They kinda do its called Ford trucks. High tech, very durable, reliable etc. #Yamaha #Fordtrucks

@@Davido50 yamaha works with Ford? Or a metaphor? Ford has been kicking ass in the truck game tho fact!

Like back when the SHO was a yamaha?

@@ChiefRickyRC yes

Not sure about that just bought a 2017 grizz 700 and have to bring it into yamaha as its smoking, got milky oil and burning oil as well. 708 motors are junk!

Do you have any implements?

@@POHLHAMMER just the finish mower! I wish I had the rough cut mower.

My father still has his and uses it daily in the summer.

That is Polaris for you. I really love the 570 Trail and would love to have one. I have known a few people who had the 570 engine in an ATV or the smaller SXS with great success over the years. I have also heard some horror stories concerning Polaris. I do know they have horrible bearings and bushings and probably it is best to replace all of them after the first season with aftermarket parts. This just adds another expense that shouldn't be needed for years. I will likely go with a new Kodiak 700 or King Quad 750 in the coming year.

Totally agree. I’ve owned one Yamaha, two Hondas and one Kawasaki. However, I just wish that Yamaha and Honda would step up in the engine department.

Nailed it! The 708 was known to consume oil. kubota used the same 708cc in their RTV-X850G side by side that also burned oil. The 708 originated from Subaru. They brought the 686 back because of proven reliability.

A friend of mine has a couple of Big Bear 350's, I believe they're both 1998 models, but yep they're both still going, the only somewhat negative side to them is they were in 4WD all the time, no 2WD mode. They run great, and plow snow really well as that's what they get used for most of the time now.

My '98 Big Bear still chugging along nicely. Not a speed demon, but goes anywhere the newer quads go.

Well said! 1999 Big Bear SE (Canadian S-E) is the same - going strong and likely to last many more years.

I appreciate that!

How do the wheel bearings hold up? I do a lot of trail riding the bike I have now the bearings are already shot at 3900km, I think im going to trade it in for a kodiak soon.

@@deadlyfraserI'm at 8,800 miles now, it needs a cv shaft now, I replaced the belt around 7,500 and the wheel bearings around 6,800 miles. motor still runs perfect

Yeah for sure I’ve had zero engine issues with my 16 grizzly 700

You are right...my 2017 with about 3000km went to the dealership 2 weeks ago for the oil burning issues at cold starts. Mine was outside warranty but Yamaha fixed free at no cost to me. They told me that the issues come from bad coatings on the internal of the engine...piston...rings...etc. So they installed a new stuff inside the engine. Will see in time.

From all accounts I have heard of they are doing a good job looking after their customers.

You are correct, 2019 Yamaha went back to the 686 Yamaha built motor.

The 708 in my wolverine rspec burns oil but it runs good. I just toper off and keep rolling.

I had a Yamaha Rhino 700 (686) never had any engine issues or CVT issues...it just sucked at the utility aspect of its job...it would quite easily tear up your yard, not sure why Yamaha can't put some sort of "Turf" mode in their UTVs, seems just about every other manufacturer does, most of the time you don't need a locked rear differential, would be nice if they made it selectable. Dump bed on them is a joke, yep 400lb bed capacity, if you want to lift it yourself to dump it LOL, seems quite a problem with all manufacturers though, not just a Yamaha thing. Not sure I'd buy another UTV, I think I'd just buy one of those mini-trucks if I wanted another utility vehicle...those mini trucks are about the same price or a bit cheaper than a UTV. At least with a mini-truck you get a cab, and usually at least a heater, sometimes they have AC as well.

Good info. Thanks

I thought the same thing. I would never drive that speed with one hand.

Power steering makes it much easier and safer.

And yet you will still be on the side of the trail in your highlighter toast getting towed by a grizzly 👌

@@quinton8312 HL had zero issues, my 2021 850 touring, zero issues, my 2017 Alterra, Zero issues. My 18 KQ had zero issues but that was traded for the HL. The only problem with Polaris that I've experienced in the 5000 kms I've had on them, I hate greasing them. But Can-Am has the same amount of grease fittings too. The Alterra is as maintenance free as my KQ was. But I assume that's because for a very long time Arctic Cat and Suzuki had a partnership with engines.

You have to remember that he’s talking about Canadian dollars. The 850 highlander is several thousand more than this kodiak 700 lol

@@tristan6351 I'm Canadian, my 2020 850 high lifter was $12,600. I was at the Suzuki dealer and a 750 was $13,500. I owned one, they're a good reliable ATV, but nowhere near touching a v twin let alone one that is fully snorkeled and has top quality expensive outlaw 2's. You're just not getting any bang for you buck. Japanese brands barely have any add-ons either. Let alone quick systems.

I'm at the point now where i've tried three brands of bikes that were fun and had whistles I just want something that's bulletproof and I think this is it. 2022 Polaris sportsman 1000 touring burns a quart of oil within a 1000km trip. Segway snarler, too many problems to list, can-am differential issues and bearings go bad fast. I dont even beat on my machines it's all trail riding.

Everyone says this but then I read peoples comments that have the 16s myself included that has had zero engine issues

Mines was having the problem but came out to be the clear tube was clogged.

2016 and early 17 had a few oil burners that were fully covered by yamaha. no other reliability issues

My 16 has been totally fine

not on these two

not really... yamaha is actually good, and not overpriced

subaru offered no help because yamaha bought subaru small engine division when they started the 708. only a small amount of 16/17 708 had issues, it was early production. get your facts straight

My break in period was getting it dropped off in my driveway new on 2016 and 30 seconds later I was going 107kph for half an hour, no oil issues whatsoever

@@darrellmcquay9808 cause you broke it in correctly. Hard break in all the way

Was asking myself the same question. It hurts my head just looking at that in 4by going that fast lol

My 16 grizzly goes 107-108 kph

I think it’s a Yamaha design, but Subaru screwed up. I think the Yamaha assembly plant was flooded or something.

yamaha bought Subaru small engine division at the time the 708 began production .

@@jasonmorehouse3756 Motor was designed by Subaru and it shows. That’s why Yamaha switched back.

@canadian That being said a friend of mine has the motor Yamaha abandoned and he drives the crap out of it. Wide open every chance he gets. In a SXS. Limited at 82 kph and that’s where he drives it. Still working great. 4000 km or 2400 miles on it.

Outdated is just a in one's opinion statement imo, when something is just right and likewise made right, it's reliable, you'd rather have a 687cc or just anything different in design so to say it's modern and not having the parts availability, aftermarket and known how.. I don't see how that "new or modern" trade off is a positive? The Ford F350 has a solid front axle because of it's duty list and performance needs so Ford stuck with that, it didnt deter buyer's because its dated, it just works. Same kind if thing designing a atv, if it works I don't think it's dated until it just grows old like anything and anyone else, when its new if its tried and true, that's a good thing imo. I like especially the mentality of the Grizzley being high ground clearance and harder to get on because its a half inch or inch taller, people have their ways of thinking and that's that I guess. The reality is a Kodiak dimensionally being a inch or 2 less wide and long compared to the grizzly is a good thing when doing technical tight trails, the difference in performance because of the length and width is negligible at best, ridiculous to think it's a better machine because of that and some clutching difference. Tires and suspension, mostly tires can alleviate the difference in ground clearance in seconds. Grizzly is made for the big spenders that Yamaha heard coming a mile away like any manufacturing company, money to burn baby well I say have at it. I'll get the Kodiak, change clutch weights and add 28" tires and be happy as all get out still having saved major coin over someone and their having to have the grizzly badge. Bit of a ramble and rant but I think a lot of people would agree with me here. Happy trails whatever you're riding.

Cam am > everything else.

@@gamebred5662 lol another short bus kid eh

we fell sorry for you

Dude all utility 4 wheelers are slow. No one buys them for top speed and if you did you bought the wrong bike.

@@FlawleZ31 The Polaris, Can-Am and Kawasaki 4 wheelers are pretty fast, in fact they are much faster than the Yamaha. Regardless, if you only run tight technical trails, then you’re right speed isn’t an issue. I run both tight trails and high speed gravel roads, so something that cruise comfortably at 55 mph plus is important for me. Cheers buddy. 😀

@@db3837 What is considered fast is relative. I come from the car and sport bike world where 1000+ horsepower cars are regular and the bikes are 1000cc+ with power adders. So when I dabble in offroad fun, trail riding, mudding, etc, anything in the utility class UTV or ATV is not fast. And it doesnt need to be. They're designed to go off road and traverse terrain. Sure theirs the sport ATVs but not really talking about them.

The trails I run are slow bumpy trails. Can’t do top end.

@@db3837 i find it funny that my 700 kodiak with my 300lb+ body on it will smoke a 750 brute with a 180lb rider and a 650 brute with a prob 210lb guy. my kodiak will easily cruise at 55 top is roughly 64 to 67

You heard wrong.

Only a few of them do. Most run absolutely fine.

@@thumperbangin2000 Well mine sure did. Glad I dumped that POS.

and here you are again spreading misinformation. was made by subaru small engine division who is owned by yamaha. not almost all... more like a few, mostly 16 and early 17.

Belts are warrantied for 10 years. I don’t know anyone who has replaced one. Local dealer doesn’t even stock them.

@@garybrown9062 NOTHING on a wheeler has a 10year warranty LMFAO

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Yamaha have wet clutches so the belt is always under tension. Honda has electronic transmission computers. Seen Honda leave people stranded. Never a yamaha

@@ktmfour1007 He's correct, Yamaha drive belts are warrantied for 10 years.

@@DodgeMan360 yea against defects not for wear. Good luck getting one warrantied.. Cant be contaminated with mud or water.. Read the warranty lol. They wont warranty a belt for normal wear