Is a Pen Display Worth It for 3D Sculpting

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FlippedNormals

FlippedNormals

3 жыл бұрын

We just bought a Huion Kamvas 22 Plus to take our sculpting to the next level. In this video we discuss if you really need it and how it's different from a regular pen tablet.
A popular question is always - Wacom vs Huion. We talk about some of the differences!
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@ZephrusPrime
@ZephrusPrime 3 жыл бұрын
You're my Hero dude! ALL the Huion and XP-Pen reviews are only for 2D and finally someone is looking at this for us sculptors! TY!
@FlippedNormals
@FlippedNormals 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to help 😁
@dominiquechausson765
@dominiquechausson765 3 жыл бұрын
@Howard Keer too neerdy here man
@leinadreign3510
@leinadreign3510 2 жыл бұрын
Well Grant Abbitt also said a bit about such tablets for sculpting in Blender
@MiljanBojovic
@MiljanBojovic 2 жыл бұрын
Same here! I wanna use it in Blender 3D Coat and possibly ZBrush. So thanks for this review :D
@krinodagamer6313
@krinodagamer6313 Жыл бұрын
What's the lag like
@typingcat
@typingcat 3 жыл бұрын
And I've been using a $20 mouse for sculpting, like a peasant.
@christianastrophobe
@christianastrophobe 3 жыл бұрын
The struggle is real 😔😔😔
@66cidri
@66cidri 2 жыл бұрын
like a HERO***
@MEneifal
@MEneifal 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus
@jaydenstorace7332
@jaydenstorace7332 2 жыл бұрын
What the actual fuck
@sampraz1990
@sampraz1990 2 жыл бұрын
O my Lord 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
@MDagrosa
@MDagrosa Жыл бұрын
I think 3d artist hardware reviews are definitely needed. Its a hole in the market and its hard to shop for equipment when the review is just 2d. 2d is great but its isnt 100 percent tailored to our needs so you need to make alot of guess work to translate it when making a buying decision. Great video keep it up.
@snibbubzik3566
@snibbubzik3566 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you need to always do product reviews, but if you find something or change something that significantly alters your work, is definitely interesting and helpful to hear
@FlippedNormals
@FlippedNormals 3 жыл бұрын
That's good to know :)
@InfiniteComboReviews
@InfiniteComboReviews 3 жыл бұрын
I literally ordered my first display tablet the day before this video went up (can't wait until it arrives!) for exactly the reason you mentioned about the disconnect between my eye and hand. While I intend to use it for both drawing and sculpting, I couldn't help but notice that my lines when drawing on paper felt more confident. It was just easier and faster to draw physically than digitally even though I've been drawing digitally for years. I can't wait to try this out for myself.
@oartehaga
@oartehaga 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. I love how fair you sound and the content of your videos guys. You truly look like good people and professionals. Huion is being lucky that you decided to make a review of one of their items. I wish I didn't buy my Cintiq 27 3 years ago, but there was not a good budget tablet by then. Shame, although I love my tablet. Parallex in Cintiq 27 is three times what I see in the video with the Huion, but it is never a major problem as we adapt as humans and it only takes 2 days to feel it natural.
@firestarter2793
@firestarter2793 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant. Thank you so much for taking the time to share this. I thought you would like to know ... that yes ... this video really was extremely helpful in terms of 3D use with Huion. Stay safe and well ... Regards from UK!
@ihorkarpiuk4102
@ihorkarpiuk4102 3 жыл бұрын
Such a pleasure watching someone at work
@BadNewsBerrington
@BadNewsBerrington 3 жыл бұрын
I struggled with the keyboard setup as well. Two things that helped me make it more comfortable are a sliding keyboard tray under my desk and the amazon basics version of an ergotron arm.
@kidehoward93
@kidehoward93 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this. It was straightforward and was just a video on how this tablet worked in a everyday sense and didn't bore me going into EVERY feature of the tablet. Love to see more videos like this new workflow improvement style
@FlippedNormals
@FlippedNormals 3 жыл бұрын
Haha. Yeah I tend to get bored with regular reviews as well.. So I'm happy this was to your liking
@KingUsyk
@KingUsyk 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this informative video. I've wanted to upgrade to this tablet since release but could find no info on what it was like for 3D. Thanks to you i finally pulled the plug on my Intuos 4, this amazing piece of kit was worth every penny. Sculpting with it is such a joy, It's definitely changed my workflow for the better.
@manuvlad
@manuvlad 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! as you said, every review about this kind of product is focused on painting. I'm really glad made this video.
@FlippedNormals
@FlippedNormals 3 жыл бұрын
Hope you found it useful :)
@Enz1612
@Enz1612 3 жыл бұрын
For that same keyboard annoyance, Id suggest you putting the display on an arm mount so it is raised above the desk and the keyboard can be placed right beneath it
@AndyBaedal
@AndyBaedal 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah had the same thought.. VESA arm mount would be awesome improvement for ergonomics!
@dotbmp
@dotbmp 3 жыл бұрын
@@AndyBaedal but would a vesa mount hold the display strongly enough to lean on and draw?
@nonamenone2851
@nonamenone2851 3 жыл бұрын
@@dotbmp it depends from the arm Some arms can hold it in middle hair, and some don't
@AndyBaedal
@AndyBaedal 3 жыл бұрын
@@dotbmp depend on the arms specs. Ideally ur pen display should be much lighter than the maximum weight capacity of the arm. The more gap difference between them, the more less wobble your setup is. So u have to check that before buy. Maybe u wanna see reference like this guy using his cintiq in an arm: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rb-VhJBo1J7bpZs.html
@bluehabs
@bluehabs 3 жыл бұрын
maybe late, buy 1 hand keyboard worth the money to do most of key needed.
@rpav7268
@rpav7268 3 жыл бұрын
I've been using a Huion Kamvas Pro 20 for a year now for sculpting and photoshop ( both for archviz stuff) and it works like a charm. You guys should definitely do more videos like this one if you have the time 😘
@aloof2156
@aloof2156 3 жыл бұрын
Is it bad I'm mainly only watching your videos to watch you sculpt xD. It just so relaxing to watch someone else sculpt and not to do it yourself and get plagued by problems.
@exthefun42o
@exthefun42o 3 жыл бұрын
It's awesome that this video pops now on my recommended since I want to buy one but was very unsure. Thanks!
@MangyLeo
@MangyLeo 2 жыл бұрын
Love it! No unboxing, no BS frills, just you doing you ;-)
@teranlee4741
@teranlee4741 3 жыл бұрын
I also haven't seen many, if any, sculpting videos on pen displays, thanks for this!
@_aiborie
@_aiborie Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the sharing your experience and review! Very helpful stuff.
@miniwarmonger788
@miniwarmonger788 3 жыл бұрын
Really like the video. It wasnt overproduced and pretty much a blue collar style impression, which I appreciated a lot. Like others other too I would love a follow up video, as soon as you piled up some experience with the tablet.
@olivermirez6667
@olivermirez6667 3 жыл бұрын
Dude... I love sculpting and I've been getting into digital painting lately. And wanted to get a display tablet for that very purpose. So I've been going crazy looking for the best one I could get for painting/drawing and found that this one was the best, but still had some doubts as I've seen some negative reviews for Huion. But after watching your video I will so buy the Huion 22 Plus, I trust your judgment my man!.
@diegorob93
@diegorob93 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought it wasn't worth it, but honestly, once I tested a Cintiq I couldn't go back to an Intuos. It's just so natural and confortable to sculpt on a good pen display... I guess it all depends on your preferences.
@FlippedNormals
@FlippedNormals 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely personal preference, but I'm in the same boat. I really like this display
@cosmiccoo2
@cosmiccoo2 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's always good to learn about new things such as this. I Have recently started to use Zbrush and my workflow is really slow using keyboard and mouse but wasn't sure about a display like this and since I could use it as a second monitor is sounds ideal. I definitely love hearing about things you guys have tried and tested. I look like to hear what you guys think about CAD mouse or a 3D mouse as an option
@NonSequitur404
@NonSequitur404 3 жыл бұрын
So this is really off topic but there is a nice ASMR quality to your voice and presentation style. Thanks also for your review :)
@hemantkokate5768
@hemantkokate5768 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks you for the review! The sculpting was also inspiring!! 🤩
@adam551982
@adam551982 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. I took your advice and purchased the wacom intuos pro when I was starting out. Used It was like 200 bucks USD. 18 months later and i am still loving learning to sculpt. With all that you pointed out it def helps me decide whether I will buy this tablet. Fyi, I think I will ne purchasing one.
@coleschmidt6988
@coleschmidt6988 3 жыл бұрын
Loved the review! Would love to see more videos like this
@olahaldor
@olahaldor Жыл бұрын
Found this by accident now. Incredible how I've not seen it yet, and it just adds on to the gut feeling I have had for a while; get a Huion Kamvas. Looking at the Pro 16 2.5K which was released recently :)
@velocelt
@velocelt 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the candid assessment of this kind of tablet for sculpture. I'm mainly interested in sculpture but also 2D drawing/painting as well. I come from a 2D/real clay drawing/sculpture type background but haven't done either thing in over 20 years. I bought an inexpensive Wacom tablet a few years back but it's never gotten much use. It seemed weird and difficult to look at a vertical screen in front of me but be trying to draw or maneuver something on the tablet. It just seemed odd, and compounding that fact with the cheaper tablet being only flat on the desktop made things more complex. Additionally, I work at a standing desk, but can also sit in a tall chair at the same desk, so I wanted something like a tablet that would work comfortably for both positions. A friend just bought one of the newer 19" tablets from Huion for both sculpting and drawing and so I was interested and pleased to see your assessment for use in sculpting. I feel like I might have a slight advantage in adapting to using this type of accessory because I don't have a long term set of workflow habits in either sculpting or drawing programs. I like the idea of drawing on the same surface I'm looking at much more than the disjointed aspect of pen tablet. Anyway, you've sold me on getting a Huion for sculpting and I think it'll be a great compliment to my learning, especially because I've not developed any habits or attachments to specific tools or programs yet.
@illidan2003
@illidan2003 3 жыл бұрын
I just purchased a Huion Kamvas 16 due to me hating trying to sculpt with a mouse. I'm a complete beginner to digital sculpting but I love to draw and thought, why not. I appreciate what you're saying about the videos for digital sculpting to be fee and gar between. Hopefully you post some more. Thanks!
@fived9424
@fived9424 Жыл бұрын
I'm just about to buy a Huion Kamvas 24 Plus. Thank you for this
@GeekyNinjaKitty
@GeekyNinjaKitty 3 жыл бұрын
I have the huion gt 191 v2 and I put it on one of those monitor arm things to keep it off my desk and adjustable. I used an intuos tablet before for 5 years until it started not working anymore for me and so I bit the bullet and got this huion pen display. It didn't take long to adjust and can I just say damn, it feels so good to paint and sculpt on.
@visuart
@visuart 3 жыл бұрын
on the spot... really hesitating about upgrading to the huion 16 from my intuos. I agree, a follow up vid would be nice in a couple of weeks to see how you've adjusted. Congrats and keep it up!
@absenceofart8698
@absenceofart8698 2 жыл бұрын
Hey bud, with the issue your having with the pen tablet and keyboard, I had the same issue but i bought a mountable keyboard tray for under my desk/pen display. I got it from amazon for like $40, not bad. It solved that problem beautifully, I can now keep my left hand centered just below the pen display and the difference in ergonomics is amazing! So if your desk layout supports a mountable keyboard tray, give it a try...
@raycharles1168
@raycharles1168 3 жыл бұрын
My 2 cents here is that once you get used to the pen tablet (Intuos), then the display tablet isnt an automatic improvement. You have to be someone with traditional experience to really get the most out of a display tablet. For example, I used a standard pen tablet (Intuos Medium) for 10+ years and thought I'd like a display tablet. I got one and it ended up collecting dust because I basically had to relearn how to draw on it. It sounds weird, but you really do get used to seeing your image on the screen with a pen tablet. One you transition to looking down and having your hand in the way, and drawing strokes with a different ratio, it felt really bad for me. I do feel way better on my pen tablet, despite having accuracy issues, but truly I'd rather give up a little accuracy (that can be achieved w/ ctrl-z or smoothing tools) and maintain my overall style and perception. I did try to go back to my display tablet to practice and did notice improvement, but working professionally I really didn't have the time to relearn how to draw on a display tablet. Long story short, display tablet is an upgrade for those of you with extensive traditional hands on experience. If, however, youre like me and spent years getting really good on a pen tablet (to the point of working as a contractor for AAA game studios) then it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks and your brain is fairly programmed into using the pen tablet well. My speed is totally fine at the end of the day on the tablet too so I finally decided it wasn't worth using my display tablet at all anymore.
@seragx99
@seragx99 3 жыл бұрын
I decided to do my practices on the tablet when I was starting because I noticed my progress in "real" drawing wasn't translating on the tablet so well, I went full tablet and my digital drawing improved a lot , I thought I was the only one who had that problem. I was thinking of getting a 22 pen display for 3d sculpting on Christmas but your comment really made me think, maybe I should try with a cheap small one before diving head on? Thank you for your insight!
@AlexTsekot
@AlexTsekot 3 жыл бұрын
@@seragx99 You definitely should try a cheaper pen tablet first. Also keep in mind that sculpting is quite different to drawing, you don't necessarily need to see your strokes as 80-90% of the time you'll probably be doing work with larger volumes when it comes to sculpting. I've been using a really old Wacom Bamboo in zbrush for quite a while and for me its perfectly fine even for professional work.
@brodriguez11000
@brodriguez11000 3 жыл бұрын
Sort of the difference between QWERTY and DVORAK.
@j03Biz
@j03Biz 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. I started on the Intuos Medium and used it for 4 years and bought a Huion 1080 display because I really wanted a display tablet and it was cool. The problem is the pen and my hand were in the way and the position I had to be in which just wasn't comfortable, and it looked pixelated since now days everything supports 4k. I ended up going back to the Intuos and stuck with it. I am using a 43in 4k smart TV whcih was $300 and my muscle memory is super comfortable on the Intuos.
@aliarto5580
@aliarto5580 3 жыл бұрын
thanks i have small wacom intous i am thinking to buy screen one since my wacom is dying but i have question my small wacom cover all the screen so easy to go from the left to the right for little bit of movement but if i had a screen i need to move my whole arm and thinking about that i i'll get pen tablet i really don't want to move my arm just to save file
@krinodagamer6313
@krinodagamer6313 Жыл бұрын
I just got mine today I cant wait!!!!
@Pedrokyubycardoso
@Pedrokyubycardoso 3 жыл бұрын
Had huion for 3 years now, works perfectly both pen display and tablet
@gabrieldodge5861
@gabrieldodge5861 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about getting that. Thanks for the vid
@MrDankDro
@MrDankDro Жыл бұрын
I just got my first pen display tablet during Black Friday, a Huion Kamvas 13. Its a definite game changer with sculpting. I've even gotten to where I use it off and on in poly modeling just because its so natural. Anyone serious about digital art should at least get drawing tablet and I bet after you get accustom to it, a pen display tablet is gonna be on your wishlist
@eliasdegasperi_art
@eliasdegasperi_art 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I love that format. And I know it's not a review but the way you were telling about your workflow/ the product was so good, so realistic. I recently bought I Huion Kamvas 16 Pro, I am loving it. Ive used regular tablets for 10 years in advertising/ Art Direction. I adapted very fast and my sculpting level (beginner to advance) improve a little, because the way you move things with a screen its way more organic. I think that a 16inches is good to start, but in a few years I'll definitively buy a 22 or more. Thx
@NNG_yt
@NNG_yt 2 жыл бұрын
Do u think 16 is perfect for 3d reducing or turning off if possible everytime. And wud anything lower than 16 be difficult
@TitchmarshVillage
@TitchmarshVillage 3 жыл бұрын
I made the mistake of investing in a big Cintiq Pro and a stand. It cost a fortune and I’ve already gone back to my bog-standard Intuos! The problems were many and varied. For starters I was used to working with my keyboard in front of me, my hand/arm offset to the right and my head up. With a large screen (as shown here) you work the other way around. What I hadn’t realised is that the Cintiq stand only has two positions. You can tilt the screen but you can’t make fine adjustments to the up and down position. The only height/tilt position that suited me was when I standing - which took some getting used to. Strangely, however, it wasn’t my legs that got tired but my arm which was now required to work at a different angle. All in all, an expensive mistake.
@FirstLast_Nba
@FirstLast_Nba 3 жыл бұрын
Do a review in few weeks and let us know what u think.
@toluabisola
@toluabisola 2 жыл бұрын
I think these types of video are super important as there are not many artists making this type of content for fellow sculptor/3D modellers. I would love to know if you are still using it and if your opinions have changed, or if you have upgraded to a newer device.
@TKRayder
@TKRayder 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video! You're right, it is tough to come quality videos of this kind from the perspective of a 3d artist. I'm not a professional but I do have some education in digital graphics and currently enjoy it a lot as a hobby (I do pretty much anything I feel like. 3d, 2d, animation etc). My trusty Intuos broke down a few years ago (not the tablet, but the cord) after almost a decade of service and since then I've spent what little time I've allocated to art on traditional media. A few months ago I decided to replace the tablet and started looking at pen displays. Had I done some better research I might have looked more into the Huion displays. They do look nice from what I can tell. I ended up buying a Wacom One (mostly since I've been very happy with their products in the past and I couldn't justify spending the money on a Cintiq) and I am very happy with it so far. The small size doesn't bother me nearly as much as I thought but that might be because I have next to no experience with larger, or any really, pen displays in general. My main issue with it is that it lacks any kind of mount interface on the back so getting it to sit well on my monitor arm required some hacks.
@RyanStalloneable
@RyanStalloneable 3 жыл бұрын
Readjustment is huge, but once you get used to it, its really nice. I didn't really improve my ability so much with my screen tablet, so its really up to whether an individual gravitates towards this kind of experience. I personally prefer it
@nerbherder
@nerbherder 2 жыл бұрын
thanx for the input on this pen display for sculpting. I want to see more general 3d use on yt too, as in modeling with the other tools, brushes, alphas, zremesher, zspheres, etc.; I've been wanting a larger Wacom Cintiq Pro for so long, but lately been considering on a more affordable & similar one like Huion or XP-Pen but need to see more demos and reviews on their 2d and 3d performance capabilities. I'm liking what i see in ur demo. Looking forward to more. I want to switch over from my Intuos Pro 3 since forever as I'm sure it will free me from being chained to the eye/hand coordination pen tablet. I am 100% positive that a pen display will improve all of my artwork - vector, sketching, drawing, inking, painting and my 3d modeling & sculpting. I want to make the right choice and investment.
@KurinP
@KurinP 3 жыл бұрын
As far as the smaller keyboard, I can definitely recommend one! the Koolertron SMKD72-A. 48 individual mechanical keys laid out in a grid, and each one is fully programmable and can be set to emulate any keypress, combo, or even macros. I've found it is extremely valuable for my workflows. The software leaves a little to be desired, but it's a set-and-forget so unless you're constantly changing up the programming it really shouldn't matter that much.
@yeahgirl11
@yeahgirl11 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Been looking, for a keyboard just like that!
@iresolver
@iresolver 2 жыл бұрын
I like the video a lot would love to see more on display tablets for 3d artists
@robertbensch7748
@robertbensch7748 2 жыл бұрын
I´m working on Rhino for Nurbs modelling for about 20 years now and just started out on zbrush, which I wanted to do forever now. Its a great combined workflow, but I had two problems. The navigation in zbrush is completely counter-intuitive to what Rhino does. I have a large 3d-connexion space mouse with a lot of hotkeys available, which I modified to work in the same way it works in Rhino, so I can navigate easily. The other thing is the way to sculpt on a tablet, which I never really warmed up with (have a intuos). Now that I saw your video, I know that I must get the Huion I was pondering anyways. Thank you for your video!
@3V1LKNIGHT
@3V1LKNIGHT 3 жыл бұрын
Alright.. I got it and I must say, the pressure levels are a game changer.. no longer am I sitting there constantly changing brush sizes for almost a total of hours which take the majority of time I've invested into past project. I actually got the Kamvas20 while it was on sale last week and it actually came with the updated pen. What I am curious about now are which settings are you using? did you had to adjust anything as fare as preferences and interface? anything we need to know? other than that it really comes down to what the artist is comfortable with and for me this is definitely worth it
@Eckshale
@Eckshale 3 жыл бұрын
I did a similar upgrade quite a few years back, mainly because I primarily draw and paint. But when I do use Zbrush I feel like I lost the layer of abstraction between my hand and my eyes that made it feel like I was working in three dimensional space. Versus now I just feel more detached from the surfaces that I am working on and in turn has made it harder to express the forms that I want to. I probably just need to use Zbrush more these days.
@MR3DDev
@MR3DDev 3 жыл бұрын
Great finally someone doing a sculting review of this. I will probably go for the 24 inch model which has 1440p resolution
@BadNewsBerrington
@BadNewsBerrington 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the 24. I bought the xp pen version first. It was decent but the screen protector made the surface feel a little spongy and the dial on the side was always in the way when using the side buttons. The drivers were being updated every week and while everything else would improve, using photoshop became impossible. I would draw a stroke and it would take several seconds for the line to fully render. So I sent it back and bought the Kamvas Pro 24. As far as the surface goes it’s been great. Since it’s an etched glass surface there’s no spongy feeling and no lag in any of the apps I’m using. The pressure sensitivity is amazing. Particularly in photoshop. The parallax in the main portion of the screen is minimal. However, once you get to the edges it gets a little difficult to use any scroll bars. The corners are even worse. When I close Maya I can’t tell if I’ve hit the X or not because 1, Maya takes forever to close and 2, the parallax makes it hard to hit the button. Speaking of buttons, the side buttons do feel a little cheap. There’s more wiggle/play in them than I’d like which makes screen switching a bit of a pain to do quickly but I’ve gotten used to it at this point. The touch bar is terrible. Don’t even bother with that thing. Actually I’m really not even using the buttons at this point other than for screen switching. All in all I would say for the price tag it’s a great piece of equipment. I would recommend not buying it direct from their website. For some reason they can’t offer free shipping there. But you can buy it from their Amazon store and get the free shipping.
@MR3DDev
@MR3DDev 3 жыл бұрын
@@BadNewsBerrington yeah the pro one is the one I am getting
@thomasbaker3249
@thomasbaker3249 3 жыл бұрын
brilliant. Thank you so much for this video.
@Rinkyu
@Rinkyu 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing 🤩 I want one eventually.
@inzane456
@inzane456 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I have recently been greatly disappointed by my Wacom purchase, so I've been looking for alternatives since it doesn't seem like the Wacom issue will be solved any time soon. I did my research on Huion and XP-Pen, and I actually arrived at the same conclusion, and the Kamvas 22 Plus is the best value product right now for Pen Displays. It'd be great if you could revisit this product by the end of the year and tell us how well it holds up by then.
@Marcel2278
@Marcel2278 3 жыл бұрын
I have a kanvas 13, it's really really nice. It's helped a lot with wrist pain, it's also actually helped me with texture painting. I'd honestly recommend one if you can afford it but it's definitely not necessary if you're starting out. I saved forever for one but I'm definitely glad I did save for 4 years to get one and lucky that by the time I had the money huion updated the tablets
@MonstehDinosawr
@MonstehDinosawr Жыл бұрын
I'm looking at getting a second hand Kamvas 13, I want to use it for textures too (for avatars In VR) How is yours holding up? Is it worth getting the Kamvas 13?
@peterspy8867
@peterspy8867 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking of ergonomics, you seem to sit at the edge of your desk, with your hands in the air at all times - that contributes to your RSI / carpal tunnel. I had a similar problem, and it seems in you case it's also the desk that is the main culprit. Judging from the video, your desk is probably 40-50 cm deep. Get a desk that's at least 80 cm deep, and you'll feel the world of difference. You'll be able to put your left arm on the desk, and you can support your right arm on the elbow, when it gets tired. It made my work much more comfortable and less injury-prone.
@horseweapon
@horseweapon 3 жыл бұрын
While a tablet of some sort is kinda necessary if you want to do any sort sculpting/painting (yeah yeah, we all know that guy who brags about sculpting with his mouse...), a pen display is not mandatory. It's just a nice upgrade over a regular tablet. If you're going to use it on a daily basis, then yes, I think it's worth the investment. However, if you're only a weekend user and you're only going to use it as your "youtube" screen the rest of the time, then maybe not. I have had several wacom tablet/screen over the years and I currently have a Cintiq 24 UHD at work and I have a Huion Kamvas Pro 20 at home, so I'm experienced with both brands. Wacom is expensive but reliable. Huion is cheap but... it's cheap. like, it's cheaply made. I had to replace the pen twice in two years. The stylus just stopped working suddenly, while I was using it. First time after only two months. It was still under warranty so Huion replaced it for free (had to pay for shipping though, which was pretty high). But second like was last week and I had to pay 70 canadian dollars. Add janky drivers to that (compatibility issues with substance and you have to restart the drivers in administrator mode for zbrush), so I'm not really impressed. So yes Huion is cheap, but you get what you pay for. And no, I don't smash my pen on the screen or throw it across the room. Never broke a wacom stylus, while I must have dropped them dozens of times. I'm not trying to shit on that review, I was super happy with my Huion at first, thinking it was a great deal. When the first stylus broke, I just thought "bad luck, still cool". When second one broke the exact same way, it's just poor quality. Especially right now, working from home, it's even more frustrating, I can afford having my tablet randomly give up on me and having to wait several days for a new stylus to show up. While I was waiting for my new stylus to arrive, I dug out my old 12 inches cintiq. It's over 10 years old, needs an hdmi adapter, sub-hd, zbrush UI takes half the screen, but hey, just plugged it and still works like a charm, no bullshit.
@inzane456
@inzane456 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I could still revere Wacom the same way. With their recent complacency, I can not even use my new Wacom One at all. I literally replaced my computer just to use it, thinking it cannot be at fault since it works on every other device except my main station. When I did replace my computer entirely, I found out then and there that it wasn't at all my computer, but software issues that Wacom tablets have with Windows 10 directly. All that, after I replaced my original Wacom Bamboo with that Wacom One thinking it finally bit the dust. Turns out it's just their software. So at this point, with how much money I have blown out just to get a single fucking Wacom product to work, I am very much welcoming their competition. That being said, I have done my homework on Huion and XP-Pen, Huion undoutedly is on top for now with their 2020 releases. Have you tried any of their recent releases with their 3rd generation pens? Not enough time has gone by to know for sure if the 3rd gen pens will have the same durability issues as you have had, and that is mostly what I am curious on.
@Ruthven__6
@Ruthven__6 Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was looking for, thank you!
@sodablower
@sodablower 3 ай бұрын
Great video, dude 👍 very helpful
@cseguin
@cseguin 3 жыл бұрын
I'm getting my Huion Kamvas 16 this coming week . . . woot woot . . . I'm hoping it will help me focus on the creative side of things with a more "natural" method of sculpting in Blender.
@jamesmelton1131
@jamesmelton1131 2 жыл бұрын
I’m getting a wacom cintiq 22 for the large size. Mainly so I can have a big screen to draw on. I’m excited. I hope that keyboard is not to big of an issue
@katiamarturini
@katiamarturini 3 жыл бұрын
I never really got used to working on a regular drawing tablet, I got my Huion Kamvas GT191 in 2018 and I would never go back! In my case it really helped me mantain a good posture, I have the tendency of leaning closer to the screen bending my back and it gave me bad neck and shoulder pains. Keeping the screen right under my face helps me keep my back straight while working!
@ifeotto
@ifeotto 3 жыл бұрын
what about the wirst and the arm posture? i feel like that a intous gives you the confort of laying the forearm on the desk... thanks!
@s-ek-k9646
@s-ek-k9646 11 ай бұрын
thank you a lot. exactly video i looking for
@SibrisLarenz
@SibrisLarenz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the insight on something I've been debating about myself, I like your take on this and have decided to give it a shot. On the matter of the keyboard, I have a 3D Connexion SpaceMouse Enterprise, had it for roughly 4 years now I think and I absolutely love it. If you are looking for an alternative solution to the keyboard then I would suggest getting a space mouse.
@CinemaZiggy
@CinemaZiggy 2 жыл бұрын
Space mouse definitely improved my flow in 3D
@okinava_play
@okinava_play 3 жыл бұрын
Best review that i found about this toy and sculpting. Thanks mate 🤙🏼
@jayberan
@jayberan 3 жыл бұрын
a great choice for a video morten, I recently got a pen display myself and I like it but what bothers me is my hand blocks the view sometimes of when I'm trying to sculpt line details or things like that. I've tried looking on youtube to see if others had similar issues but haven't found how others deal with it.
@bencoomer2000
@bencoomer2000 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing. Thanks.
@FlippedNormals
@FlippedNormals 3 жыл бұрын
You got it 👍
@itsa_possum
@itsa_possum 3 жыл бұрын
I much prefer the intuos, you can sit perfectly upright working on your regular monitor. It fits in perfectly in front of the keyboard so you have full access to shortcuts and there is absolutely no big fumbling around with cables and stuff to rearrange the tablet. Lastly they are a lot less prone to errors and driver fuckery and you can use them on the go with laptops. It takes a bit of practice to get used to tablets but I like that my hand does not obstruct parts of my work area. I guess it all boils down to personal preference (and budget)
@alvind.8558
@alvind.8558 3 жыл бұрын
I have a keyboard placed in front of my tablet display for shortcuts. Works great for me.
@scotts6724
@scotts6724 3 жыл бұрын
I've been on the look out for a new tablet and after watching this video I ended up buying this tablet. I figured if it's good enough for the FN guys, it's good enough for me! I'm loving the experience so far and my speed has definitely increased from using a tablet with no screen. One downside I would report though seems to be the Huion Drivers, as if I turn the tablet off using the power button then when I turn it back on my iMac doesn't recognise it and I have to restart my Mac to get it working again. Not a major big deal, but I would expect it to be able it be turned off and on with no issues.
@sampraz1990
@sampraz1990 2 жыл бұрын
Nice I also have a kamvas 22 plus and I love it. I saved about 500$ or more just by choosing the huion brand over Wacom.
@richmo5d
@richmo5d 3 жыл бұрын
I received mine yesterday, and so far I love it!! It’s my first display tablet, so new to me as well. Great term. I do feel “immersed.”
@FlippedNormals
@FlippedNormals 3 жыл бұрын
That is awesome!
@ChristopherReeber
@ChristopherReeber 3 жыл бұрын
You should look into a SpaceMouse for your left hand, allows you to navigate and has buttons to pop up radial menus for commonly used tools. I don't have one myself (yet) but have been eyeing one. I do have a pen display though, i just got a underdesk drawer that I can tilt so I can keep my hand there comfortably.
@justincosplay
@justincosplay 3 жыл бұрын
i have the cintiq on a amazon basics monitor arm so i have a bit of space under the monitor to sneak in a small wireless keyboard .... and my fullsize keyboard is off to the left when i need to fully type stuff
@sadicus
@sadicus 3 жыл бұрын
GT221 Pro - I like the custom keys. Stream Deck is also a good addon
@entopticmedia
@entopticmedia Жыл бұрын
I have an XP-Pen 15.6 - bought mostly for portability while still at university - but wish I bought a (22" @1440p) instead of (16" @1080p). I feel the display is not large enough for Zbrush comfortably. So - I use the XP-Pen mostly just as a second 'on-desk' monitor and still use my Wacom Intuos Pro (with Tourbox Pro) as my main toolset. Other software seems to be 'ok' on the display (Maya, C4D, Adobe etc), but it's definitely better to use my Wacom across my (34" @2160p) screen and across the display screen on desk also. One day Cintiq may become affordable, but until then I may consider a better XP-Pen or Huion when I am ready to upgrade tools again.
@Snow_Bat
@Snow_Bat 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Huion Kamvas GT-221 pro and I love using it for drawing. But when it comes to sculpting I had the problem with positioning my keyboard as well, would like to your preferred way to go about it in the future!
@SinerAthin
@SinerAthin 2 жыл бұрын
This is my definite experience as well with digital art when I got a Display Tablet when I had been previously using a Pen Tablet. The ergonomics were the greatest challenge with a Display Tablet, and I had to move and raise my arms a lot more. It may not sound like much, especially when I can bench more than 100kg, but doing that over 6-8+ hours of work multiple days a week is really noticeable. In the beginning I made the mistake of leaving the keyboard too far to the left, resulting in back discomfort; and I also had my references on my other monitor, which lead to some neck discomfort from constantly looking sideways at them over prolonged sessions. Though funnily enough, even though I met with a lot of initial discomfort, I also noticed my art looked noticeably better when I made it on my Display Tablet as opposed to my old Pen Tablet, even though I was more comfortable and experienced with the latter.
@Flamamacue
@Flamamacue 3 жыл бұрын
Look into the Tartarus type mini keyboards. Very easy to customise and set up all sorts of macros and fits comfortably while using a pen display. I have one and would love to use it but I'm left handed and they're designed for left hand use :( it does work but ergonomics are obviously jacked up
@xxstfubmx
@xxstfubmx 2 жыл бұрын
spot on was wondering if this would spped workflow for 3d creation of all sorts
@MichaelWoodrum
@MichaelWoodrum 2 жыл бұрын
I've used a 22 inch huion for a few years now. I used a monitor arm that I detached a section from and mounted it directly in from of my main monitor so that I can pull it slightly off my desk and almost flat on the desk if I need. It moves side to side as well. With the desk being motorized, I can get all positions I want throughout the day. For the keyboard, I use a full one sometimes. I also have a stream deck and a space mouse. I printed something that holds them both together and allows all the keys needed for normal keyboard shortcuts. The space mouse is nice for moving really fast throughout the canvas. I still do not think it's a perfect setup. I'll be playing with that for years.
@rolfathan
@rolfathan 3 жыл бұрын
Instead of a numpad, may I suggest the Tourbox. It's pricey (around $170 USD usually, I've seen it on sale though sometimes) but it has a bunch of unique shaped buttons and knobs. Makes it easier to remember buttons, and adds some other functions you otherwise wouldn't get on a keyboard.
@andrekling
@andrekling 3 жыл бұрын
really cool video, i was looking forward to a review from a 3d modeler or sculptor... I have a question that perhaps you can answer. I use at work an XP pen 16.5 and it has a very annoying bug that im hopping they will fix in a driver update... the cursor jumps a little to the sides if you press the button on the pen barrel repeatedly in a fast motion... since i use it as middle click it happens all the time when orbiting around the model... i checked in a friend huion (not your model) and it also had the same issue... is this still a thing in the newer model? i would appreciate if you could answer. kind regards and great work.
@ProCoder2007
@ProCoder2007 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! A very authentic video :) nice!
@FlippedNormals
@FlippedNormals 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, Kevin :)
@lithium534
@lithium534 3 жыл бұрын
Something that I use and I can't work without anymore is a space mouse. There are small ones but I have the one with the buttons and that works great. I would post a pic of my setup but can't on youtube.
@zachariahm.kemper7406
@zachariahm.kemper7406 3 жыл бұрын
I have a md770 keyboard, has everything but the numbpad and it splits in half, love the keyboard itself, I do want to switch to some aqua zilent switches though
@RoseKindred
@RoseKindred 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. I guess it popped up since I am shopping for a display tablet. Need one that I can use away from the computer due to mobility issues.
@godzil666
@godzil666 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Thanks for an another great video. I actually got interested with this solution. Please tell me, if I may ask: since it has no buttons (I like them to keep something on my left), wat's your solution to change the brush size?
@DathNobita
@DathNobita 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the pointers. I'm looking to get into 3D sculpting/art and I'm waiting for my Kamvas RDS220 to arrive. Although, I'm not sure if my pc would be enough to get me a moderately smooth workflow with sculpting. I have an R9 3900x, RTX2080Super and 64GB of RAM. Any pointers on the pc specs?
@philippk819
@philippk819 Жыл бұрын
Nice video! I just bought a Kamvas 24 Plus and got the same issue regarding the keyboard. I realize I'm 2 years late and you might have found a solution that fits you...but have you thought of using a Stream Deck like from the Elgato series? I plan to use an Elgato Stream Deck XL. I admit it's more expensive than just a small keyboard...but also much more versatile... Independent of the Stream Deck, I also thought about using an under-desk keyboard solution. The only problem is, my desk got a cross strut in the front underneath the desk top. So I cannot mount a keyboard holder to just slide in and out horizontally. It needs to be something that "folds out". But of course I also don't want a contraption that collides with my legs ;-). For a moment I was even crazy enough to think about using that wall mounted keyboard arm from Ergotron, with it being mounted to the wall underneath the table (I already use desk-mounted Ergotron.LX arms for the Kamvas and my 27" Dell U2711...)
@jamespaulheneghan
@jamespaulheneghan 3 жыл бұрын
Great overview I know my had gets in the way sometimes but im using the kamvas pro 13 and i just changed to a wacom intuos pro m pen tablet last week kinda regretting it now after seeing this :P
@pkeod
@pkeod 3 жыл бұрын
IMO the screen tablets are not at all necessary and for me personally actually slows down production. But it is still useful in some situations.
@azoo_23
@azoo_23 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man! Thanks for you video it was very helpful, btw what is the huion model that you are using on this video? Thanks again.
@Chejov1214
@Chejov1214 3 жыл бұрын
if u ask me yeah I would like a a follow up , specialy if you can compare it to a cintiq .. for a lot of artists who don't have the budget to buy an expensive wahcom and don;t have the chance to try one of this tablets huion or xp pen .. brands its pretty awsome to see someone who you admire , respect or have in good regard .. that this person tries something and make a review or just give his/her impressions .. it helps ! (in my opinion) so thanx a lot so yeah IM interested in this kind of vids ! :) huion and xp pen have 2k 24'' monitors so if you one day cando a test on tose would be pretty sweet too :3 !
@sankettonde8351
@sankettonde8351 3 жыл бұрын
i've been thinking weather i should transition from tablet to pen display too! thanks for this video.
@FlippedNormals
@FlippedNormals 3 жыл бұрын
Any time!
@andyhakim1970
@andyhakim1970 3 жыл бұрын
I use a Huion Kamvas GT-191 V2 together with a Razer Tartarus gaming keypad. It's quite an ergonomic setup.
@andyhakim1970
@andyhakim1970 3 жыл бұрын
Also, using a display tablet is more tiring than using a regular tablet because you're forced to sit up straight all the time while your drawing arm is in a raised position. Whereas with a regular graphics tablet you can just sit back and relax. Just pointing it out for anyone who's wondering.
@Kholaslittlespot1
@Kholaslittlespot1 3 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to run out of desk space and you gave me the great idea to dig out my old palm-sized G13 keyboard to have next to my tablet. The bonus of the G13 is that it has an analogue thumb stick I can use for navigating. I would reccomend getting one but sadly they don't make them anymore. There's plenty of similar things on the market. EDIT - nice sculpt for a first sculpt on some new hardware btw! Also, I wonder if it's worth looking at a screen protector?
@Kholaslittlespot1
@Kholaslittlespot1 3 жыл бұрын
It's about palm size, so less keys. 22 keys plus two 'mouse click' buttons and an analogue thumb stick. It also has a small screen for old school RSS feeds and game data. There's a few similar units out there these days. I know Razer made one and there's also fairly inexpensive ones that have mechanical keys for gaming.
@XxSharpieItBlackxX
@XxSharpieItBlackxX 3 жыл бұрын
Comment about a smaller keyboard: I use a Razer Tartarus V2. It's meant for gaming BUT it's perfect for one hand. It is marketed towards MMO gamers and those who put tons of macros for like combo move type stuff in games they play. But it has been extremely helpful for my Blender work!! You can map a whole keystroke shortcut to ONE keypress. So like in Blender you do Shift A? Boom. One key press instead of two fingers on a regular keyboard. Now I don't use Z Brush (yet, broke student lol) so I can't speak for how keystrokes and shortcuts work there, but having a one handed type keypad like the Tartarus is helpful!! Other brands have similar products, again marketed at gamers, but having a single hand sized "keyboard" is so helpful. You also have 20 keys, a mouse wheel, and an 8 way "joystick". And then have 3 profiles so really you have basically at least 60 keys so 60 key shortcuts for sculpting which could be really handy. I bought the Razer one because all my PC peripherals are Razer but I'm sure other similar products that allow for macros would work!! I know Logitech has one.
@daQuietsho
@daQuietsho 3 жыл бұрын
4:15 This is the exact problem I have to work around with my current drawing tablet and laptop... So to speak. I found it easier to stagger the gateway on a book or desk while my wacom bamboo sits a bit lower. I was chewing on the idea of getting a numbpad too so I could finally have tablet and quick keys side-by-side. Now that I wanna graduate to a full pen display, and seeing that you have a similar right hand/left hand setup within the program, (i could be mistaking default setup sorry) I'll definitely grab a numbpad or something smaller too!! Ps. Sorry I don't sculpt (yet), but I've doodled a fair bunches :D Pps... not sure why I zeroed in on that.. particular.. point.... Ahem.. carry on 😅
@tobiasheib5337
@tobiasheib5337 3 жыл бұрын
after i had the chance to work on a cintiq for a half year back in 2018, i bought a xp-pen artist 22HD (because i didn't want to spend too much on a display, and i was curious how different the experience would be) and to my suprise, after 2 years of working with my xp-pen, I am totally happy with my pen display. I never had issues / problems, it feels almost the same as the cintiq, it was quite cheaper, and i feel no difference. maybe I'm just lucky that i never had issues, because i heard the lack of support is a reason why people decide for a different product, but for me the xp-pen is as good as the cintiq.. but like 60% cheaper in the price. So if you don't want to spend too much money, and want to take the risk of not having good support if you have any problems with the driver etc. i recommend the xp-pen
@FlippedNormals
@FlippedNormals 3 жыл бұрын
That's perfect then!
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