Haha! Another loaded statement. In the Biblical sense, yes, and as far as I can tell, they have been going for 2000 years.

The scriptures contains some 2,500 prophesies of which some 2,000 have come about exactly as foretold. Some 400 of these were about Jesus the Christ. Going by the number of fulfilled prophesies, we are about 80% there.

Yes we are but do you believe we are living in the millennial reign ive heard both sides now im not sure 🤔

We are certainly closer that ever before. Signs in the sky among other places.

Literal does not mean “what the author was trying to convey”, literal means the text means what it says and there is no need for interpretation.

Say that again thank you leaky creationist that describes me at this juncture 😂😂

@@ThembaMaselane, I'm not alone! 😄To my mind, the theological truths come first, but I find the Genesis genealogies convincing, even if they are not complete. I cannot buy into evolution from a scientific, mathematical perspective, let alone a theological one, but then the six days, if they are more than poetry, mean that time would have been entirely different from today until day four. I do think the mystery is something to be celebrated rather than it dividing us.

@@wardrobegirl67 But Jesus told us to hate our parents. We understand that he was demanding that we be loyal to him first and then love our parents. That is why we look for the meaning the author wanted to convey, especially as language and culture have changed. Go well 😊

@@redemption-leadership hate means not preferred and He was speaking of loving Him before anyone else, this has nothing to do with a literal Genesis.

I really love that portion as well. Glad it made an impact for you. Praise God!

I'm sorry, but Dr Heiser passed away.

@@kobblekraftka0kao29 Yes, I meant his teachings on video.😊

For answers on this check out-kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aNScqch2rby0Zn0.htmlsi=Njug6kA5ZO6TD6F-

Jesus was definitely talking about the Temple the destruction of the Temple in AD 70 period✝️🙏💯🤗

I am a fan of Heiser but He missed this one. Genesis 1 is very clear. Heiser thinks the human author chose the words, I think Yahuah chose the words. I believe Yahuah gave the Torah to Moses word for word on the mountain.

@@wardrobegirl67 You believe it does not translate to missed it,,

@@bobgriffith1810 I don’t understand your comment.

@@wardrobegirl67just because you think & you believe doesn’t make Heiser wrong. You could be wrong

That sure does bless my heart. Thanks for the inspiration and connection with the content ✌️🔔❤️

@@ringthembells143 Thank YOU, brother! Praise God.

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The question you could ask back is, "Does the Bible teach it, or does God's word use the language of the day to communicate God's truth?" It's not strict dichotomy, but scripture is full of examples where God accommodates, condescends, and makes provisions for a people who lack understanding. We are *really* good at being chronological snobs. We should check ourselves for our own lack of understanding, and recognize that God's word is still an accommodation for a humanity that needs his truth.

People over complicate the Bible. It really is meant to be read and studied, but can be understood by the most common of people. We should trust the word when it says something directly like the nature of the cosmos and our place within it. Earth is flat. People have this idea that modern science is infallible when literally every scientific paradigm every 100 years completely changes. It literally never stays the same. The bible however has stayed true and will until the end of time.

@@Needassistance Another flat earther in the wild! If you don't mind me asking, if earth is flat, how do you explain lunar phases as viewed from the north vs south hemispheres (since the moon appears to rotate to eventually be "upside down" relatively as you move from south to north over the equator)?

Just send them this video ✌️🔔

@@Needassistance the problem is that I know the earth is not flat, if the Bible claims it is, then it's making a false claim. Do you believe there is an ocean above us as well? And that there is a transparent dome covering us? Do you believe people could build a tower to heaven and break a hole in the dome?

The state of the world (chaos waters) before creation ❤️✔️🔔

There sure is. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f7WDo5d7vdXdh4U.htmlsi=-h8oBKWMek8WvEYw And I am just putting the finishing touches on episode 3. The finale will be entitled “creation culture wars and the biblical Adam”

Do the homework….the opinions vary depending on who you’re looking into. Dr. Heiser has quite the extensive amount of lectures and his own Naked Bible Podcast. By the way, he passed from pancreatic cancer last year. (I only mention as any clarity regarding his thoughts on these matters is only available through what has already been done) shalom

@@michaelbrickley2443 I have read the Unseen Realm, and I have listened to many of his videos. So I am familiar with him and have profited from his ministry. I was also saddened to hear of his passing. However this does not mean that he is immune from criticism, and if I had an opportunity to talk to him one-on-one, I would offer this same critique (I would not confront him in public, I think that is rude). I think he has done this in other instances as well. It is hard for us to stay in that ancient Jewish mindset, no matter how we try, and sometimes, he brought 21st-century thoughts into his teaching. FYI, I happen to agree with the point he made in this video. and may use his argument myself in the future. However, it is really a modern apologetic rather than an explanation of how an ancient Israelite would have understood the creation stories. If Dr. Heiser was still with us, I think he might acknowledge that the ancient Israelites took the creation accounts literally. I say this because he seems to me to have been a very humble man in spite of his great learning.

Here's the rub, what most of us run into is called the observer problem. When God brought form to the void and unformed, what do you think it would look like if there's only one dimension of time? There would be an impression of age. This impression of age is the only way that our realm can contain the image of higher order creation. If the Divine Council was present at the creation of our realm, then doesn't it make sense that they, too, have their own origin story and that many, if not all of what we consider to be fundamental is actually derivative functions of higher order creation? The supposed age of our reality is really just the only way these higher realms can inform ours. This is the only way that I can reconcile our observations with scripture. It not only works for creation but it creates a new way of thinking about dark matter and the weird quantum function that plants use during photosynthesis.

Best reply in here.

Six days God created everything and on the seventh day He rested

William Lane Craig just wrote a sizable book on the historical Adam, and much of the material in the book is available here on KZfaq in interviews…long story short, he puts the historical Adam around 750,000 years ago.

@@delbert372 Yes, which avoids some of the worse evils, like about God "being cruel to child Adam" but on the other hand leaves no historic connexion between the Genesis 3 event and Moses writing the account.

I've grown up seeing those steps.

@@abaker4692 How cool is that.

Jesus teachings and examples ? They often contradict. So, all Christians cherry pick. See: Concise Overview of the Critique of Jesus of Nazareth

@@steveclark8538 They do appear to contradict by design if you don’t have the Spirit of God to lead and guide you into all truth. John 16:13

The discovery of the cosmic background microwave radiation and the formulation of the big bang theory were done by Christians. They were so excited to have found compelling evidence of the beginning of time because the leading cosmology of the day was an infinite steady state universe. Atheistic scientists were highly threatened by the big bang theory because it undermined their belief that there was no start to time and therefore no time-starter.

All of these men have chosen to believe modern scientists over Yahuah. Their contorting and confounding of language and intent is an embarrassment to Christians.

My question is do you know what it says? Do you read Hebrew, Greek, etc? Have you studied the ancient cultures? Do you know how each language evolved over hundreds of years so that you understand precisely the original languages in all their nuances and literary devices? My guess is not. Nor have I. It would be nice if it were so simple. The basics are. God made the world and the universe and He was delighted with it in the beginning. And He loves us humans...alot.

@@mare_sheep9724 we have lexicons and Hebrew dictionary helps, Greek is irrelevant in this case. Michael Heiser read and understood several ancient languages and he came to the same conclusion as I do. The only difference is I believe what Genesis says and Heiser uses the “Genesis is not a science book” reasoning.

There was no ancient Hebrew word for universe. The concept of a universe did not exist until Copernicus.

@@wardrobegirl67 Yes you are correct. My word choice is an example of current culture. But my guess is you knew what I was talking about. And regarding Heiser there is so much to respect. And that you believe in a literal 24 hour day is of course valid. As is his perspective. None of us where there nor did we live in the varied cultures. But my guess is we can agree that God The Almighty and His precious Son created the world and all that he mentioned, He was happy with His handiwork and He loves mankind and has sought our restoration.(salvation) Best to you.

For God a billion years is like half a second

He’s comparing it to the language used in genesis, he’s not saying that’s the exact wording. Tim is an expert Hebrew Bible scholar and can literally read straight from the Hebrew and translate🎯✌️🔔

Yes it does allow but there will always be people who are antithetical as you say. It is a position of those who oppose God no matter what is written in the Bible. Do we not look for the truth in His wonderful works and words? Some do not.

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@@ringthembells143 Well then not again.

Sorry you don’t like that. It’s really only in the transitions and I love it. Hope you can find a way to still love us✌️❤️🔔

He doesn’t address the specific point but he goes over the concept specifically inside the video. I don’t believe there’s any Other way than to let the text itself instruct us on what to think it is. The snake in the garden has much more allegorical features literarily than the donkey does in numbers. The donkey talking is a one off miracle of God and not a consistent marked phenomenon. So Heiser’s points still stands, Israelites would not have viewed a snake that could talk as a literal possibility for the narrative. Hope that makes sense. Please watch the video and let me know what you think✌️❤️🔔

@@ringthembells143 I've yet to meet a Jewish person who doesn't think it is a literal snake. I guess we just have to chalk it up to more opinion than concrete objective fact.

@@BrotherBearBarras I think either side looking at the other side saying they have the concrete side of this concept is the first sign of trouble✌️🔔❤️

⁠There's clips of Heiser showing that serpent could also be translated as "Shining one". This is how the ISV translates Genesis 3.

@@Strongtower "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him." - Revelation 12:9

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Missing the point.

Perhaps the difference is in how you understand how He wrote, the method(s) and people He used to write down His Words.

@@mare_sheep9724 whether Yahuah wrote with his finger, Ten Commandments, or “downloaded” the information directly to men, or guided men to write His words, it doesn’t matter. The point is the Bible is the inerrant word of Yahuah. All scripture is Yahuah breathed and suitable for doctrine, correction, etc. We either believe it or we don’t.

@@ThembaMaselane Wright is missing the point. All scripture is Yahuah breathed. Believe it or disbelieve it but don’t try to change it or say it doesn’t mean what it clearly says.

God used Human authors. Divine tablets did not fall from the sky. God didn’t zap humans and All of the sudden they started writing. God spoke in a specific time and place and used a specific people group to declare truth. He did not try to clean up everything they didn’t know. He spoke truth through what they did know. God’s supreme wisdom is not limited to the Bible or to the people who wrote it✔️❤️🔔

No offense, but I don’t have to prove anything to you. If God is real that is His job. If you openly pray and ask God to show Himself to You, buckle up HE WILL

Or it’s for the kindhearted and hopeful of which you are neither. I’m sorry for whatever happened or whoever hurt you. Jesus is King of this world and actually cares about making things right with you if you are interested.

well nearer 13.7 but yeah the NT is obviously fan-fiction. Still it was an interesting listen of apologists trying their best to polish a turd. The mental gymnastics were a sight and sound to behold - they should apply to the IOC for a new category!

We are all weak relatively and sanity can be altered with illness, chemicals, and experiences among other things. Frankly we can't even get along with out the local sanitation guy showing up. Cockiness is short sighted.

Dr. Heiser is incredibly articulate with a great body of knowledge about these cultures of ancient times and languages. Intelligence is not the factor. It is the body of knowledge they had at the time. They did not understand electricity, chemistry, cell phones, or biology, how plants grow, the functions within a cell or a myriad of other things. They did not have airplanes. It doesn't make them less intelligent. They did understand that there were laws, boundaries and parameters at work in the universe and on the earth. This is their way of articulating these ideas about God with their current understanding. It doesn't make the scriptures less true or authentic. There are probably ideas communicated with the scriptures that we in our age are totally missing because we are not reading it in the original languages and we have a limited understanding of the cultures they were written in.

@@mare_sheep9724 that is my point exactly. One doesn’t need to know chemistry to commune with god or come up with the creation story. It’s a truth. Whoever first articulated that story was just some guy interpreting data from his culture. He had direct communication with the divine and the creation story shows that. The guy who first articulated that was a brilliant mind tuned into god. An example would be someone like Galileo. He was a lot smarter than 99% of todays minds 😂 just because our culture is advanced doesn’t mean you can compare individuals the same. And when you do the story gets lost in translation.

@@tookie36 I think I see what you are saying. My disagreement would be with your statement about the guy and data. I would say that those inspired by God would present their information/story thru their language and cultural understandings. We live in such a different culture and understanding of history and language than most of the history of mankind. So our understanding of 'literal', 'factual', 'true' is within our own present understanding. And to your point about not 'needing' to know chemistry, etc. I would say that ones body of knowledge greatly affects how one presents ideas. I think the thing many people fear is that by acknowledging that how we modern people read, understand and articulate the ancient text must only be a specific way or we are some how discrediting God, not believing His Word, or some how blaspheming. But the scriptures are full of many ways that truths about God and His plans are conveyed, parables, plays, art, design, story and song as well as literary devices and prophecy are all used. We try too hard to put God in a box that fits our limitations. But He is way bigger than us. Thanks for chatting with me. There is a lot to think about. I am just very glad the God loves us!

@@mare_sheep9724 I agree:) it just seems like when reading scripture many go into it thinking “I know more than this author bc I live in 2024” and that’s a huge mistake. The creation accounts are remarkable and speak so loudly to our current direct reality and it just seems like people read it as a thing that may have happened between 6000 and 14 billion years ago lol

@@tookie36 Yes, I think what is most obvious is that it did happen. We will find out when we can ask the question directly.

The earth isn't really a sphere, it's more of a rough ellipsoid. Also it's not spinning so much as wobbling and rotating.

@@JosiahTheSiah The Bible says the earth is flat and that the firmament holds back the water from above. This is the literal truth. If you are a Christian, you must believe this. God is not the author of confusion.

Have you ever been in am airplane that goes high enough to see the curve? I have. It's curved.

@@abaker4692 this is a lie. Nothing disproves globe theory more than air travel. The truth will set you free. You have been deceived.

@@markb3786 Well, if you're going for literalism, Bible says the earth is a circle, but it also says that the earth has four corners. Our God is a good father who accommodates his wisdom to his children's understanding. He uses cultural idioms, collective human imaginations, and poetic imagery to convey his truth. And he is the one who gets to decide how to do that-he is the wise one. And the truth he's communicating through the human transmission of scripture isn't that the earth is flat-that was already simply assumed by some of the Biblical authors. Just like they assumed your emotions came from your gut, and that the moon was itself a "light," rather than a body that only reflects the sun's light.

Whatever are you talking about?

​@@abaker4692 If you are familiar with Arjuna, the consequences of war is corruption of the spirit. He then returns as Job wondering why he suffers for no apparent reason. The sacrifice is when Christ is made to be sin on the day of the wrath of the sacrificial Lamb. Yahweh judged the Gods themselves. Corruption of the spirit is a part of the fabric of the universe. They, Yahweh and Christ, did this; in hope that creation itself would be set free from slavery to corruption and share in the glorious freedom of the children of God. (Rom 8:20-21 NABO) The reason he needs the way of the Lord in the desert is because the day of vengeance AS judgment sets up the abomination of desolation in himself, as the Temple without one stone left standing upon another. He then returns, within the same generation, as the scapegoat with the burden for sin placed on him. The way of the Lord in the desert needs to be put into context with the previous passage: Sacrifice - Indeed, she has received from the hand of the LORD double for all her sins. Resurrection - Make straight in the wasteland a highway for our God! (Isa 40:2-3 NABO) Just as it is appointed that human beings die - be judged - appear a second time, so also Christ …will return Heb 9:27-28 …as the (Red) Dragon (Demon Sin) stood before the woman about to give birth, to devour her child when she gave birth. (Rev 12:4 NABO) The horse of many colors or, aspects or, perspectives. Verses can be added according to context. White - The wine press I have trodden alone (Isa 63:3 NABO) Red - Do not think that I have come to bring peace (Mat 10:34 NABO) Black - Scales of judgment Pale Green - Christ rising up from the Abyss - all of Hades is at his heel - to 'strike at' the heel or head is to protect, guard, or watch over Do not say… 'Who will go down into the Abyss (nether world)?' (…to bring Christ up from the dead) (Rom 10:7 NABO) We saw his star (of Bethlehem) at its rising (Mat 2:2 NABO) Up from the Abyss (Rev 17:8 NABO) The star was called "Wormwood” (Rev 8:11 NABO) It was given the key for the passage to the Abyss. (Rev 9:1 NABO) I hold the keys to death and the netherworld (Abyss). (Rev 1:18 NABO) Its rider was named Death, and Hades accompanied him. (Rev 6:8 NABO) As the Lawless One, with all the power, signs, and wonders at the disposal of falsehood, and seeming to be a part of the workings of Satan, 2Thess 2:9-11, he leads them astray, as if with a bridle in the jaw of the people, on the day of the great slaughter, Is 30:25-28, having been given the power and rule, along with great authority of The Dragon as the First Beast/ Red Dragon, Rv 13:2, with seven heads and ten horns, Rv 12:3. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord (Jesus) will (Transfigure) with the spirit of the sword of his mouth and render speechless by his glorious radiance (2Th 2:8). When he rises against the prince of princes, he shall be broken without a hand being raised. (Dan 8:25 NABO) whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: (2Th 2:8 KJV) his face shone like the sun and his clothes became white as light. (Mat 17:2 NABO) If you do well, you can hold up your head; but if not, sin is a demon lurking at the door: his urge is toward you, yet you can be his master (Gen 4:7 NABO) Who, robed in splendor, judges nations, crushes heads across the wide earth, Who drinks from the brook by the wayside and thus holds high the head. (Psa 110:6-7 NABO)

What a comprehensive and thoughtful contextual review of the entire scope of the series. Thanks for watching🌎✌️❤️

Not so. You are limiting God. He understood that mankind would grow in his knowledge of the world, that cultures would evolve, people would be creative, that literary devices would evolve. As the speakers say the scriptures were written with the understanding of the body of knowledge of the culture at the time of writing. Consider this: If you are a believer in Jesus as the Messiah do you have both of your arms, both of your eyes. My guess is you have sinned with an eye or an arm perhaps both. Because if you are being literal did you cut it off or cast it out? We have no example of the disciples doing that either. No, because Jesus is giving us an idea, an Idea of separating ourselves from things in our lives that could cause us to sin. Perhaps Jesus was conveying how serious sin is? So to follow Did Yahuah lie? No. He communicated thru humans who were writing to people in their own time and culture and language. He was communicating that He created all things with the understanding that people in various times in history would have access to different bodies of knowledge and understanding. But ultimately He is the All Mighty God and don't you forget it. And He delighted in his creation and He loves us.

@@mare_sheep9724 to try and compare the creation account to Yahusha saying to pluck out your eye is juvenile. No scholar believes Genesis 1 is a parable or allegory and no scholar believes we should pluck out our eyes for sinning. Discernment is necessary. The creation account was understood and believed by ancient hebrews. It was history and treated as such until centuries after Yahusha was here. This boils down to Christians choosing the scientific paradigm of modern scholars over the word of Yahuah. Spin it any way you choose but that is the crux of the matter.

Out of curiosity how do you understand Psalm 82?

@@wardrobegirl67 You are proving my point. You pick and choose how and when to discern the scriptures, when to be literal or legalistic when to use discernment, parables, symbolism or other linguistic tools to understand how Yahusha would convey ideas . A thought about the ancient peoples and the early understanding of creation and the earth...there were no Hebrews until God selected Abraham to be the father of His people. There was apparently writing/language before the flood and after. Cultures evolved and spread before the Jewish people ever were set apart. There is a historical record that exists of these cultures. About the scientific paradigm perhaps it would help if you defined that phrase. We choose the use of science all the time. You are using a computer which utilizes many aspects of science, perhaps you wear glasses, use a cell phone, drive a car, have a refrigerator. Science is not a dirty word. But what we both may oppose is when people use scientific information and or theory to dictate theology or bias against it. For better or worse individuals with all their best attributes and moral failings (like us) are in various scientific fields. Science is a method of understanding physical aspects of creation but can not define the Almighty Creator or things of the spiritual world. Glory to His Name. You might enjoy refining your position on a flat earth at this video. "Irrefutable Proof the Bible Doesn’t Teach Flat Earth"

Amen!

When you force the Bible to be making literal claims about the processes of creation you are forcing the Bible to be a science book. The Bible is not a science book. That was not its intention to give you these processes in a literal fashion. That’s the point of it and it is not disingenuous✌️❤️🔔

@@ringthembells143 Thanks for replying. Respectfully, what I'm saying is that believing in 6 literal 24hr days (as the scripture says) does not mean I'm forcing the scriptures into a scientific treatise. It means I believe it's an historical account, not a scienctific account. Compare GEN 1:3-31 with Exodus 20 where God Himself reiterates that Creation Week was Six Literal 24hr Days: 9Six days you shall labor and do all your work, ... 11For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth and the sea and all that is in them," Clearly, I don't invoke science into an historical account (though those of us who believe in Six Literal Days are sometimes unfairly accused of forcing Gen 1 into a science mold when it's only historical. Thanks for listening.

Creationists aren't monolithic. Some old-earthers blend "literal" readings the old testament with modern astrophysics. Don't assume you have the market cornered on literal readings 😉

@@JosiahTheSiah "have the market cornered"? Please elaborate.

@@Bildad1976 it's a financial idiom that means to have control or possession of all or most of a commodity. The term is figurative here. I could restate as, "don't assume you speak for all those who interpret Genesis 1 literally."