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Is a 4Runner TRD Off-Road BETTER than a Jeep Rubicon OFF-ROADING?
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Күн бұрынIs the 4Runner Better?
Do 33s really make a difference?
Am I bad at driving?
In this video, we do an Off-Road comparison between a 2020 Jeep JLU Rubicon and a 2021 Toyota 4Runner TRD Off-Road.
Both vehicles are rocking 33 inch All terrain tires so it should make for a pretty interesting comparison!! It’s also winter here at Tahuya ORV in Washington State which should make things that much more fun with some snow in the forecast.
Stock 2020 Jeep Wrangler JLU Rubicon vs 2021 Toyota 4Runner TRD Off-Road on 33s
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Timestamps
0:00 Intro
0:58 Toyota 4Runner Intro
1:20 Jeep JL Intro
1:45 Angles and Ground Clearance
2:26 Vehicle Dimensions
3:50 Articulation
5:46 Off-Road Ride Quality
6:38 Ramp Angles
7:27 Breakover Angle
8:26 Conclusion
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My Vehicle:
Jeep Wrangler Rubicon
Warn VR10S
3 piece steel bumper
Iron Man Raid Series Rock Sliders
Stock 33s
Overland Gear:
Iceco JP40Pro
Jackery 240
Camp Chef Teton Compact Stove
Recording:
GoPro Hero 7
Movo VXR10-PRO External Video Microphone
DJI Mini 3 Pro
DJI Osmo OM6
@JTRSpartacus Жыл бұрын
Both are good offroad vehicles. It shows that the 4 Runner with a mild build can go toe to tie with Jeep. The Wrangler will clear 35” tires from the factory and that would eliminate the breakover and clearance issues.
@520overland Жыл бұрын
Definitely! That’s the big point here. Small changes can have a pretty big impact
@Moon222 11 ай бұрын
Unless you are going rock climbing, the answer is always 4Runner TRD. Thanks for this concise and detailed vid.
@capmidnite Жыл бұрын
For overlanding in the USA, 80% of the driving is on vast interstate highways to reach the destination. For that reason, the 4Runner is the better choice.
@jkline398 10 ай бұрын
This is what matters. If you are going to trailer your 4x4 to get to the trails like you should anyway, then there is no comparison to a SxS
@azwelke2638 Жыл бұрын
One thing I can say, is that when I'm out on the back roads of Arizona in my 4runner, I see a lot of jeeps broken down. So, despite the statistics, the jeep will get you out into the bush, but the 4runner will make sure you get home.😁
@RLTW_03 Жыл бұрын
💯
@zhester86 Жыл бұрын
@jim you really going to argue public information? Plenty of stats out there for you to read in the reliability category.
@zhester86 Жыл бұрын
@jim meanwhile go watch commercials from the 90’s of stock Toyota’s bouncing through the trail or on the farm. Those still run today ! Is the wrangler cooler sure, but cool points don’t buy me reliability.
@zhester86 Жыл бұрын
@jim yup, I’m perfectly fine. Thanks for your concern.
@joewe23 Жыл бұрын
Fan boy without any proof lol Yeah sure buddy lol
@allanblack8635 Жыл бұрын
4runner is for adventure, the jeep is for playgrounds. Jeep for rock crawl and extreme fun. 4runner for impromptu road trips.
@michaeldbhawker3556 11 ай бұрын
Delusional. When a 4 runner winches your mechanical broke ass out as it will remember this conversation.
@paulwilliams2024 Ай бұрын
You have zero clue what your talking about
@d.phothirath5084 Жыл бұрын
Considering I owned a Jeep Wrangler and now own a T4R... to have the T4R be compared to the Jeep off road is a huge compliment. With highway driving , room and resale value It's why I own the 4Runner now. ✌🏼
@RagingBad Жыл бұрын
Not only a Jeep but a Rubicon
@joerouth6255 Жыл бұрын
Resale on wranglers is really good. What would really be the biggest tie breaker now uh days is mpg (they both pretty much suck). Something that gets 28ish would be ideal
@blueduster74 Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t matter for most people, choose want you like. But leave the rocks and similar stuff alone if your in a IFS vehicle. You will break sooner than later. Helped more than a few Toyota and H3s that were broken on the trail.
@RagingBad Жыл бұрын
@@blueduster74 and your Jeep will keep breaking everything
@bobquattrini1787 Жыл бұрын
Plus the Toyota has weak ifs suspension... 😆
@Anomize23 Жыл бұрын
Both are just capable vehicles. You see more 4runners and jeeps than anything on trails these days.
@davidwood974 Жыл бұрын
Toyota reliability all the way!
@zachariahivanov4654 Жыл бұрын
Take the 4Runner to the rubicon trail and do the same comparison
@520overland Жыл бұрын
Hopefully we can make that possible one day!
@canalesivany Жыл бұрын
Come back 5 years later the 4Runner will be running like champ the fiat jeep I don’t think so!
@thadlm2698 Жыл бұрын
@@canalesivany 5 years; that Jeep won’t be running in 2 years without some type of mechanical intervention.
@canalesivany Жыл бұрын
@@thadlm2698 I know I was just trying to be nice with jeep lovers! I had jeep wrangler they endless money pit!
@williamwilde9867 Жыл бұрын
A properly maintained jeep will last forever my 89 Cherokee still runs like a champ
@blu_is500 Жыл бұрын
I loved this video! I’ve always been a major fan of both, thanks for posting.
@520overland Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!! Thanks for watching
@drewsky1008 Жыл бұрын
Phenomenal video and education on offroad and other great details awesome, well put together 💯😎
@520overland Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it! Glad you enjoyed it!
@JoeTaco83 Жыл бұрын
Before watching this video I will Still always take a Toyota 4Runner. Way more reliable and way more chance of it making it past 350k miles on the same engine vs the Jeep that it’s more of a miracle if it even gets to 200k miles.
@anthonybattaglia5126 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison...well done!
@520overland Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@hisaddle Жыл бұрын
I have a JKUR and had a 97 4Runner for daily driver in CO. Go to the tough trails in CO and UT and you mainly just see Jeep Wranglers. High country CO trails you do see Tacomas. I was in a 4x4 club in CO, formula was: get a Rubi, lift it, larger tires, aftermarket steel bumpers front and rear, winch, side rails to slide along the boulders, and you are good to go.
@derekreilly1356 Жыл бұрын
Reliability alone 4Runner takes the cake
@520overland Жыл бұрын
Maybe but I would definitely recommend checking this out kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gNCPkq5il9PbooE.html it makes some solid points on reliability vs ruggedness. That’s said, statistically my Jeep will probably end up spending more time in the shop in the future but who knows
@blueduster74 Жыл бұрын
🤣 no. The Toyota dealer works on just as many Tacomas and 4Runners as the jeep dealers. This brand loyalty stuff is hilarious.
@RLTW_03 Жыл бұрын
@@blueduster74 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 not even close
@terrynichol577 Жыл бұрын
@@blueduster74 don't be dumb fan boy
@dalepellerin Жыл бұрын
No, nothings ‘better’ at off-roading than a jeep. But I’ll still take my 4Runner off-roading over a jeep as I know it will always get me home and last twice as long. But pure off-road capability, the jeep is more capable and everyone who off-road knows that, especially all of us R4unner owners.
@520overland Жыл бұрын
I guess it depends on how rough the trail is too
@eric9432 Жыл бұрын
Good video. I've owned both ove the years and both are good vehicles. I personally don't see myself owning a jeep again after making the swap.
@cry_now_laugh_later Жыл бұрын
Umm jeeps are notorious for being pieces of junk. The reliable 4 runner is the way to go. That’s coming from a master mechanic.
@samsoniteman24 Жыл бұрын
Im in Rockies, I’ve had Tacoma TRD off road I found myself not using the crawl control only using 4 x 4 low and now a 4Runner sr5 it’s all about tires you’d be fine in basic 4x 4 low with Atrac and DAC.
@harrisonmcdowall2794 Жыл бұрын
I just thought you should know that the length number for the Jeep includes the spare tire. Just means the 4Runner has a considerably larger amount of interior room than the Jeep. Great comparison video BTW!
@520overland Жыл бұрын
Ah! Great point! Looks like the Jeeps actual length is around 184 inches and the spare tire adds about 4-5 inches.
@ChrisArrowood7309 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! I enjoyed and learned a bit. I am a new '21 T4R owner myself!
@520overland 6 ай бұрын
Congratulations!! Let me know if you have any questions on it!
@michaelcirlos150 Жыл бұрын
great video well done!
@toprankin1973 Жыл бұрын
Yes, Toyota is better in every way.
@erinmanners5033 Жыл бұрын
Don't let marketing fool you Jeeps are not reliable at all.....I would pick the 4 runner all day everyday
@profebillhawaii Жыл бұрын
Being a lifelong Jeep guy that swapped to TRD ORP I’m never going back.
@Col.JohnMatrix Жыл бұрын
Strictly for off road use and future modifications Jeep all day long. If its a pavement princess/mall crawler/DD then the 4 Runner is a solid option. Both are very nice and capable vehicles with great resale value!
@matthewschiebout7384 Жыл бұрын
the 4 Runner does a good job off-road and there are MANY options for modifications, but ignorance is bliss, as they say. Most Rubicons are pavement only vehicles too!
@zhester86 Жыл бұрын
Whoa! Soccer mom friendly sure, but it’s wrangler that is mainly driven by teenage girls that circulate the mall.
@michaeldbhawker3556 11 ай бұрын
Lmao. Winched out so many mechanically failed jeeps with my 2013 4runner in my day. Offroadability means shit when the mechanics crap out. Copium is strong with the jeep bitches. Now. Combine all yota mechanics in a jeep platform and yr onto something.
@bradleyjohnson3068 Жыл бұрын
After owning both, the 4Runner is very capable, but the Rubicon has vlear advantages over the Toyota from an off roading standpoint.
@520overland Жыл бұрын
Yup! That’s awesome you’ve had the opportunity to own both
@jeremielewis1575 Жыл бұрын
I’ve own 2 jeeps a 2door and 4 door. I now own a 4Runner. With my off road experience and I have a lot with all 3 vehicles, the 4Runner is definitely better. The jeep sucks if you have kids dogs or want to go over landing. So much more room and able to bring more with you with the 4runner
@bobquattrini1787 Жыл бұрын
The Toyota has a weak suspension with no flex and a weak motor and a 5 speed outdated automatic
@terrynichol577 Жыл бұрын
@@bobquattrini1787 your name is weak,.so.is your yuppie comment
@achilles5197 10 ай бұрын
@bobquattrini1787 weak argument. You obviously havnt seen the tough test of a stock 4runner.
@richardroach7127 Жыл бұрын
Had to pull out high centered 4dR with my 2007 4runner limited. Driver,who had to walk out,luckily came across me while I was bird hunting. Was concerned as to whether I could get to his vehicle. No problem. Previously owned a CJ 7 and a Cherokee. Have to say that there was very little difference between them and 4runner as far as off reading capabilities.
@adrianibarrajr9827 Жыл бұрын
These two are awesome suvs , wife and I got a 4runner and brother in law got a wrangler Rubicon. We went on a trail run and both cleared some nice task. Mine obviously did struggle a bit in one 😢 but made it out. I got all fa tory on mine and brother in law got 35s.
@14MAVD Жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks!
@dave1534 Жыл бұрын
Good video. Since I have a 2020 4RNR off-road, i’m more biased towards the 4RNR 😊 looking forward to more of your uploads. Sub’d
@joemcgee2918 Жыл бұрын
I have a Jeep in the garage and a 4runner for the wife. Nice trail.
@shornandkenny Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@520overland Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!!
@ra_redesignautomobiles Жыл бұрын
Both are the best!
@gxplore Жыл бұрын
Capability-wise, JKUR all the way (T4R 5th gen owner here) TRD Pro doesn't even compete.
@MCGaar Жыл бұрын
Drop dead gorgeous thumbnail. I’ve owned both and I love them
@520overland Жыл бұрын
Lucky!!
@Aries1rbh Жыл бұрын
I owned a 4 Runner while stationed in Japan it is a very capable vehicle. I have driven Jeeps for over a decade. Had the MW3 Rubicon Unlimited and would not hesitate to put it up against a 4Runner. Currently I own a Rubicon Gladiator and it is a better more capable off roader.
@robbergstrom943 Жыл бұрын
Gx460 owner here. Both platforms are great and we are fortunate to have the choice. If I spent more time offroad on more difficult tracks I’d buy a Jeep in a heartbeat. We do long overlanding treks of moderate or easy difficulty with little to no rock crawling and with large swathes of highway to and from so the Lexus suits us well. And contrary to comments above, my experience is that Jeeps can have much fewer breakdowns than Toyotas when you really push capabilities of the vehicles.
@520overland Жыл бұрын
GXs are awesome vehicles! And exactly! It all depends!
@JoeTaco83 Жыл бұрын
The Jeep will probably have less breakdowns when it come to suspension and axle maybe. But if we are talking about Engine Breakdowns…. We’ll you need to do some research my friend because the Toyota will always Shine when it comes to reliability.
@thomassanio8745 Жыл бұрын
Question about the 4Runner. I see you are running P285 70R17 tires with a 1.5 spacer lift. What is clearance in the wheel wells like at full lock on steering and full stuff on flex? Be interested in seeing if there is enough clearance with 1.5” of lift. I don’t want to go too high as I run a RTT up top but would like to run that sauce tire. Thanks. Great video, very informative.
@520overland Жыл бұрын
Just asked Alan (owner of the 4Runner) and he said that he had a small amount of rubbing at full turn but some minor trimming of the inner fender liners fixed that. He is also rocking -12mm offset wheels that help out with that. Thanks for watching!
@androidandtecnologia Жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks 👍
@alecnull Жыл бұрын
I have a Jeep and frequently wheel with Tacomas. IMO The biggest draw back to the Taco/4R is not the lack of suspension flex, but the approach angle and what it takes to fit oversized tires.
@520overland Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I’m able to fit 315/70r17 on the Rubicon with the stock suspension with only slight rubbing at flex. If the 4runner here wanted to do that it would definitely hurt his wallet
@vegetar7886 Жыл бұрын
Their both great vehicles, it's pretty much what do you like. I prefer the Toyota tho.
@janhbhugo5085 Жыл бұрын
Nice video !
@520overland Жыл бұрын
Thanks!! Glad you enjoyed it!
@takeover3731 Жыл бұрын
Google what is the most reliable car brand in the WORLD? nuff said
@Mjr1348 Жыл бұрын
Great vid
@520overland Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@briansbeemer Жыл бұрын
100% stock to stock would be a true comparison. Or give the Jeep the same lift and tire option.
@520overland Жыл бұрын
The Jeep is rocking 33s as well
@capmidnite Жыл бұрын
But which one can you take the top off and go cruising on a warm summer evening?
@520overland Жыл бұрын
Facts!!
@MichaelMiller-rg6or Жыл бұрын
Was the 1.5 inch spacer lift enough to keep the 33” tires from rubbing in the front?
@520overland Жыл бұрын
That plus the offset on the wheels keeps it from rubbing.
@topofthegreen Жыл бұрын
The four runner will out last the Jeep, JEEP Just Expect Every Problem.
@MechaTronic161 Жыл бұрын
3rd Gen. 4Runner here. Been in Tahuya several times, especially to the crazy trail called, “Trail 55”.
@520overland Жыл бұрын
Nice!! I really dig 3rd Gen. 4Runners. What mods, if any are you running?
@MechaTronic161 Жыл бұрын
Addicted Off-Road plate front bumper CBI Off-Road plate rear bumper WARN VR Evo 10-S Winch Savage Off-Road skid plates CBI Off-Road rock sliders Toyota/Aisin manual locking hubs Total Chaos front upper control arms Total Chaos rear control arms FOX Factory Series front coilovers OME rear 3”lift springs w/ Bilstein shocks 285/70 R17 KO2 tires w/ Tundra rims Tundra front brakes Eaton Detroit Truetrac LSD rear diffs.
@SanctumOfDreams Жыл бұрын
Even though people always say the Toyota will outlast the Jeep, interestingly enough that wasn't the case for my friend and I. His tacoma saw almost all pavement and ended breaking down on a commute to work. The transmission melted, about 65k miles. I haven't had a single problem with my jlu on a 3" lift and 35s over the 4 years of daily driving and going on trips down south and up the mountains. Sometimes it's not all black and white.
@camooo101 Жыл бұрын
Question. How is it that the 4runner has 11.3 inches of ground clearance when in reality should be around 10.6 with 33s as stock with 265s/31.6 is 9.6 inches of GC?
@520overland Жыл бұрын
Good question! The 4Runner is also rocking a spacer lift giving it that extra inch of ground clearance
@camooo101 Жыл бұрын
@@520overland How? When tires give additional ground clearance not spacer lifts. What size wheels?
@520overland Жыл бұрын
@@camooo101285/70r70 but I think I see what you mean. Since the the 4runner has IFS a space lift will improve the ground clearance up front but since the rear axle is solid, that ground clearance probably wont change. Ill definitely take into account the rear clearance for the next one. Good point!
@onebridge7231 Жыл бұрын
Both are nice.
@off-roadingexplained8417 Жыл бұрын
I actually was able to improve my (real world) breakover angle with spring rubbers (stiffens the suspension) with no change to ground clearance and no change therefore to "on paper" breakover angle. This was proven via a breakover obstacle that I just barley scrape. This is a functional difference. An important lesson is also that while stiffer suspension might not flex as well, it will hold ground clearance better! Weirdly, I didn't lose much corner travel flex at all when I did some corner travel tests. Perhaps the load in the corner travel test was great enough to overcome the stock suspension and the stiffened stock suspension. I'm not sure. All I can say is what happened. So even if the 4 runner and the Wrangler had exactly the same ground clearance and exactly the same wheelbase, because independent suspension winds up having higher wheel rates due to different motion ratios, it can wind up having better real world clearance - and I'm not even including the better center clearance that it usually has.
@520overland Жыл бұрын
That makes sense! I think I definitely oversimplified for my calculations in this video but definitely need to go through just suspension setups and changes more in depth. There are so many variables but thanks for explaining your changes with spring rubbers!
@monkeypolice3048 Жыл бұрын
Jp if you live on the country road, T4R both country and city. I'd own both if I have money.
@zalllon Жыл бұрын
Of course, the answer is no, you have to spend money on the 4Runner to make it as capable as a Rubicon. I have a mildly modified 2022 TRD Off Road because 95% of my driving is on the road, and plan to keep it 10yrs. 4Runner more comfortable driving it on the hwy and at speed in windy conditions.
@520overland Жыл бұрын
Yeah, though with 33s, the 4Runner definitely steps up it’s game! That’s true in regards to highway driving but have you tried the 8speed on the new Jeep? That transmission is insanely smooth.
@michaelcirlos150 Жыл бұрын
Do you mind sharing what lights you are running on the jeep front bumper?
@520overland Жыл бұрын
The Jeep is running 7inch AUDEXEN 105W Driving LED lights!
@michaelcirlos150 Жыл бұрын
@@520overland Awesome!
@adrianw3985 Ай бұрын
I've had a Tacoma, a 4Runner, and a Jeep. Toyota's are great, but if you plan to build up an off-road capable machine, you can't really touch a Jeep. A Rubicon will fit up to a 39-inch tire with a small lift. If you want to go 40 plus you should upgrade the axles. I still have a Land Crusier, and it can do a lot, but for serious off-roading, it's the Jeep. Before you say Toyota's are more reliable, the truth is that a Toyota in more extreme off-road breaks far more. Unfortunately, we can't get the more serious 70 series Land Cruiser here like Australia. Those would be at the top of my list...
@offgridhomesteadthemudpuddle Жыл бұрын
If you have a Jeep, modify it with bigger tires, lift and proper gearing.......if you have a Yota, modify it with bigger tires, lift, proper gearing and a solid axle swap. I have both and BOTH work great!....And don't forget, proper maintenance on both.
@520overland Жыл бұрын
Definitely! Proper maintenance is definitely overlooked!
@Justjeepingadventures Жыл бұрын
Disagree that the yoda would go to toe as I have had both. I love my yodas too! Great video though!
@MrRiffraf Жыл бұрын
looks like a fun trail
@520overland Жыл бұрын
Yeah! It’s a pretty dope spot! Thanks for watching
@kellstat Жыл бұрын
So, sounds like the 4runner is just better.
@BillyBobTup Жыл бұрын
Surprising!
@CharlesP78 Жыл бұрын
What rims are on the 4Runner ? And offset ?
@520overland Жыл бұрын
The 4Runner is rocking the Relations Race RR6-H Hybrid Beadlock wheels with a -12 offset! www.relationsracewheels.com/collections/toyota-4runner/products/rr6-h-17x8-5-6x5-5-6x139-7-hybrid-beadlock-toyota-tacoma-4runner-1?variant=40091644526674
@diman585 25 күн бұрын
It’s like comparing oranges to apples, both are fruits and both are edible. I think it would be fair to compare an entirely stock vehicles vs vehicles with modifications such as lift kits, spacers and larger tires. I own a Jeep Rubicon and for over landing it’s just as fine as a 4Runner (to me) I drove both and didn’t notice that much difference, now, ability to somewhat easily modify my vehicles and a huge aftermarket is a winning factor for me with the Jeep. I mean if you want your Jeep faster and quieter on a highway, don’t put 35’ or 37’ on, especially for overland driving it’s pointless and purely for looks.
@off-roadingexplained8417 Жыл бұрын
Independent suspension, as long as it has tires on the ground , will have BETTER traction if they had the same tire size. And remember most of the time your tires are on the ground. Once you get all of your angles over 30° or so life is pretty good. If you have approach and departure over 35° you're not really going to have any problems. And usually if you can get your break over above 28 or so you're not going to have any problems. Spacer lifts are fine. I have a 2 inch spacer. Yeah it rides a little stiffer but it's nothing that 3 psi lower tire pressure won't fix , really.
@520overland Жыл бұрын
Solid points!!
@spencerdixon98 Жыл бұрын
4Runner is better for daily driving not so rough on the road
@Sasquatchflow Жыл бұрын
Love both vehicles but I gotta go for the Toyota for reliability and quality control
@spencerdixon98 Жыл бұрын
I love both but o really like the look of the 4Runner
@520overland Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Alan (owner of the 4Runner) is putting together a really slick looking build!
@JoeTaco83 Жыл бұрын
The 4Runner looks way better with little to none body mods. A Jeep keeps looking almost the same boring style throughout the years and you have to do lots of crazy mods like lights and grills or the angry eyes.
@ep6606 Жыл бұрын
Hard to beat a Rubicon..
@mryikes9602 Жыл бұрын
So your trucks not level is still has a rake
@epicone2449 Жыл бұрын
Solid axle is just better for rock crawling. I have a Tacoma
@dundeeecroc Жыл бұрын
I have a 1985 Toyota 4runner SR5 on 35's with 5:29 gearing and is a factory manual.
@achilles5197 10 ай бұрын
21 trd off road premium and 22 sasquatch bronco owner, sold the bronco last week.
@520overland 10 ай бұрын
I would’ve done the same thing
@paulwilliams2024 Ай бұрын
Jeep wrangler is better off-roader better at performer on the trails , but the 4 runner overall is more dependable
@3rdgenbestgen21 Жыл бұрын
Let me just say this. I was tagging along with my friends on wrangler with 33” while I was on stock 1996 4runner😂. Out in Anza Borrego doing the Diablo Drop Off 😂😅
@520overland 6 ай бұрын
Those 3rd gen’s are the best 4Runners! Would love to hear the rest of that story
@MarreroBuilt Жыл бұрын
When I heard a KZfaqr say that their Jeep Gladiator is considered high mileage with 130,000 miles it shocked me. My 3Rd gen 4Runner has 230,000 miles and that's nothing for these vehicles. But Jeeps are more offroad worthy than Toyotas, especially with the FSA, and locker plus they have so many options and can be high horsepower compared to the 4Runners V6.
@520overland Жыл бұрын
Yeah, my Jeep is almost at 50k so based on that I guess it mid aged haha
@kamalgill3256 Жыл бұрын
But here is a problem, when you have low range, horsepowers dont matter, horsepower comes in play on open road but jeep doesnt have suspension to give you the full benefit of those extra horses. Price and space are better diffrentiators when it comes to comparing two.
@rickeycooley9139 Жыл бұрын
@@kamalgill3256agreed 👍
@cowelk Жыл бұрын
That was a good comparison. What was the new cost of the Rubicon? It seemed to be stock and if not stock with any modifications? What was the cost of the 4Runner with modifications including tires? I believe a comparable Jeep "out of the box" will out off-road a comparable 4Runner. As far as on-road, a 4Runner will be smoother but the transmission shifts a lot more while at highway speed in hilly or mountainous terrain.
@520overland Жыл бұрын
The Jeep brand new ran 52k. It probably has about 1.5k in modifications between the winch upfront and the steps/sliders. I believe the 4Runner was 45k and has about 5k in mods between the lift, wheels, tires, rack, and steps/sliders. Let me get back to you on that number though! I guess that brings up another good point in what would give you the best bang for your buck! Also, funny you brought that up about the transmissions. We were just talking about that. Engine power wise both vehicles have similar numbers but the 5speed transmission on the 4Runner definitely does a lot more shifting and doesn’t put down power as efficiently as the 8 speed in the Jeep.
@HotSizzleTV_ Жыл бұрын
Crazy you are in my state Washington Seattle.. I want the 4Runner I am waiting for the redesign to buy my first truck. Where is a good place to learn how to off road I am new to this scene.
@520overland Жыл бұрын
Tahuya ORV is a great spot as there is a bunch of different trails for all skill levels. If you are looking for an awesome off-road community, definitely check out Rigs and Adventures! facebook.com/groups/rigsandadventures
@HotSizzleTV_ Жыл бұрын
@@520overland thank you for this I’ll definitely check this out, the more knowledge the better, I never off-road before all the help is needed. Is that Facebook group local to Washington state ?
@520overland Жыл бұрын
@@HotSizzleTV_ it’s PNW based but slowly expanding! Most event you see at the moment though will be in Washington
@wpgeeth Жыл бұрын
It shouldnt even be a question. Toyotas hardly breakdown vs jeep always breaks down.
@jinoh7418 8 ай бұрын
Ive had both, now a 21 diesel wrangler. 4runners are capable, but the IFS limits the 4runner from deeper flexing, but IFS is better on desert trails for more speed and jumping. Jeeps crawls much better on mountain trails. On the maountain trails where i live, toyotas tend to slow down traffic on the badge of honor trails.
@520overland 6 ай бұрын
That seems to be right on the money!
@ttinnovations3310 Жыл бұрын
yes
@Sonofagreatdad Жыл бұрын
a 4 runner has a sway bar?
@520overland Жыл бұрын
It has kdss which effectively mimics a sway bar but what extra steps! Thanks for watching!
@Baebon6259 Жыл бұрын
now drive both till 200k miles then conduct another off-road test.
@520overland Жыл бұрын
Give me a few years and I’ll get back to you on that! Meanwhile, I do have a video of a Jeep JK with 200k miles off-roading posted up
@SomoneTookMyName Жыл бұрын
As much as I like Toyotas I would not get rid of my 2 door wrangler. Granted it has some serious mod on it. I would not trust a front independent suspension in many places where a solid axle setup would have no issue. Hell I was going to get a FJ some time back. They were put out to compete with the wrangler. Due to the front suspension the had many issues including roll overs. Where the jeep did not have these issues. Dont bash me for being pro jeep. I do like Toyotas a lot. An older full axle Toyota is far more capable then the newer ones.
@520overland Жыл бұрын
If I had a two door Jeep I wouldn’t get rid of it either! I get that. If I could I would definitely have both Jeeps and Toyotas in my garage. Thanks for watching!
@John-cz6it 10 ай бұрын
Is the trd pro completely stock?
@520overland 10 ай бұрын
It’s a TRD Off-road with the take off suspension from a TRD Pro and 33 in tires. So I guess technically yes but with slightly larger tires
@John-cz6it 10 ай бұрын
@@520overland great channel and I love the way you use your trucks. Can you fit 33’s on a TRD pro?
@healingenso7923 Жыл бұрын
The Rubicon is more commitment than most people truly want. I'd be more interested in what competes with the 2022 Grand Cherokee Trailhawk than Rubicon.
@520overland Жыл бұрын
That would be interesting! Don’t see too many newer Grand Cherokees on the trail though
@healingenso7923 Жыл бұрын
@@520overland - the 2022 Grand Cherokee Trailhawk is pretty good. But something of a 'push-button' off road vehicle. The 2023 GC is in Hybrid only and I don't think that will actually help sales. I had a Toyota FJ Cruiser for 10 years and it didn't have very much in the way of gadgets, it was just very good at what it did. I was going to wait for the 2024 4Runner, but as the new 4Runner appears to be coming in 2025, I don't know what I will be doing now.
@frasiec 3 ай бұрын
A rubicon is designed for crawling up slowly. Trd pro is Baja. You need to compare rubicon to the trail hunter trim or jeep Mojave to trd pro
@520overland 2 ай бұрын
Would love to get my hands on a trail hunter! They both definitely have their specialties. Thanks for watching!
@eurika7655 Жыл бұрын
I liked the trail
@TJ-hd5ym Жыл бұрын
Should have this tested on the rubicon trail.
@520overland Жыл бұрын
Hopefully we get there some day! Thanks for watching!
@brianflynn5491 Жыл бұрын
You tell them, Zach
@xzerbaluyot9994 Жыл бұрын
Is the 4Runner BETTER than a Jeep offroad? The answer is NO. BUT if I was to go somewhere in the middle of nowhere, I would rather take the 4Runner. Btw I have both.
@xzerbaluyot9994 Жыл бұрын
@jim kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fNt_eZB_qeCWpJc.html
@ricktodd3887 Жыл бұрын
Where is the oversize tires and lift on the jeep? Don't get Me wrong as I do like the Toyota but this is not a fair out of the box comparison and I feel it is biased
@520overland Жыл бұрын
I get you though having 33s on both vehicles made it a closer comparison by the numbers. We may have to do this again though if I ever put 35s on the Jeep!
@jdm8577 Жыл бұрын
The 4Runner had a spacer lift which is only for looks and to fit bigger tires bro. 😂😂😂 it’s little spacers installed on top of the stock suspension. 😂😂😂
@minegamer8437 Жыл бұрын
For hardcore rock crawler of course the Jeep wins because of the straight axle etc.
@rrd69ded Жыл бұрын
Now let’s compare reliability.
@terrynichol577 Жыл бұрын
4runner allday
@offhourscoffeeproject 11 ай бұрын
cool
@rand0mGT Жыл бұрын
Jeep requires more to do what the 4Runner does 😂😂
@barrya.6212 Жыл бұрын
THE TOYOTA HAS A LIFT...THE JEEP DOES NOT.... HOW IS THIS A EVEN COMPARISON ?? >> 7:40
@jdm8577 Жыл бұрын
The 4Runner had a spacer lift which is for looks only and to put bigger tires on it. You’re acting like the 4Runner had $6,000 worth of suspension under it like mine. My 4Runner would smoke that jeep and when it’s over and the Jeep is broke down I’ll tow it back laughing the whole way. 😂😂😂
@dereckjtbear2175 Жыл бұрын
You Are Not serious, there is No comparison. Like chalk and cheese.
@terrynichol577 Жыл бұрын
4runner is the Swiss Army knife of trucks jack of all trades master at none. Way comfort better to look at, I'm not crawling rocks everyday. Mild offroad, hauling dogs, daily driver 4runner is the better SUV.
@cjg1482 Жыл бұрын
I love my Toyota but out of the box, the jeep will be far better offroad. Even dollar for dollar, put the same money into a jeep and it’ll excel over the Toyota. This goes for the bronco too.
@cjg1482 Жыл бұрын
The Toyota will ride better on road and last longer.
@JoeTaco83 Жыл бұрын
Broncos are like a Mustang… made for the Ladies. 😂
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