The 4.6 4v has always been a great engine. It's biggest limiting factor back then was the limited technology in the control pack to control the engine. Now that's no longer an issue, these things can spin faster and make a ton of power.
@midnight3478 ай бұрын
I understand exactly what you mean. This applies to all cobras, machs, marauders, gt500s etc that came with a badass 4v that is very capable because the money it takes to do a 5.0 swap could build a nasty 4v. Once they are built they can hold as much/more than a built sleeved coyote, ecsp the teksid cars. All of them can do over 1000 wheel reliably with forged internals. It would take a built coyote to equal this capability.
@relaxnewmexico76198 ай бұрын
I've owned several Mark 8's to feed my hunger for that sound. And a few Mark vii's for that 5.0 rumble. A rev happy manual shift build on an old school Ranchero for a goal.
@rizzo5388 ай бұрын
Yea i own a 94 mark and (with bias, of course) its probably my favorite sounding engine ever. I have my 2 front cats with x pipe into straight pipes and its amazing
@GrandPitoVic8 ай бұрын
I've seen 4.6s make some really good power. She sounds great!!!!
@robertsine88123 күн бұрын
Thank you. It’s the damn sound note that gets me. Incredible,
@NewEdgeDesigns8 ай бұрын
There are several crown Vic 4.6’s with over 1 mil miles on them also..
@snakebitten19978 ай бұрын
Love to hear it
@ThatOneGuySometime8 ай бұрын
Honestly, kinda stuck between possibly going 4V 5.4 intech and doing a 5.0/10-speed swap on my Vic. If I go 5.4 intech, I’ll just have my trans built, but the 5.0/10speed combo sounds like a sweet deal on a cruiser like my CVPI.
@midnight347Ай бұрын
Don't do the 5.0 10 speed it's so overdone to the point people act like if it isn't a coyote or 10 speed it can't be fast. Show people just how wrong that way of thinking is. With a built 5.4 4v you're gonna have mad torque and you won't need the insane gearing the 10 speed has. Coyote have less torque by comparison so they make their power with rpm thus the 10 speed helps alot. They also can't take power very good without being built once you get to 700 or 800 they start having issues. Do a built 5.4 and built 4r that's your best bet. If it were me I'd t56 magnum swap it but if you want auto the 4r would work well with a 5.4. 6r is also a great trans.
@NewEdgeDesigns8 ай бұрын
Great video, I agree!!
@mguevara2201Ай бұрын
Awesome Cobra! 💪👍
@AGBULLIT8 ай бұрын
Great looking engine.
@RA-lk1vz6 күн бұрын
Pretty good video! Make sure you do the cooling head mod - Cobra Engineering I think is the best.
@snakebitten19973 күн бұрын
Rear MMR was installed before the engine ever turned over
@robertsine88123 күн бұрын
They are a long lasting motor typically yes. Good mechanics will often say they are tried and tested. And fairly easy to work on. Providing they are well maintained of course.
@GrandPitoVic8 ай бұрын
Slap a quick timing set on her and she'll run forever. A timing set on a 5 OH with cam phasers are friggin crazy expensive cause you have to buy the phasers from Ford or you will have major problems.
@snakebitten19978 ай бұрын
Something else I forget to mention was, I’ve never heard of anyone having to upgrade oil pumps, pump gears, or crank sprockets on 4.6’s, like ever. It just seems like theirs a bit more tedious expensive things you need to do to a 5.0 to make it ready or last longevity wise if you’re going to really send these engines. Whereas a 4.6 you do not need to do those things.
@midnight3476 ай бұрын
The opg crap is just snake oil that has been sold to the coyote community as a necessity. The coyote is a good option too you can find nice gen 1s with 80-100k in good shape for 3500 that is mustang versions too. Not all coyotes coat 10 grand lol. If you're just trying to make big boosted power the 4v can do that easy. If you want a 500 rwhp 8000 rpm all motor setup the coyote is easier and cheaper. The 4v can do that but it takes alot more modding to do it including aftermarket ecu and stuff and you'd have to run a Sullivan intake they don't have many intake options ecsp for b head cars. With the coyote you just need cobra jet and cams plus headers and exhaust to get to those power levels the b head will need this plus built bottom end with alot of compression, killer valve train and intake, ported heads, aftermarket ecu to Rev it over 7000 reliably, etc. The 4v motors do killer for boost if you just wanna make 700 wheel boosted that is easy rods pistons and boost...but for a 500 rwhp na 8000 rpm setup the coyote is easier and cheaper to do that with. .the coyote is basically a newer version of the same thing anyways. Either is pretty reliable if maintained.
@brianspangler37718 ай бұрын
10:48. Where can I get that factory-style pcv hose with running from the cold air intake to the driver side of the intake manifold cover under the IAC valve?
@midnight347Ай бұрын
Also it aint just the 4.6 that sounds wicked its all the older mod motors they have the same firing order as the old windsors. This includes the 5.4 and 5.8 4v and 5.4 2v and 4.6 3v they all sound killer.
@midnight347Ай бұрын
I give you props for being a young guy and not following the crowd like most do. Its cool that you see value in these older engines. Most people coyote swap because they just wanna keep up with the internet jones' so to speak. I have nothing against a coyote theyre clearly awesome it is more the coyote or nothing fanboys that bug me. They dont wanna give these older engines a fair shake. Theyre like the coyote can do it with less modding no shit its alot newer and alot more expensive. Nobody's gonna think a 90s 4v is bettee than a coyote stock for stock. But if you already have a 4v the money you spend on a coyote could build one badass 4v. Im thinking of doing a 5.3 stroker one with 12:1 compression and cams, ported b heads and a ported short runner stock manifold for that sleeper look. Nobody is gonna is gonna expect that to be well over 400 rwhp on e85 just looking at the engine even with a tuned factory ecu only reving to like 7200. The 5.3 allows me to make the power at a lower rpm this not needing to spin as fast thus not needing a stand alone to make it more budget friendly. It will also allow more torque. You could always throw a turbo on it later if i really wanna get down i have a 750 rwhp 07 gt500 i dont necessarily need another big power boosted car i want an na handling oriented build. I seen a built 11.7:1 5.3 make 490/407 to the tire on e85 on youtube. That is obviously using a better manifold and stand alone but it just shows what they can do.
@4valvemark988 ай бұрын
I love the 4 valve in my mark its a tower of power even in stock form it loves to shift at 6100 which is past its 6000 rpm reading on the tach. I keep up with rt challengers/chargers it makes me wanna throw on an xpipe and cobra intake manifold to free up some corked power 🔥
@midnight347Ай бұрын
Do a ported short runner cobra manifold, headers and some steep gearing with a stall. I mean like 430s. It would be a totally different animal. You could Rev it to 7000 easily especially with aftermarket cams.
@95Sn95Ай бұрын
110% agree, if you just have to coyote swap do it to an old GT no one would care, why molest a cobra with its special hand built 32v.... Coyote swapping a cobra imo just ruined the cars specialness, Every new V8 mustang has a coyote and most are nothing special just another mustang..... It's the same as Coyote swapping a 94/95, Why? It has the legendary 5.0HO, if it has one just leave it a Windsor! those 2 years are kinda special imo, there used the new SN chassis but retained the fox 5.0 engine, is it better or worse? who cares. It may sound shitty but while being a great car still the least special mustang is the 2v 4.6 engine cars, if you have to molest a mustang do up one of those. Anyway sweet ride I'm glad you kept it original.
@midnight347Ай бұрын
I agree to an extent with what you're saying other than keeping the 302 in 94-95 cars. I would at least do a 408 Windsor in it if not a new godzilla swap. I understand wanting to keep it pushrod but there are better Ford options than the 302.
@matthewruss5008Ай бұрын
Quoting my man bst... nice
@YardbirdPerformance24 күн бұрын
What are the wheels? They’d look really sharp on my silver Marauder. 😎✌️
@abowla718724 күн бұрын
Where's your strut tower brace?
@setharnold36992 ай бұрын
The car is badass and sounds better than any new sports cars!
@suqmadiq66538 ай бұрын
Neither one is universally better than the other. There are a number of factors. Your budget, your personal level of expertise building cars, and the vehicle platform are at the top of the list, but there are still other factors too. I can easily see how, in some instances, one build type would be clearly better than the other but for the most part, both are great options for most vehicles, most of the time.
@GrandPitoVic6 ай бұрын
That is true, well said
@williammiller853112 сағат бұрын
The best reason to keep the 4.6 32V motor is because it sounds 10x better than the coyote engine.
@DriftDreams2426 ай бұрын
Man I hate that release bearing noise lol, my 4v swap is making that same noise 😂
@P71ScrewHead8 ай бұрын
Sweet car man.. Yeah, i'm not a fan of the Coyote nor ls swappers.. Unless it's a shell you want to save, or came with a 4cy or v6, build what came in the car.. Or swap to a BBF/BBC..lol
@bradwhite48278 ай бұрын
Dude love the 4 valve. Glad you kept it brutha! Do you still have your Mach? I have a white Mach 03. Always gonna have a 4 valve in it lol!
@snakebitten19978 ай бұрын
I sold it, last video with the bent rod explanation I explained why I sold the Mach 1 and why my dad sold his cobra. Always keeping a 4.6 ❤️🤝
@anthonylaudano94357 ай бұрын
@@snakebitten1997NOW LET ME JUST SAY I LOVE MUSTANGS AND I HAVE 8 AND WHAT I WILL SAY NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE WON'T LIKE BUT THE 96 98 COBRA MOTORS WERE VERY WEAK AND IT DIDN'T TAKE MUCH TO BLOW ONE UP AND THE BEST FORD MOTOR IS IN 03 04 COBRAS PERIOD.
@pilargarcis60277 ай бұрын
@@anthonylaudano9435dude you’re still on that bullshit just because you’re broke??? Not every 96-98 cobra came with a defective 4.6 4v
@javierquiroga16588 ай бұрын
96-99 came with teksid blocks ,2001 came with a wap block some early 2001 cobras came with a leftover teksid block
@snakebitten19978 ай бұрын
Hey the more you know! Didn’t know that, cool to know they had extras
@darrellbraddy43344 ай бұрын
My 98 Mark VIII has 271K and running strong,no oil use between changes
@69BOSS429Ай бұрын
I truthfully agree with everything you said. However, there are plenty of 5.0’s with 200k-400k miles. Especially in the 150’s. Ecoboost are just, ive only seen a few with 200-300k
@midnight347Ай бұрын
The eco isn't junk people just don't maintain them right. Ford says (for some stupid reason) you can do 10k mile oil changes which is ridiculous especially for a highish compression twin turbo motor. The turbos heat the oil more and break it down more. They need really good synthetic oil changes every 5k at most especially if you're modding. Lots of people don't even change it at 10k they wanna mod stuff and beat on it without maintaining it.
@tylrjsph7 ай бұрын
I think all mustang V8s sound good
@tylrjsph7 ай бұрын
you live in polk county?
@miguellucio7212 ай бұрын
why did you not go higher on the compression?
@snakebitten19972 ай бұрын
Dude my compression is stupid high I’m 11.1:1 factory 96-98 cobra motors run 9.85:1 stock
@miguellucio7212 ай бұрын
@@snakebitten1997 Not bad, I might try 12.0:1 want to stay on 93oct
@Khalidsvt1013 ай бұрын
4v cheaper and gets the job done coyotes are newer technology and definitely better but need alot of to build one 💰💰
@midnight347Ай бұрын
What exactly constitutes better? More power stock? More power with lower boost? If you wanna do that build a 12:1 4v with short runner and aftermarket ecu spin it to 8000 like coyotes and see how much power it makes on low boost. It'll be alot lol...I mean anyone can see how 12:1, 8k rpm and e85 could be used together to make crazy power on not alot of boost. It is also a 5 liter vs 4.6 so the displacement alone will eat some boost causing it to make more on less. Do a big bore 5 liter 4v with 12:1, cams and 8k rpm it's amazing how close to new coyotes it can get. They're just more optimal stock vs stock because they're far newer with more tech. Once it's built vs built the old 4v can hold its own and then some.
@midnight347Ай бұрын
Theyre really not expensive to build. A coyote is gonna cost just as much to build if not more. If you just throw a gen 1 truck motor in there it wont be near as capable as a fully forged 4v. Even a gen 2 or 3 coyote doesnt have as much capability as a fully forged teksid 4v. This is something alot dont consider.