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Is Cruise Control Smart In Hyundai IONIQ Electric?

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Zero Tailpipe

Zero Tailpipe

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@thrustsst
@thrustsst 5 жыл бұрын
Your video is definitely one of the most informative of all times about Ioniq smart cruise control. Since I bought my Ioniq in May this year, I have intentionally explored the limits of the system and have reached exactly the same limitations as you. As far as I understand Ioniq's smart cruise control, the system responds only to motion in the same direction as you drive, and does not respond to stationary objects or oncoming cars. It is very important to be aware of this in cases where you approach cars in a stationary queue. The rear car in the queue will be stationary. There is a very good example of this in your video. Thanks again for this video !
@zso1t
@zso1t 5 жыл бұрын
I somehow wish you did other brands' smart/adaptive cruise control as well. Your accurate, covering-all-possible-aspects kind of attitude in your videos, your voice and manner of talking, all add up to be quite a preferrable tester for such technology. IMHO. Great work and thanks for the effort you put into this video! cheers
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Difficult to get unaccompanied EV test drives sadly. I will try renting some :)
@ronaldmail00
@ronaldmail00 5 жыл бұрын
Great thorough video. Hit the pros and cons of this system spot on. Was impressed you went through the trouble of even posting the instruction manual for us. Bravo. Folks I've seen demonstrate their automatic cruise control are never so thorough that I still need to go test it myself. But I'm so confident in your description of it I can think of what else I could test myself, Ty. I was personally comparing this car with a leaf. But this car is not sold Countrywide in a very limited number in the US. I had to travel far in my time was limited, so I missed out on testing the SCC you compare it to the pro pilot of the leaf. But you covered all my questions all wrapped up in one video, plus a little extra. Brilliant.
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@Thomas-in2wu
@Thomas-in2wu 5 жыл бұрын
Your recommended settings match my own settings! 👍
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Great :)
@btnbiker
@btnbiker 5 жыл бұрын
Good vid for newbies, the system is great in stop start traffic. I was on the M11 car park on one of our very hot days. Cruise control on, chilled seats, classic Fm just needed a glass of sherry to make it perfect. i find using the wheel switch rather than tapping the peddle to reactivate makes for a smoother faster move off. people who cut in is a big issue especially when some idiot does it on the motorway so when using it you must still stay alert. My advice would be never to have it set less than three spaces , there have been examples on the owners forums of accidents. If using the fast acceleration settings do pay extra care at roundabouts because if it sees a gap it will go for it
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Good suggestions, thanks - particularly about the shorter car lengths! :)
@EVPuzzle
@EVPuzzle 5 жыл бұрын
Kudos for your bravery trusting the car to brake when needed. It feels really uncomfortable when I've tested it with larger variations in speed of vehicles ahead
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Foot hovering over the brake most of the time ;)
@OszvaldJuhasz
@OszvaldJuhasz 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great video!
@alaninman3318
@alaninman3318 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Great set of videos. What you have described here is very similar to my ICE VW Golf adaptive cruise control. Keep up the good work!
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@davidcohen874
@davidcohen874 5 жыл бұрын
A very good and clear video. I have a PHEV which is just amazing. I don't commute and haven't tried the cruise control in busy local traffic. On the motorway it works great. Even better if you use the "smart cruise control" with Lane Keep Assist the car pretty well steers itself on the motorway and you just need to hold the wheel lightly with two hands. It doesn't sometimes feel it is going round a bend but it does. It works better between lanes when it sees both lines but not so good on the inside lane. We love driving the car in EV mode and keep it charged. We have only used 10L of petrol in 6 months.
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Nice info... Great to hear about the low fuel usage too! :)
@elymental
@elymental 5 жыл бұрын
Just ordered the hybrid ionic and it looks like there is a lot to learn. I test drove last week and I get the car at the end of my current BMW lease at the end of December . I am really excited due to it being my first hybrid car. Also I noticed what appeared to be a few local roads Burnley road towards todmorden Have a great day
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the hybrid. I’m seeing more of them on the roads lately. Always looking for interesting roads to film. I’m planning to film near Malham soon... there seem to be some scenic, twisty roads there :)
@elymental
@elymental 5 жыл бұрын
Zero Tailpipe We are so lucky having the Yorkshire dales I drive from Hebden bridge to Shipley once a week over the tops ( who needs the Nurburgring ; ) ) Have a great weekend my friend
@Zeisslermusic
@Zeisslermusic 5 жыл бұрын
There is no reason to dislike.....great work
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@marklawrence855
@marklawrence855 5 жыл бұрын
It's a great thing to have I have this on my Volvo
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed :)
@Peter-st1lt
@Peter-st1lt 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to make these very informative videos!
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@yggdrasil9039
@yggdrasil9039 5 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic and very informative. I really am getting the feel for owning and driving the Ionic EV to and from work every day, were a bag full of $50,000 Australian to unexpectedly land in my lap.
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@LaurensvanderVelde1997
@LaurensvanderVelde1997 7 ай бұрын
Very good video. Thank you very much!
@coinneachcombe3000
@coinneachcombe3000 5 жыл бұрын
A very helpful video, thank you.
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. You’re welcome :)
@weleshboatian5159
@weleshboatian5159 5 жыл бұрын
Your tip are helping get the best out of my Ioniq EV and some of your videos I have watched more than once to help me.
@pete9b
@pete9b 5 жыл бұрын
Another great informative video, thanks 👏🏻
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@bastooopanooo2311
@bastooopanooo2311 Жыл бұрын
Its mainly for motorways.
@martindunne9971
@martindunne9971 5 жыл бұрын
Can you use the re-gen paddles to override the smart cruise control, e.g. instead of braking to slow for a lane change ... ? Thanks for sharing the detailed testing!
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. The paddles are disabled whilst the cruise control is active. Sadly they can’t be used to slow... The KONA Electric has a new smart regen system... If I get to test drive one I’ll check what it can do :)
@paulbeattie4780
@paulbeattie4780 5 жыл бұрын
For me the regen shows it staying at the setting when scc was engaged but I’m not convinced that it is using the setting.
@Hibsclass
@Hibsclass 5 жыл бұрын
I have a excellent Hyundai Ioniq Hybrid and never really thought about using SCC (smart cruise control) in towns or other roads other than the dual carriageway, so will be trying it later. Though unfortunately the hybrid doesn't allow different settings for the distance between the vehicle in front and myself, this is a limitation that caused me to be wary of using it on the dual carriageway when it's busy, and I am a little nervous when cars overtake/lane swap as my car will brake quite a bit should a car move in front of me, which is a problem if cars are behind me. Great video though. Peace 🖖
@TassieEV
@TassieEV 4 жыл бұрын
Do miss your Ioniq videos but totally agree after having my Ioniq now for just over a year though I do find the Australian model or maybe the software is just more up to date does pickup cyclists and motorcyclists I'd say the majority of the time.
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Yeah, I wonder what if anything they update over time - and whether they update older cars or just new ones produced?
@pete9b
@pete9b 5 жыл бұрын
I use mine on setting 3 all the time and think its a very good system for both town and motorway conditions.
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Great :)
@tonycarey1735
@tonycarey1735 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2018 (ICE) Subaru Liberty sedan and the ACC seems to have the same strengths and limits as the Ioniq which is a good thing because I have traded the Subaru on an new Ioniq which will arrive in the next few weeks. The lag when resuming and the occasional false positives, are a little annoying but, overall, it's a good system. I look forward to getting to know the ACC in the Ioniq.
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 3 жыл бұрын
:)
@StuartDWright
@StuartDWright 5 жыл бұрын
Comprehensive video, thanks
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. You’re welcome
@paulvanderhaegen761
@paulvanderhaegen761 3 жыл бұрын
i ave a 2016 tucson2.0 diesel the system as made a huge leap forward i ave only normal cruse control so you ave to be aware of what is happening in front of you and the lane keep assist sims to be more sensitive in corners i can only take very large corners and the system is more searching. i use the lka only on motor ways but the cruse i use it almost every ware. my next car will probably be a ioniq or kona electric.
@volvocars5189
@volvocars5189 5 жыл бұрын
It should be called "adaptive cruise control" as any other system. Calling it "smart" is maybe pushing it a bit. 😉 Still, love my IONIQ 💙
@volvocars5189
@volvocars5189 5 жыл бұрын
If you want to use regular cruise control, keep the radar (distance) button pushed down for a sec or two.
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Useful to know, thanks :)
@volvocars5189
@volvocars5189 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed, especially if the sensor gets clogged up by snow or slush.
@khan-hg6em
@khan-hg6em 5 жыл бұрын
There is a copyright type thing on the names too of the systems I guess. As all companies use different names mostly.
@Retinalism
@Retinalism 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another excellent video ZT. I’m curious to know (and you may need a second, following driver to determine this) if the brake lights are activated when Smart Drive slows your car. We all assume it would, but confirmation would be great (and another video topic?).
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Hmmm... Interesting question. I know the regen activates the lights from driving at night (cars behind glow with my lights as they’re super bright). Not sure about the cruise control. Good idea and I’ll try to check in a future video... :) (Edit: Happily. Yes. They do. Just drove in low light and saw them come on reflected off the car behind.)
@tmller8665
@tmller8665 5 жыл бұрын
I always disengage the regen (meaning setting it to level "0") before activating the smart cruise control because then when I have to leave the smart cruise control setting the car doesn't start breaking.
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. It’s true the car really lurches into braking if you’re in Level 3 regen when disengaging the cruise control. There’s a short pause then it can be unsettling...
@cmuller1441
@cmuller1441 5 жыл бұрын
My mercedes B class "distronic plus" works the same. I just think that the radar is better in particular in curves. Also the ergonomics is better because it uses a small dedicated lever on the side.
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds good :)
@MrSeamusMurray
@MrSeamusMurray 5 жыл бұрын
Hi great video. I shared it on the Hyundai & Kia UK owners association. You should go and look at some of the comments on the posting. Regards Séamus
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Great, thanks :)
@obiskeyone
@obiskeyone 5 жыл бұрын
Works very similar to my i30 with the smart cruse control
@McTAnGuS
@McTAnGuS 4 жыл бұрын
2019 Tucson is identical in most of these scenarios. quite disappointed they do not appear to be actively making large improvements to this. Also the amount of braking force and steering torque can be limited so much that even on motorways it cannot take the corners when using the smart cruise and LKA. It's quite disappointing as well that the AEB on the Hyundai do not use the camera for detect pedestrians. Love my Tucson but Hyundai have a lot of work to do to catch up with competitors.
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 4 жыл бұрын
Does the Tucson have LFA (the newer system) in addition to LKAS? I’ve not been able to test LFA but it might be a bit better...
@keithgeorge7338
@keithgeorge7338 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks. My Skoda superb does the same. I wonder if, above a certain speed the system does not allow the car to undertake.
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Not sure...
@FHB71
@FHB71 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting. SCC restart does not work in the PHEV. As soon as you slow down it tells you that it deactivated itself and you need to reach 30 or 40 kph again before you can re-activate it. It is strange that the EV can do it, but the PHEV cannot. Could also be a regional thing. I drive it in Germany, so I do not know whether German Ioniq EVs can do it or not. I also think (I am not certain) that there is some interaction between the lane assistant and the SCC, when driving on the autobahn in a curve it seems to be able to distinguish between car on the same and different lanes that could only be distinguished by knowing which lanes they are in.
@4833504F
@4833504F 5 жыл бұрын
Same in the hev. Mine does not have an automatic parking brake, so it's understandable that it wants you to stop manually. However the scc can be reactivated at 10km/h if there is a moving vehicle detected in front. I think this is a safety mechanism to prevent you (or a child) from accidentally enabling the cruise control while parked. Works well for me, even in traffic jams.
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Hmm. Thanks. Did not know that. It can be a bit twitchy and not reactivate when perhaps it should in the EV. Also unsure what regional ‘deals’ Hyundai might have made about the various features...
@FHB71
@FHB71 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, you are correct. I read that in the manual, took a little to find and test it.
@zeeshegross9710
@zeeshegross9710 2 жыл бұрын
I see that, when you’re using the smart cruise control feature, it automatically disengages if you press the break pedal. In that situation, where you pressed the break pedal and then scc stopped, can you press the resume button to resume scc, or do you have totally reset it?
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 2 жыл бұрын
I think you can resume…
@dj3114
@dj3114 4 жыл бұрын
Been thinking about an Ioniq so this was very informative throughout. I do have a question if you have time. When a vehicle in front is going faster than you and leaves your "radar" cone, does the system "beep" to let you know that it's going to accelerate? I had Mistubishi that did that and it was so annoying I didn't use it.
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. It doesn’t do a system beep of this kind, no :)
@sasatosic
@sasatosic 3 жыл бұрын
@Zero Tailpipe, can you please explain what is the purpose of button on the left of hill hold ? Thanks in advance
@JohnSmith-ks9mj
@JohnSmith-ks9mj 2 жыл бұрын
Great video but I would rather rely on my own driving experience and would find this more of a distraction and safety issue- could probably find it may be useful on a M/way but other than that not for me as I dont think it has advanced enough yet to be totally reliant and safe.
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, it has its uses but I rarely used it on local roads
@temurhalalmeathmc2268
@temurhalalmeathmc2268 3 жыл бұрын
When it’s in smart crosse control does it break itself when the car at front of you stops or you have to break.
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 3 жыл бұрын
It brakes but shouldn’t be relied upon if you are close and need very sharp braking - although its emergency braking may activate too…
@randmotu
@randmotu 5 жыл бұрын
Great vid! I'm getting a used 2016 Sonata plugin Limited edition and wonder does anyone know how similar it is to the newer Ioniq?
@paulbeattie4780
@paulbeattie4780 5 жыл бұрын
I find that when I re-engage scc by using the accelerator the car will go to the speed the pedal is pushed to, which can be slower than the scc setting.
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I only tapped the pedal once to check it worked so didn’t notice this. Thanks for sharing :)
@Mr2pint
@Mr2pint 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what the Tesla system is like but this would drive me crazy, I have standard cruise control which I never use. Adaptive cruise control does interest me but not at this level.
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Yes, this kind of system does require paying quite a lot of attention. It was still nice though :)
@paguliukas
@paguliukas 4 жыл бұрын
my 2009lexus got that dinosaur system :D
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 4 жыл бұрын
;)
@TheBeggFamily
@TheBeggFamily 4 жыл бұрын
Some good bits and some not so good. Thanks.
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 4 жыл бұрын
:)
@TiJayFLY
@TiJayFLY 5 жыл бұрын
As an Ioniq driver: The system is FAR better than you make it look. Stationary traffic: The AEB would have stopped the car, you just jumped in before it had a chance. Check out some of the videos from guys in Eastern Europe who actually test it properly. Merge ins: Yes, it doesn't pick up a vehicle that pulls out inches in front, but from the looks of these clips (especially the Audi) you just lose nerve and intervene before the car actually has a chance to do anything! Also, if you had the LKAS view turned on, you'd have been able to see whether or not TACC has acquired the car in front - which eliminates the guesswork and "panic". Turn outs: The way the car deals with these is safer than human behaviour, as it waits until the departing vehicle is completely clear. The guy behind can live with it. Overtaking: Completely untrue. It takes a second to check the lane in clear, but it does then floor the throttle to accelerate. Again, this is safer than human behaviour as it only accelerates once in a clear lane. If the driver behind takes umbrage to it and infers human intention from the car's perfectly safe automated behaviour, respectfully, that's their problem not the Ioniq's. This "problem" will disappear once every car is fitted with TACC. Traffic signals and road markings: Well, obviously. It's radar-guided. This video was about as useful as the LKAS video, where you just steered the car the entire time. Why buy the car if you're not going to trust the systems?
@rickbean2170
@rickbean2170 5 жыл бұрын
Having driven many varied kinds of cars and having recently taken delivery of an Ioniq Electric. I find braking fearful. Very soft, spongy brakes requiring a lot of travel before positive, sharp braking and adaptive cruise control at motorway speeds can be very scary when approaching other cars at speed. Unfortunately, due to there being so few on the road. There is very little vehicle experience in the dealership network. They have no idea if this is normal regent behaviour or buggy/build issues. Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated.
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Hmm. I don’t think I’ve driven many cars where I liked the brakes - except a rental Chevy Camaro SS where they were superb. I think a Tesla Model S performance I test drove was good too. Certainly our IONIQ doesn’t brake assertively unless regen is on full (Level 3). It can be scary coming to a full stop in Level 0 (coast) suddenly, and I can really feel the weight of the car in those moments. The LEAF we had before was similar - suddenly the weight was obvious if you really needed to stop it. Overall difficult to know if it’s a fault or normal behaviour sorry...
@AWildBard
@AWildBard 5 жыл бұрын
Calling it "Smart Cruise Control" is much smarter than calling it "Autopilot".
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Sets the right expectations... along with the pages of visual and text disclaimers in the manual :)
@thefuturisticdreamer3242
@thefuturisticdreamer3242 5 жыл бұрын
So the Ioniq doesn't read or follow traffic lights then?
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Nope. As far as I know the camera is only for lane keeping...
@mondotv4216
@mondotv4216 5 жыл бұрын
Is the gap it leaves to the car in front speed dependent? It should be shouldn't it?
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Good point! It should be steps of times but I think it’s fixed distances that don’t vary with speed, according to the manual...
@mondotv4216
@mondotv4216 5 жыл бұрын
Zero Tailpipe How strange. The basic implementation on my Outlander PHEV at least varies with speed - ie the faster you go the more distance it leaves.
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Hmm... looking back at the manual it does specify the 1 to 4 distances ‘at 56 mph’... so perhaps it IS a time based system. A bit ambiguous, I guess...
@satjituppal8040
@satjituppal8040 5 жыл бұрын
Is your model the basic trim level or ultimate ?
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
It’s called Premium SE trim in the U.K. It may correspond to Ultimate in other territories but features differ from region to region...
@frankstocker5475
@frankstocker5475 4 жыл бұрын
It also says in the manual if you are not happy with these issues, buy a Tesla.
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 4 жыл бұрын
;)
@g_u_n2181
@g_u_n2181 3 жыл бұрын
Can i ask you something please, respond to me
@YousafKhan-uw4lr
@YousafKhan-uw4lr 5 жыл бұрын
Was that Halifax Rd at 4:18
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Possibly :)
@wusaf250
@wusaf250 5 жыл бұрын
was that ashton old road manchester? thats where i work lol
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Could be... was trying to dodge traffic on M60... ;)
@andyc9331
@andyc9331 5 жыл бұрын
That smart (which really is bloody dumb) cruise control is the only thing i hate on my Ioniq. Real pain in the bottom. Have anybody tried emergency braking in action? I`m kinda scared to do it just in case it doesnt work very well:)?
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
AEB works but I wouldn’t rely on it - especially if the angle of approach isn’t dead on ... due to the narrow front radar beam...
@andyc9331
@andyc9331 5 жыл бұрын
@@ZeroTailpipe I don't rely on it at all as well as lane keep assist. I'm an old guy so I like to be in control of my vehicle myself.. Old school style, you know 😎 Thank you for fast reply.
@zuhairhurani2496
@zuhairhurani2496 5 жыл бұрын
this is not safe driving bud... cruise control made for open hwy not city driving with stop light and yahooes merging in front of you ... i hate cruise control it puts me to sleep. great vied thank you . try it next time on wide open hwy
@marcusjackson9978
@marcusjackson9978 5 жыл бұрын
Not true. In this age of speed restrictions, speed cameras and average speed restrictions on all sorts of roads (including city and rural single lane roads) the cruise control is an invaluable aid is ensuring you keep within the speed limit. Excellent video by the way @Zero Tailpipe. Well presented.
@izansalleh7998
@izansalleh7998 5 жыл бұрын
I don't trust the SCC
@ZeroTailpipe
@ZeroTailpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Yes, it definitely has its limits :)
@ahmedk6207
@ahmedk6207 4 жыл бұрын
First time I used this I confused it with autopilot and I thought it would stop on red lights, So trusted it completely and passed the red light like a flash😂😂 wholly shit that was very scary, luckily the intersection was empty, and no camera detected me 😂😂😂😂🥶🤫‼️
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