Is A Harley Stage 2 Upgrade Worth The Money?

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Күн бұрын

In this video, I review the details of doing a Harley Stage 2 Upgrade on my Road Glide Special and answer the question is the juice worth the squeeze. The Harley Davidson Stage 2 upgrade can increase both torque and horsepower on the Milwaukee 8 107, 114 or 117. In my case I had all Harley Davidson Screamin Eagle components installed on my 2021 Road Glide Special. The Harley Stage 2 Upgrade involves moving from a
Stage 1 upgrade which is upgraded slip ons, a high flow breather, and changing the tune on the engine via a Screamin Eagle Pro Street
tuner. The Harley Davidson Stage 2 is the next step to get more performance out of the Milwaukee 8 motors by changing out the stock .335 cam to a higher lift camshaft such as the Screamin Eagle SE8-447 cam.
Component Breakdown and Cost
P/N Description Cost
92500047 Screamin' Eagle Milwaukee-Eight Stage II - Torque Kit $509.95
18572-13 Screamin' Eagle High-Capacity Tappets $274.95
24004-03B Screamin' Eagle Lefty Bearing $52.95
LABOR 6 hours $900.00
Subtotal $1,737.85
Optional on 2020 or Newer
62400260 Screamin' Eagle Pro High Volume Oil Pump & Cam Support Plate Kit $774.95
Total $2,512.80
The components listed here and in the video are for video purposes only. The actual components may be different for your specific application and year of bike. Make sure to check with your parts and service professionals before ordering the parts for your Stage 2 upgrade.
Chapters
00:00 Intro
01:41 What is a Stage 2 Upgrade
02:24 Cam Lift
04:51 Its All about the Tune
05:04 Components & Cost
08:58 Torque & Horsepower
12:29 Is it worth it?
14:46 Like, Share, Comment and Subscribe
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@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

This is a must watch if you are considering a Stage 2 upgrade on your Harley. In the video, I cover what is a Stage 2, which components are needed and the associated cost, review the horsepower and torque numbers as compared to the stock 114 and ultimately share my conclusion to the question, Is the juice worth the squeeze? Thanks for watching and please consider subscribing to the channel if you have already done so. Also hit the thumbs up, comment below and share this with your friends. Rick

@tax905972 11 ай бұрын

As for the tappets, just using new OEM ones is enough. On big builds,(stages 3 and 4) you would use the tappets you brought.

@tax905972 11 ай бұрын

Did you soak the tappets?

@HDVIBE 11 ай бұрын

Duane I used these to be extra safe. Don't want a failure and while the master technician was in there had them changed out. The old better safe than sorry. 👍

@HDVIBE 11 ай бұрын

The tappets were primed before installing them in the bike. 👊✌️👍

@andrewbaggley276 3 ай бұрын

As a complete amateur re bike mechanics, I found this to be an excellent point-to-point, keep-it-simple-to-explain-it-to-the-n00bs guideline. Thank you for making it clear how a Stage 2 upgrade works, what it's SUPPOSED to do, and potential trip-ups to detour around while in the process. All thanks, and keep 'em comin'.

@HDVIBE 3 ай бұрын

Thanks Andrew for watching and commenting. I appreciate your kind words. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍

@jayjackson5964 10 ай бұрын

thank you for the info and example with the graph. getting a stage 2 for my 2017 RG Ultra.

@HDVIBE 10 ай бұрын

Thank you Jay for watching and commenting. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍

@2147crew Жыл бұрын

Stage 2 is a good kit. Thanks for putting all of this together!

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking it out. It does the trick for me...I'm not a speed monster like you bro. Ride safe and enjoy. ✌️👊👍

@CAngel-gq8cm 17 күн бұрын

Great Video, Just subscribed. I recently purchased a new 2023 107 Street Glide and had the dealer do the SE Stage 2 torque kit day one before taking delivery! Included was the heavy breather, Bassani head pipe and Rinehart DBX45 exhaust. I'm approaching my first 1K miles and I still have a smile from ear to ear from the sound & performance of this upgrade. The bike pulls hard and jumps up to highway+ speed very nice fully loaded with 400+ lbs of people and gear.

@HDVIBE 17 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching, commenting, and subscribing. It's a great upgrade and like you I'm always smiling when I'm on the bike. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍

@JA-zh5xi 3 ай бұрын

Outstanding breakdown!

@HDVIBE 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👍✌️👊

@gregrivera2457 Жыл бұрын

I also did the 447 SE cam and love it. Ended up doing the Stage 2 for real cheap as I got Ebay new old stock parts that were dirt cheap. Went with factory pushrods as I'm not a fan of adjustables. Since I did all the work, it didn't affect the price other than gaskets besides it not being hard work at all. While I was in there also did the cam bearing, crank sprocket drom Feuling and S&S cuffs just for pleasing my OCD.

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

That sounds awesome Greg. So far I am super pleased with the 447 cam. If you are already a subscriber...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for the support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍

@bradwilliams4921 10 ай бұрын

Good, clear information. Thank you. Ride safe.

@HDVIBE 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Brad for watching and commenting. I appreciate your support. Ride safe and enjoy.✌️👊👍

@Darrells.. Жыл бұрын

I think it’s going to be my winter time project,stage 2 in old and hopefully new bike,thanks for the advice👍👍

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thanks Darrell for watching and commenting. I appreciate your continued support to the channel. Ride safe and enjoy. ✌️👍👊

@TheHarleyTech Ай бұрын

This is a really good video. Great job

@HDVIBE Ай бұрын

Thanks John. I am honored by your comment. I'm not sure if you have subscribed to the channel, but, I would be honored if you would consider doing so. Ride safe and enjoy. ✌️👊👍

@adamsgrizzly01 11 ай бұрын

Well my 2022 cvo road glide is definitely sluggish when trying to pass always down shifting nice to know the fuel mileage doesn’t go downhill with a better passing aspect looking forward to getting this done to our Harley thanks for your advice and knowledge

@HDVIBE 11 ай бұрын

Thanks Adam for watching and commenting. For the 117 motor you will have to go to the SE8 462 power cam for a Stage 2. The SE8 447 cam I used on the 114 is not recommended for the 117 as the 432 cam in the 117 is very close to the SE8 447 cam in terms of lift and torque. I recently did a Stage 1 upgrade on my 2023 Street Glide ST with the Screamin Eagle pro street tuner...I noted a nice improvement in throttle response. My advice is talk with the service advisor and or the master tech at your dealership. They can point you in the right direction. If you are already a subscriber thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍

@JRBACZYK Жыл бұрын

Very informative, I have been considering stage 2 upgrade 🇺🇸👍👍👍

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thanks John for watching and commenting. I have been extremely pleased with the Stage 2. Thanks your support and ride safe. ✌️👍👊

@dshall442 Жыл бұрын

Just did a stage 2 on my new to me 2012 Ultra. Feuling 543 kit went in without issue, got a new map from V&H for my FP3 and I’m good to go. Totally worth it when I found the kit on the clearance table at the local shop for $1300 all in.

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a great find and set up. Thanks Dan for watching and commenting. If you are already a subscriber thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👍✌️👊

@corynelson2021 Жыл бұрын

Subscribed...for some time now...great content, stage 2 is a thought for my 21 flhxs

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thank you Cory. I appreciate the support. Ride safe and enjoy. ✌️👍👊

@zeerozeero243 Жыл бұрын

I have a stage 2 upgrade on my 2019 Road King ,glad I did it

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thanks John for watching and commenting. It's great to hear that the Stsge 2 is working well for the Road King. If you are already a subscriber...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👍✌️👊

@jasonbreedlove495 Жыл бұрын

Great video. For me the stage 2 is definitely worth it. I went with a fueling 465 in my 17 SGS and my price was right about what yours was, maybe closer to mid 1800. Love the feel, the power and the sound.

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thanks Jason for watching and commenting. The Stage 2 certainly wakes up the M8 motor. Thanks for the support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍

@gerrydavisjr.3589 5 ай бұрын

Just had a couple of my bikes upgraded with the HD Stage 2 Kits. with the Screamin Eagle Torque CAM along with the KromeWerks header that uses the stock shields. So no CAT! That'll be paired with the TAB Performance pipes I already had installed on the bikes with the Zombie baffles. It sounds awesome! Using the Screamin Eagle tuner so I can keep my warranty. Very similar setup you have. I watched your videos and dedided to go a similar route. I know I could get more performance out of a 3rd Party CAM and Tuner, but this really does bump up performane and I get to maintain for HD warranty, especially since I hae an extended warranty. My local dealer also had me replace the stock HD Tappets and a few other odds and ends too. Again, pleased thus far. May use the new Bluetooth based Pro Tuner and let it help record and tune as you've mentioned in other videos. Keep up the good work with all of your videos. Learning alot. But it does get me spending more money LOL.

@HDVIBE 5 ай бұрын

Thanks Gerry for watching and commenting. I really appreciate the kind words and support. Likes and comments go a long way to help build the channel. I really like the SE8 447 cam on the 114. Add some smart tuning and you get a great running bike. Thanks for your support. ✌️👊👍

@RidingandWrenching Жыл бұрын

Great content! I recently did a stage 2. My only regret is the noise. I had a TAB header installed with TAB zombie baffles in the muffler. I'm switching to louvered baffles to lower the noise. The power is great, no impact on fuel economy

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thanks Cue for watching and commenting. I have the Rinehart DBX 45s on the Road Glide Special and with the Stage 2 its just slightly louder than the CVO or ST with the 117 stage 1 with same DBX45s. Ride safe and enjoy. ✌️👊👍

@OMGMOTO Жыл бұрын

Great info on the stage 2 brother.

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thanks brother for watching and commenting. I appreciate your support. Ride safe and enjoy. ✌️👊👍

@RidersUnited Жыл бұрын

Great informational video. I will say Stage 2 is the best buck for the money in gain of usable power so I agree 100%

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thanks Art for watching and commenting. I am very happy with the upgrade for sure. Ride safe and enjoy. ✌️👍👊

@CD-lm5xq 2 ай бұрын

I just subscribed. Great Video!! 👍👍👍

@HDVIBE 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching, commenting, and subscribing. I look forward to seeing your comments on other and future videos. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👍✌️👊

@FreedomRider1982 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for " the mention" on your previous video 👍

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

You are welcome 👊

@FreedomRider1982 Жыл бұрын

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@ChristianKustomz Жыл бұрын

We did the HD Stage ll on my wife's 107 Lowrider back in 2019. She's still rippin' on it to this day. Def. worth the $ imo

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for sharing your experience. I appreciate your continued support to the channel. Ride safe and enjoy. 👍✌️👊

@Silverbulletzx3 9 ай бұрын

I recently bought a 2021 Street Bob 114 that came with the SE Stage II Torque cam, bassani black ripper exhaust and SE tuner. Only 1800 miles on her. I test rode a stock 2023 Street Bob right after the 2021. The difference was day and night. It had pretty much 95% of the mods on it already that I'd do myself. Basically a bargain! I absolutely love it!

@HDVIBE 9 ай бұрын

Yes, the Stage 2 really wakes up the M8 motor. Sounds like you found a great bike...enjoy it. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👍👊

@fililoboesparza5784 11 ай бұрын

Great 411video thanks for making the time to do this video. You don’t see too many guys putting screaming eagle. I’ve been considering putting the stage ll screaming on mine 107 M8 think I’m going to pull the trigger..

@HDVIBE 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting. For me being the bike is under warranty, screamin eagle was the way to go. I've talked with others that have put the SE8 447 cam in their 107...and they are very pleased with the results. If you are already a subscriber...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍

@fililoboesparza5784 11 ай бұрын

@@HDVIBE yes, I subscribed this morning. My 2018 ultra limited 107 Is out of warranty, but don’t want to go aftermarket, I already have it with a SE stage I rather go with H-D i’m not a hard rider anyways i’m just a cruiser.. but riding two up, could use a little more torque..

@HDVIBE 11 ай бұрын

That will do it. Thanks fir your support. Much appreciated. 👊✌️👍

@robertarmstrong4445 Ай бұрын

I absolutely love your video and pros and cons of upgrading to a stage 2 torque conversion. My local dealer wants almost 5K and it doesn't include the high volume oil pump and cam support plate...smh. I'm thinking I have to learn how to do this kind of stuff myself

@HDVIBE Ай бұрын

Thanks Robert for watching and commenting. I appreciate your kind words. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍

@Heritagejim5339 Жыл бұрын

Spot on! I did a stage 2 on my Sport Glide all SE parts & torque cam. Hp 92, torque 113 on a 107 I’m happy. 1800 was about right for parts & install 😎

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thanks Jim for watching and providing your input and experience. If you are already a subscriber...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed, I'd be honored if you'd consider doing. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👍👊

@breedlofam 9 ай бұрын

For me it definitely was. I did the work myself, so saved quite a bit there. I went with a Wood 22xe cam on my 2018 107 Street Bob. Massive difference in stock HP vs after upgrade. I'm pulling 111/119 on the dyno with my 22xe, upgraded oil pump, Sawicki Mid Length 2-1, FuelMoto AC/DC with +1 high flow filter and 64mm TB and injectors. I have a 124 on another 2018 Street Bob with a very similar setup running 135/145. My biggest issue is the 6 hours of labor they are charging. It's a 3 hour job, especially since they aren't really tuning the bike, but just throwing a canned tune from the SE tuner on it.

@HDVIBE 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting. That is awesome that you are able to do the Stage 2 upgrade yourself. If you have the proper tools, it's not too difficult...but as they say..the proper tools make the difference. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👍👊✌️

@surfczar 2 ай бұрын

Absolutely worth it. I even went the full length and changed the stock headers to Rinehart.

@HDVIBE 2 ай бұрын

Thanks Larry for watching and sharing your input on the topic. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍

@robbyclark6915 Жыл бұрын

That’s well worth the price of admission to me! That torque cam is hitting 110 by 25-2600 rpm, and maxing out at 118 at 3500 and staying busy way past the rev range I ride my 114 in. I typically stay between 2500-3500 rpm while cruising and that’s a great increase in torque in that range! My Low Rider S would love that cam! I can’t imagine what a difference that would make on my 680lb motorcycle! I gotta get this done within the not too distant future.

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thanks Robby for watching and commenting. I can't even imagine the pull on the Low Rider S with that much lower weight to power ratio. It would be a ripper. If you are already a subscriber...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍

@robbyclark6915 Жыл бұрын

@@HDVIBE Yessir, already subbed a couple months ago

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Much appreciated. 👊

@MrDoyle07 8 ай бұрын

I have the stage two in my 2018 FLTRXS and I think it’s the best money I spent on upgrades to my bike. It is fully awake and ready to go and aggression ready if I need it at all times and in all 6 gears. I also like not having to drop a gear if I need to give life a spanking. It increased the exhilaration factor enough to make me know I can step out from the congestion whenever I need to whereas before the stage 2 upgrade I might hesitate to pound it and try to shoot out from the traffic pinches. No single thing woke up the beast in this Mil 8 more than that stage two upgrade.

@HDVIBE 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and sharing your experience with the Stage 2. I'm always smiling when I ride the Road Glide Special. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍

@mitch_9219 Жыл бұрын

I just watched the video, very informative. I did the same thing to my 2021 SGS. I believe you have a part number wrong. You are correct that the bearing that is usually replaced is the CAM needle bearing, but the part number you listed is for the replacement right side roller bearing that supports the right side of the crank shaft ( Part Number: 24004-03B).

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thanks Craig for watching and commenting. You are correct in the bearing...I did in error pick up the incorrect part number for the CAM needle bearing...thank you for listing the correct PN. I have been very pleased with the upgrade and smile from ear to ear every time I crack the throttle. If you are already a subscriber...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👍👊

@velikijoxotnik 8 ай бұрын

Really good video. I've had my '22 RGS for about 10 months and 25K miles. I just did a Stage 1 and am planning a Stage 2, but wasn't quite sure what to expect, as far as horsepower and torque increase and how it mapped relative to RPM. Your video gave me all of the info that I was looking for. I doubt that I'll go farther than Stage 2, but I definitely plan to do a Stage 2.

@HDVIBE 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting. This channel is all about sharing information so the viewers are armed with info to make choices on how to or why to do something. If you have already subscribed to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍

@velikijoxotnik 8 ай бұрын

@@HDVIBE , I''ve been subscribed for quite a while. I enjoy your videos, and find them very informative and useful. Thanks.

@HDVIBE 8 ай бұрын

@velikijoxotnik Thank you very much. 👍✌️👊

@velikijoxotnik 8 ай бұрын

@@HDVIBE, I stopped by dealership, after a HOG chapter ride today. I'm friends with the head service guy. He confirmed everything that you'd said in your video, but did urge me to do the upgraded tappets with the performance torque cam. I'd pretty much decided to go that route anyway. He also said that they're currently running a special on the Screaming Eagle Stage 2 Torque Cam right now. So, I'll probably do the Stage 2 upgrade more quickly than I'd planned.

@HDVIBE 8 ай бұрын

@velikijoxotnik Nice. I think you definitely will be pleased with the Stage 2. 👍✌️👊

@chrisbarber356 Ай бұрын

Did a stage 2 for my 2004 Road King. Definitely worth it!!

@HDVIBE Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting with your input on the topic. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍

@henrydhamster1093 8 ай бұрын

It was about 1800 for me to do a stage 2 to my 2011 Street Glide. Woods 222 cam for the long torque curve, S&S cam plate and oil pump, Timken cam bearings while I was there. S&S lifters, pushrods and gasket kit. Also, since I was doing it myself I had to buy about $150 worth of specialty tools (included in that $1800). Got the bike dyno tuned without needing to buy a tuner, so that was another $950 bucks. $250 of that was getting my ECM licensed to be reprogrammed.

@HDVIBE 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and sharing your experience and set up. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍

@kellybgliding Жыл бұрын

It’s definitely worth it. I have a stage 2 with a 30/30 star racing .485 cam and it really woke up the bike.

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thanks Kelly for watching and sharing your set up. I appreciate your support. Ride safe and enjoy. ✌️👍👊

@carlbruhn1772 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Love the 30/30. 2000-4500 table top torque.

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Nice ✌️👊👍

@morrisdennis 10 ай бұрын

I did one on my road king m8 and it was imo totally worth it! S&S 475 se tuner...

@HDVIBE 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting. Sounds like you have a great set up with the S&S 475. That is a great cam. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍

@jamesbehrens6186 10 ай бұрын

Wow.. thanks so much for showing your part numbers and costs. I just called up my shop to get a quote for this, I actually had to give the guy the part numbers from your sheet.. I have a 2019SG with the 107. Makes me wonder if the guy actually made sure the part numbers were correct for my bike. Makes me think I should shop around. Sad.. this shop has done everything that has been done on this bike.

@HDVIBE 10 ай бұрын

You are welcome. The parts should be correct for the 107. The only exception I listed the wrong part number for the inner cam bearing. It should be PN 24018-10. There should also be a few gaskets etc as well. Thanks for watching and commenting. Hope the build goes well. I think you will be pleasantly surprised when the cam is installed. More smiles with every mile. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍

@cjg431 Ай бұрын

Had a stage 2 on my 20 rk woke the bike right up. Now have a 22 road glide special I am thinking about doing it to. Already have the blue tooth tuner and high flow exhaust.

@HDVIBE Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting with your input and perspective on the topic. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍

@NVET92 Жыл бұрын

Had stage 2 done to 2022 RKS, using the Harley screaming eagle parts (torque cam). Very satisfied with the performance of the engine. In addition to pro street tuner, also added a wide band (auto) component which supposedly auto adjusts fuel/O2 mix. Overall, think the HD stage 2 upgrade is cost efficient, keeps the bike conformed to emission standards (and maintains factory warranty), while producing sufficient hp/torque demands for my style of riding.

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thanks Charles for watching and for sharing your experience. I appreciate your support and ride safe. ✌️👍👊

@tax905972 11 ай бұрын

Auto-pro street tuners are only necessary if you're riding the higher elevations.

@larrys.3992 5 ай бұрын

I did SE stage 2 on my 2018 Heritage Softail. Enjoying the same performance.

@HDVIBE 5 ай бұрын

@larrys.3992 Thanks Larry for watching and sharing your input on the topic. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍

@marcot-mrk7178 Жыл бұрын

Great video.

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and commenting Marco. I appreciate the kind words. If you are already a subscriber...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for the support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍

@ICEMAN-HDnorth 10 ай бұрын

I have a 2019 SG CVO with a stock 117, looking to update the oil pump to the current HD 2020+ stock model and thinking about Stage II performance kit since the cam chest is open with an SE Pro Tuner. Thoughts on this? Bike has about 15,000 miles on it now. No issues to date other than transmission vent update is complete.

@HandlebarGarden Жыл бұрын

Yes I agree, no point in going any further than stage 2. Unless you go straight to stage 4 from the beginning. I went with torque cam and on the dyno, 100hp 120tq. I was pleased.

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thanks Handlebar for watching and commenting. Your perspective is right on point. Then Stage 4 is a whole lot of money. If you are already a subscriber...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for the support and ride safe. ✌️👍👊

@jefftatum3562 11 ай бұрын

What cam did you use to get those numbers and what bike were they installed in thanks

@HandlebarGarden 11 ай бұрын

@@jefftatum3562 I used the SE as they say torque cam. And decatted it. We have video on it on our channel Handlebar Garden.

@HDVIBE 11 ай бұрын

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@joepina1264 10 ай бұрын

I subscribed getting ready to do a stage two on my ST

@HDVIBE 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Joe for watching and commenting and subscribing. What cam are you going to use? I appreciate your support. Ride safe and enjoy. 👍✌️👊

@joepina1264 10 ай бұрын

Screaming eagle Torch kit

@joepina1264 10 ай бұрын

Torque kit

@HDVIBE 10 ай бұрын

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@mikedehart9708 8 ай бұрын

Great Video

@HDVIBE 8 ай бұрын

Thanks Mike for watching and commenting. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍

@tax905972 10 ай бұрын

New oem tappets,the high capacity ones are for big engine upgrades starting with the stage 3and 4

@HDVIBE 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting. Ride safe and enjoy. ✌️👍👊

@fldad32USA 8 ай бұрын

I just ordered a Stage 2 for my 21 SG 107. The only thing not HD is the new head pipe and slip-on mufflers. I went with TABS Headpipe and Cobra slip-ons. My bike has done awesome as stock, but this should really wake it up and help going cross country rides.

@HDVIBE 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting. I am sure you will be pleased once the Stage 2 is installed. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍

@anotherbrickinthewall1700 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review. Do you think changes are required to the clutch in any way? Was it recommended?

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and commenting. With this upgrade there is no clutch adjustment or upgrading needed. If you are already a subscriber thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍

@llawwncorwynt1469 2 ай бұрын

21 RG, I did Rhinehart racing header and slip ons, Arlen ness breather, Dynojet Tuner with tune from dynojet. S&S 465c cam. She is a beast. Screw screaming eagle tuners.

@HDVIBE 2 ай бұрын

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@KrakensGarageandAdventures Жыл бұрын

Good to hear that you feel it was a great investment. There is nothing worse than spending the money and feeling let down.

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your time today Eric. I appreciate your support. ✌️👍👊

@dondasher58 6 ай бұрын

I have a stock bike at the moment. Just purchased this bike a month ago. I’m looking at Stage 2 with full KW exhaust and louvered baffles. I don’t want super loud and I love that low rumble of the KW pipes. I started pricing it up with my local Harley shop today. I’ll stay with SE since I have the extended warranty on my 2021 117 motor CVO. My biggest gripe with Tab was that you have to take the muffler off to bang the baffles out. So I’ll go with KW and just remove screws on slip the baffles out if I change my mind on baffles. I’d plan on riding to Sturgis is next year. Would the torque cam cause any increase in gas consumption? So much of the. Riding will be open road and I’m sure 80mph plus.

@HDVIBE 6 ай бұрын

Thanks Don for watching and commenting. I have had the Stsge 2 SE8447 cam in the road glide for about 8 or 9 months. My gas mileage is exactly the same as on my 2 Stage 1 117 bikes. I'm getting around 40 MPG. I tend to ride my bikes at higher RPMs, so I tend to get a bit lower fuel economy than others. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊👍✌️

@norbertmaron3635 2 ай бұрын

Nice awesome video man,I thinking about buying a 2023 HD TRIGLIDE ULTRA w/114..iam thinking about a STAGE 1 & 2 ..is this a good cam to buy for trike..I want to stick with screaming eagle parts to because I want to buy a extended warranty with no bullshit obstacles when I need warrant work..also I had a 2014 triglide ultra w/103..I had STAGE 1,2,3 done back then..also what year bike did you put your stage 2 on... .... thanks Storman Norman..

@HDVIBE 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting. I have been very happy with the SE8 447 cam. Gives you much better low end torque than stock and it sounds really good at idle giving just the right amount of lope. I'd definitely recommend it especially if you are wanting to stay in warranty. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍

@jrharper5459 Жыл бұрын

I have a 2023 Road Glide Special, thinking about doing the cam swap.

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thanks JR for watching and commenting. If you do decide to do it, I don't think you will be disappointed. I smile everything I hit the throttle. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👍👊

@user-fp4ji6nc4s 6 ай бұрын

I subscribed, about to buy a new bike in a couple months.

@HDVIBE 6 ай бұрын

Thanks Korey for watching and subscribing to the channel. I look forward to seeing your comments on other and future videos. Thanks for your support and ride safe when you get that new bike. 👊✌️👍

@scottthurman9368 Жыл бұрын

thanks

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting Scott. I appreciate your support. Ride safe and enjoy. ✌️👍👊

@bg19989 25 күн бұрын

I'm getting ready for a Stage 2 on my 2017 FLTRU with 60k mi on it. The existing Stage 1 consists of a Fullsac Touring Head pipe and recore kit, S&S Air Cleaner (next time I'd go with Arlen Ness as I did with previous bikes), FP3 tuner. I'm doing the stage 2 because the stock lifters are failing (just like my 103TC did at 75k mi.). Fullsac recommends the SE447. I don't like adjustable push rods. Are the stock push rods the correct length, if not what solid push rod should I use or what length is needed? I know I'll need to R&R the rockers but not a big deal to me, yes I'm doing it myself. Warranty is not an issue so I'm open to other cams but I don't want to compromise mpg. Also I did subscribe. Thanks for anything you can offer.

@HDVIBE 25 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching, commenting, and subscribing. So the reason most use adjustable push rods when doing a Stage 2 is tp avoid taking off the top end. If you are already doing that, then putting in solid push rods is not an issue. The se8 447 is a good cam in my opinion. It brings on torque as you roll on the throttle. The other option is the SE8 462...or the S&S 465. Both have good low end torque and give you more power in the higher rpms. I'm personally not a fan of the S&S 475 cam. You loose low end torque and runs best at the 4000 and up rpm range. At take off, it almost stutters a bit. At least those that I know personally that have the 475 that's what they complain about it. Hope that helps. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍

@dalmaciomorales2798 11 ай бұрын

Just subscribed. I have a 2020 RGL and I'm looking into the stage 2 and you have me convenced to do it until you said the it runs much hotter. I'm not sure that I'm looking forward for the engine to run hotter since by nature the M8 engine runs pretty hot. Also how is the fuel consumption now with the stage 2. I heard from another blogger that after the stage his bike was giving him a better mileage. I appreciate if you answer my comment,

@HDVIBE 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for subscribing. I think my reference to running hotter was not temperature but faster/quicker. I haven't noticed any increase in temperature even now that I'm getting into hot weather riding. I hope that clarifies my choice of words. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍

@HDVIBE 11 ай бұрын

As far as mileage goes, I typically get 38 to 39 mpg. However, last week I check it on that particular fill up and I got 41 mpg. It really depends on your riding style. I tend to run in the 3000 to 3800 rpm range.

@ocglide2566 Жыл бұрын

A stage 2 upgrade on an M8 wakes the bike up, I used a Red Shift 468 cam on my bike and love it. I bought all S&S for the rest of it Cam plate and oil pump, lifters and push rod kit. Cost me around $1200 in parts but luckily enough I can do the swap myself which saved labor. No Dyno numbers I could care less about that you can feel it in the butt dyno. Bought it all from Fuel Moto, already had the Power Vision Tuner obviously not an option for someone worried about warranty.

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting. If you are already a subscriber thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for the support and ride safe. ✌️👍👊

@STAYHUMBLE302 8 ай бұрын

Do you think it’s worth doing the SE eagle torque cam on my fxbb 107 if my warranty is already up or should I just go with after market Tuner and cam like a woods Right. Now I have stage one with Arlen ness bs and tbr 2-1 with the SE tuner Any advice would be great

@HDVIBE 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting. If warranty is not a concern, I would go aftermarket and get a great tune. The SE tuner can only do so much as it has to keep the bike within EPA specs. Aftermarket opens up a whole new level so to speak if peak torque and horse power is what you are chasing. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍

@scottsollars1609 4 ай бұрын

I have a 2003 Heritage anniversary cerebrated can I put a stage 2 on it or how do I increase the power on it?

@HDVIBE 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting. You can do a Stage 2 on the 2003 heritage to increase power and torque. I would suggest talking with your local HD Dealership to get the specifics for your bike. However, first step is a Stage 1, which is a higher flowing breather, non stock slip ons and a tuner. If you don't have that done on the bike, give that a try. You will have to do that anyway before moving to a Stage 2 cam uograde. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👍👊

@philipjanes Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the good video. I have a question. I've already done stage 1 with slip ons. The majority of my riding is 60-62mph on back road trips. Believe it or not I'm getting 45-47 mpg. Which i find to be awesome. How does this affect your mileage and by how much?

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thanks Philip for watching and commenting. That is great gas mileage. The best I have ever gotten is 41 mpg. I typically get 38 to 39 mpg and that's what I get on the Stage 2 and I also get the same on my CVO and ST with the Stage 1. So I don't think it has much impact on mpg. My though is it mostly depends on your riding style. I tend to ride a bit more aggressive running generally between 3,000 to 4,000 rpm range. If you are already a subscriber...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👍✌️👊

@philipjanes Жыл бұрын

@@HDVIBE Subscribed and thanks for the reply. Yes, I ride mostly tame under 3k rpm. I really didnt care about mpg until i started checking my mileage on this bike. Plus, running premium cost more. Not that I cant afford it, I just get real happy when I realize my stage 1 M8 is faster than most stage 2 twin cams, and I get better mpg.

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

The M8 motor is really nice. I also had a 103 twin cam and once I went to the M8....wow. Ride safe and enjoy. 👍✌️👊

@goatandyourmom9690 9 ай бұрын

See my bike came with a twin cam Screaming Eagle 110B. The "B" means counterbalanced. So does that make it a stage 3 103 from the factory? I don't know much about the 110 except for that they weren't really put on a whole lot of bikes.

@HDVIBE 9 ай бұрын

@brucespencer7567 6 ай бұрын

One more ?what ur suggestion on 117 on stage 2 torque or power

@HDVIBE 6 ай бұрын

Hey Bruce...so Harley doesn't not support the SE8 447 CAon the 117...primarily because the stock 432 can will run very close to the 447. So if you stick with screamin eagle, your option is the SE8 462 cam. The other option is go to Stage 3 122 kit then you get the SE8 447 Torque cam. At the end of the day, it depends on how you ride. I'm contemplating both options but haven't yet decided which way I may go. If you look at the Torque curve on the 117 with the SE8 462 cam it's a jump over stock under 3,000 rpms but it is a little flat between 2,500 and 3,000 rpms. However it is still better than the stock 432 cam. You will get good lope sound with the 462 cam...probably even better than the 447 cam on my RGS 114 since it is a higher lift cam. 👊✌️👍

@brucespencer7567 6 ай бұрын

I see u did not do a117engine stage 2 I have a 2022 CVO does that have a stage 2 in it already just wondering what comes with it Stock an what size is the cam guess u don’t know the numbers off it?

@HDVIBE 6 ай бұрын

Bruce, the 117 engines in the CVO and ST models have a 432 cam stock. If you do a Stage 2 on a 117 with Harley Screamin Eagle, your only choice is the SE8 462 cam. Harley considers this the Power Cam. The torque and horsepower come on stronger just above 3,000 rpms. I hope that answers your question. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊👍✌️

@marathonrefrigeration9593 5 ай бұрын

Perhaps you could answer a question of mine. With screaminng eagle stage one air filter and screaming eagle slip ons , would that be good for the rest of the stages?

@HDVIBE 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting. The air filter and slip ons will work for the stages. If you use the screamin eagle tuner base maps for the Stage upgrades, the map is actually developed for the screamin eagle breather and slip ons. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍

@marathonrefrigeration9593 5 ай бұрын

You're awesome, thank you. Subbed!

@HDVIBE 5 ай бұрын

@marathonrefrigeration9593 Thank you. I appreciate the support. 👊

@andrewwatt8726 Жыл бұрын

Its not so much the Cam, its all about the tuner you use afterwards in the end. Thats what will really wake-up the bike. Gotta go aftermarket in that regard.

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thank you Andrew for watching and commenting. The tune makes all the difference. I appreciate your support and ride safe. ✌️👍👊

@m.simpson6843 5 ай бұрын

06' RK V88 is it worth it while changinging the cam tensioners?

@HDVIBE 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting. I believe that for that year, the cam tensioner was recalled by HD. If possible, check with the service department at your local HD dealer. If it was replaced by an HD dealer, they should have a record of the replacement in the system. If it hasn't been replaced, it would probably be a good idea to change them out. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍

@rayspasov1398 4 ай бұрын

Any info specs on streetbob 114 ,stage 1 or stage 3 ECT?

@HDVIBE 4 ай бұрын

Thanks Ray for watching and commenting. Unfortunately I don't have the specs handy for the Softail line. However, I do believe you can find it on the HD website or in the HD parts and accessories catalog in the screamin eagle section. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍

@jasongaudreau2075 4 ай бұрын

Little bit of confusion…I’m at 15:40 of the video and you’re talking about cam lift and mention the “piston lift is higher for longer duration”….? I thought cams lift valves….and crankshafts lift pistons. Another question for me is (and I’ll hopefully find out after typing this and continuing with the video), is if the cam lobe goes higher, won’t the valve stems need to be shortened? And if so, do the valve springs need to change length? And do the materials used in said valve springs affect dyno numbers??? We’ll see. I got a (new to me) 2022 street glide special in apex black and I want a louder (black) exhaust and cam for lumpy idle. Being new I’d like to use Harley parts. Stage 2 or 3 etc etc without too much involved. (Not even considering some 131 motor overhaul here. Just some bolt on upgrades.

@HDVIBE 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting. Hopefully it seems your questions were answered by watching the entire video. If you do go to a very high lift cam...you do need to get upgraded springs to handle the higher lift pressure. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍

@derfskittlers6125 Жыл бұрын

How do these mods affect longevity? Im used to doing a simple air and exhaust upgrade byt havent done anything more.

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

I can't say with 100% certainty the impact long term as this is the first bike I have had a Stage 2 put on. It's really not very extensive of an upgrade overall. A bolt in cam is a pretty common upgrade on many Harleys. In my case I have the Extented Service Plan so I'm safe for at least 3 more years. Thanks for watching and commenting. Ride safe and enjoy. ✌️👊👍

@derfskittlers6125 Жыл бұрын

@@HDVIBE ok, thanks for your honesty.

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

You are welcome. If you are already a subscriber...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks and ride safe. 👊👍✌️

@patrickhollis5332 18 күн бұрын

I thought the stock was like 350 intake and 370 exhaust are around that

@NorthWest910 10 ай бұрын

Subscribed.

@HDVIBE 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and subscribing to the channel. I look forward to seeing your comments on other and future videos. Thanks for your support. Ride safe and enjoy. ✌️👊👍

@trophyhilll 22 күн бұрын

Have you tried the SE 511 cam on anything?

@HDVIBE 22 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting. I have not tried or know of anyone that has used the 511 cam. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍

@jaybird9255 3 ай бұрын

I subscribed 🎉

@HDVIBE 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching, commenting and subscribing. I appreciate your support. I look forward to seeing your comments on other and future videos. Ride safe and enjoy. ✌️👊👍

@lipsio 11 ай бұрын

Would you upgrade your ST to Stg. 2? I own one, and am thinking about it. Rumor has it the STs have a "close to stage 2" cam from factory. Would love to hear your thoughts. Keep up the great work!

@HDVIBE 11 ай бұрын

I have thought about going to Stage 2 on the ST. Harley doesn't spec the SE8 447 torque cam for the 117 ST or CVO motor because as you mentioned the lift from the stock 432 cam is not much different than the 447 cam. If you go stage 2, and stay screamin eagle, you have to go to the power cam which is the SE8 462 cam. This cam likes to run in the higher RPMs to get max horse power. I've been personally contemplating the SE8 462 cam or going to stage 3 or 4. The Stage 3 kit uses the 447 cam but since you go to 122 cubic inch you get a very nice bump in torque and horse power. Thanks for watching and for the question. If you are already a subscriber...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👍👊✌️

@CarlosRamos-dj5vw 6 ай бұрын

I’m actually doing my Roadglide st tomorrow and will let you guys know. I’m going with the torque cam.

@HDVIBE 6 ай бұрын

@CarlosRamos-dj5vw Thanks Carlos for watching and commenting. Enjoy that Stage 2 when you getbit back. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍

@anthonyrivera5700 10 ай бұрын

I subscribed to your channel I like your feed. 😊

@HDVIBE 10 ай бұрын

Thank you Anthony for watching and subscribing. I look forward to seeing your comments on other and future videos. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍

@andrewwatt8726 Жыл бұрын

The graph is at the crank, not the wheel that HD promotes. Its been well documented with many vids that a stock 114 is 81hp and 98tq.

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing that info. A dyno run is the only way to get the real numbers. But the numbers Harley charts ate directionally correct when compared to stock set up. If you are already a subscriber...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Ride safe and enjoy. ✌️👍👊

@DeterminedVeteran Жыл бұрын

One could also say if you’re going to spend the money on a cam go aftermarket v SE you’ll make more HP but say goodbye warranty So if you’re like me and want a Warranty go with SE

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Very true. 👍

@MilesOn2 Жыл бұрын

Why would they replace a Lefty Bearing (crank bearing) for a cam job? 🤔

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

They replaced the inner cam bearing. I picked up the wrong part number. Good catch. Ride safe and enjoy. ✌️👊👍

@parkeslife4323 Жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking. Why the hell are they putting a crank bearing in. Lol!

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting. Ride safe and enjoy. ✌️👊👍

@954Lacko Жыл бұрын

Going from stage to stage 2 will effect the fuel economy? I have a 2018 road king, using it mostly for long distance rides. Also, it has 40k miles in it. Is it a god idea to upgrade now to stage 2?

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting Lachi. On the first question, I have seen little change in full economy. I get around 38 to 39 MPG and I ride fairly aggressively running the the 3,000 to 4,000 rpm range. I get the same MPG on my 117 CVO and ST with Stage 1 upgrades. I think you can do the upgrade at any mileage as long as the bike has been properly maintained. It's always best to talk to a Harley tech or service advisor to discuss what you would like to get out of the bike. I will say after doing the Stage 2 upgrade, I smile every time I crack the throttle. If you are already a subscriber thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍

@954Lacko Жыл бұрын

Thank you!!!!

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

You are welcome. 👊

@joshwagner8954 Жыл бұрын

I just did a stage 2 torque cam upgrade on my 2019 RGS using all Screaming Eagle parts. While there is a noticable gain in acceleration it is NOT a big enough upgrade to justify the $1800 cost.

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thanks Josh for watching and sharing your perspective. If you are already a subscriber...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for the support and ride safe. ✌️👍👊

@trex860 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing. I have 23,000 miles on my 2021 Road Glide Special and the lifter ticking on cold startup seems to be getting louder and longer, so I’m going to do a complete cam chest upgrade and while I’m in there do a torque cam as well.

@HDVIBE 8 ай бұрын

@trex860 you won't regret it. Thanks for watching and commenting. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Ride safe and enjoy. 👊✌️👍

@richardrussell500 Жыл бұрын

The aftermarket tuners cause problems with the HD 2 year warranty... No doubt that an aftermarket tuner and a good dyno tune will make the engine run better with a better A/F ratio. The Screaming Eagle tuner is still limited by EPA standards. For me, the cost is not worth it. I am happy with my stock 107. It gets me down the road just fine :-)

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thanks Richard for watching and for your on point comment. I appreciate the support to the channel. Ride safe and enjoy. ✌️👊👍

@richardrussell500 Жыл бұрын

@@HDVIBE the other issue that must be considered is crank pinion runout when installing the aftermarket oil pump and backing plate... the runout has to be somewhere between zero and 5 thousandths. if it is greater than that, your oil pump will most likely be damaged, which in turn has the potential for destroying your engine. and, if you are a rider relying on a HD warranty, you can most likely kiss that approved warranty goodbye. my friend had a stage 2 installed on his 2017 107 Road Glide. S&S backing plate and S&S oil pump. engine sumped and destroyed itself at 45,000 miles. he had a HD extended warranty. HD denied his claim because they blamed the oil pump. he took his bike to a buddy who used to work for HD as a well-qualified technician. he found the runout to be excessive. well above 5 thousands. regardless, HD would not approve his claim. something to consider.

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Great points. Your scenario is another reason I went all Harley parts on my Stage 2...Thanks for your support. Ride safe and enjoy. ✌️👊👍

@johncollins1325 3 ай бұрын

14:15 to get to the point.

@HDVIBE 3 ай бұрын

Thanks John for watching and joining the over 42,000 others that have viewed and gotten value from this video. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍

@lonniedugan6120 11 ай бұрын

Is it worth doing a stage two kit on a 96 twin cam

@HDVIBE 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting. If you are looking for an increase in performance its definitely worth looking into with your local dealership or independent shop. Since I don't have a 96 twin cam, I can't offer any specifics. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍

@freebehindbars8654 10 ай бұрын

Going SE left a lot of performance on the table, especially for the money spent. I’d wait until the warranty is up, if that’s the reason for going SE.

@HDVIBE 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting. Warranty was definitely a factor in going screamin eagle for the Stsge 2. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👍👊

@johngibbs3584 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for another great video. Can’t believe somebody spent $5000 for that upgrade some dealers just can’t help to take advantage of people I’m going to check into any kind of deals. My dealer has and hopefully be able to install one in the future. Thanks again.

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thanks John for watching and commenting. It definitely helps to build a relationship with your dealer service advisors and watch for specials. I appreciate your support. Ride safe and enjoy. ✌️👊👍

@terrencehoward5873 Жыл бұрын

It doesn't cost that much on a M8

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

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@jasperduncan6633 Жыл бұрын

I cannot see any real difference (ie so that you’d notice) between installing a Stage II Torque Cam or a Stage II Power Cam on a 107. Where with a 114 the difference is most noticeable. Can someone help me out there?

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thanks Jasper for watching and commenting. While I can not give real world riding experience as a comparison between the torque and power cam I can pass along what a Harley Master Technician told me on Friday. He would not recommend the power cam unless you are constantly running in the 3500 to 5000 rpm range. He also told me that often when people do get it installed they come back and want it taken out and have the torque cam put in. I was considering putting the power cam in my Street Glide ST and he talked me out of it as he said I would feel a torque loss on the Low end of the rpm range. I would also suggest looking at Feulings Website as they have Dyno charts on the M8 engines with both the torque and power cams for comparison purposes. If you are already a subscriber thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for the support and ride safe. 👍✌️👊

@jasperduncan6633 Жыл бұрын

@@HDVIBE I am a new subscriber as I really enjoyed this video. I am really looking forward to subsequent videos and looking back at your library. I was very impressed with your no-nonsense professional presentation and learnt a lot, many thanks once again and I’ll take a look at that link.

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thank you Jasper. I really appreciate the kind words and support. 👍

@williame4175 Ай бұрын

What about a tuner Or dyno required for this upgrade? That's atleast another 500 to 1000$ easily

@HDVIBE Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting. If you have already completed a Stage 1...you should already have a tuner....I believe I stated that at the beginning of the video. The HD tuner depending on which version is $369 for the non Bluetooth version or $450 for the Bluetooth version. Since I went HD screamin eagle parts as noted, no dyno tuning is necessary. Just upload the Stage 2 map from the tuner then refine with smart tuning if necessary. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍

@markprive4164 9 ай бұрын

subscribed

@HDVIBE 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and subscribing. I look forward to seeing your comments on other and future videos. Ride safe and enjoy. ✌️👊👍

@tylerthrash3155 Жыл бұрын

One thing you didn't talk about was gas mileage. Not alot of people talk about it. Did you loose 1-2 miles per gallon or gas mileage stay the same? Just a question as we all know performance leads to loss of some mileage from time to time. Great video my friend

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words Tyler. I have been averaging about 39 miles per gallon with the Stage 2. I get about the same on the 117 with a Stage 1. I think the stated average mpg on the 114 is about 41 mpg. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👍👊

@carlbruhn1772 Жыл бұрын

I lost 5 miles per gallon. 2020 Road Glide Special. 30/30 cam, Fuelpak 3, Tab Header and 4.5 Bam sticks with Zombie inserts.

@tylerthrash3155 Жыл бұрын

@carlbruhn1772 that's insane 😳 I have been fighting with wanting to do a stage 2. But I keep backing out because I love my gas mileage on my 21 heritage 114. I ride to much to loose any mpg. I have a stage one with scremin eagle tune I'm at 40 or better depending on my speed at 85 I'm dry at about 190 miles. Think I will just get it dyno tuned and call it a day.

@carlbruhn1772 Жыл бұрын

@@tylerthrash3155 That loss is paper and pencil math. Not relying on the electronic mpg. It shows a loss of 3 overall.

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

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@zacharydunn5847 4 ай бұрын

The numbers are off my brother and I both have same bike and same set up except I put a power cam in where his is torque cam. From 0-60ish his pulls strong and then you can feel it drop off. Where mine pulls from 45ish to top out speed and I can pull away from him very slowly at a faster speed. That being said from take off he has me and from a roll I got him. So the numbers are discouraging so don’t look at that ask friends and other riders. Each other rider has a different riding style so ask your self where do you like to ride and where do you want the power to come on strong at.

@HDVIBE 4 ай бұрын

Thanks, Zach, for watching and commenting. Your comment about where you like to ride is exactly the process that should follow when picking a cam. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👍👊

@kevinkinney5445 Жыл бұрын

Of course its worth it if you want to make your M8 breath, sound and perform 20% stronger in HP and Torque without ruining your gas mileage and burning oil? Always ad air intake, throaty headers, a, breather kit, air deflectors and a J's air cooler fan. Better yet, blueprint a Kevin Baxter Bulletproof skunkworks treatment which includes clutch & tranny upgrade, suspension shock & fork cartridges upgrade, bars, seat, forward foot controls & boards, LED lighting, tool kit, bar bag and V rated touring tires, crash bars, train horn, tour pak & bags, Alarm, disc brake locks and a complete one person moto camping, cooking, sleeping equipment, 1st aide kit, as well as a personal defense weapon like a 9mm pistol & a Henry 410 axe

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thanks Kevin for watching and for the very thorough comment. Now that would be a built out Harley. Ride safe and enjoy. ✌️👊👍

@tax905972 11 ай бұрын

You only need the oil pump, if you haven't changed the old sumping pump.

@HDVIBE 11 ай бұрын

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@DeterminedVeteran Жыл бұрын

A stage 2 used to be the standard on baggers

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting DV. I appreciate the support. Still trying to decide which way to go on the Street Glide ST. Ride safe and enjoy. ✌️👊👍

@goatandyourmom9690 9 ай бұрын

With slip ons and a tuner on my screaming eagle 110 I smoke my brother's 114 with slip ons and a tuner.

@HDVIBE 9 ай бұрын

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@easyglider1307 Жыл бұрын

All due respect. The SE cam sucks compared to just about any aftermarket cam. Just did a Wood WM8-22XE cam and my 21 RG 107 runs like a beast. Got the kit from fuel moto with pushrods, new Wood's lifters, cam bearing, new feuling pinion timing gear and all gaskets for $789. Did the work myself.

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

You can certainly get more performance from other cams, tunes and configuration. However for my case, SE was the way to go to keep warranty protected. That is awesome you could do it yourself...Great way to save some $$$$. I looked at doing it myself, however by the time I purchased a cam bearing / set tool, the lock tool for tightening and other items at least for me, the minimal overall savings wasn't great enough and a master technician did the work so if any issues, I'm coveted. Conservative approach but best in my case. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍

@easyglider1307 Жыл бұрын

@@HDVIBE Luckily I had a buddy lend me the bearing tool and the locking tool was $12 on Amazon. A local shop wanted close to $700 just labor. I watched KZfaq videos about 100 times till I felt comfortable and now have the satisfaction of knowing it was done 100% correct by me :)

@carlbruhn1772 Жыл бұрын

You are on the money. SE cams are EPA certified they are simply junk.

@carlbruhn1772 Жыл бұрын

@@HDVIBE When your warranty expires, wake that bike up.

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Very cool. ✌️👊👍

@Donfleebie1 Жыл бұрын

My TC 103 runs cooler, stronger, and has better oil pressure since I upgraded oil pump when I installed my Woods TW 222.

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting. The upgraded oil pump does definitely keep the engine a bit cooler. If you are already a subscriber...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍

@Donfleebie1 Жыл бұрын

@@HDVIBE Getting that ridiculous CAT out of there helped the most.

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Yes that is huge. Unfortunately even the aftermarket exhaust makers are being forced to put the cat in their headpipes. Most including Rinehart, Vance & Hines and others have already started the change over. So now you have to find old stock or rip the cat out of the stock headpipe.

@jefftatum3562 11 ай бұрын

Did you ever have it dyno tuned and if so what were the numbers thanks

@jefftatum3562 11 ай бұрын

Did you ever have it dyno tuned and if so what were the numbers thanks

@rlull2001 Жыл бұрын

Won't you need a dyno tune after? That will add to the total cost.

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting. You can get a Dyno Tune but in my case I loaded a Screamin Eagle Stage 2 map into the ECM to preserve warranty. If your bike is under warranty, any other non EPA tune will be flagged by HD once a dealer hooks the bike up to the digital technician. The video assumes as I believe I stated that you have already done a Stage 1 and have the screamin eagle pro street tuner. If not, the latest Bluetooth version is right at $450 which can provide maps up to a Stage 4. If you are already a subscriber thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for the support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍

@rlull2001 Жыл бұрын

@@HDVIBE That makes sense. Thanks for clarifying.

@HDVIBE Жыл бұрын

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@atrenthillman 7 ай бұрын

Done ✔ 👍🏽

@HDVIBE 7 ай бұрын

@fourftr 10 ай бұрын

I think for a heavy touring bike stage 1 is worth the money for the difference between stage 1 or 2 I’d rather spend that money on a kick ass sound system

@HDVIBE 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting. That is certainly another way to go. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👍✌️👊