Beautiful cards man .. most of them centered very nice!

A "4" on that Joe Morgan is a joke. I went back, paused and scanned your card many times and I don't see any issues that would drop it to a "4". The only possibility is that there's dimples or something like that which can't be seen via your video. But even if that was the case, no way does it deserve a "4". Grading is absolutely a scam!! P.S. - made my comment before watching the entire video. You went on to mention that these cards don't have surface issues. That makes the grading even more of a joke AND a scam!

Yes, yes it's a scam

Answer to your question lies with the undetectable flaws not visible to the naked eye.

Great video! Love the cards. Eye appeal is fantastic despite the grades. With what everyone now knows about grading, we shouldn’t still be this far apart (submitters expectations vs grader’s subjectivity). Some companies are trying to offer more explanations behind their grades, which is what we need. but until the practice becomes universal, a lot of people will not trust the big Co’s (myself included).

Who trims a '57 Mantle and leaves it that off-center?

Man those cards look better than the grades…..

I'm not sure about grading. I think people put blind faith in all these companies. If you are getting things "professionally" graded they should have to justify the grades. Notes as to why the grade is the grade otherwise it's not "professional" I did not like where the hobby was going with grading over 25 years ago and I still don't like it. You all just blindly giving away your money to these companies who can arbitrarily say it's this grade without any justification.

No more than modern trading cards are, especially with their nonstop and ridiculous parallels.

I spent a career in real estate appraisal where the object was to determine what the "fair market value" of a piece of real estate was. People in this profession have to actually pass a series of tests which licenses them to demonstrate that they understand the principles of valuation in an effort to prove what a piece of real estate would sell for to a "willing buyer". Card graders have no universally accepted test that they have to pass, and as a result, two different graders can assign radically different grades to a card depending upon their knowledge, experience, emotions and what they ate for breakfast on that day. In short, it is still the wild wild west out there where money is created and uncreated at the whim of someone who might be completely unqualified for the task of assigning a grade and hence the value of the collectible in question.

At times grading does appear to have an unsavory and sleazy aspect to it.

Your 1961 Clemente is worthy of an 8 ….1961 Mantle is definitely a 7 …it’s truly unjust when these grading companies dictate who gets the better grade

I would be demanding a refund, the company you used has no idea how to grade. Those were some very nice cards.

When grades come back good "I love grading! I'll keep doing it!". When grades come back bad "It's a scam".

Your Ray Nitschee is a prime example grading is bogus. I buy graded cards if the price is right, but I wont send any in for grading.

Are any of these for sale?

I’ve been saying what are saying for years. The bigger question is why does an 8 sell for prices so ridiculously more than a 7 when we can’t tell the difference and when there is a possibility on a different day that 7 could get an 8 if resubmitted?

The Jenkins looks like it has chipping on the bottom edge, print marks on the grey box around the names, and a stain on the back left side. The Mays lower right corner is tipped. Grades make sense to me.

Why do PSA 6 or 7’s sell way better than a SGC?

I tend to view things in thirds. A 66 Mays as a 6-7 is equivalent to a modern day 9-10 in that, we simply didn’t care about the corners and centering back in the 60’s and 70’s as they did starting in the late 80’s! Finding uncirculated vintage cards are truly a rarity! For me, finding a 3-5 grade is 100% acceptable for my PC. Modern cards are different… anything less than an 8 I never touch! All my modern cards are 8 and up… that 65 Maris is a beautiful card

New subscriber, really enjoyed this video. I send a lot of cards to SGC ( my grader of choice) for the most part I think they are fairly consistent although, I do believe that grading companies have become a lot more stringent today than in years past. I have a Yaz RC that is min size from the factory that they won't give a number grade, think that needs to change, if they know that is how it was cut at the factory they should grade it accordingly.

I dunno about graded cards cuz its subject to one person opinion on what the card grade is. Just cuz one person at psa says the card is a 5 doesn't mean it's a 5. For all we know, the card could be a 4 or a 6. And it shouldn't matter who grades the card, the grade the card gets shouldn't change if it's in the same condition if u send it to psa or sgc or whoever. Just cuz one grading company has different ways to determine a grade that grade should always be the same. For example: 2+2 is always gonna equal 4. No matter who is doing the math 2+2=4. It doesn't change. Same way with grading cards. Unless for some reason the card condition changed like there's a new crease or a ding corner when there wasn't one before then and only then should the grade be different. People pay so much money when buying graded cards when that might not be the true grade of that card. If u sent that card to 5 different grading company and it came back the same grade then I can say that card is a 5.

Awesome cards, love the selections. I've sent in to SGC about a dozen times or so, maybe have gotten Authentics 3x, which is fine. I don't sell so I've gotten passed being upset over getting an A if it still looks good. SGC has given me 8.5s on 60s and 70s cards but also some other head scratchers as well. Comes with the territory and something Im sure will never go away. Thanks for sharing!

Wish I would have thought of this SCAM years ago....

Grades seemed fair to me. Nothing out of the ordinary. Thought that 2nd year Morgan would be a 7.5. must of had a defect somewhere. Huge bump on the 63 🏈 rc

The charges are robbery! Why should they get a bigger chunk for a more valuable card, the work they put into each card is essentially the same. They are a rip off.

Yes

Centering, is 4th to check. Surface, corners, edges,,,, Centering.

They need to explain their grades in my opinion.

Awesome lot of cards, you were definitely robbed on the 61 Mick!!

I have a Jordan/Griffey Jr. Card that I opened from a pack. The card seems like it was trimned judging by the magnetic protector. The card is beautiful but if that causes a lower grade Im not sending it in. Is that common?

Evidence of trimming on that 1957 Mantle!!! Ouch!! Imagine paying over 700.00 only to find out it's worthless.. 😢😢😢😢

So-called blazers, 9's & 10's, from the 'vintage' era IMO generally come out of Topps 'presentation' sets. Presentation Sets were produced, carefully, and slowly, at the beginning of a print run, for inspection, and were distributed to 'friends, family and associates'.

yup

AI grading is the future. It removes the human element and prevents cracking and resubmitting. Every card is like a fingerprint and given a certification number.

Question is how many vintage cards that do have a grade should have been ''authentic'' instead. I don't have much faith when it comes to PSA and SGC knowing the difference between a trimmed card and one that isn't.

If you go on the SGC website they have descriptions for, each assigned grade. This is what it says for an SGC 6: 75/25 or better centering, slight fuzzing of corners may be evident, skewed cut may be more evident, focus or register may be off, and slight notching of edges may exist. It's hard to tell from watching the video which of your cards were under graded. Would have to see them in person. You do bring up some valid points though when it comes to the people looking over the cards. Don't know what their experience is when it comes to cards. How much training they had. The amount of time they have to grade a card given that they have so many to go through. It might not be until PSA and SGC have sophisticated AI assisted technology that they will be able to grade any card, and come as close as possible to being accurate. TAG Is one of the very few companies who are using the technology. Will be interesting to see if PSA/SGC buys them out and uses their tech to grade, and also spot cards that were either altered, or had been cracked out of a slab, and was already graded by someone else.

How do you prep your cards? Do you use a loop? It’s not just centering that makes the grade. I guarantee the Bo Jackson has some type of ink spot on the surface that you can’t see.

Cards weren't properly stored until the 80's. Also it was hard to pull 8's and 9's fresh from the pack. Printing and centering flaws galore and the edges would get shredded by dull blades during the cut.

Yes grading is a scame iv been collecting for 35 years and the changes modern people are trying to make will come back to haunt yall

That last point you nailed. Eloquently put and I personally don’t think it’s a theory anymore. I absolutely believe it’s a tactic to keep the inventory coming in. With that said, it’s a tough situation we’ve all found ourselves in with vintage especially. Case in point, I’m scared most of the time buying raw vintage, especially more upscale because of the tampering that goes on. So what do I do? I buy a slab that at least authenticates my card…we suppose. But all good points man. Well thought out video and I’m with you.

You could be possibly correct!! Some mighty fine cards! I’d buy them vintage cards all day long at them grades!

Amazing cards! Those sixes were strong. These companies are using magnification and blue lights looking for things the naked eye can’t see.

Psa doesn't have enough quality graders at Psa and grading vintage baseball, basketball and football take longer. Since Psa buying sgc wonder if the system of gradings is changed , Psa gets over 2 million card's a month and most are morden prizm and rarely see vintage. Plus Psa doesn't trainee graders the same and no consistency.

Yeah it is and this is why. These people grading cards are no more professionals than I am and each card is subjective to each person. What one may think is a 8 the next may think it's a 6! What actually makes these people think they are professionals to grade cards? ANYBODY can do that job. And I'd bet PSA has lord knows how many people doing it cause of millions of submissions. It's a joke

They are off centered on the back

Scamming is a grade

May I ask how much an SHC “8” is worth?

PSA has been shafting collectors since they put their “higher” grading standards. They hope you sell it to one of their “preferred “ customers who buy it off of you for a lower price, resubmit it then they get a PSA “9” on the card. The good news is that some of the grading companies, which I will not name, have become so crooked that The FBI now has a dedicated team looking into graded card fraud. If these companies keep it up, I believe in 5 to 10 years 4:16 The FBI will make them look so bad that ALL their graded cards won’t be worth a damb. You heard it here 1st…..

As a collector, I love 3's, 4's and 5's. I ran out of kidney's chasing 8's and 9's. You have some awesome cards with great centering.