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Is Channel 5 RIPPING OFF Channel 4?!

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Adam Martyn

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I know I said I wouldn't do it... but we're taking a look at CHANNEL 4's logo history! And also the logo history of CHANNEL 5! And we pose the question, is Channel 5 ripping off Channel 4 in the logo department...?
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@Remake5182
@Remake5182 4 ай бұрын
Channel 4: You copied me Channel 5: No I did not, mine ends in a 5.
@davepoole9520
@davepoole9520 4 ай бұрын
Hamlet cigars: OK Channel 5, we copied Channel 4 for a joke advert back in the day doing a 5 instead so are you saying you copied us instead?
@matthewpayton
@matthewpayton 4 ай бұрын
Channel 4 logo is iconic
@AdamMartyn
@AdamMartyn 4 ай бұрын
Too right!
@sallehmohamed7864
@sallehmohamed7864 Ай бұрын
​@@AdamMartyn We also have a channel from Mediacorp which is called Channel 5 which is a English channel and you were born in Singapore, right!
@glassowlie
@glassowlie 4 ай бұрын
As soon as Channel 5 rebranded, WEWS-TV stole the 2011 logo on coloured it blue.
@UandAlibitube
@UandAlibitube 4 ай бұрын
And put the abc logo on it
@SigmaRho2922
@SigmaRho2922 4 ай бұрын
@@UandAlibitubeYep. The rebranding happened in February 2016 but the logo change in Cleveland did not happened until September of that year.
@BalticoYT
@BalticoYT 4 ай бұрын
I was gonna say, as an American, the 2011 Channel 5 logo looks like one of those logos generic number-based station logos you would see in the USA. It doesn't scream anything to me as an American because it looks so generic.
@villagernumber77
@villagernumber77 4 ай бұрын
Viacom about to sue disney with this one
@LexVanguard2004
@LexVanguard2004 4 ай бұрын
I really like that this is becoming a series, part of me hopes to see you cover CBBC and CITV someday, they've got some really varied looks from over the years!
@samwyatt3544
@samwyatt3544 4 ай бұрын
Don’t forget the channel 5 logo changed more frequently due to ownership changes.
@rhodrage
@rhodrage 4 ай бұрын
I always found it funny they they just named the channels."4," and "5."
@Sheffield_Steve
@Sheffield_Steve 4 ай бұрын
It could have been ITA/ITV2 or ITA/ITV3 etc. like they used to be on manual TV sets! 😉
@scottpeacock5492
@scottpeacock5492 4 ай бұрын
@@Sheffield_Steve Yeah i saw that on a tv set in a care home i was working at in the 90's. As i work as a caretaker at the time, Had to tune in an elderly tv set which she messed up. But you must remember UHF 625 line was only cater for four channel service.
@SofiaPreCure
@SofiaPreCure 4 ай бұрын
I don't live in the UK but Channel 5 is the channel of Milkshake! 🩷
@rhodrage
@rhodrage 4 ай бұрын
@@SofiaPreCure That's Channel 5
@SofiaPreCure
@SofiaPreCure 4 ай бұрын
@rhodrage Oh okie! I accidentally said Channel 4
@chrisnichols1957
@chrisnichols1957 4 ай бұрын
I prefer the original logo...especially the circle within a box version...as the D.O.G it just was so neat in the top left corner of the screen
@NosteralGaming
@NosteralGaming 4 ай бұрын
I always assumed channel 5 was related/owned by channel 4, just based on the current logo’s resemblance
@RatzaChewy
@RatzaChewy 4 ай бұрын
The increase of the negative space in the 2015 Channel 4 logo was to increase legibility at small sizes (web, basically). They found a happy medium with the current one.
@TeleviseGuy
@TeleviseGuy 4 ай бұрын
For me, the logo for Channel 4 looks like a simplified representation of a bridge
@AdamMartyn
@AdamMartyn 4 ай бұрын
I enjoy that interpretation!
@glassowlie
@glassowlie 4 ай бұрын
I see it as a helicopter.
@j0hnf_uk
@j0hnf_uk 4 ай бұрын
One side of a suspension bridge, presumably?
@robtyman4281
@robtyman4281 4 ай бұрын
Channel 5 is actually emerging as a decent channel - and has come a long way from its low budget, wobbly beginnings - back in 1997. It has alot of good programmes now. Unfortunately the same can't be said for Channel Four, which has become increasingly tacky and vulgar over the last decade. More 4 is infinitely better than its older sibling. I always think the main Channel 4 as being very odd these days. It's a channel stuffed with tat, raucous (not very funny) comedy, and just quite alot of rubbish programmes. All this exists around a serious in-depth, quality News programme. But this has been the case for many years now. All the interesting, thought provoking programmes are now on More 4, while Channel 4 itself gets the junk, and the bits More 4 doesn't want. Channel Five is a much more 'balanced' channel now. With Five Extra filling the 'More 4' role, though not quite aswell. Overall the main Channel 5 is imo, better now than the main Channel 4. You couldn't say this five years ago. Channel 5 is looking good, but Channel 4 needs a bit of a 'shake up'.
@redrawurworld
@redrawurworld 27 күн бұрын
something i haven't seen pointed out is the fact that all of the blocks each have four sides each, and i think that's really clever
@Sheffield_Steve
@Sheffield_Steve 4 ай бұрын
I know the Channel 4 logo/ident was brought to us in 1982, but it's amazing that after being squeezed into circles and the blocks being shoved into roadsigns, etc. and whatever the f**k that dancing neanderthal creature was! It shows that you can't f**k with this branding. It's like trying to mess around with the MTV logo or something just as iconic!
@MediaCentUK
@MediaCentUK 4 ай бұрын
Yes its a cheap version of the iconic Channel 4 logo except that on the 4 theres 9 pieces & on the 5 there's literally 5 pieces!!
@MrNoahsparkie
@MrNoahsparkie 4 ай бұрын
It is 5, that is why it has 5.
@Lando4Life
@Lando4Life 4 ай бұрын
Well it's been 7 years so it's about time 5 has a rebrand
@Tom_murray89
@Tom_murray89 4 ай бұрын
Love your channel hope you’re well
@Reurovision
@Reurovision 4 ай бұрын
always happy to see an adam martyn TV channel video! i watch most of them on my TV :)
@steeviebops
@steeviebops 4 ай бұрын
The revamped Channel 4 logo in the early 90s did make it into the Channel 4 News titles for a while, but it was replaced with the original.
@ErinStephanie-mf2qk
@ErinStephanie-mf2qk 4 ай бұрын
In the 80s and 90s, Channel 4, was a pretty radical and leftfield station. That was pushing boundaries, that other channels couldn’t. And then in the 00s, under pressure from advertisers, it’s idea of ‘radical programming’, degenerated into stuff that insisted on punching down at people. It was positioning itself as ‘anti woke’, long before the opposite term. was in common usage. Then came online platforms like YT, which enabled people to do exactly the stuff C4 used to do, but without the permission of a C4 programming commissioner. You could now make ‘programmes’ yourself. Like Adam does. As for C5, it’s slightly improved. Even if some otherwise pretty decent documentaries, on past British weather events and overviews of past years, are slightly spoilt by the presence of several Murdoch hack talking heads, asserting ‘their spin’, on events they pretend they remembered.
@PelinalDidNothingWrong
@PelinalDidNothingWrong 4 ай бұрын
Dear Channel 4. More Don't Hug Me I'm Scared please
@AdamMartyn
@AdamMartyn 4 ай бұрын
Here here to that 👀
@JoshPinder92
@JoshPinder92 4 ай бұрын
I remember channel 5 launch , Spice Girls launching it and i was 5 that year too so much nosfalgia 💕
@MrBreadman1966
@MrBreadman1966 4 ай бұрын
The current Ch5 logo always reminds me of toasted bread popping in and out of a toaster...
@robertbuckley2429
@robertbuckley2429 4 ай бұрын
I like Channel 4's original logo as well as Channel 5's colours from their original logo and Channel 5's current logo as well.
@simonsaysrewind
@simonsaysrewind 4 ай бұрын
Hair raising video 😅
@F2SOnYouTube
@F2SOnYouTube 4 ай бұрын
TV LOVES blocks and shapes alot.
@kentarom2de945
@kentarom2de945 4 ай бұрын
Hey Adam, I've wonder if you ever like to talk about the eras of idents like Channel 4's Circles era or ITV's Hearts era?
@harryelliott4310
@harryelliott4310 4 ай бұрын
Channel 5
@rogerdarthwell5393
@rogerdarthwell5393 4 ай бұрын
Nice video Adam!
@KyleJBAwesomeness-OfficialChan
@KyleJBAwesomeness-OfficialChan Ай бұрын
To be honest I don't think Viacom/Paramount-owned Channel 5 is being a Channel 4 carbon copy that much. I mean both channels have their numeral logos made out of different shape blocks.
@ae52569
@ae52569 4 ай бұрын
hi Adam, I’m just wondering if you could do a logo or ident history on some Australian channels such as abc, channel 9, etc. please?
@BugsBunnyandArchieMcIvor2024
@BugsBunnyandArchieMcIvor2024 4 ай бұрын
I think Channel 4 & Channel 5 are rivals I’m not sure
@MediaCentUK
@MediaCentUK 4 ай бұрын
They are rivals mate
@BugsBunnyandArchieMcIvor2024
@BugsBunnyandArchieMcIvor2024 4 ай бұрын
@@MediaCentUK A bit like BBC and ITV
@David-bi6lf
@David-bi6lf 4 ай бұрын
​@@BugsBunnyandArchieMcIvor2024not really because viewing figures for the BBC are less important as it's publicly funded. BBC makes programs that ITV would not.
@du188
@du188 4 ай бұрын
Brilliant vid agreed with all your thoughts on the idents🔥 Hairdo giving me Josh barker vibes (no disrespect) 😂
@theratedrshimmer
@theratedrshimmer 4 ай бұрын
The orange (FIVE) logo looks more like a bookstore or grocery store logo xD Something in that shade of orange feels odd
@MrSmith1984
@MrSmith1984 4 ай бұрын
The FIVE Logo only lasted 3 years because RTL sold the channel to Richard Desmond in 2011, who for some reason wanted to have his own rebrand of the Channel...
@Crispz
@Crispz 4 ай бұрын
what a barnet
@theuktvgroupplc.8829
@theuktvgroupplc.8829 27 күн бұрын
11:28 Why do I feel like she’s gonna turn round and be pennywise, I always feel like that with this ident
@Ar15_old
@Ar15_old 4 ай бұрын
It just me or channel 5 logo from 2011 remind me of the filipino channel tv5 it just looked similar that i cant point is it five or tv5
@hakimi_AH
@hakimi_AH 3 ай бұрын
its just the circle and color aspects
@SylvesterAshcroft88
@SylvesterAshcroft88 4 ай бұрын
At least we haven't got channel 6, but it's basically Sky! xD
@Connie_TinuityError
@Connie_TinuityError 4 ай бұрын
Channel 6 varies massively depending on platform, and your location (on Freesat). On Freeview, it's ITV2. On Freesat, it isn't anything, except in Wales where it's Channel 4 and Scotland where it's BBC Scotland. On Sky, it's Sky Showcase. On Virgin Media, it's E4.
@iainhewitt
@iainhewitt 4 ай бұрын
I was doing media studies (yurrrgh) back when C5 was about to come into existence. I storyboarded a whole trailer for a fictional noir detective show - it was black with voice-over and strong heartbeat sounds (the teacher *hated* it) and finished with a brief shot of the cast before a five logo I came up with (partially by accident) by wrapping the word 'five' around a shape in one of the Microsoft office suite of programmes. It looked like a whirlwind with a gaping maw and face silhouette on the right side. I called it (as a young teen would), 'leaping wind'. (My teacher hated that too. Come to think of it, I don't think he liked me very much either...) I still think it was a really strong logo and would have given an incredible and unique brand identity to my version of C5.
@villagernumber77
@villagernumber77 4 ай бұрын
Well at least I can say that Channel 5 is the Viacom version of Channel 4. Because channel 5 is owned by viacom
@oliviajayward
@oliviajayward 3 ай бұрын
wait was channel 4 and E4 same thing???
@Jetixiscool
@Jetixiscool 4 ай бұрын
Hi Adam Martin
@benjamingibson7999
@benjamingibson7999 4 ай бұрын
Would you be able to make a similar series on news logos when you have time please.
@helloed294
@helloed294 4 ай бұрын
I actually think their new logo is their best one. Hated the 2011 logo, thought it looked like something youd see on an exam paper. Loved the video.
@davepoole9520
@davepoole9520 4 ай бұрын
I think Channel 4 News used the thankfully unused new 4 logo in their opening for a while.
@Stephen-Fox
@Stephen-Fox 3 ай бұрын
I think channel 4's logo suffers from the 'debranding' trend in a really weird way - Instead of being flatter (though it is on the idents) the debranding has more applied to the loss of the different colours in the bars which I think hurts it. It's not _bad_ but... Just bring back the colours in the logo. Or at least the idents. (I also prefer the spacing of the original to the current version) The thing I like about the original Channel 5 logo is that it's a bit rough around the edges rather than being plane. And despite that being the only thing I like about it, the logo that followed it is a strict downgrade for me. Not only does 5 represent channel 5 better than five, but the loss of the wobbly edges removes all distinctness from it. The return to the number 5 in a circle is where Chaennel 5's logo is best, for me, and I like the sort of circle in the base of the five connected to the outer circle by a line, organically bisecting the 5 via it's whitespace almost like the bulb of a thermometer. I think, for me, my ideal Channel 5 ident (if not logo) is the one prior to the one they've currently got with the 5 coloured stripes they launched the channel with (likely using the blue, orange, pink, yellow and green stripes instead of the red circle, which I associate with early channel 5 more than the actual logo) - I dunno, maybe it's because I was watching the launch of Channel 5 that really emphasized those five coloured stripes live during my childhood.
@neilisgreatagain
@neilisgreatagain 4 ай бұрын
With ch4 I wast just the logo but the music for the ident made it
@plan7a
@plan7a 4 ай бұрын
I feel like I'm going to change the way some people might think of these logos from now on. So, here goes. In the 'modern' slimmer version of the Channel 4 logo it is possible to see a '4' from the 'Film 4' logo. (Look at the centre of the logo and you can see it). In some of the 'Channel 5' logos (where they are numbered) you can see it is actually composed of a 'C' and a '5'. (This may only be possible when turned at certain angles only? But you get the idea). The bottom part of the '5' seems to be extensively shaped in this fashion; from the very beginning, right up to the present day. (Or is it just me who gets this/these like this?).
@dannystavs2003
@dannystavs2003 4 ай бұрын
Good vid, now do one on Sky.
@guksack
@guksack 4 ай бұрын
I'm not a fan of Channel 5's current logo, but I actually think their presentation/graphics are the best looking since the era shown at 10:54 (An era where their programming showed a lot of potential and their ratings were strong). Most of their presentation has come across very cheap (And indeed usually depends on what company owns them that week). And yeah I prefer a numeral too, but at least when it was "five" it removed it further from "Channel 4".
@GerryMcGarry
@GerryMcGarry 4 ай бұрын
Original Channel 4 logo is the best one from the UK. You should have a look at other logos from around the world to find the best one.
@Connie_TinuityError
@Connie_TinuityError 4 ай бұрын
The idents that Channel 5 used from 2016 to 2020 didn't even feature their logo at all! It was all so confusing.
@edbateyjr.517
@edbateyjr.517 3 ай бұрын
Channel 4 was ITV's baby in the beginning.
@sixeleven637
@sixeleven637 4 ай бұрын
channel 5= channel 4 crazy
@ebanksstudios
@ebanksstudios 2 ай бұрын
Channel 4 logo is an example of "if i ain't broke don't fix it"
@local59_Studios
@local59_Studios 4 ай бұрын
amazing video!
@AdamMartyn
@AdamMartyn 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@local59_Studios
@local59_Studios 4 ай бұрын
No problem!​@@AdamMartyn
@JacobsT75
@JacobsT75 Ай бұрын
Adam, Why don't you do Hallam FM next? They changed their name to Hits Radio on April 17th
@angpang1637
@angpang1637 4 ай бұрын
i swear channel 0 is being ripped off the most
@syed_mamoon99
@syed_mamoon99 4 ай бұрын
You'd be surprised to know that the late Italian media tycoon Silvio Berlesconi nearly won the auction for Channel 5 frequency, so it would've been like Canal 5 from Italy.
@scottpeacock5492
@scottpeacock5492 4 ай бұрын
It a bit too far for terrestrial Channel 5 frequency to travel from Italy unless the tv broadcaster use Satellites links to connect to the transmitters in the UK and who would want to watch a Channel 5 in Italian.
@katieusbrownius
@katieusbrownius 4 ай бұрын
Aw the Ch4 connector sequences in the 2000’s where it was buildings or other things making up the shape of the logo… the nostalgia I’ve just felt omg
@retrorambles517
@retrorambles517 4 ай бұрын
Why did the channel 4 logo have 5 colours?
@Iwtele
@Iwtele 4 ай бұрын
Channel 5 become channel 4 REALLLL 1997 is 1982 reallll That is channel 5 reaction in me lol
@Mj012_
@Mj012_ 4 ай бұрын
13:54 it's more like the TV5 logo in the Philippines
@j0hnf_uk
@j0hnf_uk 4 ай бұрын
I never really thought much of channel 5, even when it started in 1996. It was a bit of a disappointment after all the hype created around its launch. There definitely wasn't the same buzz of excitement that there was with Channel 4, that's for sure! As for logos, I don't think they ever really got it right, to be honest. They couldn't compete with Channel 4's iconic logo. BBC2 did well with their 2's in the 90's, but the channel 4 one won out.
@techmailbox2400
@techmailbox2400 4 ай бұрын
TVs should be plugged into the mains socket, Adam's fingers, not so much😂
@tobyslifetime976
@tobyslifetime976 4 ай бұрын
The hair though 😂😂😂😂😂
@Sheffield_Steve
@Sheffield_Steve 4 ай бұрын
I think the original 1997 Channel 5 idents were way cooler, even if the programmes weren't great! Especially the one you showed from 1997, led into the 1st 5 News intro & music.
@scottishdavros
@scottishdavros 4 ай бұрын
they kind of always have.
@Mchannnel
@Mchannnel 4 ай бұрын
I personally think channel 5’s logos (except the current version) feels like an cable/satellite channel instead of free-to-air
@Zyugo
@Zyugo 4 ай бұрын
Oddly, the 2011 Channel 5 logo was not a rip-off of a logo of a Philippine TV station TV5, specifically their logo that debuted a year prior. And if it was...
@f_worst_nightmare4499
@f_worst_nightmare4499 4 ай бұрын
Channel 4: Malcolm In The Middle, The Simpsons, The Inbetweeners, The IT Crowd Channel 5: AiR fRyErS vS mIcRoWaVeS
@sophie_drachen
@sophie_drachen 4 ай бұрын
I think you've also forgotten Derry Girls for Channel 4 too! Channel 5 on the other hand, I can't seem to name a show that they ended up making. Apart from those reality shows like "Bargain Loving Brits in the Sun" or "Nightmare Tenants, Rogue Landlords".
@rgp1989
@rgp1989 4 ай бұрын
I personally have never liked any of the channel 5 ones. They all feel cheap and like somebody just asked their teenage son to design them. The new one at least suffers slightly less from this and feels like an actual design, but you're right about the idents doing absolutely nothing for it
@harryelliott4310
@harryelliott4310 4 ай бұрын
Channel 4
@kyle9023
@kyle9023 4 ай бұрын
wait i thought they were all owned by the same company like itv 1 and 2
@MariaEduarda-nv5fl
@MariaEduarda-nv5fl 4 ай бұрын
I'm not from the UK, Channel 4 and Channel 5 aren't sibling channels? I've always thought they were
@fusionsub
@fusionsub 4 ай бұрын
With the channel 4 logo, it feels like they took 26 years to change their mind
@karlt134
@karlt134 4 ай бұрын
New video!
@AdamMartyn
@AdamMartyn 4 ай бұрын
🥳
@gregevigan
@gregevigan 4 ай бұрын
no
@Ashley._17.
@Ashley._17. 4 ай бұрын
Wait... i thought they were owned by the same company
@1Soniccool
@1Soniccool 4 ай бұрын
Channel 4 is not owned by Paramount Global the parent company of Channel 5. Channel 4 is independent as Channel 4 Corp.
@TheFort87
@TheFort87 4 ай бұрын
The 2011 logo looked way too much like the Kanal 5 one, plus the ones previous looked of their period or even further ahead, whereas that one looked dated to begin with.
@thesailormercury2
@thesailormercury2 4 ай бұрын
it is same as cbs eye being ripoff by. other channels .
@yvonnerogers6429
@yvonnerogers6429 4 ай бұрын
👍🏻
@stevecoles458
@stevecoles458 4 ай бұрын
More like the other way round!
@centminst1984
@centminst1984 4 ай бұрын
Channel (4+1=5)
@Nostalgic80s-nd3qb
@Nostalgic80s-nd3qb 4 ай бұрын
First we had ITV ripoff the BBC and now Channel 5 Is doing the same to Channel 4. If that doesn’t show how unoriginal and lazy channels can be, then I don’t know what does.
@tobyfroom
@tobyfroom 4 ай бұрын
More like ripping off ITV 😂😂😂😂
@pjuk
@pjuk 4 ай бұрын
5 may be copying 4..... but 4 logo has 5 colours...
@AdamMartyn
@AdamMartyn 4 ай бұрын
🤯
@KAdontblockmyv2012
@KAdontblockmyv2012 3 ай бұрын
False
@JoeyTheBeastHD
@JoeyTheBeastHD 4 ай бұрын
I mean Channel 4 and Channel 5 are owned by the same company so technically they could go under the same banner.
@itsrickyschannel.
@itsrickyschannel. 4 ай бұрын
Same company? Channel 4 is a non-profit public entity, wholly owned by its namer parent company, Channel Four Television. Channel 5 is a private channel owned by Paramount, with MTV UK acting as a sister channel.
@lance941
@lance941 4 ай бұрын
Bruh where tf did you get that information from
@JoeyTheBeastHD
@JoeyTheBeastHD 4 ай бұрын
@@lance941 Remember when Channel 4 went down for months in 2020 - Channel 5 did the same thing as they are in the same building
@itsrickyschannel.
@itsrickyschannel. 4 ай бұрын
@@JoeyTheBeastHD Are you talking about the News? ITN does power the news on ITV, Channel 4 and Channel 5, with studios set in the ITN buildings. Otherwise Channel 4 and 5 are still thier own seperate entities. Also I dont remember the channels going down about that time.
@SofiaPreCure
@SofiaPreCure 4 ай бұрын
Hmm I don't think Channel 5 is a ripoff 🤔🤨
@PixelNeck
@PixelNeck 4 ай бұрын
Guys I'm early!
@Salfordian
@Salfordian 4 ай бұрын
Pointless video
@flashback1123
@flashback1123 4 ай бұрын
Who still watches TV? It's all forced 'woke' crap 😂
@calum5975
@calum5975 4 ай бұрын
ok gramps
@hakimi_AH
@hakimi_AH 4 ай бұрын
its not all woke, theres plenty of right wing echo chambers
@tgheretford
@tgheretford 4 ай бұрын
You're not going to like what's on the streaming services then.
@princewellidk
@princewellidk 4 ай бұрын
Shut Up Biden Supporter ​@@hakimi_AH
@princewellidk
@princewellidk 4 ай бұрын
​@@calum5975 Ok Zoomer
@PhilipMurphyExtra
@PhilipMurphyExtra 4 ай бұрын
Good video, now you could do how streaming killed off Sky's edge on the market
@SeamlessShelf35
@SeamlessShelf35 4 ай бұрын
I agree with you, Adam. The current Channel 5 logo and idents are really bland. I never really liked them. Hope you check out more channel logos.
@AdamMartyn
@AdamMartyn 4 ай бұрын
I think more are definitely on the cards!
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