Hey everyone! Thanks so much for watching. If you're interested in learning more about bikes featuring the Enviolo system, check out the links in the description! ✌

Great video (again) - your videos in general helped a lot for selecting drivetrain for my Multicharger. And it is indeed Enviolo. Keep up the good work

I have been using the earlier Nuvinci N360 for 2 yrs in the front wheel of my self built front wheel drive (moving bottom bracket) Cruzbike T50 recumbent with a rear electric motor and I generally like it for my transport needs. Its efficiency is significantly less than a typical derailleur because there is friction loss. A special fluid momentarily solidifies as its squeezes between the 9 planets and the very close input and output clutches. A few specialist sites comparing it with Rohloff hubs reckon its about 83% versus mid to high 90s% for geared hubs. I totally concur with that. I also agree this loss is a worthwhile trade on an e-bike. When fixing a flat, there is the extra work of releasing a catch on one cable end on the hubs shift ring then popping out the other cable end. When reinstalling the wheel, I have to remember which cable end goes into which spot and to not rotate the shift ring out of alignment. As I recall, Fallbrook recommends any mid drive motor limit its power to 350W, not a problem in Europe but I'd be shy to use a 750W mid drive here in the US.

After decades of riding bikes, I recently got a Tern HSD S+ with the Enviolo universal hub and I love it.

I have one of these in Australia and I added it to a recumbent which has made the experience very smooth and a real improvement. I don’t understand why there is not more hype about them. They are so superior to traditional geared with their fragility.

Another great video. Very informative. My generation was promised a flying car by now, but an electric bike is really nice to have.

I add one of these to my recumbent as starting from a total stop and the ability to dial in the lowest gear is just premier. It has made the whole experience very smooth and enjoyable

I've had my charger 3 with the enviolo hub and gates belt drive for about a month now. 450ish miles on it so far and I absolutely love it

Thank you, also love these more tech videos, so cool how they fit them on a bike.

When I saw the animation I was reminded of a prototype automatic transmission Honda developed for a true motorcycle (not CV scooter). Something like a ‘wobbling’ setup inside. Love these new technologies to get people to ride more. Gear shifting is the bane of most casual riders that I think prevents them from being regular riders, or at least willing to explore more, further out of their comfort zone.

I tried out an EBike with an Enviolo hub and automatic shifting. It took me a while to get used to the way it automatically shifted and I did have the option to manually shift as well. But once I got the hang of it, I really liked the auto shift feature and almost never used the manual. Unfortunately, the bike had motor problems and I opted to return it under the company’s 30 day satisfaction guarantee. But I sometimes long for that amazing experience of automatic shift. I’m glad to see other manufacturers incorporating these features now as well!

I have the Enviolo 380 on my Priority Continuum Onyx (a commuter bike with a carbon belt but not an electric bike), and I think it is great. My experience is consistent with this video. It's very intuitive. At first it's easy to get confused about which direction you should turn the shifter, but you get the hang of it pretty quickly.

Very nice video, Chris. Keep up the good work. Thank you.

Have the manual version on my Charger 3 HS, cannot say a bad word about it. Very pleased with it.

Interesting video, thanks. I have an N380 with Bosch drive and it’s a fantastic package for city commuter - painless and easy. I recently looked into converting from manual to automatiq and it stirred up my latent unease about the complexity and potential obsolescence of e-bikes. Whilst the shifter replacement is straight forward and within my capacity to do, integrating into the drive system requires: the bike manufacturer to be persuaded to release bike specific software files - which they may or may not do; the motor to be sent to a Bosch service centre (my nearest one is 3000kms away); and probably to maintain warranty the motor removal by a Bosch authorised LBS even though also within my capability. If Bosch is feeling generous they may allow the LBS to do the upgrading. So mechanically simple change for experienced bike hands but requiring coordination of three individual parties of various reluctance to do a software update. I opted to skip the hassle but i would have liked to try it…

Having used the NuVinci Enviolo 380 for the last 4 years on my recumbent delta trike - I absolutely recommend this.

Your videos are spot on informative.

I love the Enviolo system, its my favorite. I personally prefer the manual version over the automatic one. But yeah keep up the great videos. I love them. Wish you had a store here ;-). Cheers from Switzerland.

I put an enviolo on my azub trike, the assist is a tongsheng mid drive. I am in love with the enviolo gear. Been cycling for transport all my life and this really is worth every penny. No more fidgeting around with screws and such. It just works. The fact that it is continuous is absolutely fantastic.

Very neat concept - the animation helped visualize how it works

Nice of you to give a shout out to another channel. I subscribed because of it!

I have a Priority Contiuum Onyx (which isn't an e-bike) with the Enviolo drivetrain, and I can't speak highly enough of it. It's so smooth and intuitive, and I just never have to think much about it. Priority also offers it as an option on their e-bike.

I purchased 2 nice upper end Treks electric bikes last spring. Circled western half of country with grandson home from college. Started studying other bikes and settled on R and M Homage mostly through your suggestion. Way easier on my 75 yr old back which has witnessed many breaks. What a beautiful machine. I went to purchase hottest one from Ann Arbor Mi shop and lady who owned shop talked me into version for older guys with Evolo trans. Ride every day possible for 7 months on Metro bike trails and moving to Keys for winter to attempt to wear it out. What a beautifully engineered machine.

Changed my rear tire today on my R&M 2020 Tinker. You did not show it in the video but it was such an easy task, I was scared it would be very complex but you pretty much only need a 15mm wrench to take your wheel out and that's all. I am confident I could do this on the side of the road even

3:23 Mad props for the subtle engineering genius of this frame geometry. Not only does the tensioner pulley maintain proper belt tension-it also raises the belt further off the ground and eliminates the need for a rear triangle split for replacing belts. It's a shame they didn't make the tensioner pulley arm open on one side for a tool-free setup.

I have with my R&M Roadster... having had derailers for over 40 years was quite weird initially... but is so intuitive and you get used to it... also the smoothness and silence changing gears are very appealing. The analog interphase with the hill getting steeper or flatter in front of the rider, is very cute... and total family favourite

I bought an Enviolo-powered Tern HSD S+ last year for my wife and we both absolutely love it. Now I want one for myself and am just waiting for Propel to get more in stock. Unfortunately, we don’t have a Tern dealer near us, so I wish this channel could give us some support with some maintenance videos. In particular I’d love to see something as simple as how to change a rear flat tire on our HSD S+. The belt drive poses an intimidating complication compared to changing a flat on simple chain driven bikes.

Thumbs up for more of these tech videos...Mahle is pretty common among performance oriented ebikes like the Cannondale and Merida, if i am not mistaken. would love a deep dive into that too. cheers.

Great info/video! I didn't know this was that big!

Thanks for a good explanation. Mine is a Kalkoff German bike with Vinci 360 electronic shift - manual and automatic. It has worked well for 5000 miles but seems slow to change down when stationery now - maybe some wear? Sometimes it seems a bit clattery, but generally it is smooth and so far, durable. I cycle over stuff where only mountain bikes should go with rocks rolling under the wheels and hitting the spokes. The 250W motor (max permitted in Europe) transmits power through the gear system to get me up 1:3 hills - sometimes so steep the front wheel comes up and I fall off. Whilst there's life, there's hope, and I hope it lasts another 4 mths. for my 80th birthday!

I ride a HSD S8i and love that combo. I've tested a few Enviolo equipped bikes, but I find I like my gears to have steps better. Maybe it's because I'm really used to. So, for me Bosch motor + Nexus 8 + belt drive hits the sweet spot. It's a bit less expensive, a bit less weighty, a bit less bulky on the rear hub (looks also count) and equally reliable and equally maintenance free. Range is also more than enough, even for hilly cities like the one I live in.

Thanks for your Videos, love them. 👍 The Enviolo hub is good for Cargo-bikes and inner city drive. I personally like the Rohloff E14, because of the higher efficiency. If you want to ride more sporty or at higher speed, the E14 is the better hub. Especially when pedaling beyond the speed limiter. 😊

Great video! I love the frames and rear dropdowns on Reese & Muller and the Tern. The kind you can only wish to find when trawling Michigan for used bikes to convert to electric. I love the tilting front wheels & suspension on the Butchers cargo bike, so I looked it up and found the Propel webshop. Starting at $6500? I can go buy the best multiprocess TIG welder at Harbor Freight for about $1000, then buy donor bikes and parts. I may as well start building batteries and selling custom e-bikes at that point. For the price of one bike, I am ready to start my own business lol. Great videos and explanation. Thank you!

I put an Eviolo 330 on my 40 year old Norco Mountaineer. Works a treat. I kept the two front chain rings and rear derailleur for chain tension.

I built a Surly Troll with an Enviolo hub for my wife's winter commuter. It is such a great hub. I need one on my bike too. It is a little heavy, but all that weight is directly over your drive wheel (which can be helpful--especially in winter). The next upgrade is a Veer split belt drive, then it will really be maintenance free.

Very good information Chris!

Great video as always! I choose the Priority Current e-bike because of info on your videos. They seemed to have the components I preferred for my wife's bike. Sadly the support was terrible. No manual! Nothing. Your really on your own after purchase. It arrived with a damaged front wheel and brake rotor. They blamed it on FedEx but it likely traveled a long way before FedEx handled it. Like from China? They refused to send me a new wheel & rotor, and take back the damaged wheel, but instead said I had to bring it to a shop to be repaired. I had to drop it off and pic it up. 4 trips at over a 20 minute drive each way. That's 1.5 hours of driving MY car. Twice mount and dismount the bike rack as well. Now I have a repaired bike for a gift. It seems now to have a parasitic drain. If I let the bike sit for more than a week it drains itself halfway. I called and asked about it and got nowhere except that I should charge both batteries again to see what happens. Same crap. Big regrets..... I guess customer service isn't a "Priority" at Priority Bicycles.

I've been riding a Priority Turi for two years and it's Enviolo N300 is a dream to ride. The Gates belt drive has worked flawlessly for 5000+ miles and I use it as a grocery getter every week as well as recreation/exrecise. The whole rig cost me around $1200 in 2020 including rear and front racks, two pannier bags that double as backpacks and a Foldylock that's mounted where the bottle rack usually goes.

I have ebike with enviolo automatiq. In the begining, I was skeptical but after some time I am fully convinced this is the drive train I want. No need to worry about changing gears and so quiet. The downside is bit of drag but with ebikes, it should not matter.

You bring out a good point. The intersection taking place between the American performance objective and the European practical and low maintenance commute one.

3 years ago I was shopping E-Bikes & was focused on one out of Seattle called Evelo which also featured the NuVinci C.V.T. & Gates Carbon Belt Drive. However, While at my local E-Bike Shop (Fullerton Ca) I actually unboxed an R & M Nevo (which I BOUGHT on the spot) equipped W/the NuVinci C.V.T.,Bosch, & Gates Carbon Belt Drive. I bike through the Monster Sized Hills in Fullerton with ease. I have to agree with Chris on his ENVIOLO evaluation. After 3 years of riding, & a couple thousand miles I've only added air to the tires. Great bike. Great C.V.Transmission. Great Video Chris.By the way Chris, do you sell "PROPEL" or "Riese & Müller" decals for the back window of my TUNDRA?

Excellent review.

Interesting video, thanks for the information...

We’re using two, on a long tour. Working fine.

Hi Chris, I have the automatic version of enviolo on my bike and I will never go back to manual system. I use the bike for going around the city and for going to work and I can say that this system it's really enjoiable and usefull. You can be more focused on the traffic and don't care about shifting. Thanks for the video!

I’m surprised you have not mentioned Evelo bikes. Specifically the Aurora which I feel has really figured out the ultimate configuration. Gates belt drive Throttle (A huge plus) Envelio hub Mid drive motor Step through frame I know you don’t carry this bike but would love to hear your thoughts on this bike.

Here's some input from a 69-yr-old who's been cycling for 56 years. A CVT does have a lot of benefits, just as you mentioned. From my childhood days, when I drove a 3-speed Sturmey Archer-based "English racer" in NYC, I can agree that a 3.8x ratio between lowest and highest gears suffices. At the other extreme, for adventure biking, I'd recommend a greater range, such that the high-end remains around 108 gear inches, but the low-end drops to something around 20 gear inches. Not only must an adventure bike have the low gearing of a mountain bike, but there's also the challenge of hauling extra weight (for all the supplies needed when gone for days, weeks, or months at a time). You also mention "efficiency," but fail to explain what you mean by it. I surmise you are referring to the mechanical losses (for example, due to friction) that make the power coming out of the transmission (delivered to the wheel) less than the power (delivered by the belt) into the transmission. This concept is just like we see in cars, where the horsepower coming out of an engine via crankshaft doesn't all arrive to the drive wheels. When one's battery is stout, and traveling distance short, some drop in efficiency can be tolerated, as long as it's reasonable. However, when going for longer distances and contributing to the power by pedaling, one had better maximize efficiency. How do the efficiencies of the Rohloff and Enviolo compare?

The Enviola is ideal where you don't need the range of a Rohloff. I love both !

I have a N380 on my Catrike Expedition with a few thousand miles on it, still no problems. It's just perfect.

Its the best invention ive used after 4 years of running a Rohloff 14. 30 years of road riding in my legs and still doing 3.5 k miles a year utility riding. Set and forget

Thanks for the video

I ride hercules cargo bikes for work, and an urban arrow with a volunteer food bank, and both types have enviolo hubs, though the former ones are quite a lot older, (I think from 2016?), and the shifters are pretty stiff; you can't twist it while pedaling, or shift down very far when at a standstill. Not sure how much is down to ageing and use vs improved design, but the newer urban arrow which I think is from 2019 is quite a lot smoother to use in every aspect. Regardless, I still prefer even the stiff old enviolo over any other gear system as far as a cargo bike application is concerned, being able to shift almost instantly from highest to lowest gear ratio and without pedalling is invaluable in the hilly and chaotic streets I do deliveries at. I'm happy sticking with the derailleur I have on my personal touring eBike though, as it's a bit cheaper and more efficient, and being caught in the wrong gear isn't really a concern with a 25kg bike, compared to a 50kg cargo bike with another 50kg of groceries.

I've literally just heard of this Enviolo system today through your videos. I would love to the the auto version on something like the Orbea Vibe, or that style of roadbike.... something with 700c wheels that isn't massively heavy, and a good allround bike... it would be brilliant

Hi. Great video about a really cool transmission. I recently had the chance to work on a fleet of café moto e-bikes that are fitted with this system coupled with the Gates carbon belt drive. It takes a little time to get used to but being able to micro adjust your transmission ratio is a great advantage on a long climb. Super low drive train maintenance is also a huge plus. If you are anywhere near Stinson Beach CA, Fritz Bikes have a number of them for day rental so you can check the enviolo system for yourself.

I rode a lot with nuvinci 360 in a mtb. Efficiency wasnt a big issue. Shift under load and precise rpm control compensate the losses. Losses are bigger in low rpm and hot days. Still better than a sturmey archer 8sp

I have a riese and muller with the enviolo trekking with automatiq in my view the best with this type of gear-hub it just does everything and makes sure you are always in correct gear and powerband. Also you don't need to hold back when 'shifting' since well you can't since it decides when todo it. Just peddle and go.. Would not get one where its not easy to set peddle speed (R&M allows you to set it on the bosch system on the fly very easy).

I have tern gsd with twist enviolo. Definitely back off power when shifting. At first I shifted under load but it got a little stiffer. I've since shifted without load and seems to be fine now. It's a great system, worth the extra money. One downside is if the twist shift gets wet it can be slippery and hard to shift. Not a big issue, but enviolo could work on increasing grip when wet on the twister in the future.

Hi Chris, thank you for the informative video. I have a 2017/18 R and M superdelite with the N360 hub. I have noticed a bit of side to side play i the rear wheel. I work for one of the big high street cycle retailers here in the uk so I am able to do fair bit of servicing myself, however this hub does not appear to have the usual bearings that can be replaced if there is a bit of wheel play. I have asked enviolo but not heard back from them . Any tips of ideas?

Since you asked for feedback: I bought my first e-bike three and a half months ago. After MUCH research (including your channel - thank you), I chose a compact e-bike with an enviolo hub and Gates carbon belt drive. I wanted idiot proof and low maintenance - so far, so good :) I would happily chose this hub again. Ironically, my cars have all had 5 speed manual transmissions (more fun to drive), but I don't want the hassle of a derailleur and greasy chain on a bike.

Muy contento con el producto, funciona perfectamente e incluso tiene mas potencia de la que pensaba que podria tener.

The enviolo name is a modification of the root acronym NVO, which stands for "NuVinci Optimized", enviolo is always spelled with a lower case letter.

I'm a bit sceptical when it comes to the enviolo because I've read a lot of stories of them breaking. Also, they seem not to work all that well in hilly terrain because of their low range - so you might not be able to get the bike rolling on inclines. Going uphill a lot also seems to destroy the hubs faster.

Exelente video thanks

Test road a R&M Load 75 with the Enviolo hub few years back. The bike lost its cadence after 20-22mph, is that still the case? I understood that the motor cuts the assist at certain speed, but was the hub also setup with a limiter?

Great video thanks. Could you please help me to make a decision? I am thinking to buy the Canyon Precede On CF9 or the CF8. One has traditional gears and the other the automatic Enviolo. I cannot find a bike with this system to test it. My question is, besides commuting, can you actually get the same level of exercise as you get with the traditional gearbox?

Specialized is using the enviolo, as is priority as you mentioned.

Love that bike!!. Make/Model and cost?

I would like to get this on a Greenspeed GT20 recumbent trike that I am ordering, but I don’t think the twist shifter would work for me, partly because the handle bars are vertical. Are there any alternative shifters available? Would the automatiq shifter work on a bike with no electric motor? Could the shifter be mounted with the shift ring down, and the cables pointing up?

My Gazelle Ultimate has an envoilo. It needs to be said that it also drains battery life more.

I am interested in a lot of the bikes that you mentioned..

Can you please start stocking the Priority Current in your shop in Long Beach? I know they don't use Bosch but they do use a mid-drive motor using a belt drive and this Envilolo internal hub. Would be nice to see that in your shop, I would buy one ASAP!

Looking to get a cargo bike with the Enviolo Automatiq - whats your thoughts on using the automatic shifting in hilly areas? Does it cope ok or would you recommend going for the twist/manual gear shifting? Any thoughts on reliability of the Automatiq vs twist shift?

Been day dreaming of this hub. Wondering if it was ever to be made. Now i know... 🤔.. Amazing. So much potential for this hub... Does it have regen??????

Thanks for your great videos: I am a big fan. Would you rather go for Enviolo hub or Rohloff for a Riese & Muller Homage high speed (assisted up to 45 km/h)? I love Enviolo hub but I am afraid it is not suited for pedaling at 45 km/h. What is your opinion?

Hey, great video. One suggestion: look at recumbent trikes. They reckon that 15% of the world's population is disabled, including me. I'm a long-term stroke survivor and my stroke left me with balance issues. I have an ICE Adventure HD fitted with a 14-speed Rohloff hub and I'm considering swapping the Rohloff for an automatic Enviolo. It would be great if you mentioned disabled cyclists.

I was actually pretty skeptical towards NuVinci making it, mainly because of inefficiency... however pairing it with e-bike for basic transportation and hitting a good price point it does actually have a niche. I am happy it all came to fruition as competition (or trickle down military tech) is mainly the only way to push industry forward.

After my partner & my testing of R&M e bikes Rohloff was the best gear box

Hey Chris, I was checking out the Bulls La Cuba Evo 10. I know it used to use an internally geared hub, but went to a derailleur. The explanation I heard was the 90Nm may have been too much for it, but you say they are rated for 100Nm. Any ideas?

So with Priority's Current e-bike, you have a choice of the Enviolo OR the Shimano. The Current puts out 140Nm with belt drive and mid-drive. I live where there are a lot of hills. On one hand, people comment Enviolo is great because you don't have to let up on pedaling for shifting so this would help with needing to shift while putting a lot of pressure on the pedal going up hills but then some people saying Enviolo isn't great for hills without offering much evidence. Any opinions? Thanks for the video!

When using the enviolo hub without electric power assist, is its less efficiency compared to Rohloff or traditional external gear drive-train significant enough to make it not as good as the more efficient hub or drive-train? If going with a bike without electrical power, would it be better to go with the traditional external gear drive-train or with the enviolo hub despite its slightly less efficiency?

Pardon my ignorance but can the enviolo or any other internally geared hub be used with the e-motor off if not needed at the moment? Say level riding and want to get a workout?

Can the manual version be retrofitted with an automatic ? Thinking about c380 with bosch motor conversion

I wonder what special viscosity properties the internal hub's lubricant has to make it suitable for use as a CVT?

Test rode one this past weekend for the first time and I was surprised how much I liked it. It was a manual one on a tern GSD. It does seem to work especially well with an electric bike. It definitely has a slightly 'mushy' feel compared to a derailleur setup. I would like to try the automatic version, although more electronics just seems like more to go wrong over time... How do you think the long term durability will compare to a hub like the Alfine 8?

Great video! What's the bike model at 6:32?

Mine is leaking a little oil 🤔 but i love the hub. Can i use it in the winter like -30c weather.

Is it worth it over a shifter where the gears click or steps as you refer to?

I'm curious whether you could build this into a hub motor.

Low maintenance is very appealing. I think so many people let their bikes go and end up sitting in the garage for years.

Very informative video 👍. I've been thinking about adding a town bike since I like walking or riding to places, but a Mtb or road bike just isn't good for carrying stuff back home. Been looking into a geared hub with a belt drivetrain.

All my bikes have the Fallbrook Technology Nuvinci hubs. I have an N330, N360, and and N380. All are incredibly easy to use and are very dependable. It is very easy on my knees because I can be in the exact ratio I need. I also like not being stuck in high gear after a stop, as the hub can be shifted through most of its range without pedaling. My bikes are not E-bikes.

I am on Schindelhauer Oskar ebike single speed right now, would love to get Enviolo one. Any thoughts about Schindelhauer bikes? Also, any thoughts on Enviolo Automatiq?

Interesting, with a derail system, you must peddle, aka placing a load, to switch gears however with this system it is ideal to not peddle. If that statement is true, how is this system ideal for mid mount electric drive?

does anyone know what happens with the enviolo AUTOMATiQ when you run out of battery? How do you shift? Does it shift?

ICE is moving forward confidently with the Enviolo hub and the Shimano motor.

just got my como 4 igh. i have to admid its nice... missing a bit the higher gears sometimes indeed even though right now i try to focus to a fixed pace around 70-75 rpm. and of course to accept that the max speed of 25 kmh is really hard to exceed. so, the only thing i can criticize is if you start on an easy gear for instance to climb a hill, and you got some speed and want to put a harder gear for more speed its really hard. you need to go off the pedals and give it a second for the motor to stop pushing so you can shift smoothly. but, still new. 9 days old. maybe ill find its tricks

How many gears approximately does it have in comparison other competitors?

You said it is maintenance free but everything fails over time. Can these be rebuilt? By a skilled bike owner? If replacement is needed so you have to replace the whole wheel or lace it into the spokes?

I'm a bit confused with enviolo products. Can i get the heavy duty one with the AutomatiQ system?

Whats your opinion on using a dog trailer with the enviolo stem adapter