love the Ram, it’s just about like one I would build if ordering! Either that or a 3500 Aisin. Yes even over a Ford or Chevy. Just due to the idea of ownership for many years with the ease of maint room you have with the Ram over the others. Plus the interiors are actually nicer than Fords and Chevy highest trims. Sure Ford has more electric drivers aids. But I’ve been towing trailers, from 18 wheels down to my little travel trailer and do not need “aids” or what I’ll call glovebox drivers! The one item with the Ram I’m not too crazy about, is the way you cannot get the nicer bright exterior colors on that particular Harvest Package in the Harvest colors of the nice blue of the test Truck or the Harvester Red, with either you are limited with the black interior, where as if you go with black, white or silver, the only other colors available with the Harvest Package, you can get, depending on trim level, the interiors with Canyon Brown, Light Frost Beige That adds some lightness to the interiors instead of basic black! In a Laramie you can get Pearl White with the beautiful Black, Brown Light Frost Beige, on the Line Star the same is available, but in bright white not Pearl White.

My wife bought a 2018 Ram 2500 Tradesman Crewcab 4wd with the 6.7L Cummins. The 3.42 gears seem a little tall. And at some point the truck will get 35" or 37" tires to replace the 275/70-18 tires. So I will have the dealer change the gears to 3.73 or 4.10. The truck is rated to tow a very good weight. But I expect that I will probably have a CAconversions.com Allison 1000 upgrade done at some point. The shocks have been upgraded to Bilsteins in the back. But since my wife said no lift yet. Eibachs in the front. I changed to Carbon/metallic brake pads all around. The truck now behaves more like a sports car on twisty mountain roads. Odd thing though. My wife traded in a 2014 Ram 1500 Tradesman Crewcab 4wd 3.6L gasser, with 3.21 gears. The fuel economy is the same between both trucks. She says I should have done a better sales job on the Cummins VGT engine brake. And she would have never bought the 3.6L gasser!!!!! Ever!!!!!! My wife is a cheapskate miser. The price difference between the 2 trucks was about $14k. We live in a semi-rural area with flash floods. And sandy spots as traps when pulling over to let emergency vehicles pass. It rarely snows that much, but has been 3' deep. The 2500 is a monster compared to the '79 Toyota Corolla she drove when we got married in '85. I had a '79 Ford F250 Supercab 8' bed. She claimed my truck was ridiculous! Now her 2500 Cummins is the ultimate vehicle. How times change.

I would be interested to see a Ram 2500 Cummins with the manual on y’alls Ike Gauntlet and MPG loop. I doubt Ram has many of those for press vehicles though.

Please start doing DEF mpg

In my opinion that is a very good looking truck as well.

Ram once again shows what a truck should be. Did you know Ram introduced a diesel in a light duty truck in the first place? Just about every good idea came from Ram and when they were Dodge. This truck is a master piece and that's why you see 5 to 1 Ram's hauling equipment on the road for businesses.

Why do u wait 30 seconds then top off?

What was the axle ratio of each truck? .9 mpg in a single run is a wash. The Ram likely had the 3.42 gears. The Ford either has 3.31 or 3.55.

You guys never talk about the wait or payload capacity slide in camper wise of these trucks why is that??

That blue Ram is niiiiiiiiiice!

It be nice to see the big 3 get away from the torque and HP marketing wars and improve on these trucks fuel efficiency. All these trucks have plenty of power, hope to see increased fuel economy in the future. Great video, thanks for sharing.

Really nice color on that Dodge.

What about the Duramax?

Why didn't you put a duramax in the group?

Great cap for that cap less things

Towing contest between the two

Never trust anyone wearing a Phish shirt.

Not a Big suprise that the inline engine would be a hair better on fuel and i am guessing that you had it in the Right RPM range when towing where as your V8 will need to Rev faster to make it and its a Harvest Edition So i See it was A New Holland Blue Paint

It's also nice to see the motor in the Ram. All you can see in the Ford is plumbing and God help you if you need service after the warranty. The cab must be lifted off the frame to work on the Powerstroke.

Name of the color?

If Ram ever gets their act together and puts a heavy duty eight speed or 10 speed in the 2500 that efficiency will even get better.

So I have been looking into buying a 2500/250 and a guy I work with says go ram because his 250 is in the shop all the time and the Cummins engine is way better. This would be my first diesel. Anyone experienced both of these and have a unbiased opinion.

im not surprised that de-rated cummins got higher MPG

I just bought a 2018 6.7 cummins 6 speed manual transmission, im totally not gonna delete the e r g or anything hehe..

You guys should test deleted trucks against stock trucks to see the fuel economy differences.

3:38 just looking at this, what are those 2 black rubber dots on the hood?

They need to run the trucks at the same time this would eliminate variables like the outside temp or wind.

Do a comparison and race with the old 2006 silverado ss and the new 2018 silverado high country they both have 6.0L v8’s and awd

My next truck is going to be a 2500 cummins. the interior is really nice on even the tradesman. you can spec a slt to look just like a Laramie but with a rubber floor. they look great and they are built very sturdy. I haven't heard too many issues lately about anything. anyone work for a dealer know 9f common issues with these?

That blue is amazing

That ram fuel cap is so cheap. Looks like someone just went to home depot and bought whatever they could find to fit. You spend 60k on a truck a d don't even get a real fuel cap. What else did they cut corners on?

This shouldn't be a surprise there is a significant power difference thus using less fuel.

Love the straight six. If I was looking for one i'd go for a 2012 model. Something before the DEF fluid junk was added

Why does Dodge down-tune their engine for the 3/4 ton? Is there an MPG advantage to that?

“ big boys use these engines”

That milage is so close it shouldn’t even be a factor when buying a vehicle. Ride, looks, and best technology should be what matters.

Weight towed: 12500 lbs. Distance: 98 miles. Ford: 10 mpg. Ram: 11 mpg. If this "test" is valid, the Ram mpg is 10% better than Ford mpg. The Ford payload rating is about 700 lbs more than Ram, which is about a 30% increase. [from prior TFL vid: Nissan Titan XD CTD pulled 7000 lbs box trailer over 98 miles and achieved 11 mpg]. I'd say the 3/4T diesel trucks compare very favourably for mpg. Also, I think many truckers would trade 10% less mpg for 30% more payload, so Ford may keep its #1 spot. Hello TFL: have you done this test for the Chevy?

As those asked wherever a new ram 2500 with the Cummins is more efficent than a F-250 with the power-stroke over a test loop with at least a 10k cargo trailer in tow.

One thing you guys always fail to mention is engine break in. A Cummings doesn't break in till it reaches 25,000 miles. when that occurs you can feel the power increase and the fuel economy increases. .