Is Genghis Khan Ancestor of the Millions?
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The Kings and Generals animated historical documentary series on Mongol History continues with a video in which we are trying to deduce if the founder of the Mongol Empire Genghis Khan is the ancestor of millions of people using the most recent genetic studies.
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@KingsandGenerals 2 жыл бұрын
This is the most scientific video in the history of our channel. I will cry so much if it fails. Like, comment, and share - we can't afford to raise the sea levels even more. Original title of the video was "Is Genghis Khan Your Daddy?", but we decided against it...
@sitproperlywhilewatchingph423 2 жыл бұрын
Genghis Khan : if I don't have a army I will make one . But iam disappointed after knowing that he is not a breeding machine lol .
@jona.scholt4362 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else get transplanted to Salusa Secundus and that Sardaukar scene from Dune when the throat singing started in this vid?
@AXXXOLO 2 жыл бұрын
should have kept the original title
@sitproperlywhilewatchingph423 2 жыл бұрын
The original title is savage lol 😂
@ememmeme8722 2 жыл бұрын
Why did you reupload?
@HistoryDose 2 жыл бұрын
Love this kind of content. The internet can perpetuate “meme history,” and some course correction is appreciated
@ManiacMayhem7256 2 жыл бұрын
Yes sadly meme history is very very popular, and tends to shape how people think far more than any hard working historians or enthusiasts
@edmanne 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, my favorite history channel commented on the video of another great history channel I’m subscribed to! That’s neat. Like seeing your teacher at the mall as a kid, you don’t think about how KZfaq channels are run by people who probably also watch KZfaq. Haha.
@logank444 2 жыл бұрын
History dose your stuff is also awesome, thank god for KZfaq
@HistoryDose 2 жыл бұрын
@@logank444 thanks!
@aSSGoblin1488 Жыл бұрын
ultimate chad temujin
@princepscivitatis4083 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought the whole Genghis Khan ancestor trope in Asia was similar to that of Charlemagne's in Europe. And I find it ironic that even though nobody believed Genghis' heir was his spawn (due to his wife being held in captivity when she got pregnant) and ridiculed the kid for it, Genghis always stood by him and pressed the fact that he was indeed his lawful son.
@adityaanggaisback937 2 жыл бұрын
Genghis second son:lawful son? I disagree
@Ttegegg 2 жыл бұрын
Time for a kid fight
@m.zahidiftikhar6818 2 жыл бұрын
@@adityaanggaisback937 were you hiding in the closet? LOL...
@n.v.9000 2 жыл бұрын
@@adityaanggaisback937 the man are dead, and still you judge them...soo sad
@n.v.9000 2 жыл бұрын
it was based on mathematical hypothesis(exponential growth) that if no one ever cheated anybody in the history of the world then going back there would be more people in your families tree by the time of Charlemagne then there was people born on this planet ever...the hypothesis suggested we are morally bankrupt or we never had any morals at all but like to think of our self as better beings(soul is also a concept that tries to make us better then we are.....
@aegystierone8505 2 жыл бұрын
It's kind of amazing that the Hazaras still exists as a distinct ethnic group in Afghanistan, their physical appearance certainly stood out compared to the other ethnicities.
@teovu5557 2 жыл бұрын
Turkmens,Uzbeks and pamiri krygyz of afghanistan are also heavy East Asian looking not just the Hazaras.
@mubarizchangezi3297 2 жыл бұрын
@@teovu5557 The Hazarapeople have a more Mongolian influenced culture and language than any of the other cultures in the whole region
@buraksimsek7264 2 жыл бұрын
@@teovu5557 East Eurasian*. Turkic people are not East Asian but Siberian + East Eurasian.
@kaliskunkog2255 2 жыл бұрын
Culture is a big influence on identity not just genetics. Only white people are obsessed with genetics. What's more important? Two people looking exactly the same but can't communicate or two people that share history and can communicate with one another?
@cyrusthegreat1893 2 жыл бұрын
@@teovu5557 And they all are mixed with Persians.
@morganlefay195 2 жыл бұрын
12:02 Poor Jochi. All the suffering he endured being called bastard and now science proves him a true Chinggisid.
@dannybrown4635 2 жыл бұрын
Mongolians always knew he was son of Gengkhis, because in Mongolian Secret History it is written that Gengkhis asked support to get his Wife and CHILD back. This CHILD word is taken away from the translations of the other languages.
@stefanomagaddino6868 2 жыл бұрын
And what if Borte was already pregnant when kidnapped by the Merkid ? Wouldn't that be something ? I mean, it's possible, isn't it ?
@stefanomagaddino6868 2 жыл бұрын
@@dannybrown4635 never knew this. Thanks.
@stefanomagaddino6868 2 жыл бұрын
@@chohani47 But have have never heard anyone even posing the possibility.
@tasbykekerey1203 2 жыл бұрын
Merkits are Turkic people
@Top.Ramin.Noodles 2 жыл бұрын
I'm Hazara, I did a DNA test to find out if we're really Mongolian. I got 43% Mongolia, 23% Afghan, 18% Iran, 7% North China, 5% North India, and 4% Korea.
@tasbykekerey1203 2 жыл бұрын
Hazar khanate established before Mongol khanate, you are Turk!
@Top.Ramin.Noodles 2 жыл бұрын
@@tasbykekerey1203 Nah, Mongol.
@satanshameer690 2 жыл бұрын
@@tasbykekerey1203 lol. You Turks came from further east. From Manchuria
@tim.2543 Жыл бұрын
@@tasbykekerey1203 most Turks don’t have central Asian dna .Turks closely greek.
@bitoudaisaku8303 Жыл бұрын
You’re a hizada not a hazara
@miguelzavaleta1911 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate videos that debunk narratives (such as this, or the Spartan one) -- people will believe the most unbelievable things as long as the narrative has an interesting hook to it. People will happily suspend disbelief for the sake of a narrative.
@jimmyandersson9938 2 жыл бұрын
Never destroy a good story with facts
@claudiu-mihaipuiu1221 2 жыл бұрын
Which spartan narrative, if I may ask? If it's the one I think you're mentioning, then I strongly disagree.
@selicam6216 2 жыл бұрын
What was the sparta one?
@Jixxor 2 жыл бұрын
I too am curious about the video title for the one about Sparta you mentioned as I liked this video on Daddy Khan
@miguelzavaleta1911 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if KZfaq is filtering my comment, but i already posted the video mentioned for anyone interested. It's by channel Invicta called "misunderstood moments in history - the Spartan myth."
@flemishnationalist-prayfor9809 2 жыл бұрын
Well, this only includes male line descendants. So if one of Ghengis' descendants had a daughter, and that daughter had a child, that child is not a male line descendant of Ghengis, but still a descendant.
@googane7755 2 жыл бұрын
That's why I think in a way, everyone in asia would be related to him as tracking only paternal ancestry is just only one picture.
@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory 2 жыл бұрын
That is true; however, the 2003 study which popularized the claim (and the version that gets repeated all the time) focused on the Y haplogroups and the paternal ancestry (and hence why people often phrase it as "every 1 in 200 men in Asia today is a descendant of Chinggis Khan). The video looks specifically at the argument around y haplogroups popularized and repeated in recent media. Obviously Chinggis would have many, many descendants living today, descended from him through male and female lines. Just not the overwhelming amount of direct paternal line descendants it is often portrayed as
@herrrobert5340 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory Yeah, it does seem unlikely that he would have that many direct male descendants. Male lines are more prone to die out as men are not as likely to reproduce as women, and cuckolding is also a factor. I thought the myth was about both male and female descendants, though.
@hex8838 2 жыл бұрын
The tomb and body of Genghis Khan has not found yet nothing really evidently genetics related to him if his corpse was not discovered yet.
@truthseeker-nv6ny Ай бұрын
@herrrobert5340 but it's unlikely that chinghisid male line will die out because this lineage was always at the top of the hypergamy chain throughout centuries
@denniscleary7580 2 жыл бұрын
If he’s an ancestor of millions I would say he was a very busy man, the busiest in all of history
@n.v.9000 2 жыл бұрын
@Zeno the Filipino did you ever heard of Donald Trump...he once was asked what he and his daughter have in common and he answer-"sex probably" and she said -"their love of real estates"....not even the Khan was that scandalous
@sanjin5387 2 жыл бұрын
@@n.v.9000 Genghis Khan raped thousands and thousands of women. But Donald Trump is more evil I guess 🤦♂️
@thalmoragent9344 2 жыл бұрын
@@sanjin5387 It's crazy that some of the women actually did it willingly too 👀
@actsfive30 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah he's was busy killing entire populations lol...
@n.v.9000 2 жыл бұрын
@@sanjin5387 he isnt more evil....more scandalous as it is televised and Khan had his royal writer write what he told them
@hamzaferoz6162 2 жыл бұрын
Actually Hazaras know that they aren't Chinggis's Descendants. Hazaras are also tribal and many know they are descendants of regular Mongols.
@teovu5557 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: half of the hazaras tribes match Mongolian tribes almost word for word.
@mehdikhan9827 2 жыл бұрын
First of all proud to be Hazara. We hazaras have many tribes that differentiate between eachother such as when turkomongol warriors came to persia and present day afghanistan pakistan etc . because of the distance to go back to central asia and mongolia was Long, Hazaras took local wifes from wherever they were stationed, Thats what makes the hazaras and central asians Such a cluster of different ethnic group mixed in one.
@hamzaferoz6162 2 жыл бұрын
@@mehdikhan9827 Exactly.
@mubarizchangezi3297 2 жыл бұрын
The Hazaras have a more Mongolian based culture and take pride on their ancestors linked to genghis khan than any other culture in the region who share East Asian feautures and physical attributes. I am sure that with subsequent research, their ancestors linked to genghis will be uncovered.
@GreaterAfghanistanMovement 2 жыл бұрын
@@mubarizchangezi3297 Most of you guys don't. Hazaras in Afghanistan always pretend to be Turks instead of being proud to be Mongolian.
@tariver1693 2 жыл бұрын
I actually know a person who traces his lineage to Genghiz Khan. He is a Volga Tatar and his grandfather was a historian who in pre-Soviet times managed to find genealogical records tracing him to one of the khans of Kazan Khanate, who was a Genghizid.
@teovu5557 2 жыл бұрын
Khans of Kazan are from Jochi(Genghis Khans probable non-biological son) lol
@xananymous431 2 жыл бұрын
Most of Genghis Khan children's are born as illegitimate and only a few are born as legitimate.. Your volga friend might be the illegitimate descendents of Genghis Khan.
@tariver1693 2 жыл бұрын
@@xananymous431 I doubt that illegitimate children could become khans.
@xananymous431 2 жыл бұрын
@@tariver1693 yes of course.. The title of Khan is spreading nowadays mostly people around Central Asia and Southern Asia (ie Pakistan, Iran, India, Bangladesh) have Khan at the end of their name.. I have a friend who had a Khan in his name and he told me it symbolise that you're from a rich or powerful family.
@tariver1693 2 жыл бұрын
@@xananymous431 Kazan Khanate was in Eastern Europe and was conquered by Russians in mid 16th century, so certainly not the case here.
@djolds1 2 жыл бұрын
A fascinating examination. Yes, it does seem that C2* is more an expression of Mongolian population movements than of Genghis himself.
@rustoo3823 2 жыл бұрын
This is such an informative video from Kings and Generals! It would be great to see more videos of historiography, especially about civilizations, scriptures, and religions. Thank you very much to the Kings and Generals for creating these :)
@akernis3193 2 жыл бұрын
That was a really informative video. Nice work ^^
@johnspizziri1919 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. This was fantastic. Thank you very much!!
@anitapollard1627 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thank you for taking the time & effort to clear that up and explain it concisely for me 🤗❤
@markolukic7824 2 жыл бұрын
I have recently started a masters in Genetics so this came just at the right time.
@Quickshot0 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting to see how lines of reasoning changed based on weaknesses in various arguments, thanks for the extra details, very informative.
@mahuyakhastagir3091 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making such great videos K&G.
@hridoyabdullah5133 2 жыл бұрын
Love the videos of this channel the most .Keep up the good work
@pompacitokmakci 2 жыл бұрын
Hello there. I would like to express my opinion as someone who has done research on this subject before. If anyone has more information, please reply to me. From what I researched, a genetic test on a member of the Yuan dynasty revealed haplogroup C2. Also, as stated in the video, descent from Genghis Khan was often not ethnic but political. In other words, those who ruled Central Asia after the Chagatai Khanate did not come from Genghis Khan genetically, but they claimed this politically. Also, according to Familytree DNA, the Timurid haplogroup was J2. So as a result, in my general memory, the borjigin was not racial, ethnic, but political. I hope more research will be done in the future and we will know the facts for sure without any doubt.
@bugzyhardrada3168 2 жыл бұрын
Did the muslims not describe him as a pale skinned man with blue or green eyes and red or blonde hair? If that indeed were to be the case then the physical appearance of his descendants should be somewhat more...uhh....diverse, perhaps....?!?
@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory 2 жыл бұрын
@@bugzyhardrada3168 they did not. This comes from a mistranslated statement by Rashid al-Din (d.1318), the Ilkhanid vizier, who wrote that Chinggis commented that Khubilai did not have a ruddy (reddish) complexion like himself. This was misunderstood by some people as Chinggis referring to red hair, but it actually refers to having red facial features- a common occurrence for people who spend their lives in the wind exposed steppe. So quite the opposite of pale skin Regardless , Rashid was born years after Chinggis' death, and there is no detailed description of him from his life.
@user-ir2fu4cx6p 2 жыл бұрын
Same sht happened in countries invaded by Islam, many group until today claiming they are descended from Mohammed house _(beyit)_ which is 100% false, genetic tests _(they done in mid 2000)_ exposed their lies, e.g in North Africa, they found these groups weren't even Arabs mostly Berber make these claim to not pay taxes for the Muslims rollers that era, they even go further and buy false certificates _(kinda like family tree)_
@3rdworldbig733 2 жыл бұрын
J2 is Mesopotamian/Caucasian gene right? Meaning the Timurids where not from Mongolia, but people’s of the Iranian plateau under Mongolian hegemony?
@bugzyhardrada3168 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-ir2fu4cx6p i was once shown of picture of a man called Muhammad Abul Huda al-Yaqoubi, said to be a descendant of the Prophet Muhammad. And al-Yaqoubi is the furthest from your typical Arab you can get, yet according to muslim friends of mine he looks very much similar to what the Qu'ran apparently describes him as(Incidentally al-Yaqoubi is also blood related to most of europes royal families). As i have not read the Qu'ran i cannot say, as i do not speak Arabic i cannot say yet i wonder if this is true ?!?
@JohnnyElRed 2 жыл бұрын
So, Chinggis Khan wasn't really a love machine? What a disappointment. But the idea of you making more videos about the historical study of genetics seems interesting, though. Like, there have been studies saying that people of northen Spain have more in common with north African ancestors, leftovers from the Muslim invasion, than people from southern Spain. I wonder how much truth is there on that.
@zacharyclark5617 2 жыл бұрын
The Great Khan was a war machine. Not a love machine.
@ivannovak4711 2 жыл бұрын
wtf this coment is 12 hours old but the vid is like 10 mins good shit
@yonathanrakau7279 2 жыл бұрын
@@zacharyclark5617 his generals are he is on the other hand like hitler
@hamzaalikhan9932 2 жыл бұрын
@@zacharyclark5617 i think he is a patreon supporter or channel member or something they usually get early access to videos
@deplorableme4678 2 жыл бұрын
@@ivannovak4711 the video was made for this comment apparently
@ProvidenceNL 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this video so much, great work!
@HistorySkills 2 жыл бұрын
This was great, fascinating stuff. Thanks.
@awesomehpt8938 2 жыл бұрын
Oh well but as Genghis Khan said that best thing in life is to crush your enemies see them driven before you and to see the lamentation of their women
@com-ev5wq 2 жыл бұрын
Noted.
@turmunkhganbaatar2515 2 жыл бұрын
I thought that was from a persian scolar who disliked writting generations after he had passed.
@ElBandito 2 жыл бұрын
Origin in doubt.
@astranix0198 2 жыл бұрын
To see the ahegao of their women
@FrEeTibEtXinJiAnGfReEpOkCoL 2 жыл бұрын
@@com-ev5wq ullu 🙄😊
@gauravrao6529 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, credit for this video as it really is good to break internet myths and at the same time, learn not only history but some biological studies and terminology as well!
@Keefan1978 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool. Really interesting. Thank You!
@radoslavkovacevic4988 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video as usual 👌
@Mathmachine 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to say that he is just so that people will start calling him "Big Daddy Khan".
@mr.neqtan 2 жыл бұрын
Rakim comes out of retirement
@user-zq5zg9qd6e 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, we actually do :)
@ic.xc. 2 жыл бұрын
Chungus Khan
@henrimourant9855 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video.
@Thelastkeyboardwarrior 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite videos from your channel
@atune2682 2 жыл бұрын
great vid!
@iceychilli557 2 жыл бұрын
Mongol Tribes that Converted to Islam And Adopted Persian Culture by 1345 One of that Tribe was ( BARLAS Tribe which Came to rule 2 empires One Timurid Empire And 2nd Mughal Empire ) Basically Mughals Were Descendants of Genghis Khan and had Mongol Origin because of their Barlas Tribe which Adopted Persian-Kurdish Culture and Converted to Islam They ruled world almost 700 years
@alashorda2206 2 ай бұрын
What do the Persians have to do with it? They are Turkics and committed genocide against the Persians. All Central Asian Turkics consider Timur their ancestor, but the Persians hate him. The Barlas tribe still exists in Central Asia and they consider themselves Uzbeks and Kazakhs
@SomasAcademy 2 жыл бұрын
I have a half-finished script about universal ancestors, and included a shout-out to Chinggis Khan not on the basis of haplotype, but just math; based on the number of generations back he lived, there's a pretty high chance that most people in central and east Asia are descended from him, though they wouldn't share his Y haplogroup because very few would be descended from him along an unbroken male line.
@SomasAcademy 2 жыл бұрын
@anothaview I didn't even mention Southeast Asians lmao, and regardless, appearance has nothing to do with this, because being descended from an individual doesn't say anything about all your other ancestors. Each generation you go back, the number of ancestors doubles, so the significance of any one ancestor goes down. Chinggis Khan lived about 24 generations back if we estimate pretty long generations, so anyone descended from him would have at least 16,777,215 other ancestors in the same generation. The average person doesn't even look like any of their individual grandparents, so why would they look like one specific great great great great great [etc] grandparent?
@Neomalthusiano 2 жыл бұрын
@@SomasAcademy Your reasoning is logical from the mathematical point of view. This not only applies to Genghis, but to everyone else. However, it varies highly according to the number of children that were able to live enough to foster offspring in the following two generations of the given person.
@SomasAcademy 2 жыл бұрын
@@Neomalthusiano Yeah, I do get into that in the script, but didn't want to address all the nuances in my comment lmao
@upite4202 2 жыл бұрын
@@SomasAcademy you need to factor in the marriages happened b/w distant relatives mostly like generations apart. Because they were highly likely even from mathematical point if we go back even a few generations back for a specific area
@SomasAcademy 2 жыл бұрын
@@upite4202 Yeah, I do get into the nuances in the script.
@xzab7276 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting content. Thank you .
@kennymitchell3020 2 жыл бұрын
Great video anymore info available would be greatly appreciated
@harismerekoulias2197 2 жыл бұрын
Kings and Generals: going after the memes
@fighterofthenightman1057 2 жыл бұрын
Would absolutely love for you guys to take on more genetic discussions from a historical/cultural perspective - truly fascinating! Some videos on what genetics have taught us about ancient Europeans, such as the Indo Europeans from the Steppe and the relatively advanced Neolithic European cultures that predated them! So much discussion on this topic is too dry and scientific. You guys would be amazing at bringing historical genetic terms like “Early European Farmer” and “Western Steppe Herder” to life and giving these people faces and depth!
@johannasalem1241 2 жыл бұрын
mind=blown, thanks for this effort !!!
@based3024 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@EmisoraRadioPatio 2 жыл бұрын
Met a Hazara the other day who said his ancestors were Mongols. I didn’t believe it at first!
@abdulahmed5929 2 жыл бұрын
Yup he was from a place called ghur not from mongolia ...
@EmisoraRadioPatio 2 жыл бұрын
@@abdulahmed5929 Yeah, he was from Ghor, exactly
@tasbykekerey1203 2 жыл бұрын
Hazar is a Turkic nation, not Mongol!
@historydawn9982 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I like your content. Editing and narrating make your channel my favorite. Your work should be admired . You are deserve more subscriber I hope you must gain 2 Million subscriber by the end of this year. Please keep continue this type of amazing work. Your admirable hard work and deep research make you the best channel on KZfaq.
@thefeudallord3149 2 жыл бұрын
.... Kings and Generals has 2.23 million subcribers.
@beanondaddy3397 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video. I took a test with a well known genealogy company. Now I know I have Native American, Scottish, Turkish, ... ancestors from places I never knew my ancestors were in... wonderful.
@deepaknair777 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome Guys!!!
@ragnaroni 2 жыл бұрын
I spent three years learning semi advanced biology so it was nice to go "Oh I know this and that" at the explanations!
@saadabbas8976 2 жыл бұрын
Never knew the channel also addresses matrimonial/venereal strategies and tactics.
@marksimpson8577 2 жыл бұрын
Well when you consider all is fair in love and war...
@saadabbas8976 2 жыл бұрын
@@marksimpson8577 From Scythia to Camelot Book by C. Scott Littleton Let’s test the fairness 😉
@umjackd 2 жыл бұрын
I love this scientific take on historiography. Thank you for making it and giving us all a video we can link to people who won't watch it. But we can try!
@huseyincobanoglu531 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kings and Generals Team!
@brokenbridge6316 2 жыл бұрын
So basically the claim that Genghis Khan is the ancestor of millions of Asians has been called into question. Do I have that right? My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.
@linhhoang1363 2 жыл бұрын
It was a joke turning into a popular myth. One man simply can't go around all day, all week, all year round and have sex with every woman alive at that time
@246vili 2 жыл бұрын
The main point is that it hasn't been PROOVED that Genghis Khan is the ancestor of millions, because they can't identify his genes. But he still can be. And NOT by impregnating every women he sees any time he wasn't horse riding, eating or sleeping. But by his lawful and (possibly countless) bastard sons and their descendants were top candidates for marriages among the nobility of the nomad peoples even after the fall of the Mongol Empire.
@archivesoffantasy5560 2 жыл бұрын
@@linhhoang1363 well he was one of the most powerful man ever (the single most powerful being his descendant Mongke Khan)
@linhhoang1363 2 жыл бұрын
@@archivesoffantasy5560 even so, the number can't be as ridiculously high as that claim. Take this simple math and you will see how stupid that idea is: When one city was taken, let's say its typical civilian population was around 200.000. All was forced into slavery. In that number, let's say around half was female, then about half was at the age of possible reproduction. Then again, maybe only another half of that would be worth considering as gifts for the mighty Khan. Meaning they have left about 25 thousand "decent" women ripe and ready for him (let's theoretically assume he would have sex with them all eventually... yuck) Now is the interesting part: Let's again assume our mighty Khan was truly the ultimate reproduction machine, he could have sex with 10 concubines every day (yes, 10 times/day). He would still need to keep on doing so consistently in (25k/10) 2500 days. Thats almost 7 years. 7. Years. For one city. I don't need to continue to know how many more cities did he need to keep on doing so in order to reach the goal of impregnating 8% women of the whole world. Simply a joke
@linhhoang1363 2 жыл бұрын
@@246vili The thing is, to my understanding, that theory is still mean we people today have very little relation with him. According to that theory, I could say the same: every 8% of the world's population nowadays actually have some kind of relation with EVERY SINGLE MAN who has been living in Asia at the same time with The Khan. Then again, the number behind the meaning of such relation is very, tiny small.
@arghunpride5704 2 жыл бұрын
Descendants of Genghis Khan with medieval mongols and descendants of other 92 nomad tribes lives in - Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Crimea, Hazara people in Afghanistan, Kyrgyzstan, Buryatia, Kalmyks, Manchur people, Mongolia, Bashkirs, Nogays, Altay, Tuva.
@edenender 2 жыл бұрын
@Mehmed Islamof are you a crimeean tatar?
@edenender 2 жыл бұрын
@Mehmed Islamof nasil isler Qirimda ?
@arghunpride5704 2 жыл бұрын
@Mehmed Islamof Ualeikum Assalam, Qirimli Yaliboilu qardashim!
@arghunpride5704 2 жыл бұрын
@@thekraken1173 It’s true. But most of them not crimean tatars,(they just came from Kuban and Crimea to Ottoman Empire as muhadjirs, same with Cirkassians) they are Nogais, steppe nomads.
@box5319 2 жыл бұрын
The country you listed are Atrak nations. These are the people mentioned in Islamic hadith where prophet Muhammad warned Muslim to never try fighting them for if you do,you I'll lose..are the Atrak same as Mongol?I read such information in an Islamic history book
@pabloxalejandro1124 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in love with this channel
@alexpieters2345 2 жыл бұрын
Big fan of your channel from the Netherlands :) Do you have any plans highlighting some of the battles from the 80 years war.? Battle of Nieuwpoort which happened in 1600 for example. I hope you will keep this in mind :) Much love and happiness.
@looming_ 2 жыл бұрын
Most underrated history channel on YT. I would strongly advise cashing in on the Age of empires 4 launch and grabbing that audience. Those guys are history nerds.
@JM-rp5lo 2 жыл бұрын
Bro they have over 2 mil subscribers. They really arent underrated
@looming_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@JM-rp5lo 2 mil is nothing for this quality of content. Even reaction Andys have more subs these days.
@JM-rp5lo 2 жыл бұрын
@@looming_ Reaction andy has literally nothing to do with their subscriber count when they make completely separate types of videos. Obviously a person who makes videos that appeals to a huge audience is going to have more subscribers than someone who make videos for a small community of people. 2 mil is a lot of people for historic documentary youtubers.
@looming_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@JM-rp5lo what are you even arguing for? Niche channels like veritasium and 3blue 1 brown have millions of subs. Who are you to say that historic content can't have more subs? What are you the youtube police?
@JM-rp5lo 2 жыл бұрын
@@looming_ lmao look at this dude haha
@gh.husainhaidari1314 Жыл бұрын
I am a Hazara. I have never seen any Mangulian. But i wish to visit Magnolia one day. We hazaras have always been proud of being descendants Great Changis Khan. Greeting to all my brothers in Mangolia🙏❤
@user-vs7gv4cn8o 8 ай бұрын
Ghinghez khan kaffir
@TheHomeless87 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video!
@yektay7772 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one!
@theMOCmaster 2 жыл бұрын
I like how this channel doesn't just go with the most exciting interpretation of the evidence to try to create drama and clickbait!
@Aziy22 2 жыл бұрын
Ghenghis Khan in the afterlife: *wondering why the heck people care*
@Cecilia-ky3uw 2 жыл бұрын
This guy was the guy who conquered more than any man in history
@Trillioons 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cecilia-ky3uw Looks like Future followed his footsteps
@JonDoeNeace 2 ай бұрын
Some Native Siberian shamanics recognize prayers to the Khans as unto the ancestors and spirits of the honorable deceased of the region in which they live.
@ruslanibragimov6941 2 жыл бұрын
Well done!
@loupiscanis9449 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you , K&G .
@awesomehpt8938 2 жыл бұрын
You can’t say Genghis Khan didn’t have lots of fun during his time lol
@barbiquearea 2 жыл бұрын
I heard he took for himself the most beautiful women after conquering every city or town as booty as was his right as warleader/khan.
@XiangnuKhaan 2 жыл бұрын
His children were the ones who did it mostly
@n.v.9000 2 жыл бұрын
@Thorn Adkins same as food poisoning, first they train them then try them....or they were virgins...but he had concubine testers and trainers in the art of that sweet sweet love making....imagine that fat bastard picking the best fruit and telling you to taste it
@colinphang503 2 жыл бұрын
@Thorn Adkins he only did it with virgins
@user-ir2fu4cx6p 2 жыл бұрын
@@colinphang503 Like Mohammed
@ianskinner673 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this. It's one of those things that make you go hmmm. Thanks for bringing the science into it. Consider one on i think it was Ramses II of Egypt. They say he fathered alot of people in his day. Then consider how long ago that was and you might get a lot of present day Egyptians related to him. Or not..who knows.
@lakrids-pibe 2 жыл бұрын
I like the way this channel is branching out.
@yiming8697 2 жыл бұрын
The war is cruel, helpless, sad
@stefanocagliani5984 2 жыл бұрын
More videos on genetics and lineage through history yes please!
@dfgh-ke8ch 2 жыл бұрын
in my heart I am a mongoloid, that is what I am. we are a horde, that is what we are. yes we are that, we are 100% that.
@jikiri_8832 2 жыл бұрын
Infrared Rising! 🦍☀️
@iliqiliev 2 жыл бұрын
most reasonable conclusion based on the facts mr. lizard
@darrenbutler9819 2 жыл бұрын
huh, I had when younger thought that Mongoloid was a bad word, I thought it was moron in German cause it sounded similar.
@thehybrid4608 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, I remember that video from wow_mao
@imlaughinq7445 2 жыл бұрын
A video on why the mongols believed in the Mandate of Heaven and the purging of peoples that it encompassed would be very informative!
@beachboy0505 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video 📹 Record straightened
@josesbox9555 2 жыл бұрын
Long time subscriber.
@Lanval_de_Lai 2 жыл бұрын
The genetics of the Indo-Europeans are very controversial, I see many misconceptions there, I would really love a video on that topic as great and correct as this one!
@sectorgovernor 2 жыл бұрын
It is also interesting topic how many Uralic (more exactly the original Ugric) related dna the Hungarians have, if it still exists. Because it is also disputed question if Hungarians used to shared genetic relationship with Uralic people or just it was a linguistic relationship. But a recent research has found a very small amount of Ugric related haplogroup in Hungary.
@dragonfly1929 2 жыл бұрын
All those who think they are a pure race..they are lying to themselves..Genghis Khan ..Royal marriages ,and the hundreds of years of Mongol occupation..there are much more millions ..with Mongol..DNA.
@teovu5557 2 жыл бұрын
Hungarians have less then 5% Uralic ydna. N1c is only elevated in the szekely Hungarians of Romania.
@sectorgovernor 2 жыл бұрын
@@teovu5557 yes, in general, Hungarians have little East Asian dna. That's why is hard to find the genetic prove of the Uralic origin.
@sectorgovernor 2 жыл бұрын
But in 9-10th century Hungarian tombs, the East Asian dna is much higher. Different estimates exist, but one research showed 37% (if I remember well) N1C in 9-10 century Hungarian findings
@gm2407 2 жыл бұрын
I would suspect that Temüjin may have shared a common ancestor with other tribes in his near vacinity and thus when his Mongols started conquering or travelling through areas it would be possible for this haplogroup to be widly disperssed. There would be some descended from his own near relatives but it would be unlikely to be all. With Mongol inheritance the older siblings would herd in lands away from their father and the youngest would inherit the herd and area their father held. Thus it could be common for the neighbouring groups to be related for 3-600 years worth of male ancestory to cover the core period that the study shows.
@alexanderyaroslavich2703 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Though at the same time, I'm pretty sure anyone from any of the Toluid and Chaghatid lines would have married into a similarly insular local ruling group, maintaining some lineage, but keeping it relatively narrow within the scope of Mongol and Turco-Mongol "royalty". As he mentions in the vid, it was more politically oriented to claim the Chinggisid "Bone."
@markhawkins7946 2 жыл бұрын
very interesting, would love more genetic stuff
@marygebbie6611 2 жыл бұрын
Great music!!!
@abcdef27669 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, genetics on K&G! I'm sincerely impressed!
@okok-pv4ik 2 жыл бұрын
We want more ancestory documentries❤️
@sevoo1579 2 жыл бұрын
Really nice
@AdrianDucao 2 жыл бұрын
i assume vlogger "Johnny FD" is one of them, love the guy
@altinmares8363 2 жыл бұрын
Please post more videos about -Aristotle teaching Alexander The Great -Plutarch biography of Alexander The Great -Tengrism -The golden age of Jewish culture in Spain -Ancient Greece wisdom and philosophy -Judaism origins -Ottoman Empire scholars (ulema) and astronomy
@miroslavdestanov1364 2 жыл бұрын
It is possible Chingis khan to have 16 million descendants. My great-grandfather have only 3 male descendants to his male lineage but 20 in total. So is the case with Chingis Khan.The son of his granddaughter is also his descendant.And so on.
@derrickthewhite1 2 жыл бұрын
The 16 million number isn't about descendants... its about direct male descendants. If there is a daughter anywhere in the line back to the Khan, it doesn't count.
@tangodroid 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. I think it could be interesting to do a similar analysis related to the supposedly roman legion that got stranded in China (as related by Ban Gu)
@declanoleary1 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting
@Mr_M_History 2 жыл бұрын
So how did I learn about military history before Kings and Generals again?
@loganbagley7822 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. This is something that I have wondered about a lot. The one suggestion that I would make is to distinguish between "descendants" and "direct male descendants," as the term "descendants" is very broad and could refer to anyone who had Genghis Khan as an ancestor on either their mother or father's side. Y chromosomes are usually used in determining direct patrilineal heritage. Awesome video!
@NCAD 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kings and General ❤️
@Shleemaa 2 жыл бұрын
very interesting
@LionKing-ew9rm 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, historical genetics is cool!
@barbiquearea 2 жыл бұрын
Genghis Khan was believed to of sired between 1000 to 2000 children in his lifetime. Though this number might have been exaggerated as its hard to verify. Even so it is not impossible considering how he's not the only man in history to have fathered hundreds of children. Augustus II of Poland who was a prolific womanizer is believed to of had at least 400 children, most of whom were illegitimate. Even more impressively, a 17th century Moroccan Sultan, Moulay Ismail was reported to of had approximately 1171 children in total. However modern estimates puts this number down to about 868 children (525 sons and 343 daughters) in total, all of whom he sired with his 4 wives and about 500 concubines in his harem.
@gernemettwurst1253 2 жыл бұрын
Fake
@PakBallandSami 2 жыл бұрын
this is great
@ashikurrahman2960 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Great work K&G. You can make a video on Indian genealogy like the origins of the Indo-aryans.
@mali15j 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like I am the only person from Hazara's tribe watching your channel. Interesting take Kings and Generals. I never fathomed you would cover this topic in such detail - well done. Growing up, I learned few different theories about our origins from my elders. The most predominant theory is that we are descendants of mongol army which invaded Afghanistan during or after changiz khan. Apparently their numbers were in thousands, hence, the word 'Hazara' from the word "Hazar" which means thousand. On the contrary, there might be few people who say they are the actual descendants of changiz khan. The other hypothesis is that 'Hazara's" and "turks" had common ancestry, the Turko-Mongols, hence to this day, there are common dialects and cuisines between the two cultures. What is the actual story, probably no one would know. But Hazara's do pride themselves on their ancestry based on their folklore. Maybe this could be another project for digging common cultural lineages back in history based on current science and evidence. Interestingly enough, just recently I realised that our numerical counting dialect is the same as Kurds (based in Iran, Iraq and Syria) and Baloch (based in easter Iran and Pakisan), although all three of them ( Hazara's, Kurd's and Baloch's) live in different regions and their dialects/culture are completely different.
@alexanderyaroslavich2703 2 жыл бұрын
I always though that was more of a linguistic/culture thing, since the the Persian/Iranic languages were widespread, long before the Mongols. Then Islam came into the mix and added Arabic words as well. I'm from the US and I have obvious Northern European heritage, but don't speak Swedish or German, though my ancestors who moved here 150 years ago did. Compare that with your people, who've been in what is now central Afghanistan for much much longer. There's obviously going to be linguistic and cultural influence, but at the same time being Shia Muslims and keeping your own identity probably maintained a your genetic heritage a lot longer. A friend of mine has Irish and Polish heritage, which is likely very different in their genetic origins, but since both cultures were Catholic, it it made sense that they'd mingle.
@suikzaxa9593 2 жыл бұрын
Autosomaly/genetically most hazaras are a mixture a of tajik-like individuals and Mongols. The region "Bamyan", which is nowadays mostly populated by hazaras, was mentioned in several Bactrian documents as a important stronghold.
@GreaterAfghanistanMovement 2 жыл бұрын
@@suikzaxa9593 How do you know they got mixed with Tajiks?
@mehmedtheconqueror7132 2 жыл бұрын
where u live
@GreaterAfghanistanMovement 2 жыл бұрын
@Fawad Karim Lol no they look completely Mongoloid. A small minority look Caucasoid but that's probably due to recent mixing.
@ShallExplore 2 жыл бұрын
As all humans have a common ancestor. The most believed theory is that Homo-sapiens migrated from Africa to East Asia through the markings shown in the video. So basically, from East Africa to north Africa, north Africa to Middle East and to Central Asia and to the Himalayas and then up to the East Asia (all the while interbreeding with other species like Neanderthals and Denisovans). There is a hypothesis that can be a theory at the same time that Gautam Buddha and Temujin Genghis Khan shared a common lineage closer than most people would think. Buddha was born in a tribe called Shakya when the area was a part of Kirat Dynasty and although quite far in distance to current day Mongolia. Some of the Kirat explorers must have went up north. A few hundred years after the Buddha was born and Buddhism was established, there was a place called Sakya in current day Mongolia. Genghis Khan's father was from a Kiyad tribe, Genghis Khan's first wife's father was from Khongkirat tribe. Genghis Khan respected all religions and was mostly spiritual, his kins were all mostly Buddhists. There's more to add here but for now I shall share this amount.
@abusawdan9986 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation but I think we need to look into it more.
@MBP1918 2 жыл бұрын
honestly quite incredible
@Khan_lucky 2 жыл бұрын
But why Most Pashtun Pakistani and Indian people have Khan title in their names?? Khan is a mongolian word used for mongols kings.
@SKCCP 2 жыл бұрын
Having the last name ‘Khan’ or ‘Kahn’ does not mean one’s line trace back to ‘Genghis Khan’. Also Chinese and Korean surname ‘Han’ or ‘Hahn’ are their version of Khan/Kahn. Khan’ or ‘Kahn’ simply means big. In the old days, all the Joe Blow village chiefs of Turks and Mongols were called Khan/Kahn. Adopting those words as surname was common. Also, having last name Khan likely means a Turk or a Mongol did one’s distant grandmother. There are many examples like ‘Ong’, ‘Wang’, ‘Hahn’, ‘Chi’, ‘Je’, ‘Chan Yu’, ‘Sunwoo’, ‘Qagan’, ‘Gurgan’. They all mean king or king of kings.
@munkhgreentree6142 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU ARE VERY PROFESSIONAL AND EVIDENCE BASED AND NON RACIST TO EXPLAIN THE MONGOLIAN HISTORY.
@jackconate9569 2 жыл бұрын
謝謝！
@GeorgeEstregan828 2 жыл бұрын
If I'm a direct descendant, I'm gonna claim the former Mongol Empire as my own. From South Korea to Hungary and everything in between.
@mehdikhan9827 2 жыл бұрын
Calm down son.
@moogiibat5845 2 жыл бұрын
You'll have a lot of competition.
@moogiibat5845 2 жыл бұрын
@@shafqatishan437 You know what, we all should start a minor army from each of our regions and fight each other. The winner will have the full rights to inherite the empire.
@kylefisher1458 2 жыл бұрын
Its now the Kings and Generals ... and Geneticists Channel =)
@ElNegroGangsta 2 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for Golden Horde #1 on Spotify. I don't want it, I NEED it 🤩
@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory 2 жыл бұрын
Very soon! It is being written as we speak!
@ElNegroGangsta 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory love your work guys, both channels are great, keep it up 🙌🏻
@hjaltechristiansen2008 2 жыл бұрын
same brother, i can't clean my kitchen unless i hear my mongol podcast - and its now 3 weeks ago, shit got mold all over it, do i care no! just want my mongols
@ExploreLearnEnglishWithGeorge 2 жыл бұрын
I was literaly talking about this to my gf and googled the figures as this video came out...dang! trippy!
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