I spent a career in real estate appraisal where the object was to determine what the "fair market value" of a piece of real estate was. People in this profession have to actually pass a series of tests which licenses them to demonstrate that they understand the principles of valuation in an effort to prove what a piece of real estate would sell for to a "willing buyer". Card graders have no universally accepted test that they have to pass, and as a result, two different graders can assign radically different grades to a card depending upon their knowledge, experience, emotions and what they ate for breakfast on that day. In short, it is still the wild wild west out there where money is created and uncreated at the whim of someone who might be completely unqualified for the task of assigning a grade and hence the value of the collectible in question.

Submit, get bad grade, resubmit, rinse, repeat, pay grader everytime.....yes, grading is a scam.

Amazing cards! Those sixes were strong. These companies are using magnification and blue lights looking for things the naked eye can’t see.

Nice cards! All those centered cards look gorgeous

AI grading is the future. It removes the human element and prevents cracking and resubmitting. Every card is like a fingerprint and given a certification number.

Awesome cards, love the selections. I've sent in to SGC about a dozen times or so, maybe have gotten Authentics 3x, which is fine. I don't sell so I've gotten passed being upset over getting an A if it still looks good. SGC has given me 8.5s on 60s and 70s cards but also some other head scratchers as well. Comes with the territory and something Im sure will never go away. Thanks for sharing!

As a collector, I love 3's, 4's and 5's. I ran out of kidney's chasing 8's and 9's. You have some awesome cards with great centering.

Great video! Love the cards. Eye appeal is fantastic despite the grades. With what everyone now knows about grading, we shouldn’t still be this far apart (submitters expectations vs grader’s subjectivity). Some companies are trying to offer more explanations behind their grades, which is what we need. but until the practice becomes universal, a lot of people will not trust the big Co’s (myself included).

Based on the trimmed card grades you got back it seems using an empty case to determine if it’s been trimmed isn’t working. And the fact one grader gave the Nitschke a 6 and the next grader (could be the same guy) gave it a 7.5 shows grading is an absolute lottery and IMO a scam.

It’s a scam, I sent a couple to test, they grade based on how they feel that day.

The charges are robbery! Why should they get a bigger chunk for a more valuable card, the work they put into each card is essentially the same. They are a rip off.

Beautiful cards man .. most of them centered very nice!

Centering, is 4th to check. Surface, corners, edges,,,, Centering.

I'm done with PSA also. SGC is the way to go, but am disappointed that they sold to Collectors. They should have stayed as is,but I don't know their financial books. I do know that they moved into a bigger location this last year as well. Hopefully a 10 will be a 10 and sell for higher now that they are over-viewed by PSA . Prices get more in-line with PSA prices. Just hoping. Eye appeal first and foremost.

Man some great cards , luv them awesome video! Keep it up !!

Man those cards look better than the grades…..

Grading is def a scam, think about it this way, the grading companies also control the population count as well

It is more a money grab.

New subscriber, really enjoyed this video. I send a lot of cards to SGC ( my grader of choice) for the most part I think they are fairly consistent although, I do believe that grading companies have become a lot more stringent today than in years past. I have a Yaz RC that is min size from the factory that they won't give a number grade, think that needs to change, if they know that is how it was cut at the factory they should grade it accordingly.

So-called blazers, 9's & 10's, from the 'vintage' era IMO generally come out of Topps 'presentation' sets. Presentation Sets were produced, carefully, and slowly, at the beginning of a print run, for inspection, and were distributed to 'friends, family and associates'.

BGS doesn’t use evidence of trimming. They basically just say it was altered. I pulled the Elly de La Cruz Superfractor auto from ‘22 Pro Debut. Sold it for 3K and apparently the buyer sold it to someone else who sent it to BGS. The card was NM/M when I pulled it. Who knows why they tried to trim the thing. A 9 on that card with a 10 auto would have been worth a lot more if they just left it alone

It can’t be a scam when you lose and the greatest thing since sliced bread when you win.

True 10’s in vintage cards are generally unattainable… however, I personally thought each of these grades were bumped down a notch. As you stated, I’ve seen a 61 Clemente in an 8 and yours looks outstanding! The 66 Rose as well. Though I was personally disappointed in the grades, your video is a go to with dealers selling ungraded cards. They will try the “ probably a 8-8.5 grade “ even with a OC card. I do like the slabs but unfortunately it categorizes a card forever. People see the big graded number and go from there…

💪awesome cards, very excellent condition

The grading companies give the large dealers better grades IMO.

More like a subjective swindle. The graders are trained but each individual has a unique perspective and the grades prove this. Those cards you presented are phenomenal! If that fat stack was in the other magnetic holders we’d all be blown away. As for the authentic grades due to trimming that is a problem. Any of us who’ve opened sealed packs from the vintage era knows if you take the stack from the wax & hold them all together, they aren’t all exactly the same size. Your 1960 Clemente & 1965 World Series Mick the Quick home-run cards are spectacular looking, both are MINT at least & I’ve been closely scrutinizing all of these card sets since 1974.

I dunno about graded cards cuz its subject to one person opinion on what the card grade is. Just cuz one person at psa says the card is a 5 doesn't mean it's a 5. For all we know, the card could be a 4 or a 6. And it shouldn't matter who grades the card, the grade the card gets shouldn't change if it's in the same condition if u send it to psa or sgc or whoever. Just cuz one grading company has different ways to determine a grade that grade should always be the same. For example: 2+2 is always gonna equal 4. No matter who is doing the math 2+2=4. It doesn't change. Same way with grading cards. Unless for some reason the card condition changed like there's a new crease or a ding corner when there wasn't one before then and only then should the grade be different. People pay so much money when buying graded cards when that might not be the true grade of that card. If u sent that card to 5 different grading company and it came back the same grade then I can say that card is a 5.

Grades seemed fair to me. Nothing out of the ordinary. Thought that 2nd year Morgan would be a 7.5. must of had a defect somewhere. Huge bump on the 63 🏈 rc

Yeah it is and this is why. These people grading cards are no more professionals than I am and each card is subjective to each person. What one may think is a 8 the next may think it's a 6! What actually makes these people think they are professionals to grade cards? ANYBODY can do that job. And I'd bet PSA has lord knows how many people doing it cause of millions of submissions. It's a joke

Im taking mine to a catd shiw and aubmitting them so that doesn't happen. Those all should be 6-9

Even though the back sides are faded you got lucky sgc

New to the channel. I thought the mid grades were fine, but feels like the grader wasn't used to high grade vintage. Where are you finding these cards in the wild?

They need to explain their grades in my opinion.

Grading companies have become too stringent for sure

Yes it’s a scam because if you have a card that could potentially be a big moneymaker they are going to get their cut !

Your 1961 Clemente is worthy of an 8 ….1961 Mantle is definitely a 7 …it’s truly unjust when these grading companies dictate who gets the better grade

A "4" on that Joe Morgan is a joke. I went back, paused and scanned your card many times and I don't see any issues that would drop it to a "4". The only possibility is that there's dimples or something like that which can't be seen via your video. But even if that was the case, no way does it deserve a "4". Grading is absolutely a scam!! P.S. - made my comment before watching the entire video. You went on to mention that these cards don't have surface issues. That makes the grading even more of a joke AND a scam!

Evidence of trimming on that 1957 Mantle!!! Ouch!! Imagine paying over 700.00 only to find out it's worthless.. 😢😢😢😢

Awesome lot of cards, you were definitely robbed on the 61 Mick!!

Is it possible that the edges are worn. I have a 79 Ryan. Looks perfect. But when I put it under 10x, the bottom edge paint is cracking. Should I still send it in for grading?

Answer to your question lies with the undetectable flaws not visible to the naked eye.

Wish I would have thought of this SCAM years ago....

I've been collecting for a long time n never sent in cards for grading. I like them ungraded however when I buy a high end card it's graded. I'm building the 66T set n PSA was real tough especially the Morgan card! Should've have been higher n others. instead of buying a case just use a modern card n put on top of each other. It's a lot cheaper.

No more than modern trading cards are, especially with their nonstop and ridiculous parallels.

I have a Jordan/Griffey Jr. Card that I opened from a pack. The card seems like it was trimned judging by the magnetic protector. The card is beautiful but if that causes a lower grade Im not sending it in. Is that common?

Shooting this vertically made this a tough watch. In saying that I’m interested in the 64 mantle

Scamming is a grade

Your Ray Nitschee is a prime example grading is bogus. I buy graded cards if the price is right, but I wont send any in for grading.

Yes

At times grading does appear to have an unsavory and sleazy aspect to it.

I would be demanding a refund, the company you used has no idea how to grade. Those were some very nice cards.

I didn't watch the video, but yes.

I don't get how that 64 mantle is trimmed, it looked like it filled the whole slab. I assume now crack those open and sell raw?

Thanks for sharing. I recently bought some cards. Mostly, 70s and early 80s. The cards look great, but under 10x, they don't look so good. I'm learning about grading by watching videos. I just sent my first submission to psa today. The cards look perfect. Made sure they were centered with the centering tool. Looked at them under 10x. . I'll be highly disappointed if they don't come back with 10 grades. I have Jordan's that look new. They just came out of sets. Did I mention I bought these cards from a former card dealer. He closed his business down in 2003. Yes, most of it has been picked thru. But it looks like whoever went thru was looking mainly for baseball cards and missed the basketball cards. I probably have over a million cards. Too bad for me, a lot of it is junk wax.

yup

When grades come back good "I love grading! I'll keep doing it!". When grades come back bad "It's a scam".

They pop control the vintage cards to death modern they dont

Are any of these for sale?

Who trims a '57 Mantle and leaves it that off-center?

Yes, yes it's a scam

Yes grading is a scame iv been collecting for 35 years and the changes modern people are trying to make will come back to haunt yall

I'm not sure about grading. I think people put blind faith in all these companies. If you are getting things "professionally" graded they should have to justify the grades. Notes as to why the grade is the grade otherwise it's not "professional" I did not like where the hobby was going with grading over 25 years ago and I still don't like it. You all just blindly giving away your money to these companies who can arbitrarily say it's this grade without any justification.

They are off centered on the back

Everything is a scam son.