Is eTorque Worth It? RAM 1500 Laramie Longhorn HEMI eTorque

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Is the new eTorque system something you should get in your new Ram? We have a look at this Ram 1500 Laramie Longhorn with the 5.7-litre HEMI eTorque set up and find out if it’s all worth it.
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@DReinbolz 4 жыл бұрын

Would have liked the discussion to be focused strictly on etorque. This turned out to be just an overall review of the truck. I know the other options are nice, but I want to know how etorque functions, what economy it offers, and if it's worth it. I don't care about the air suspension, the driver position, or any of the other mentions that wasted video time.

@darrinstewart7622 3 жыл бұрын

I just bought 2021 Big Horn with the 3.6L motor with eTorque and have been trying to figure out what it does. Some videos claim the 5.7L eTorque start/stop function saves 1.7 ounces of gas every 90 seconds. With $3.00 a gallon gas, this seems to be a penny every 19 seconds stopped. I can shut off the start/stop with a button each time I get in the truck, but I do not notice it stopping and starting. The truck needs to warm up before the start/stop is available. I hope the other functions of the eTorque are worthwhile. From what I can find, the extra lithium battery should last ten years or 150,000 miles, but I find that hard to believe.

@DReinbolz 3 жыл бұрын

@@darrinstewart7622 thanks Darrin. It looks like the poster removed our back and forth discussion. I did end up buying an etorque hemi and I like it. The start stop is seamless with smooth function. I haven't noticed an not difference because it was on the truck from the start and I'm getting below rated mpgs as it sits.

@darrinstewart7622 3 жыл бұрын

@@DReinbolz I only have a hundred miles on mine. I tried to buy the cheapest version possible. 4x4 is the only option above base. I wanted fuel economy over power. The 3.6L motor choice is my biggest long term question. On my farm, the truck should haul mostly tools and fishing poles. I have tractors and a bigger truck for heavier work. I travel ten miles of country roads to buy a gallon of milk, so I do not want a truck that gets 14 mpg!

@dontelindsey5846 2 жыл бұрын

@@darrinstewart7622 how has it been in the last nine months?

@darrinstewart7622 2 жыл бұрын

I think it is fine. I usually turn off the stop/start. The stop/start works fine, but it seems strange sometimes. If pull in my driveway and put my foot on the break and think about a second, the engine shuts off. Then when I move the knob from drive to park, for some strange reason, the engine starts back up before I can shut it off with the button. I do not have a lot of miles on it, perhaps 1200. On a 63 mile trip each way, the computer said it got 23 miles per gallon, but the computer usually overestimates by 1 mile per gallon. This was mixture of small town and 55 mph rural highway driving. If I drive in local small towns a lot and move it out of the way in the barn a few times, the gas mileage drops to 17 miles per gallon. The cold engine burns a lot of gas. I did lose my fog lamps, but expect that to get fixed under warranty soon. @@dontelindsey5846

@curtisvannoy8009 3 жыл бұрын

Incredible brother I love it can’t wait to get my 2021 with all the new features thank you for the video

@BrianMakse 3 жыл бұрын

The changes are going to be great. What spec did you get?

@ababyo92 Жыл бұрын

Excellent quality video! Such a video voice you have! Maybe in the next video you can talk about the tow quality. I recently went to purchase an etorque and almost changed because it didn’t have the 3.92 gears allowing it to tow the 12,000.

@DanielRyanScott Жыл бұрын

The 2022 Ram Laramie GT that I purchased has the V8 Hemi eTorque system in it, and I noticed a big increase in my MPG. I am getting 24 MPG currently. The system does more than launching and auto off, it also takes over power for the electronic devices and helps cool the air intake if you the Ram forced air intake, which helps the engine reduce load from the AC/Music and increase combustion efficacy via cooler air. BUT in the end, it depends how you use it, where you live and the environment. For me in the desert, im a huge supporter.

@daveh9551 Жыл бұрын

Was gonna get a Silverado but I got the Etorque Ram 1500. Guess it’s better than having the lifters and transmission got out. Let’s just face it people , if we wanted to penny pinch MpG we wouldn’t have gotten a pick up truck . I drove from Florida to Va and filled up three times .. averaged 70-85 mph and my truck is lifted so it’s not as bad as I thought it would be. Gas is just high right now which sucks . I cost about $80 to fill up on 89

@BrianMakse Жыл бұрын

Glad you're enjoying your Ram!

@moulin6 Жыл бұрын

great review!

@Hemidakota 3 жыл бұрын

The mild-hybrid was a concept idea of a Chrysler fanatic back in 2015.

@Hundert1 3 жыл бұрын

Nice video, thanks

@leonardvavra9493 3 жыл бұрын

I agree about the leather.

@RAM-KINGOFTRUCKS 2 жыл бұрын

Is that the max steel color?

@tntrailrider7379 2 жыл бұрын

I had a big horn crew cab with the hemi etorque and I don’t think it helps mpg at all. Actually there’s as much evidence it hurts mpg as it does help on other longer term reviews. I can only say that I got nowhere near advertised mpg even when I baby’d it. If I ever get another Ram I won’t get one with the etorque.

@adinlucena7047 4 жыл бұрын

Feel like I was click baited... hardly any etorque discussion. Felt like the title is kinda misleading, might as well put Ram review on the title.

@BKetch 3 жыл бұрын

Yup, thats all I'm looking for. Im sure its nice when it works. And not a problem for people who trade up every 2 years. I tend to buy 2+ year old ones and keep them for 5-8 years.

@ryanhemming9546 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Love the Hemi but I have doubts about etorque. This video didn't answer any reliability concerns.

@maximilin8381 Жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot

@beaudean723 5 ай бұрын

Great Vid... Thanks!!

@BrianMakse 4 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@dansouthcomb5439 2 ай бұрын

I have a 2022 Hemi etorque which just happen to be in the Laramie I liked. I driven this truck for over a year and I don't believe it serves a useful purpose. I believe it was something to apease the EPA. When that etorque motor or the LiPo4 battery goes it's going to cost a hell of a lot more than the $200 up charge. Although the ecotorque system has 8yr/80k warranty. Wish I just had the Hemi only. Also the seamless start/stop identified in this video is no different than any other newer vehicle. If you have the air during hot weather, due to the power draw the mortor will restart in about 30-45 seconds.

@franknavarro4183 3 жыл бұрын

I love the interior of this ram ,I wish the limited have this interior color

@BrianMakse 3 жыл бұрын

I had to look at the vid, couldn't remember what it looked like. So long ago...

@codydonovan7356 3 жыл бұрын

If you want this interior than buy a longhorn…

@corndogg78 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 2017 longhorn, I like the interior color scheme in it better than the black/brown of the current generation of the longhorn trim.

@t-dawgl8338 3 жыл бұрын

Lots of over enthusiastic reviewers screaming at you. While I appreciate the enthusiasm, this guys relaxed demeanor is a nice change and good info on the milage. Got the exact same truck on the way super stoked.

@BrianMakse 3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that! I don't watch other channels. Do people really get all worked up in their episodes? Enjoy your truck!

@banbo8627 3 жыл бұрын

How will the start/ stop affect the cabin... I'm talking about heat , AC, dash display, or anything that's being charged when the truck come to a stop?... Will they keep working or do heat and AC turn off temporary?

@BrianMakse 3 жыл бұрын

No issues, at least when it switches off at stoplights.

@joostinkong 3 жыл бұрын

The AC still blows cold when the engine is off. The etorque spins the AC compressor when the engine is off.

@corndogg78 2 жыл бұрын

@@joostinkong it will blow cold as long as the evaporator is cold. sit long enough or in hot enough weather and it wont be blowing cold air until the compressor starts spinning again when the engine starts.

@dkh1020 Жыл бұрын

@@joostinkong NO it doesn't. Do your homework and get your facts straight

@rubencastillo2927 11 ай бұрын

Bring in the chrome flowers, it’s very powberful truck.

@patrickmckowen2999 3 жыл бұрын

Good review - etorque sounds too mild. I think the F150 is a better hybrid system at least for my needs -- but I really like the Ram layout better - no stick shift😍 Cheers

@BrianMakse 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed, Patrick. It is indeed ultra mild. I haven't looked at the F150 hybrid. Assuming it has a modest battery.

@philipjones5364 2 жыл бұрын

What is the cost of that package innUS dollars.

@jasonb4178 3 жыл бұрын

Would like ram to offer etorque on all their 1500 model trims that come with the 5.7 Hemi and not just the Laramie and above. Also, reducing the price of etorque atleast by half for us Canadians would be nice too. Looking forward to seeing if they do either in the 2022 line-up.

@BrianMakse 3 жыл бұрын

I doubt it, but who knows?

@jasonb4178 3 жыл бұрын

@@BrianMakse personally it just seems bizarre. The engine and engine bay are the same, so it's not like they'd lose money on making it optional across the entire line-up. If anything they'd actually gain.

@jasonb4178 3 жыл бұрын

@BrianMakse 3 жыл бұрын

@@jasonb4178 there are plenty of considerations, from engineering to marketing to product planning, and for those changes to happen now, they would have been planned a couple of years ago at this point.

@jaimesantiago1229 3 жыл бұрын

@JasonB I own a Ram 1500 2021 lone star edition with a 5.7 and etorque

@jasontindal2525 2 жыл бұрын

I need to tow an 8500 lb 35' bumper pull RV... what are your thoughts on pulling it with a 2019 1500 HEMI and the ETORQUE?

@lifes2short4bs73 2 жыл бұрын

Get it with the 3.92 gears and you’ll have a tow rating about 11,500 lbs

@nickspatola8637 2 жыл бұрын

I've had multiple different Rams and rowed quite a bit. For that weight get the cummins. It's not fun towing that much weight with a half ton..trust me

@DanBlackRacing 2 жыл бұрын

That's not a truck, that's an overgrown luxury car.

@RAM-KINGOFTRUCKS 4 жыл бұрын

RAM-1500 KING OF TRUCKS..PERIOD

@BrianMakse 4 жыл бұрын

That's one way to put it.

@boonelipsey5393 3 жыл бұрын

Yes it does impact miliage. I had E-torque. I traded my truck in for one without. 2 to 3 miles to the gallon impact. And it's not a mild hybrid. It's an assist system. It restarts the motor. But it doesn't drive the motor.

@Hundert1 3 жыл бұрын

So the e-torque version has a regular battery plus another one for the e-torque thing? I thought the e-torque actually gives us more power, at the beginning of driving only?

@boonelipsey5393 3 жыл бұрын

@@Hundert1 For about 1-1/2 rotations. The extra battery stores Regen power from the brakes and when the E-torque is generating power. Then that battery maintains the 12 volt battery. So you are correct. Very limited amount of assist. Not like a hybrid motor that actually runs the drivetrain. It also starts the motor in Stop Start rather than the starter. I think that may be the difference in gas milliage. It is auch better system than Stop Start that uses the starter. Much less harsh. Sometimes you don't even feel it.

@Hundert1 3 жыл бұрын

@@boonelipsey5393 Thanks, I have a 2019 Ram Laramie 4x4 off road version e-torque with air suspension and am very happy with it. So far so good. I've 5000 miles on it so we see. It's so much better than my 2015 Silverado 1500. In 2 wheel drive the Ram holds the road even uphill when pavement is wet or with snow so much better than my Silverado did. I also like the interior layout and appearance inside and from outside best over Chevy, Ford, GMC or Toyota.

@boonelipsey5393 3 жыл бұрын

@@Hundert1 I love both versions of my Ram. Bought the Quad. Decided I needed more room. Traded it in for the Crew. Believe it or not I made out like a bandit. Got more for the Quad than I paid. And my interest dropped significantly. I don't miss the stop start. But I do miss the 23 to 25 MPG highway. And the 17 around town. The crew I get 13 around town and 21 to 23 hwy.

@boonelipsey5393 3 жыл бұрын

@@Hundert1 I love the Laramie. Expecially the longhorn.

@Little.R 3 жыл бұрын

JRE fan. Nice.

@BrianMakse 3 жыл бұрын

Listener, for sure. Perhaps one in every six shows interest me.

@Mildern 2 жыл бұрын

For the 22 models the etorque is the same price as the regular hemi.

@mrtosh 3 жыл бұрын

I know you said you're in Canada, did you mean to say 11-13 KPL or 11-13MPG?

@BrianMakse 3 жыл бұрын

What is KPL?

@mrtosh 3 жыл бұрын

@@BrianMakse kilometers per liter.

@BrianMakse 3 жыл бұрын

That’s a new one. Never heard that measure before.

@mrtosh 3 жыл бұрын

@@BrianMakse what is the correct term for mileage I'm Canada then? It's not miles per gallon... My question is what measurement are you using in this video?

@BrianMakse 3 жыл бұрын

Officially, it’s litres per hundred kilometres, but unofficially we use US MPG as well. Most of our channel’s viewers are American.

@mrshopjulius5840 3 жыл бұрын

This truck is the fastest truck ever made in the history of the automobile baby I love this Ram truck and I purchased this truck from a woman salesperson at a Ram Dealership in the home town of the onion baby.

@BrianMakse 3 жыл бұрын

This is a mild hybrid. Not quick. Not fast.

@commoncents456 3 жыл бұрын

My salesman said My truck was the Fastest They promised 😛🍹

@mrshopjulius5840 3 жыл бұрын

@@commoncents456 We all know sales people never lie.

@commoncents456 3 жыл бұрын

@@mrshopjulius5840 😛😛😛

@charleswhitlock5238 2 жыл бұрын

My Man! Real cool and smooth talking but don't like leather 🤷🏾‍♂️🤠🤠

@BrianMakse 2 жыл бұрын

It’s lame.

@dontelindsey5846 4 жыл бұрын

Can the start stop be turned off?

@BrianMakse 4 жыл бұрын

Of course. You can disable it on nearly every vehicle that has it.

@johnpeters448 3 жыл бұрын

@@BrianMakse But can you permanently turn it off or do you have to turn it off every time you start the truck?

@corndogg78 2 жыл бұрын

@@johnpeters448 Just like with the MDS it has to be turned off every time.

@67roaddog 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it can. But it has to be turned off every time you don't want it. It can not be permanently disabled.

@dennisvolpe4805 Жыл бұрын

13mpg?! My 2015 Ram 1500 with the 5.7 gets 17 city and 20 highway. The only way I could get 13 mpg is if I'm towing. Usually 10-14 mpg towing, depending on the speed and the load.

@BrianMakse Жыл бұрын

I don't drive like your grandmother.

@lb7144 5 ай бұрын

When I got my 2016 Limited new, it averaged 12 mpg and slowly got better as the engine was broken in. After that first year, I was averaging 19 mpg highway. The truck has held that for the past 8 years and hasn’t given me any trouble. I like the Rams, they’re not perfect but they are far better built than yesteryears

@williamwooldridge2311 2 жыл бұрын

Like are we gonna hear anything about the E tourq.you now what this video is supposed to be about?????

@jayboogie7956 3 жыл бұрын

Wanna save gas? Then drive the speed limit to the T.

@BrianMakse 3 жыл бұрын

Boring.

@turkeyboyjh1 2 жыл бұрын

Since gas has gone up I set the cruise in my 08 Chevy at 60 everywhere, her in Northern California it’s all 55/65 mph 2 lane highways, I average near 23 mpgs on the highway. My dad just got a 2022 5.7 etorque 4 days ago and we aren’t dodge people but he got a great deal on it and no complaints so far but the 08 is definitely still faster but the dodge will get the same mpgs at 70 as the Chevy will get a 60, I will say that stop start is silky smooth I hate it on any other vehicle but I like this one, and the transmission is very smooth too

@cliffelwood4992 3 жыл бұрын

That interior is hideous. I am a RAM guy but come on.. Second, what kind of driving do you do, I have a 2004 and 2011 3/4 hemi. The 2011 has 410 rearend. I get 14-15 all day long 50/50 driving and 16-17 on the highway. Guess I shouldn't complain... Lastly, my 2020 is an eco diesel and best of my lot. Love it

@BrianMakse 3 жыл бұрын

I think all trucks suffer from the same interior design philosophy. They're all purposeful, but unattractive.

@corndogg78 2 жыл бұрын

previous generation (classic body style) Longhorns had a better color scheme, it didn't have the black interior.

@jjohnsoniaff1 3 жыл бұрын

Just wait until that etorque dies. Bad idea just like the Ram air suspension that I have spent thousands to keep it working.

@BrianMakse 3 жыл бұрын

WHAT IS THE NASCAR GOAT DOING HERE IN MY COMMENTS TALKING ABOUT RAM TRUCKS??????

@witkr904 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder why the 2500/3500 models have a sealed system using Nitrogen, but the 1500 uses ambient air? Without an air dryer just asking to freeze up north of the Mason Dixon Line.

@BKetch 3 жыл бұрын

Says you dont like leather because its hot in the summer and cold in the winter. Then proceeds to say it has heated and cooled seats. Lol

@BrianMakse 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@jllrue 3 жыл бұрын

Time will tell if the Start / Stop will eat starters in all brands of vehicles, I know they say they won't, but I don't believe the pencil pushers!

@BrianMakse 3 жыл бұрын

Indeed. There's no question they're engineered to a higher standard for their duty cycle, but who knows. Certainly more expensive to replace. However, IIRC, the eTorque vehicles don't have a starter, so it's the whole unit you'd have to replace.

@Jester_1 3 жыл бұрын

Ram with etorque doesn't use the starter when in start/stop mode. It uses the 48v generator.

@starmc26 3 жыл бұрын

There is no "starter" with etorque... Etorque IS the starter.

@golfbuddy1969 4 жыл бұрын

Hey, go easy on Prius drivers. My work car is a Prius, but I won’t be holding you up...I drive it super aggressively.

@BrianMakse 4 жыл бұрын

I could always run your Prius over with one of these big trucks!

@golfbuddy1969 4 жыл бұрын

Brian Makse hahaha! Any chance that you’ll be getting a chance to drive the new Porsche 718 GTS 4.0 soon? I’ve never owned a Porsche, or really any performance car, but that could be my first...I have always dreamed of owning a Porsche.

@BrianMakse 4 жыл бұрын

LOL, there’s zero chance of me driving that, at least through the usual channels. Porsche Canada has decidedly put me on their blacklist.

@golfbuddy1969 4 жыл бұрын

Brian Makse I hate to hear that. I love your perspectives.

@markclabaugh9067 Жыл бұрын

I own this truck, Longhorn Limited and eTorque is the most idiotic features you can add on. He starts off with the the whole "Shut Down/On" feature. Leave it up to RAM to develop a system that does not work at all in the entire southern half of the United States, Sierra Nevada or any other hot, cold, hilly or mountainous regions. With less than 12,000 miles I decided to talk my eTorque back to RAM to figure out why the truck NEVER shuts off/on at stops. In fact, most of Brian's diatribe is about the rest of the truck and not the obvious deficiencies of eTorque. As it turns out there is a list of reasons why this feature DOES NOT WORK shutting down and on at stops. A/C Turned on Heater Turned on Truck Facing up or down on Incline Steering Wheel turned more than X Degrees Temperature too hot or too cold Then you have understandable reasons such as doors open, seatbelts off, 48 volt battery low, Basically RAM developed a gas saving feature that has very little chance unless you are in a mild temperature area that is flat while you have the AC or heater off. Not sure where that is in the United States, but certainly not here in Florida.

@idaroseflorez 2 жыл бұрын

Super helpful video but why the snark about Prius drivers? Seriously? You want us off the road? Why so nasty? SMH.

@BrianMakse 2 жыл бұрын

Prius drivers are card-carrying members of that honourable and historic organization known as the Anti-Destination League.

@bluewaterplumbingdrainco.7620 2 жыл бұрын

You said you did everything this truck was capable of doing….. except towing??? That’s a trucks primary purpose lol

@BrianMakse 2 жыл бұрын

lol have you seen the stats on towing with half tons lol

@chelove5447 3 жыл бұрын

The E-Torque pulley bearing is faulty. Mine seized, snapped, started alternator fire. I was number 50+ back order list. 60 days in the shop. FCA/Jack Powell Dealership down-played and claimed “no indication of fire” and ‘belt smoke’ on repair invoice despite customer fire photos. Stay away from E-Torque and FCA’ Ram E-Torque hemi-engine combo!

@noads7175 3 жыл бұрын

DONT BUY with torque, terrible mpg I get average 12mpg mixed 50% city 50% highway. Go read on ram forums on terrible mpg on ram with etorque.

@BrianMakse 3 жыл бұрын

I get terrible mileage because I drive for pleasure, not efficiency.

@starmc26 3 жыл бұрын

Have read the forums, watched the videos... Majority says gas mpg and performance is better, what are you smokin' ?

@dkh1020 Жыл бұрын

@@starmc26 I've been living with E-torque in a 5.7 hemi ram for 3 years and I can tell you from experience, This system does nothing to help my MPG. E- Torque is a scam and when it breaks,, you will have to take out a second mortgage on your house to fix it.

@starmc26 Жыл бұрын

@@dkh1020 yeah ok, youd have to have the EXACT same truck, and weight, just without e-torque in order to compare, but you're too dumb to know that. The rest of us will take the ENGINEERS, and PROFESSIONALS word that it is better.

@ginakerry2588 3 жыл бұрын

There's A LOT to say and explain about the eTorque system. Probly could be a 20, minute video. BUT, I've only gotten thru 4 mins OF THIS VIDEO and the TITLE SHOULD BE "Ram Air Suspension". What a hack. C'mon man! Really? I'm out!

@BrianMakse 3 жыл бұрын

Hope the door didn't hit you on your way out!