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IS GEL TYPE STYLUS CLEANERS DESTROYING YOUR RECORDS?

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Ron Beaudry

Ron Beaudry

Күн бұрын

On this channel i give my opinion on how various record pressing sound, how they compare, also record reviews,and comments on hi fi gear.

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@truthhouse8
@truthhouse8 2 жыл бұрын
Once you cleaned with the liquid did it take care of the mistracking
@RocknRonni
@RocknRonni 2 жыл бұрын
Yes not the first time when I did it only a couple of strokes but when i did repeated strokes like I say in the video now my system sounds wonderful thanks for watching glad you enjoyed the video
@analoguecity3454
@analoguecity3454 Жыл бұрын
Months later I watch this video again to tell you your right! The first time I saw this video I commented that I used the gel for months with no problem, and it was true! But now a few months later , sure enough I experienced "mild mistracking"! I didn't have any "stylus fluid" and that time so I used "distilled water" on a stylus brush! I guess this is a "withdrawal " of my original statement! You were right!
@tonynewman1694
@tonynewman1694 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back Ron good to see a new video. Great viseo. I clean mine with a liquid cleaner.
@RocknRonni
@RocknRonni 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you bro
@truthhouse8
@truthhouse8 2 жыл бұрын
Ron what is the brand of liquid cleaner
@RocknRonni
@RocknRonni 2 жыл бұрын
@@truthhouse8 I got mine off of eBay there's a bunch of them and they all look similar this one has the sleeve City logo on it
@justinrun100
@justinrun100 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back Ron, it’s great to here from you. I missed watching your videos. Have a wonderful day
@RocknRonni
@RocknRonni 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Justin sorry I haven't been doing any videos got the house remodel done just before Thanksgiving and then Christmas and I I haven't really been buying many records either so but I'll try to make a few videos in the short-term appreciate you so much for watching
@justinrun100
@justinrun100 2 жыл бұрын
@@RocknRonni thank you again for videos. I stop those using my gel cleaner. I use the Hudson HiFi UV Stylus Cleaner. I looked at my stylus under a microscope. It works great. The Hudson is more affordable than the Flux HiFi cleaner. it does the same thing
@blackquicksandmusic2365
@blackquicksandmusic2365 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back Ron. Thank you for the very informational topic. Looking forward to more videos. Take care
@RocknRonni
@RocknRonni 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro
@peterrech2307
@peterrech2307 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ron, welcome back. These gel stylus cleaners are a problem. I have a number of friends who have used them and had problems. You can only tell the problem with a microscope. (From my investigationsvia a friend of mine who is a chemical engineer, all of these gels use the same base compound from China but with a different colouring added. Some people have used these gel products to clean records as well, and td they generaly leave a residue on the records as well. The best way I have found to clean stylus is with an Audio Technica AT-637 Ultrasonic Stylus cleaner (sadly no longer made) ( Dynavox HFC-50 is similar on Ebay) (also Flux unit from Germany, but expensive). These units use micro vibrations on the brush to clean stylus with no residue (turn of the audio system when using it, gets loud). Best brush I have used is the SC-2 Discwasher (still use my original one). Another good one is to use the white side of the Magic Eraser. Use it same way as Gel but leaves no residue and is very cheap (just don't get it wet). Glad to see you back. I thought maybe you had left us...........Enjoy the music.
@quikspecv4d
@quikspecv4d 2 жыл бұрын
I stopped using my gel when this story first got out. I hadn’t noticed any issues on my stylus but I just wanted to be safe. I cleaned it with liquid even though the manufacturer advises against it but I am only going to do that every few months or so. Hopefully it won’t damage it. I only have about 6 more months on this stylus anyway before I will need to replace it.
@joebloggs8636
@joebloggs8636 2 жыл бұрын
I stopped using it when story broke....I have no problem at all using liquid to clean needle either..
@NickP333
@NickP333 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Ron! Glad to see you make a vid again, buddy! I became aware of the film left behind by those gel type cleaners a couple months ago, when I read about JR at WAM figuring it out, then Mikey Fremer doing an article on Analog Planet. I started using a magic eraser a while back then lowering my stylus into some Blu tack. Every once in a while I’ll use a cleaning solution on a record brush like you’ve got. I think a lot of people will appreciate this video. A clean stylus and a clean record is a happy record and stylus. Thanks, Ron!
@RocknRonni
@RocknRonni 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Nick my old friend how are you we need to have a phone call soon I think yeah I learned about this a while back and clean my stylus but it wasn't until a repeated cleaning with many strokes that I finally got rid of that Miss tracking wow it makes such a big difference in the sound and thanks again for watching Nick
@DavidToth-re6zw
@DavidToth-re6zw 2 жыл бұрын
Great advice as ever Ron,love your vids,as i've recently re entered the vinyl record world after many years in the soley digital area i find your videos old and new really helpful and informative
@charlesgund4812
@charlesgund4812 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you back. Glad you got it sorted, that’s the main thing! 👍
@RocknRonni
@RocknRonni 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother I am too it's been a long road and I have been frustrated for so long and now they hear that beautiful sound it's such a relief
@Doat1911
@Doat1911 11 ай бұрын
I had my first ever record player setup, and was looking for stylus cleaning methods. Thank you for the informative video!
@RocknRonni
@RocknRonni 11 ай бұрын
You're most welcome my friend. if you are new into vinyl records I have 200 videos chocked full of information about records collecting cleaning all the tips that you need all the information about how they're made you won't believe it my friend how chock full of information these videos are thanks for watching and liking the video most appreciated. ❤️
@Doat1911
@Doat1911 11 ай бұрын
@@RocknRonni Awesome! I'll be sure to check out your videos.
@Baz63
@Baz63 2 жыл бұрын
will definately purchase a top quality stylus cleaning kit....thanks Ron
@dimebagdave77
@dimebagdave77 2 жыл бұрын
Good to see you Ron! Thanks for the tip about the gel cleaners👍 Edit: really like the background logo, I've been using the magic eraser trick for years now
@RocknRonni
@RocknRonni 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Dave good to hear from you my friend thanks for the kind words good feedback also watching the video glad you enjoyed it
@EddiePerezIII1967
@EddiePerezIII1967 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see you Ron and fantastic video on proper needle cleaning. I recently have started using the Hudson Hi-Fi Turntable UV Stylus Cleaner but I do not use the liquid cleaner. I'm not a fan of using liquid cleaner on styluses.
@RocknRonni
@RocknRonni 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Eddie thanks for watching my friend hope you're doing well
@MrLovell1971
@MrLovell1971 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back Ron great to see you back miss you brother . I use the Onzow Zero Dust stylus cleaner it’s been good great recommendations I’m going to look into the stylus cleaner you suggested definitely can’t wait to see you new room set up in the future take care . Lovellandrew
@RocknRonni
@RocknRonni 2 жыл бұрын
Hello my friend I'm so happy you watch the video and okay I guess I'll do the room tour tomorrow for you the room is not that much different but I can do one anyway
@MrLovell1971
@MrLovell1971 2 жыл бұрын
@@RocknRonni thanks that’s awesome I definitely will be tuned in brother 🥂👍
@pbthal
@pbthal 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you Ron...Room Tour Room Tour Room Tour!!!! Did I mention Room Tour?
@RocknRonni
@RocknRonni 2 жыл бұрын
Hey bro how are you? so you want a room tour. well it's not that much different, but I do have a few things to talk about. I promised Lovel Andrew I would do it tomorrow. So I guess I got to geter done.
@twofromthetrunk9932
@twofromthetrunk9932 2 жыл бұрын
glad to see you back enjoyed the video
@wege_9398
@wege_9398 2 жыл бұрын
All you need is Mr Clean Magic Eraser and a fiber brunch. No liquids….
@cristianquiros7704
@cristianquiros7704 2 жыл бұрын
You're right...I never liked that gel....I don't like it at all... prefer the liquid I guess clean better
@RocknRonni
@RocknRonni 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed 100% that little brush works great for me and the liquid is just something to do every couple of months just for insurance
@johnfloydman7735
@johnfloydman7735 2 жыл бұрын
Great video very interesting 👍 nice to see you back 🙏✌️
@Dave-if5qj
@Dave-if5qj 9 ай бұрын
I'm uncomfortable with the gel Type cleaners been using one for a couple year's but I'm going back to the simple old brush and liquid
@RocknRonni
@RocknRonni 9 ай бұрын
That's what I'm doing I don't have to do it that often but clean with the liquid once in awhile. there's a few videos out there about stylus cleaning and looking at the results using microscopes and such very interesting.
@Peter-ii4xq
@Peter-ii4xq 4 ай бұрын
At the internet I only opposite advises at every subject one can think about. So also about this cleaning subject: With liquid you destroy the glue of your tip. Must I throw away my just ordered DS Audio ST 50 gel cleaner when it arrives next week.
@analoguecity3454
@analoguecity3454 2 жыл бұрын
Good to see ya again, rockin ronnie! 😎 I use a gel cleaner, and it does great! Never had a problem with it! But it's more a "soft plastic " than gel! The name is "momila" , and it's more a "soft plastic" than gel like I said!
@RocknRonni
@RocknRonni 2 жыл бұрын
Well my stylist profile is a micro line and it's very small so any little bit of residue will lead to miss tracking
@analoguecity3454
@analoguecity3454 2 жыл бұрын
@@RocknRonni mine is an ortiphon blue, I think it's "nude elliptical"! Those microlines can be really delicate, but totally worth it! Wish I could afford one! Have a good ne bud!
@richardriley4415
@richardriley4415 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, good to see you. There are several different brands of that gel are they all the same ? I need to check mine out. I've been quite lax lately. I have the brush and liquid as well. I used to have one of those discwashers brushes. I really liked it. I've even tried to find another one.
@RocknRonni
@RocknRonni 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Richard good to be back my friend good to hear from you two I'd say all the gels are the same even the expensive ones are the ones that were named as the culprits I wouldn't use any of them
@continentalgin
@continentalgin 2 жыл бұрын
I've still got one of those discwasher brushes, always loved it, never tried the gels. Nice to know I don't need to go the gels route. I use the brush a lot to get lint and debris off and it works quite well.
@kornucopia9460
@kornucopia9460 Жыл бұрын
Library of Congress uses gel stylus cleaners. The movement of the stylus is massive compared to whatever thin film may or may not be present.
@cspiegs1
@cspiegs1 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ron. I saw this report on the Vinyl Attack channel a few months ago. I've been using the Onzow Zerodust (which was mentioned as one of the culprits) gel cleaner for about 2 years on my Ortofon 2M Blue. Luckily I have not noticed any degradation in sound. I also purchased a USB microscope to inspect my stylus and don't see any buildup. None the less, I stopped using it and went back to using a LAST stylus cleaner (I don't have any liquid cleaner yet). I have an ultrasonic cleaner for my records (I use it in conjunction with my VPI RCM). I would be curious on any thoughts of using this on my stylus. I could immerse just the tip into the US cleaning fluid which consists of 90% distilled water, 10% isopropyl alcohol (99%) and 1% Ilfotol (surfactant).
@RobJohnsonRules
@RobJohnsonRules 2 жыл бұрын
Ortofon recommends not using liquids to clean the stylus on their carts. They suggest the liquid can move up the stylus and damage the stylus cement (I guess this is how the stylus is attached). They suggest simply using a brush. I've been using the gel but only have a few times. Definitely going to stop going forward and simply clean with a brush on a regular basis.
@zztop7000
@zztop7000 Жыл бұрын
Ortofon is 100% correct they engineer their product just use brushed that comes with it. That gel it's not going to turn your stylus into a shiny new car.
@sp1200M3D
@sp1200M3D 9 ай бұрын
I’m a big Ortofon guy and when I read that too it was discouraging. I don’t feel like dry wiping their stylus’ with their brush really cuts it, now I’m at a loss…
@BobbyGass5
@BobbyGass5 2 жыл бұрын
Holy Moly Batman it's Ronnie. I thought the Taliban kidnapped you Bud. LOL
@vincenzonapoles4371
@vincenzonapoles4371 2 жыл бұрын
I've had the exact problems
@georgealanlpsandcds9311
@georgealanlpsandcds9311 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Ron, good seeing you again - sad news about the gunk build up on the stylus - thanks for bringing that to our attention - I use Moongel which I do not know if it is the same as the material you were showing but I think I'll get some of the liquid cleaner. I also think I will go over to Analog Planet and see what Michael Fremer is saying - have a great weekend brother 😊✌😊.
@RocknRonni
@RocknRonni 2 жыл бұрын
Hello George I hope you are doing well my friend I didn't have much luck with that gel cleaner I use just a little bit I think they're all about the same the ones they were complaining about where the expensive ones anyway and thanks for watching
@peterrech2307
@peterrech2307 2 жыл бұрын
Hi George, from my knowledge all of the gels are made from the same Chinese base compound, only difference is the colouring used.
@continentalgin
@continentalgin 2 жыл бұрын
A solid Like for this important video!
@RocknRonni
@RocknRonni 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro I appreciate you
@hoobsgroove
@hoobsgroove 2 жыл бұрын
Blu-Tack is the best thing just a big ball of blu tack leave it on the tt, massage it well for about 5 minutes first. just dip it in and then straight onto the record. you should polish your styli with green emery paper you can buy it from Linn
@scottspinner1
@scottspinner1 2 жыл бұрын
Great ron good to see you. Nice to be reminded of those cleaners. Have you stopped using them. Is it a particular make.
@RocknRonni
@RocknRonni 2 жыл бұрын
I believe it's all of them they were complaining about one of the more expensive ones but I used one of the cheaper ones and it was not good at all for my needle
@EliphasDesni
@EliphasDesni 5 ай бұрын
Moongel works fine for me.
@peterrech2307
@peterrech2307 2 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year by the way Ron...........
@RocknRonni
@RocknRonni 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro Happy New Year to you as well hope all is well
@peterrech2307
@peterrech2307 2 жыл бұрын
@@RocknRonni Thanks, things are as well as can be. enjoying music and life
@hectort.690
@hectort.690 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Ron nice to you again.
@RocknRonni
@RocknRonni 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the good wishes ha so glad you watched the video appreciate you my friend
@buck7477
@buck7477 8 ай бұрын
Did you say the little camel hair brush was for cleaning records? I’ve been using it to clean my stylus
@RocknRonni
@RocknRonni 8 ай бұрын
Yeah I probably did I don't remember but it's for cleaning your stylus exactly this video is about stylus cleaning Thanks for watching
@sp1200M3D
@sp1200M3D 9 ай бұрын
Ortofon advices to not use any chemical cleaners for their stylus’s. Just a heads up if you use Ortofon, and your reading this.
@marcbegine
@marcbegine 2 жыл бұрын
Always check the stylus with a microscope!
@1999zrx1100
@1999zrx1100 10 ай бұрын
Due to the temperature the stylus gets up to while playing a record that gel really bakes on. Don’t use it.
@derosa1989
@derosa1989 2 жыл бұрын
these days with the inexpensive plug-in USB microscopes, it's not to difficult to actually inspect your own stylus to see if it's clean. Shouldn't need to spend more than $50
@RocknRonni
@RocknRonni 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's one of those things on the list of things to get to seems like it's never gets done but it's good advice
@Vintageelectronics2296
@Vintageelectronics2296 Жыл бұрын
Just use water and a stylus brush works great
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