Is Fire Possible in a Vacuum?

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Cody'sLab

Cody'sLab

7 жыл бұрын

I attempt to set fire to various substances in a near vacuum environment.
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@scottmanley
@scottmanley 7 жыл бұрын
This is great, now we can cite this video whenever movies and games show us burning wreckage on the surface of Mars. Now, if you fancy playing with electricity - you should try running a Jacobs ladder and reducing pressure. My prediction is the sparks rise because of convection, but as the atmosphere pressure drops the sparking will convect more slowly and eventually you'll just end up with glowing electrodes. For bonus points, replace the air with a noble gas and show the colours.
@alekch.4185
@alekch.4185 7 жыл бұрын
Scott Manley get this up so Cody sees it
@TristanBomber
@TristanBomber 7 жыл бұрын
Are you going to promote Cody's Lab on your channel?
@xeomorpher
@xeomorpher 7 жыл бұрын
Scott Manley the sparks travel through a conductive channel of ions in the air. I doubt one would form in a vacuum and the Jacobs ladder would just stop working.
@_trupples
@_trupples 7 жыл бұрын
Scott Manley wouldn't the conductive metal case of the vacuum chamber interfere with the experiment?
@_trupples
@_trupples 7 жыл бұрын
xeomorpher so you're saying electric arcs are impossible in space? couldn't electrons just jump the void if there was a high enough voltage differential?
@DemoniteBL
@DemoniteBL 7 жыл бұрын
20 seconds in and he's already doing something. Thank you for not being one of those channels that like to talk for 5 minutes before they do anything (not just science related, literally anything).
@johndoe3804
@johndoe3804 4 жыл бұрын
If Cody just talked for 30 minutes id still watch
@DarkDrai
@DarkDrai 4 жыл бұрын
This guy knows what's up.
@matt8264
@matt8264 2 жыл бұрын
Proof we never went to space. Did your head just explode at my comment? Waiting for the NASA fan boys to come it’s rescue.
@serenedreams3745
@serenedreams3745 Жыл бұрын
There was a physics guy from Holland years ago, who offered a reward to anyone to prove rockets can traverse space in a vacuum.
@ElSheepodoggo
@ElSheepodoggo Жыл бұрын
For real.
@ffemtrich2986
@ffemtrich2986 7 жыл бұрын
As a Fireman we never refer to the "fire triangle" like taught in grade school. We refer to it as the "fire tetrahedron" because of the chemical reaction that is needed between the other three parts. We even have extinguishing agents like the old Halons and purple K that their main idea is to break the reaction not just separating one of the main parts. Awesome videos!!
@lonestarst8
@lonestarst8 6 жыл бұрын
FFEMTRICH halon and purple k separate one of the three parts breaking the chemical reaction...oxygen. halon displaces it, ppk forms a powdery layer preventing oxygen from penetrating. Both are designed and used to separate 1 of the 3 parts of a fire triangle...oxygen.
@rarebeeph1783
@rarebeeph1783 7 жыл бұрын
4:21 One of those clumps of gunpowder on the left side just said "screw the system, I'm running away and becoming a helicopter."
@jacklee9538
@jacklee9538 3 жыл бұрын
It was a rocket without the rocket
@JimGriffOne
@JimGriffOne 7 жыл бұрын
I'm curious if items in a pure oxygen atmosphere at 21% of atmospheric pressure will burn as well as they will in normal air and pressure.
@zachburke8906
@zachburke8906 7 жыл бұрын
why 21% specifically?
@evmorfiakostaki5062
@evmorfiakostaki5062 7 жыл бұрын
its the percentage of oxygen in the atmosphere
@polywild3
@polywild3 7 жыл бұрын
zach burke thats the percentage of oxygen in the atmosphere
@JimGriffOne
@JimGriffOne 7 жыл бұрын
Because air comprises of 21% oxygen, 78% Nitrogen and ~1% other trace gases. I presumed that having a pure oxygen at 21% of atmospheric pressure would give roughly the same amount of oxygen to burning items as it does in normal air at normal pressure. It's probably different, though, since nitrogen has a different density than oxygen.
@zachburke8906
@zachburke8906 7 жыл бұрын
Learn something new every day! Thanks guys!
@sharatparimi6193
@sharatparimi6193 7 жыл бұрын
Cody, my PhD was thermites and metal combustion reactions, so I have an amusing snippet. If you want to see a metal burn in vacuum, you should pick something like porous silicon + NaClO4. The reason thermites do not burn is because the reaction proceeds by metal oxide decomposition - oxygen - which then burns. The oxygen expands very soon, and fails to sustain combustion. That's why the lump thermite burnt - it could trap oxygen due to its density. Rocket candy burns in the gas phase, so it is difficult for it to burn at low pressures - the gases diffuse away very fast. Message me to discuss more combustion.
@BothHands1
@BothHands1 7 жыл бұрын
The second ball of thermite was only different in that it had no moisture or trapped gasses in it that could expand. I do not believe it was "lump thermite" any more than the first pile. The first pile didn't burn because trapped water vapor had more room to expand, stealing energy from the reaction. Thermite needs an enormously high temperature to stay ignited, and the cooling caused by the energy being lost to expansion is what halted the reaction.
@jaimeduncan6167
@jaimeduncan6167 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the confirmation. It will be nice to see your suggestion in action.
@DANGJOS
@DANGJOS 5 жыл бұрын
I did not know this. Thanks for the info!
@jskratnyarlathotep8411
@jskratnyarlathotep8411 5 жыл бұрын
so heating more candy in close proximity should eventually ignite it in a vacuum?
@inostrantevia
@inostrantevia 3 жыл бұрын
It's interesting if paper soaked say, potassium chlorate, would burn. Or some energetic polymer like GAP or simply celluloid.
@Jotto999
@Jotto999 7 жыл бұрын
0:55 It's as if the chicken starts laughing at Cody's suggestion of "safety first".
@KeystoneScience
@KeystoneScience 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Cody, what kind of laser is that?
@jasonwalker4610
@jasonwalker4610 6 жыл бұрын
Keystone Science A blue one.
@userequaltoNull
@userequaltoNull 6 жыл бұрын
A big one. I'd guess about 1-2 watts. They sell them comercially. Pretty expensive, though.
@judecrooker6618
@judecrooker6618 5 жыл бұрын
3-5 Watts.
@DANGJOS
@DANGJOS 3 жыл бұрын
I'm curious of the wavelength
@ivankurta1033
@ivankurta1033 3 жыл бұрын
@@userequaltoNull 8 watts he said somwhere
@RodolpheGiammatteo
@RodolpheGiammatteo 7 жыл бұрын
you should try in an other atmosphere without oxygen
@Ant0ine64
@Ant0ine64 7 жыл бұрын
Rodolphe Giammatteo j'y ai pensé à cette idée, je pense que cela fonctionnerait pour les combustions ou le comburant est déjà présent dans le combustible
@jesondag
@jesondag 7 жыл бұрын
This. How about 100% nitrogen at atmospheric pressure.
@superalvin7208
@superalvin7208 7 жыл бұрын
ruski blyat
@dots5641
@dots5641 7 жыл бұрын
Rodolphe Giammatteo ahem* a vacuum already has so little oxygen to do anything with
@SecularGeek
@SecularGeek 7 жыл бұрын
Oops. I should have checked the other replies before posting above. This one is essentially the same as mine. Sorry!
@drmaudio
@drmaudio 7 жыл бұрын
I'm quite surprised. I would have expected all the self-oxidizing compounds to burn.
@KainYusanagi
@KainYusanagi 7 жыл бұрын
They would if the chamber was smaller and the gasses could fill the chamber enough to provide their own pressure, pretty sure.
@Briebabcock8052
@Briebabcock8052 7 жыл бұрын
Gun Sense (drmaudio) Basic science, there must be pressure.
@MrArcticShadow
@MrArcticShadow 7 жыл бұрын
So if he packed that rocket candy fuel in a small pipe or a straw, it would have ignited?
@Thorgon-Cross
@Thorgon-Cross 7 жыл бұрын
Yes R-candy in a pipe would still burn and make thrust. As proven by NASA using SRBs in space semi commonly.
@DChestHair
@DChestHair 7 жыл бұрын
That is why he suggests the fire triangle into a square including pressure, which seems to be a key part of combustion. Very interesting and quite astounding.
@ptykiller
@ptykiller 7 жыл бұрын
Holy crap Cody! You are getting REAL close to 1Mil Subs dude!! Grats dude, you do such a good job making entertaining and educational content I share with my kids regularly.
@robertp1213
@robertp1213 7 жыл бұрын
1 min 35 seconds in; That's a really interesting way of making paper art
@wilsonmandudebro
@wilsonmandudebro 3 жыл бұрын
1:35
@derstreber2
@derstreber2 7 жыл бұрын
+Cody'sLab I read a short story by Robert A. Heinlein called "Misfit". Its about crew of men going to an asteroid to set up a small base on its surface. While on the spaceship, on the way to their destination, a portion of the crew experience some space sickness and end up losing their lunch. The way they decide to clean their uniforms is by hanging them inside the airlock and expose them to space for a couple of minutes. This removes all of the water from the vomit, so when they bring the uniforms inside, all they need to do is beat the dust that remains out of the cloth. As soon as I read this I wondered if this would actually work. So... anyway, just an idea... put'n it out there... I don't know if you would want to use actual barf in any experiment, perhaps you could use mud instead. Of Course I don't know if stomach acid would behave any differently or not.
@TiagoTiagoT
@TiagoTiagoT 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe babyfood could be used in place of barf?
@lajoswinkler
@lajoswinkler 7 жыл бұрын
It depends on the duration and whether it's exposed to sunlight (and how far away is the Sun) or not. Exposed to sunlight in Earth's orbit, frozen (because it would partially freeze) water in barf would take some short time to sublimate away. In shadow and insulated from contact with materials heated by the Sun, it would remain frozen indefinitively
@Pygar2
@Pygar2 7 жыл бұрын
Worth a try...
@BothHands1
@BothHands1 7 жыл бұрын
It would work - in fact that vacuum chamber he's using is a freeze dryer. It specifically uses the vacuum to dry food products.
@HidekiShinichi
@HidekiShinichi 6 жыл бұрын
thats basically how liofilisation works (astronauts ice cream) jist that water is frozen there
@MrArcticShadow
@MrArcticShadow 7 жыл бұрын
Why is there still gravity in a vacuum? Wouldn't the gravity particles just get sucked out along with the air? :P
@theCodyReeder
@theCodyReeder 7 жыл бұрын
Well see gravity particles are rather sticky and very difficult to remove; fortunately they have a fear of heights and will let go during a fall.
@amicloud_yt
@amicloud_yt 7 жыл бұрын
Gravitons and graviolies aren't affected by vacuum
@Nothing_serious
@Nothing_serious 7 жыл бұрын
MrArcticShadow Because gravity is a lie and the earth is flat.
@israelRaizer
@israelRaizer 7 жыл бұрын
Can gravity particles stick to teflon? I think so because otherwise our pans would be flying around...
@amicloud_yt
@amicloud_yt 7 жыл бұрын
Israel Raizer Cruvinel Well graviolies (similar to raviolies) stick quite well, but the gravitons slip right off. And as everyone knows, one without the other is pointless.
@jansenart0
@jansenart0 6 жыл бұрын
Fascinating results! This has changed my preconceptions about vacuum physiochemestry!
@Azmodie1
@Azmodie1 7 жыл бұрын
Just want to say Cody I love seeing all the content you are putting out there. Awesome work man really good to watch
@x9x9x9x9x9
@x9x9x9x9x9 7 жыл бұрын
Sweet! This is something I kinda requested back when you did the explosions in the chamber.
@x9x9x9x9x9
@x9x9x9x9x9 7 жыл бұрын
Patreon. We get to watch the videos before everyone else in a lot of cases.
@soweliLuna
@soweliLuna 7 жыл бұрын
x9x9x9x9x9 how?
@soweliLuna
@soweliLuna 7 жыл бұрын
not bad content btw, you should start uploading again
@x9x9x9x9x9
@x9x9x9x9x9 7 жыл бұрын
Dr. Grenade Patreon is basically a monthly fee to get priority to videos and a few other benefits. Also I am a little confused. who should start uploading again?
@hey7328
@hey7328 7 жыл бұрын
I reckon the gunpowder would have burned better as a very fine powder, so that the gasses are not let out from between the spaces of the grains
@theCodyReeder
@theCodyReeder 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting hypothesis and I may test it sometime (particularly with the thermite), I'm sure most anything to increase burn rate would help but multiplying just about any number by another that is really close to zero still results in close to zero right?
@juanbrits3002
@juanbrits3002 7 жыл бұрын
Try pumping in different levels of oxygen and see what difference this would make.
@bepsi6204
@bepsi6204 7 жыл бұрын
Gotta update that profile pic
@dylanzrim1011
@dylanzrim1011 7 жыл бұрын
hey7328 the gasses would only expand faster
@jackbrereton6581
@jackbrereton6581 7 жыл бұрын
hey7328 good idea
@griffn1
@griffn1 7 жыл бұрын
Great Video Cody, and congrats on your soon to be 1 million subscribers. Awesome channel, keep it up. Your format shows everyone how science cab be applied practically at home and you don't have to be in some fancy lab.
@tylerjb1017
@tylerjb1017 7 жыл бұрын
It's so awesome to see your channel grow so fast!! Good job Cody :)
@Legendaryboy98
@Legendaryboy98 7 жыл бұрын
I learn so much more from these videos than from school
@juliolara1899
@juliolara1899 7 жыл бұрын
Can you drink liquified ice?
@theCodyReeder
@theCodyReeder 7 жыл бұрын
depends on the ice
@michaeldporcelli
@michaeldporcelli 7 жыл бұрын
Cody'sLab ice XVI?
@CarrotSlat
@CarrotSlat 7 жыл бұрын
I choose sodium hypochlorite ice.
@ericnguyen7594
@ericnguyen7594 7 жыл бұрын
LMFAOOOO
@zeeqz
@zeeqz 7 жыл бұрын
leddit armie?
@andrewkovnat
@andrewkovnat 7 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the extra clips at the end of the videos. Keep up the good work, Cody!
@iqtestsandanimatedsolution9464
@iqtestsandanimatedsolution9464 7 жыл бұрын
Great video as always!!! The importance pressure for the chain reaction was new to me.
@jason-ge5nr
@jason-ge5nr 7 жыл бұрын
Ah.... the gimp was acting up towards the end of your demonstration
@hannesdendoncker959
@hannesdendoncker959 7 жыл бұрын
How come there's a comment posted 9 hours ago? This was uploaded 30s ago!?! KZfaq pls...
@johnw3443
@johnw3443 7 жыл бұрын
Hannes Dendoncker Patrons from patrion get it first. forgive my spelling lol 😂
@x9x9x9x9x9
@x9x9x9x9x9 7 жыл бұрын
The people who support Cody on Patreon get priority. Sometimes thats 2 days sometimes thats just a few hours. But heres the good news no one from patreon ever leaves the stupid "first" comment.
@hey7328
@hey7328 7 жыл бұрын
yeah this one was out last night on patreon
@hannesdendoncker959
@hannesdendoncker959 7 жыл бұрын
Alright, thanks guys :D
@Psillocybe
@Psillocybe 7 жыл бұрын
An awesome video Cody! Very informative and amazing production :applaud
@pieterwiekens2313
@pieterwiekens2313 7 жыл бұрын
cool vid Cody. I did not expect that! it's so cool to watch your experiments and explanations. thanks dude
@dillonhofsommer5648
@dillonhofsommer5648 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Cody, Great video. is it possible for you to back fill your vacuum chamber? it might be interesting to try these again in different atmospheres like nitrogen, CO2 or methane! It could help you decide whether it's pressure or oxygen that's the predominant factor in halting combustion.
@falaicha
@falaicha 7 жыл бұрын
That's a good idea on how to test his proposal of changing fire triangle to square.
@ElectraFlarefire
@ElectraFlarefire 7 жыл бұрын
I'd suggest something like Argon. Easy and cheap to get. And unlike Nitrogen or CO2 won't be part of the reaction. (Many of these high energy combustion reactions strip the O2 from CO2 or create Nitrogen oxide products because they are burnt in air)
@doublebubleguy12
@doublebubleguy12 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah using an inert gas would be great, I think Helium would be a better choice though since its easier to acquire and cheaper.
@TiagoTiagoT
@TiagoTiagoT 7 жыл бұрын
Filling the thing with something glammable like methane and then trying to light stuff on fire inside doesn't seem very safe...
@pirobot668beta
@pirobot668beta 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe back-fill with methane and inject a tiny stream of oxygen to make an inside-out fire!
@Timothious_Maximus
@Timothious_Maximus 7 жыл бұрын
i wonder if the gunpowder would burn under pressure but in an oxygen-free gas like nitrogen. if the nitrate present in the gunpowder itself does indeed break down into oxygen to feed the combustion and your theory about the gasses expanding too fast in vacuum is accurate, then it should ignite under the pressure of any gas, correct?
@jameskoh3463
@jameskoh3463 3 жыл бұрын
I doubt that There’s a concept called partial pressure where you only take into account the pressure a certain gas contributes to the atmospheric pressure In this case the partial pressure will be pretty much negligible just like in vacuum Either way the oxygen will have been dispersed into the whole chamber so quickly that they couldn’t sustain any combustion
@Timothious_Maximus
@Timothious_Maximus 3 жыл бұрын
@@jameskoh3463 that seems like sound logic, perhaps you're right. it's very possible it would dilute amongst the other gasses too quickly to work.
@DANGJOS
@DANGJOS 3 жыл бұрын
@@jameskoh3463 I don't agree with that. Partial pressure would apply to a combustion reaction that requires oxygen in the air to burn. However, I'm pretty sure the OP is referring to the reactions that have their own oxidizer. If outside pressure is what's needed to confined the oxygen gas produced, then any inert gas should suffice. It won't expand rapidly because there is pressure this time.
@TheFarmacySeedsNetwork
@TheFarmacySeedsNetwork 7 жыл бұрын
another killer cody's lab experiment! thanks for sharing Cody!
@HashlandXXX
@HashlandXXX 7 жыл бұрын
Congratulations Cody, that must be a first for something. Your diligence paid off.
@locouk
@locouk 7 жыл бұрын
Would Logan's exploding paste work in a vacuum? Love the Chronos footage, thanks for the video.
@theCodyReeder
@theCodyReeder 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting idea! my guess is no, but this is defiantly going on the list of things to test.
@stormbase3202
@stormbase3202 7 жыл бұрын
Cody'sLab You should try to ignite somthing (like a candle) under atmospheric pressure, while its burning you start to pressurize it. Might be intresting to watch.
@badassestman
@badassestman 7 жыл бұрын
Green Silver I'm pretty sure it wouldn't it doesn't have its own oxidizer but sincet has iodine that might become elemental again
@Considerers
@Considerers 7 жыл бұрын
It will go on the list, no matter how reluctant. Cody will make it happen. (not making fun of you for mispelling, just thought the mispell made for an amusing sentence)
@happyorangejuce
@happyorangejuce 7 жыл бұрын
"defiantly going on the list" lol.
@mrjohhhnnnyyy5797
@mrjohhhnnnyyy5797 7 жыл бұрын
I like how the birds interrupted you at the end of the video. "Hey! Enough of that!" :D
@ppsarrakis
@ppsarrakis 7 жыл бұрын
That slow motion burn in the end was GOLD.
@robs7180
@robs7180 7 жыл бұрын
Almost 1 Million subscribers buddy ! Well deserved, great videos !
@lucky43113
@lucky43113 7 жыл бұрын
I have an idea @Cody'sLab could you get a bottle of gold plating solution (it's sold on amazon) and extract the gold out of it I'm curious how much is actually in it I know it would be very little
@OriginalUnknown2
@OriginalUnknown2 7 жыл бұрын
Could it be the rocket candy doesn't burn because due to the vacuum the energy it usually uses to sustain the combustion is spent on the expansion of the gases to fill the near-vacuumed chamber? So it's not any problem with combustion just where the energy goes rather?
@theCodyReeder
@theCodyReeder 7 жыл бұрын
I think that is exactly it.
@RobertMeijboom
@RobertMeijboom 7 жыл бұрын
Cody'sLab Hi Cody, can you make a simple solid rocket motor our of rocket candy and test that in a vacuum? because these burn on the inside it is possible to maintain some pressure in the motor while the outside is still a vacuum. best regards, Robert
@jacewalton6677
@jacewalton6677 7 жыл бұрын
Cody'sLab, could you do an different mixture of Rocket candy, adjust the mixture to be ideal for low pressures more oxidizer? (up the ratio) contain it in a tube, like a rocket fuselage?
@BothHands1
@BothHands1 7 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, I just made a post very similar to this one! My thoughts exactly. @ Jace Walton - the presence of oxygen is not the problem, but rather the fact that things cool as they expand. With less pressure, and therefore more room to expand, the reaction is cooled too quickly to maintain ignition. While the laser is on the substrate, it does oxidize and burn, but the reaction doesn't propagate because there's not enough heat remaining to allow the oxygen to do any further oxidizing.
@nutman411
@nutman411 7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting take on it. Got me thinking. I would like him to try to burn the rocket candy remains post vacuum test
@kotori87
@kotori87 7 жыл бұрын
I've often heard discussion of the "fire Tetrahedron", with the fourth point being the chain reaction itself. This is taught in shipboard firefighting as one method of extinguishing fires: certain extinguishing agents disrupt the combustion reaction, giving crewmen time to cool down/break up/suffocate/etc. a fire that is otherwise unapproachable due to heat or hazards. As you've seen, a vacuum interrupts that continuous chain reaction. While individual pieces may burn, it isn't enough to spread to other pieces of the fuel.
@SusanAmberBruce
@SusanAmberBruce 7 жыл бұрын
The most interesting experiment I have seen from you Cody, I especially like what you said about the fire square.
@SG-jv5zi
@SG-jv5zi 3 жыл бұрын
Bold prediction: the sun is not burning gas (But don't ask me for what it really is...I have no idea.)
@jasondoe2596
@jasondoe2596 7 жыл бұрын
I was surprised thermite could ignite so easily with the laser - just how powerful is that thing?! oO
@experimente9912
@experimente9912 7 жыл бұрын
Jason Doe He used magnesium powder instead of aluminium powder. Magnesium thermite is quite easy to ignite. I even managed it to ignite with visco fuse.
@jasondoe2596
@jasondoe2596 7 жыл бұрын
Experimente 99 interesting, thanks.
@attilakiss3786
@attilakiss3786 7 жыл бұрын
This was really amazing and a very good demonstration, complete and scientifically sound. Thank you!
@Mukeshmiktecrep
@Mukeshmiktecrep 7 жыл бұрын
Nice find Cody ....... Great. That means everything which is confined and dense burns faster.
@jasonhudson1805
@jasonhudson1805 7 жыл бұрын
On this episode of "Does it Vacuum?" Explosives.
@andrewkovnat
@andrewkovnat 7 жыл бұрын
Hah! Didn't expect that to happen! I'm referring to him knowing Scott Manley.
@andrewkovnat
@andrewkovnat 4 жыл бұрын
@Papa Legba Then that would make you a paranoid denier of science and conclusions based on observations and reason.
@andrewkovnat
@andrewkovnat 4 жыл бұрын
@Papa Legba Holy shit this is too rich. But please, explain to me why you think that Scott doesn't think that those laws apply in space? He talks about nothing but just that. Burning fuel turns the energy stored in the propellent's chemical bonds into heat and motion. If you don't buy it then I don't know what kind of answer you're looking for, since that guy spends an obscene amount of time talking about these things, in great detail. Whoever told you that obviously didn't take the time to use their brain.
@abbysapples1225
@abbysapples1225 7 жыл бұрын
This video came out great Cody, as was enjoyable to view. I know I made a negative comment on a video you used this laser in the past. The science you did was great in that video, but the light from the laser made a massive glare on the glass. I could not see what you were doing at that time. I was super disappointed when that happened. In this video it is clear as day, perfect job. Great work, as always!!
@hertz1984
@hertz1984 7 жыл бұрын
best video ever! TY Cody!!
@MPflugga
@MPflugga 7 жыл бұрын
8:43 "In the vacuum, there's nothing there" : that's quite true :p
@Jumpbaseone
@Jumpbaseone 7 жыл бұрын
You should make a Tripod for your Laser, so it doesn't wiggle around
@MonteFleming
@MonteFleming 7 жыл бұрын
That the black powder didn't burn makes sense, but I'm quite surprised that the rocket candy didn't stay lit. Fascinating. I'm also surprised that there were enough volatiles in the Fe2O3 to keep it from burning before you cooked them out. And I'm very impressed that you were able to get the thermite reaction to be self-sustaining. Nice work.
@seebradrun
@seebradrun 7 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos!
@ethanwild3301
@ethanwild3301 7 жыл бұрын
How powerful is your laser Cody pls replay
@tohyongsheng3406
@tohyongsheng3406 7 жыл бұрын
Ethan Wild u can replay yourself
@bellowingmoonshine3975
@bellowingmoonshine3975 7 жыл бұрын
Toh Yong Sheng reply?
@RodyDavis
@RodyDavis 7 жыл бұрын
What's a link to buy that laser you use to start the fires?
@alecwhatshisname5170
@alecwhatshisname5170 7 жыл бұрын
Rody Davis probably from wickedlasers[dot]com. they don't deliver to the us anymore.
@joechief2456
@joechief2456 7 жыл бұрын
Based on the shape of the dot I'm guessing self built. You can make half watt violet lasers out of some Blu Ray drives if you know what you're doing. If you don't, I would strongly recommend not doing it.
@RodyDavis
@RodyDavis 7 жыл бұрын
I have a broken ps3 maybe I'll give it a try. Thanks guys
@lajoswinkler
@lajoswinkler 7 жыл бұрын
If you need people commenting here to "get you a link to buy a fire starting laser", then you should not operate any laser at all cause you'll be a danger to yourself and others. Such lasers are so powerful that even diffused reflection on a wall WILL injure your eye, and the smallest mistake made will destroy part of your retina. This is not a case of "it might". IT WILL. Do not buy those things before being thoroughly educated on optics and electromagnetism. Buy a 5 mW laser pointer instead.
@superdrizzle7342
@superdrizzle7342 7 жыл бұрын
Relax dude, just dont point it in your eye youll be fine.
@cody-4821
@cody-4821 7 жыл бұрын
Cool video man! I enjoy this channel so much :]
@devon2481
@devon2481 7 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your videos, Thank you!
@LamirLakantry
@LamirLakantry 7 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be a fire triangular-based-pyramid instead of a fire square? With two data points, you have a line between them, right? One dimension. With three date points, you have a triangle, right? Two dimensions. If you add in another data point, you get a triangular-based-pyramid, right? Three dimensions. Maybe I'm going about this wrong.
@TiagoTiagoT
@TiagoTiagoT 7 жыл бұрын
A tetrahedron? Yeah, I can see the appeal of that.
@lajoswinkler
@lajoswinkler 7 жыл бұрын
Fire tetrahedrons are a thing. The fourth thing is chain reaction, for which a confinement must exist, something Cody sees as pressure, but it's not pressure.
@Teth47
@Teth47 7 жыл бұрын
2:19 Can't have too much disturbsion!
@CarrotSlat
@CarrotSlat 7 жыл бұрын
That black powder part is fascinating. Great video all around.
@SteveFrenchWoodNStuff
@SteveFrenchWoodNStuff 7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting stuff. As always.
@SuperStruct
@SuperStruct 7 жыл бұрын
Try a tiny bit of flash powder and see if it will ignite as a whole in a vacuum
@RonJohn63
@RonJohn63 7 жыл бұрын
You should write a paper on the Fire Square.
@kistuszek
@kistuszek 7 жыл бұрын
What for? Science is blowing stuff up AND recording your findings. In ancient times people recorded it with pen and paper, but there is nothing special about it being in writing. This video is a recording of the experiment and it is also published... So its kind of a "paper" if you think about it. (just, the reviewers here are sub par usually ;)
@RonJohn63
@RonJohn63 7 жыл бұрын
kistuszek _What for?_ Because getting a paper published would be a feather in his academic cap, and nice padding for is CV. It's also good experience.
@aeroscience9834
@aeroscience9834 4 жыл бұрын
RonJohn63 why? I’d never even heard of “fire triangle” until this video. Apparently it’s used to teach kids, who would waste time writing a paper trying to correct it
@ElSheepodoggo
@ElSheepodoggo Жыл бұрын
Subscribing exactly because of what top comment said, and obviously because the content is great. Keep it up, man.
@messitup
@messitup 5 жыл бұрын
Love it! answered lots of questions.
@kamyaramjadi8020
@kamyaramjadi8020 7 жыл бұрын
I wonder how they would react in an inert atmosphere like Argon, or in CO2.
@KainYusanagi
@KainYusanagi 7 жыл бұрын
Would gaseous ignition work if you had a small enough space so the gasses could fill the area and build pressure? After all, it's said that guns work in space, after all.
@theCodyReeder
@theCodyReeder 7 жыл бұрын
yes, in fact I've done it many times in other videos.
@user21XXL
@user21XXL 7 жыл бұрын
could you try this low preassure test on some other primary explosives (Ag2C2, PbN6 for example) or molecules with high oxygen content like nitroglycerine or guncotton
@KainYusanagi
@KainYusanagi 7 жыл бұрын
***** That's what I figured and assumed, but thank you for confirming!
@seanehle8323
@seanehle8323 7 жыл бұрын
What a great collection of surprising results! Cody, you are a quintessential scientist, and I am humbled to know I don't match up. I probably made more false predictions watching this video than any other. :) This is why I love physics. There are still surprises around every corner.
@trentong1113
@trentong1113 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Cody awesome channel. Have you ever thought about doing a series of experiments where you go more in depth with the explanations of whats going on step by step? I am a chemistry student, but just starting out, and these experiments sometimes seem like they have so much going on at one time and watching the experiments are of course super cool but a more in depth explanation would be lovely so I could learn myself and maybe attain a working knowledge of the world around me. Again awesome channel keep it up!
@AnakinSkyobiliviator
@AnakinSkyobiliviator 7 жыл бұрын
What animal was causing all that ruckus?
@Rockzilla1122
@Rockzilla1122 6 жыл бұрын
probably one of his birds
@RoyceBarber
@RoyceBarber 6 жыл бұрын
A living experiment. I mean a "pet". Okay both.
@xgozulx
@xgozulx 7 жыл бұрын
what's the power of your laser? Really interesting video btw
@intheshitter
@intheshitter 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, great experiment. Got my brain ticking. Subscribed :)
@Codebreakerblue
@Codebreakerblue 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I did not know this was this difficult.
@ChristieNel
@ChristieNel 7 жыл бұрын
Does a tree falling in a vacuum not make a sound when not observed?
@tetrabromobisphenol
@tetrabromobisphenol 6 жыл бұрын
It does make for a decade's worth of conferences in philosophy, where the answer will inevitably be "it doesn't matter, nothing matters anyway, we're all figments of our own imagination".
@SpydersByte
@SpydersByte 5 жыл бұрын
@tetrabromobisphenol lulz.
@xWood4000
@xWood4000 7 жыл бұрын
Yes if the oxidizer is in the fuel.
@joecool2878
@joecool2878 7 жыл бұрын
Great experiment
@80amnesia
@80amnesia 7 жыл бұрын
nice experiment, your videos are great!
@iainloder6131
@iainloder6131 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Cody, an idea for another vacuum chamber experiment is to put a Newtons Cradle in it.
@Argoon1981
@Argoon1981 7 жыл бұрын
I assume it will still work because of newtons third law of motion, and because rockets do work in space and it is almost a perfect vacuum.
@iainloder6131
@iainloder6131 7 жыл бұрын
But is might go for longer as there is no air to transmit sound to.
@MuzikBike
@MuzikBike 7 жыл бұрын
Since you seem to enjoy eating insane stuff (in safe doses obviously), could you maybe try to confirm the apparent sweet taste of lead acetate lead sugar? Also, compare it to normal table sugar.
7 жыл бұрын
Pure Cody. A simple experiment, some would say with a predictible outcome, until he tries a baked thermite. My mind was blown a bit (pun intended). And all of this is well commented and explained. Love it, Cody, keep at it!
@NoahThatsWack
@NoahThatsWack 7 жыл бұрын
Seamless cuts. Pretty nice.
@Kahitar
@Kahitar 7 жыл бұрын
Test a model rocket in the vacuum chamber, pleeease!
@GamingAmbienceLive
@GamingAmbienceLive 6 жыл бұрын
*would take NASA $2,000,000 to conduct the same experiment*
@tetrabromobisphenol
@tetrabromobisphenol 6 жыл бұрын
And 5 years, 3 environmental studies, 6 employee lawsuits, and 2 Congressional reviews.
@noname-nw3yd
@noname-nw3yd 5 жыл бұрын
this was their first and final experiment, the moment they knew it was impossible
@samevans8922
@samevans8922 5 жыл бұрын
Well nasa would use actual rocket engines and fuel
@yahushaking4367
@yahushaking4367 5 жыл бұрын
they are taking 32 billions a year from tax money and laughing in our faces, spending the money in whores and booze.
@jeffreyblack666
@jeffreyblack666 5 жыл бұрын
Probably because they would test it in 0g as well, which requires launching things to space if you want more than 90 seconds.
@KrazeeCain
@KrazeeCain 7 жыл бұрын
This is great, and makes the science behind the tuning of internal combustion engines make much more sense. The fire square needs to be a thing.
@romwil
@romwil 7 жыл бұрын
Cody: great stuff as usual! Have you considered using a mild centrifugal effect to see if you could replace atmospheric pressure with that to retain particulate proximity? Perhaps with a remote trigger glow bulb to attempt ignition within the chamber.
@xWood4000
@xWood4000 7 жыл бұрын
Conclusion: use thermite in vacuum SRB:s.
@forgineer2278
@forgineer2278 7 жыл бұрын
Try mercury fulminate or cesium in water
@jonatan01i
@jonatan01i 4 жыл бұрын
I think that it's not directly pressure that counts but to having a medium that transfers the heat.
@CatalystChronos
@CatalystChronos 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Cody amazing videos and by far my favorite channel!! was wondering if you could so some of these experiments safely in a compression chamber instead. For example seeing what paper and thermite would do at double atmosphere or something. Thank you and keep up the great work! :-)
@pedromourente1840
@pedromourente1840 7 жыл бұрын
100 views 30 seconds ago
@PromptedHawk
@PromptedHawk 7 жыл бұрын
Patrons had it for a while.
@doublefrogo9643
@doublefrogo9643 7 жыл бұрын
Hussam Askar 242,107
@biguprochester
@biguprochester 7 жыл бұрын
So if there's no combustion in a vacuum how did they get back from the moon?
@Goodwalker720
@Goodwalker720 7 жыл бұрын
Chris young I assume the nozzle of the rocket increases the pressure allowing combustion to continue. If Cody had packed the thermite, gunpowder or candy into a confined space it might have done better.
@narutohokage20
@narutohokage20 7 жыл бұрын
Chris young oxidisers and enough pressure.
@KainYusanagi
@KainYusanagi 7 жыл бұрын
Pre-pressurized fuel ingredients that contain a large volume of oxygen or other oxidant in a large combustion chamber that then vents through a nozzle to provide directed high velocity propulsion. The pre-pressurized component isn't needed to be pressurized for the combustion to take effect- it's just done that way for maximum storage capacity to minimum space consumed.
@consumerjtc5835
@consumerjtc5835 7 жыл бұрын
what do you mean?
@biguprochester
@biguprochester 7 жыл бұрын
I probably should have just googled a silly question like that
@yqafree
@yqafree 7 жыл бұрын
This video is great science right here!
@lajoswinkler
@lajoswinkler 7 жыл бұрын
In the case of thermite, I wouldn't call it pressure. It's confinement. It's actually heat being retained by the atmosphere, but in vacuum it's being removed by rapid convection - hot products are being expelled away. In atmospheric pressure, gases don't spread out fast enough and a lot less heat is lost. Gas producing exothermic reactions are smothered with the loss of atmosphere or don't appear if vacuum already exists. Those that don't produce gas can be just insulated and confined. No binder needed even in weightlessness. A quantity of thermite in a thick, cored asbestos brick with an asbestos plug, would sustain the heat and there would be enough activation energy for a chain reaction to occur. So it's a bit complicated set of factors that need to be examined for each reaction specifically. It's good you made this video.
@moiquiregardevideo
@moiquiregardevideo 7 жыл бұрын
Best scientific debunking video : burning needs 4 not 3 conditions. Every science college teachers should be tied up and forced to watch this video, Then, untied if they confess teaching lies.
@OzixiThrill
@OzixiThrill 7 жыл бұрын
Or maybe they just know wrong.
@SpydersByte
@SpydersByte 5 жыл бұрын
@Christian Gingras a little ridiculous to say they were "teaching lies", it's more the fact that "an atmosphere" is pretty much guaranteed here on earth, so it's going to be a given in any normal circumstance unless you're literally teaching astronauts, at which point I'm sure it comes into the discussion.
@Imaboss8ball
@Imaboss8ball 5 жыл бұрын
Well since there is no pressure the oxidizer would spread really quickly making the amount near the fuel insufficient for combustion. I bet if there was a lot more oxidizer per fuel it would burn. Or if it was mix much better
@jdrake33
@jdrake33 7 жыл бұрын
Just figured I'd let you know that some of this content was used in one of those "we didn't go to the moon" type videos. I thought it was funny. It was his only point for "thrust can't work in a vacuum", and so he used the gunpowder thing. XD
@AsymptoteInverse
@AsymptoteInverse 7 жыл бұрын
As soon as I can find a cheap steel pot or pressure cooker, I'm making a vacuum chamber. I've been wanting to do these kind of experiments for years, and you've inspired me to actually go through with it.
@Pygar2
@Pygar2 7 жыл бұрын
Get a paint pot.
@andyh7537
@andyh7537 7 жыл бұрын
Very cool, Cody! This explains why model rocket enthusiasts need to use balloons for confinement if they choose to use BP propellants for their parachute ejection charges, and why most folks have switched to piercing CO2 powerlets to get the necessary gas. :)
@loded25
@loded25 7 жыл бұрын
dude Flat earthers are using this video now. man they piss me off with taking shit out of context.
@marczeppieri9075
@marczeppieri9075 7 жыл бұрын
lmao how dare they use this video about combustion in a vacuum to debunk rockets in space which use combustion in a vacuum. Using rocket fuel and simulating conditions in outer space and specifically mars and other planets. Totally out of context man shit!
@loded25
@loded25 7 жыл бұрын
yes it is out of context when they leave out the last thing cody says lol 12:37 "what you really need is a case around it to catch those sparks and build pressure if your using it as a rocket lol what is it you think they do in space? internal combustion and throw the exhaust out the back. to every action there is an opposite reaction. picture it like throwing a ball in space the ball would go one way you would go the other.
@SpydersByte
@SpydersByte 5 жыл бұрын
@Critical Minded for someone using the name you're using you sure don't seem to be thinking critically. I don't need to rewrite everything @loded25 has already said, but it should be little more than common sense. Rockets aren't just burning tiny bits of fuel out in the vacuum of space, surely you don't think that's how rockets work do you??
@norma8686
@norma8686 7 жыл бұрын
I wonder, if we ever went to Mars, would guns work there since gun powder doesn't ignite?
@Pygar2
@Pygar2 7 жыл бұрын
The gun barrel holds in the pressure the reaction needs, so, yes.
@scifactorial5802
@scifactorial5802 7 жыл бұрын
It would work fine, also guns don't use gunpowder. They use mostly nitrocellulose with a proprietary blend of herbs and spices to get the desired properties.
@MrSimpsondennis
@MrSimpsondennis 7 жыл бұрын
the real question is, how would the bullet react under the different atmosphere. Also, Pygar, the barrel might hold the pressure, but it still needs to react with air/oxygen to build up that pressure...
@danielleao7251
@danielleao7251 7 жыл бұрын
there is oxigen traped inside the capsules with the gunpowder
@joelsmega123
@joelsmega123 7 жыл бұрын
A gun works like normal in space but the bullet doesnt travel as far
@stalkersas
@stalkersas 7 жыл бұрын
It seems like even the smallest amount of gas expands so much and so fast that it blows everything apart before it has any chance to ignite. Reminds me of the experiment in wich you can see the airflow created around high voltage electrodes with flower. Realy expected the rocket candy to burn, that's a frikin solid lump of verry well mixed fuel with an oxidant. Perhaps the nitrate decomposes and the oxygen gets sucked out by the vacuum from the molten mass? Also in vacuum things evaporate (or sublimate) at lower temperatures, potentialy lowering the maximum temperature the suggar mix can reach just enough to prevent full ignition. Maybe in the thermite, part of the iron formed molten iron evaporates, making enough gas to blow things apart, slowing the reaction down. This is so surprising, did not expect the vacuum to have such a huge impact. Fascinating :)
@DRcar4103
@DRcar4103 7 жыл бұрын
awsome video man! 2 thumbs up for you forsure! Did you do this all on your own buck?
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