Is Genshin Impact Traveler a Fraud?

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CatWithBlueHat

CatWithBlueHat

Ай бұрын

After the recent fight with Arlecchino, I was kind of surprised at how easily she beat the Traveler. So, I decided to reevaluate every single battle from Traveler's past and check their actual power level. Who was helping them and who wasn't, what was the situation at the time, etc. And the results are quite surprising as you can see from the video's title (at least for combat prowess). I hope you enjoy the video :D
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@sheepyrogue2814
@sheepyrogue2814 Ай бұрын
So traveler gameplay is actually lore accurate
@hafiz7969
@hafiz7969 Ай бұрын
plssssssss
@Swellowing
@Swellowing Ай бұрын
indeed
@kison7715
@kison7715 Ай бұрын
thus why they are so garbo. except dendro
@frostknight7687
@frostknight7687 Ай бұрын
Traveller with no 5 star weapons that is.
@amarilistheodore9156
@amarilistheodore9156 Ай бұрын
Lololol traveler only use dull blade thus is why our traveler damage is trash lololol😂😂😂 Thus is why i love hsr mc bcuz they're not trash😂😂😂
@aldyzero6676
@aldyzero6676 Ай бұрын
Plot armor & power of friendship is a dangerous comfort zone, and losing against Arlecchino is a wake up slap with "you are not invincible, and you are not the main character of this world".
@silverhawkscape2677
@silverhawkscape2677 Ай бұрын
Uf they dont make permanent powerboost to traveller. They suck.
@aldyzero6676
@aldyzero6676 Ай бұрын
​​@@silverhawkscape2677they won't, because the writing in Genshin is so inconsistent especially towards the Traveler with the "oh yeah i forgot that i can use multiple elemental power"
@kornelaramli8353
@kornelaramli8353 Ай бұрын
i'm almost sure that childe is the real main character
@toufusoup
@toufusoup Ай бұрын
We lost against Arlecchino by literally forgetting we could use something other than our swords lol. I don’t know why we couldn’t use our elemental powers, when we clearly did in the cutscene with Navia or early in Inazuma. The fight with Arlecchino should have at least ended in a draw.
@noobscoopsies1100
@noobscoopsies1100 Ай бұрын
My little -Pony- Traveller: *Friendship is magic*
@Nyxrucht
@Nyxrucht Ай бұрын
Just like what one certain ace once said. "Those who survive a long time on the battlefield start to think they are invincible, I bet you do too, buddy."
@aldyzero6676
@aldyzero6676 Ай бұрын
Yeah, Aelecchino basically slaps Traveler with "don't push your luck"
@Lottabun
@Lottabun Ай бұрын
"Yo buddy, you still alive?"
@playmobilegamescodm
@playmobilegamescodm Ай бұрын
But Traveler is invincible like Zamasu. They just can't defeat others but they cannot die either. That's why no one was able to eliminate them. Sustainer also failed to eliminate them and so just sealed them. Traveler can only be sealed or made unconscious but cannot be eliminated. This is like Mafuba used against Zamasu.
@zahariospilskinanke8530
@zahariospilskinanke8530 Ай бұрын
*Spanish... uh, I mean, Sapinian guitar sound intensifies
@luisfillipebeserra2108
@luisfillipebeserra2108 Ай бұрын
​@@playmobilegamescodmthe sustainer didn't want to kill them, she just wanted to punish them for arrogantly invading teyvat, helping khaenri'ah and then trying to leave as if they hadn't done anything
@ErThAe
@ErThAe Ай бұрын
One of the few "truths" that we were given throughout the game is first spoken by Zhongli, in that we are "witnesses". Furina knows this too - and this would require a book in and by itself. We are not the protagonists of the story of Teyvat, rather we are catalysts: we either set up events, or partake, or we get them unstuck in some moments. We are not supposed to be the "hero" of the story, we're not even out there for that reason. We're a fairly regular someone trapped in a bigger scheme who helps those around him out of goodwill (from the traveler perspective at least, I strongly believe that all of this is guided) so it's only fair that we don't go around mopping the floor with deities, demigods and legendary monsters. We are to "see" what happens, and the Fontaine arc made this particularly explicit. We were to see the prophecy unfold and be countered, that's all.
@ProfessorPenny2583
@ProfessorPenny2583 Ай бұрын
Ahh. No wonder I feel nothing for the travellers whereas the Trailblazers are still one of my favourite characters in media
@luisfillipebeserra2108
@luisfillipebeserra2108 Ай бұрын
except that according to the traveler's description they will stop the world from burning
@amthirah2004
@amthirah2004 Ай бұрын
W take honestly
@ErThAe
@ErThAe Ай бұрын
@@luisfillipebeserra2108 I believe that the whole Neuvillette plot is a big foreshadowing: traveler is going around with his own agenda, yet strangely enough he meets friends at every turn, and helps them avert crisis here and there - keyword here being traveler helps them, not the other way around. That's the role he was cast to play - like Furina - and it is my understanding that by the end of the journey we will have accrued enough care for a world technically alien to us that when we get to actually act, we will do so in service of the world, rather than just say "k tnx bye" which could've easily been the case.
@ErThAe
@ErThAe Ай бұрын
Plus, given the narrative style of Travail, I believe it's possible that the journey is being recounted rather than being presently lived: a FFX scenario if you will, where we re-live what happened and all the things we have witnessed, before going back to a present where our role as "witness" is over, and we finally get to "act", like Dain implied.
@kmook1.
@kmook1. Ай бұрын
The reason why traveller is so strong is because of all the friends he made that protect him
@elChefsito735
@elChefsito735 Ай бұрын
My Little -Pony- Traveler
@sabiant.lawson2909
@sabiant.lawson2909 Ай бұрын
The guardian from destiny are better than that crap, and so is the Trailblazer from HSR
@shutup1037
@shutup1037 29 күн бұрын
Just like harry potter
@idontchuckle6658
@idontchuckle6658 29 күн бұрын
Maybe the real genshin Impact was the friends we made along the way.
@ijustabignub6674
@ijustabignub6674 29 күн бұрын
Alot of people seem to ignore that power and knowledge is also important factor,Traveler got skill and experience, but that is not enough. The god we fought had way more power than sealed traveler, that why we need help and buff from another, that why they gave traveler their power,because we are reliable, like they could have give the power to other people and shake ei will but yae can't, because they're not capable
@blackfire762
@blackfire762 Ай бұрын
It makes me think of what Zhongli said in his story quest. The traveler is a witness to Teyvat. Rather than being the strongest, we're just a strong person seeing everyone and everything in the world.
@Moon1tan
@Moon1tan Ай бұрын
Seeing all these fights back to back made me think of that as well In the end the traveler is just a witness, they're not supposed to be some sort of warrior, fighting is something they're good at of course but being a fighter isn't their role in the story but rather to experience what teyvat has to offer and remember it (or else without them the truth could be lost or changed forever thanks to Irminsal)
@ayanokoji.13
@ayanokoji.13 29 күн бұрын
​@@Moon1tan this piece of garbage (traveller) once said '' i will teach H.P a lesson'' my a** she will destroy this idiot ( good for nothing dustbin)😡😡 this is so annoying
@prestigehunter9729
@prestigehunter9729 29 күн бұрын
I mean I would agree if the traveler was just a witness but he isn’t they are a crucial piece in the story. They literally helped save every nation they have visited and they are a descender which is a person that has the willpower to rival an entire world. They are definitely not just witnesses.
@wolfstormwizard424
@wolfstormwizard424 28 күн бұрын
@@Moon1tanI mean they’re not really warrior for example for look at their fight against the UG. Even though it was last minute a d they were unprepared to be fighting prowess of them even with their original power was lackluster.
@MrFigjet
@MrFigjet 28 күн бұрын
Traveler at the end of the story will literally become the god of Teyvat. Sorry for the spoiler, but it's literally written in his/her story.
@Elynas_
@Elynas_ Ай бұрын
The traveler has unlocked the 8th element 😂 : The power of friendship
@venleos
@venleos Ай бұрын
my little pony arc
@galaxytruth2823
@galaxytruth2823 Ай бұрын
Imagine he still loses and needs help lmao
@tavanijorge2175
@tavanijorge2175 Ай бұрын
​@@venleos don't compare that TRASH 🗑️ with this please
@venleos
@venleos Ай бұрын
@@tavanijorge2175 its a kids show what did it do to you lolll
@MrSocrates_
@MrSocrates_ Ай бұрын
But will the traveler unlock the power of FAMILY though
@lunarghostz6915
@lunarghostz6915 Ай бұрын
I think the biggest problem with the Traveler right now is Hoyo is telling us but not showing it. We constantly hear about how strong the Traveler are but never showing it to us players.
@TheCatWhoAteTheCanary
@TheCatWhoAteTheCanary 19 күн бұрын
The traveler insinuated a few times that the stories about them are dramatically different from reality when people ask. It's essentially a game of telephone where people add details that make them sound better than they really are. The traveler usually has the option to have a big head about how "strong" or "renowned" they are or not.
@the_trvlr
@the_trvlr 3 күн бұрын
With all this traveler is weak stuff that has been going on in game and in lore, Hoyo could have given us a bad ass fight scene with Arlecchino but traveler just used his dull blade
@yes-lv4qy
@yes-lv4qy Ай бұрын
Arlecchino exist, "Please don't kill her in the story" Also after Arlecchino quest, "Why so weak? Traveler, Why so weak?"
@fegito9206
@fegito9206 28 күн бұрын
idk why but I read that with Uncle Roger accent
@Erowax
@Erowax 28 күн бұрын
@@fegito9206 Haiyaaaaaah...
@user-xc1qy7ed8l
@user-xc1qy7ed8l 26 күн бұрын
@@fegito9206 me2
@gray00022
@gray00022 6 күн бұрын
I was hoping she would die I never liked her character
@tine1396
@tine1396 Ай бұрын
The traveller is basically a host for others peoples's wishes. They receive buffs from others and with those buffs, they try to help those peoples.
@althea7181
@althea7181 29 күн бұрын
Yeah and it is logical, considering they are a falling star who usually we wish apon to
@Infelious
@Infelious 29 күн бұрын
@@althea7181 not only that but the whole Gnosis lore thing, maybe they hold wishes in them like those elements.
@arent2295
@arent2295 18 күн бұрын
​@@Infeliousso they're like the ultimate vessels for energy or something
@victorcook5221
@victorcook5221 Ай бұрын
Traveler didn't win against Shogun though. She beat his ass in the first fight, then the second was technically a stalemate, she just conceded at the end.
@victorcook5221
@victorcook5221 Ай бұрын
Not to mention that the Harbingers are ranked by strength from 1st to 11th and Arlecchino is rank 4th. and while they did beat Childe, they did struggle with that fight. so personally I feel that this take is a little misguided. In gameplay absolutely, traveler is consistently lackluster, but story-wise it makes sense for them to have lost that.
@Erowax
@Erowax 28 күн бұрын
Let's not forget that Ei has the endurance to do a mirror match fight for 500 years.
@flyingcow5235
@flyingcow5235 27 күн бұрын
but traveler was still standing strong while signora couldn't even stand straight or even attempt to fight back against raiden. it might be cuz of her arrogance, that she underestimated the traveler but a lose is still a lose
@worthyedge9307
@worthyedge9307 27 күн бұрын
Not to mention that the traveler was buffed a lot in the rematch and it could be speculated that Ei wasn't at her full strength in that fight
@feralsgoose
@feralsgoose 25 күн бұрын
The second time we fought Raiden we kinda got saved by Yae Miko too. 💀
@Absolute_Crimson
@Absolute_Crimson Ай бұрын
Traveler is such a FRAUD the Video reuploaded 💀
@kison7715
@kison7715 Ай бұрын
i cant help it but thinking this couldnt get any more pitiful than hillichurl WL1 lmao💀
@briantarigan7685
@briantarigan7685 Ай бұрын
Traveler is definitely not the strongest being in Tevyat, but i don't think he's as weak as some people said, he still soloed Childe and Signora, that's undeniable, which means that Traveler's current power is above them, even in the battle that he assist, Traveler is still one of the main and vital combat power Yes, it is true that adepti's power greatly help in the defeat of osial, but let's not forget that it is they themselves that said that Traveler is the only one with constitution strong enough to hold all their power, in the battle with shogun and Ei, it is true that we " won" due to the wills of all Inazuma, but i think everyone forget that we are the only warrior in the entire Inazuma that could last long against Shogun In the battle against god-scaramouche, yes, we are GREATLY assisted by Nahida's power and Hax, but even Nahida can't defeat scaramouche alone, Traveler are the only one with strong enough constitution to become a warrior proxy for Nahida
@Absolute_Crimson
@Absolute_Crimson Ай бұрын
​​​@@briantarigan7685All that just for Traveler to get hit with "Stand Proud you are strong" and got humbled.
@kison7715
@kison7715 Ай бұрын
​@@briantarigan7685 people are not expecting traveler to be the teyvat's strongest. people are expecting their main character to be at least putting up a good fight against a lethal enemy just like they did in a cutscene against Ei & Scara(before traveler getting buffed), which genshin team horrendously done traveler dirty in arlecchino even those dubs you are mention are questionable. childe wasnt beaten by traveler. he was beaten by his own foul legacy, tiring himself out faster than it needs to be. in other words he just running out of time. signora alone is so debatable and hardly accepted by the community itself, because it's just a marty stu type of writing in a whole mess writing of inazuma
@fathanrakha9295
@fathanrakha9295 Ай бұрын
​@@briantarigan7685 Still didn't change the fact that the Traveler 90% of the time is knocked unconscious, getting kidnapped by randoms, hypnotized, and so on. Still also didn't change the fact that even after learning that many elements, the Traveler didn't use any of it nor shows proper power struggle against the enemy without getting maximum buffed. Traveler basically stole the credits on most of the fights, and is only good for being a "Vessel" for all this godly powers around it. And as it is said, winning against Signora is not a valid reason when the Traveler is basically knocked unconscious by anything other that is weaker than her. It's bad writing, seriously.
@IshimurA99
@IshimurA99 Ай бұрын
It is true that no matter how much time passes, the dull blade will always exist, it is the strongest weapon in the game :)
@pookiemari143
@pookiemari143 Ай бұрын
strongest=mega flop
@Pusse_inpfp
@Pusse_inpfp Ай бұрын
​@@pookiemari143mega flop like that head full of lice 💅
@eboshisdescendant8697
@eboshisdescendant8697 Ай бұрын
I disagree with “Hoyo just hates Signora,” I think Childe got stronger since the Golden House. He is always fighting and training his skills, as seen in the Labyrinth Warriors event.
@triggermydevil393
@triggermydevil393 Ай бұрын
Childe is like a true Shounen protagonist that he is getting stronger and stronger. The reason why he is still 11th is same as why Naruto is still a Genin after 4th Shinobi War
@z.e.v
@z.e.v Ай бұрын
(copied from my other comment) even back at the Golden House, if people even tried to remember the dialogue he literally states after we "defeat him" that the foul legacy took a toll on his body and that he "didn't think this through". this is further confirmed by the achievement you get for beating that boss fight which reads "I'll Let You Off... This Time", I don't think the traveler would be the one saying that, right? maybe back then the traveler did indeed match his vision form. but as you can see in the first cutscene as soon as he switched to his delusion we were on the ground... that is until we used elemental powers, but there's no way to know if we would have beaten delusion childe if the fight had continued after that scene, because instead, childe lost his cool and activated his foul legacy which is probably the reason he lost the fight, ironically, for the reasons I stated above. I feel like the only people who remember these details are people who actually like the character such as myself, while other people have many misconceptions about him.
@DainajaxXD
@DainajaxXD Ай бұрын
​@@triggermydevil393 my main dps 🥰😊I love him 🫶
@ghetoknight7801
@ghetoknight7801 Ай бұрын
@@z.e.v yeah fr im not a childe glazer but ever since every fight except signora, it's always scratched my head that we're always falling short and then looking back eventually (about a year ago) I was like "did we even beat childe fairly?" this guy about as old us as activated his self-kill mode, one which we know he's less experienced in as that mf was out cold for like a year recovering, allat when he was destroying us already AND had an ulterior, poltiical agenda... and we just barely make it through that was like a hair's breadth and childe's character archetype is LITERALLY the "underdog who gets stronger" anyways yeah, no, traveller isn't nearly at the level of harbinger yet, about as strong as an overworld boss is more accurate since I think at full potential we can solo them and canonically we're probably fighting them with food preperation, supplies, scouting, camping out, and just general stuffs to make our time easier it doesn't help that, besides adventuring, we don't really have proper help to master our elements so we're going with the most subpar and uncreative geo, electro, hydro, dendro (love this one tho), and anemo prowess beating up thugs just doesn't do us good --- I'm still confused as to how we beat up signora, maybe their standards were lower then, or we were waiting for signora to reach her full potential as the crimson witch???
@illidormorn8013
@illidormorn8013 Ай бұрын
@@ghetoknight7801 I think Traveller is actually stronger than Signora, but definitely weaker than Childe. This "Harbingers ranked by strength" is English localization buIIshlt, and some Harbingers can be stronger than the ones above them, because while the Traveller beat Signora without any problem, he admitted in the next patch event, that Childe is certainly stronger than Signora now, and stronger than the Traveller himself.
@praveenneevarp4822
@praveenneevarp4822 Ай бұрын
The traveler isn't a joke. The real jokes is the writing team who don't know how to sell a character without making the traveler looking weak. I am not saying he should win, but at least hoyo should have let him use his 5 elements and put a better fight.
@Bladehound83
@Bladehound83 Ай бұрын
Seriously, you'd think it's obvious that not just completely humiliating the traveler would just serve to make Arlecchino look even better for beating them.
@astra8372
@astra8372 28 күн бұрын
More like they have no idea whatsoever what they're doing. I think Arle would've won against the traveler no matter how many elements they used, but making them use more than 1% of their power after which Arle defeats them just as easily would NOT make Arle look weaker. I have the same problem with Raiden killing Signora. Signora was just defeated and forced to transform back by the traveler, Raiden killing Signora in that state only makes her look like an executioner. If that wasn't part of the rules of the duel, I would personally get the impression that Raiden is actually a weakling.
@TheJH1015
@TheJH1015 28 күн бұрын
@@astra8372 wtf are you yapping about regarding Raiden, in a duel before the throne, Raiden IS the executioner to whoever loses the duel, or whoever loses to *her.* The Traveler challenged Signora, thus Raiden was per code and programming not allowed to fight Signora herself.
@astra8372
@astra8372 27 күн бұрын
@@TheJH1015 which does not make her *look* strong. I'm talking about looks, impressions, not actual facts in game. Otherwise, i would not need any cutscenes to determine if she's strong or not, because she's canonically strong, obviously
@TheJH1015
@TheJH1015 27 күн бұрын
@@astra8372 I legitimately have no clue what your point is... obviously she's not gonna 'look strong' if she's not supposed to do anything? And even then she incinerated Signora within a second idk how that doesn't look strong to you
@TotalCarnageXO
@TotalCarnageXO Ай бұрын
Rip for the ppl who took time to write essays in comment before it was reposted
@leoulouchlamperz1055
@leoulouchlamperz1055 15 күн бұрын
rip nerd
@loothhussainfazeel855
@loothhussainfazeel855 Ай бұрын
The inconsistency is the problem. Genshin's writing is too focused on showing off new characters and the such.
@justsomeguywithgreenhair
@justsomeguywithgreenhair Ай бұрын
Exactly. They've always been pretty inconsistent in terms of story development and, specially, power level. The Seven are a powerful bunch who won a war spaning several thousand of years and rules the land. The Harbringers are a bunch 'serving' one member of the seven. Yet their portrayal of them is like the opposite. I'm not even going to insert the Hexenzirkle into this. Who knows what they make of them. Maybe the Archons are only alive because Alice is on vacation. Maybe the Sovereigns lost because Surtalogi was taking a nap or something lol. I just hope to see more consistency in this regard. Hope they pay attention to this and try better.
@MNFahmiHazizi
@MNFahmiHazizi Ай бұрын
Well, I do have something that will offend a lot of people regarding how the dev minds operate to make this game. But I won't say it here. I might be band..
@rhopumpkin9538
@rhopumpkin9538 Ай бұрын
And that’s why signora had to bite the dust so they could hype of Raiden
@gustavju4686
@gustavju4686 29 күн бұрын
Might be becoming a problem of HSR too
@No-cc1fq
@No-cc1fq 29 күн бұрын
theres should be a list which character mihoyo tryna to sell in this video
@JustNikoru
@JustNikoru Ай бұрын
Reupload squad where y'all at
@kison7715
@kison7715 Ай бұрын
dang, so much of a joke the traveler is, even the video got reupload. friccin traveler couldnt get any more pitiful than a hillichurl istg
@Extra-Celestial7
@Extra-Celestial7 Ай бұрын
Sup.
@loar511
@loar511 Ай бұрын
hi
@philliparnestenbro3607
@philliparnestenbro3607 Ай бұрын
waddup
@Alex_nucleus
@Alex_nucleus Ай бұрын
Here
@KtoNeznamo
@KtoNeznamo Ай бұрын
Some elements literally have not even been used once for no reason.
@frostknight7687
@frostknight7687 Ай бұрын
Traveller have fear of being useful
@pc14thenumber9
@pc14thenumber9 Ай бұрын
Element was there but Lament was Traveler strong point
@piri_desu
@piri_desu Ай бұрын
Traveler knowingly acts in such a way that he/she knows nothing😂.
@celestialarden
@celestialarden Ай бұрын
who needs elements when you have the power of friendship
@kimbap5631
@kimbap5631 29 күн бұрын
bruh imagine being scared of using multiple elements in fear of being caught in public but the golden hair and floating fairy is a dead giveaway💀
@ShiraFuyu2022
@ShiraFuyu2022 Ай бұрын
And this is what happend when you thought your hot stuff when your most bragworthy battles are a results of someone carrying you for the most part
@briantarigan7685
@briantarigan7685 Ай бұрын
Traveler is definitely not the strongest being in Tevyat, but i don't think he's as weak as some people said, he still soloed Childe and Signora, that's undeniable, which means that Traveler's current power is above them, even in the battle that he assist, Traveler is still one of the main and vital combat power Yes, it is true that adepti's power greatly help in the defeat of osial, but let's not forget that it is they themselves that said that Traveler is the only one with constitution strong enough to hold all their power, in the battle with shogun and Ei, it is true that we " won" due to the wills of all Inazuma, but i think everyone forget that we are the only warrior in the entire Inazuma that could last long against Shogun In the battle against god-scaramouche, yes, we are GREATLY assisted by Nahida's power and Hax, but even Nahida can't defeat scaramouche alone, Traveler are the only one with strong enough constitution to become a warrior proxy for Nahida Also, what beef you have with the Traveler lol
@asiongsalonga6990
@asiongsalonga6990 Ай бұрын
who carried him against signora and childe again?
@ShiraFuyu2022
@ShiraFuyu2022 Ай бұрын
@@asiongsalonga6990 like I said, most bragworthy
@nationalgeografic7687
@nationalgeografic7687 Ай бұрын
​@@asiongsalonga6990plot armor
@asiongsalonga6990
@asiongsalonga6990 Ай бұрын
@@nationalgeografic7687 nope. He won fair and square.
@zennir48
@zennir48 Ай бұрын
Thankfully im not the only who thinks TRAVELLER F-CKING FORGOT HE COULD USE 5/7 ELEMENTS..like bro.. if your gonna make us travel all of Teyvat for your elements then at LEAST USE THEMA!!
@frostknight7687
@frostknight7687 Ай бұрын
No bro just because you got water pokemon that doesn't mean you can have water. Hoyo writer. Maybe maybe maybe.
@ibrahim5463
@ibrahim5463 Ай бұрын
The dude have skyward sword but uses dull blade and you want him to remember how to switch between 5 elements(20 burst and abilityes) please have mercy on him he have autism
@tavanijorge2175
@tavanijorge2175 29 күн бұрын
​@@ibrahim5463stop with THAT CRINGE joke
@ibrahim5463
@ibrahim5463 29 күн бұрын
@@tavanijorge2175 please be patient with me i have autism(high chance i do my parent kept saying i have it)
@davidm4171
@davidm4171 28 күн бұрын
Nah, i don't wanna use the Hydro element 😂
@CynotheWhite
@CynotheWhite Ай бұрын
It also bothers me a lot that the devs seemingly make Traveler's kit ass on purpose. He was actually decent with Dendro, so hoyo made extra sure to ruin his Hydro kit. Traveler is also listed as a 5 star, yet has 4 star level multipliers. It's like they're doing everything they can to dissuade us from using him.
@biscuit_fairy
@biscuit_fairy 28 күн бұрын
Agree, I understand they want people to pull for the other characters, but there is no excuse for the traveller's kit to be so underwhelming.
@SwobyJ
@SwobyJ 28 күн бұрын
They seemed pathetic to me with how they chose to treat Hydro Traveler, but my annoyance started as soon as Geo/Electro (Anemo is still a bit fun for me to pop out, even if its far from great, its a nice starter). Genshin makes shittons of cash. So so much money. People will pay just as much even if Traveler even approaches meta. There's various parts of Genshin Impact that I have to just shake my head at why they do it when the same money will come in regardless. There's no excuse for Hydro Traveler, just zero.
@GraveUypo
@GraveUypo 28 күн бұрын
@@SwobyJ geo traveler is half-decent though. 100% better than anemo
@nonamenoname9550
@nonamenoname9550 28 күн бұрын
Tbh, dendro spec isn't any good either, it's dendro itself that is THAT good. Literally any idiot capable of applying dendro can be useful, but switch them to another element without changing abilities? They'll be forgotten.
@eszterfodor1136
@eszterfodor1136 22 күн бұрын
In Star Rail the trailblazer just got his / her 3rd Harmony form and it's good!
@CynotheWhite
@CynotheWhite Ай бұрын
Imagine being unable to maintain some consistency for the MAIN CHARACTER of your game.
@leonzen2958
@leonzen2958 Ай бұрын
As for the La Signora fight, I personally believe that though she had the strength of the 8th position when appointed, she gradually lost a lot of fighting strength due to her Cryo Delusion and the Crimson Flame eating away at her. Also makes sense that her title is "The Crimson Witch of Embers" as she is not the "The Crimson Witch of Flames" she once was. Maybe also why she had resorted to diplomacy over violence throughout the Prologue & Acts: 1 & 2 of the Archon Quests. Side note: The Traveler has simply acted as a catalyst for the main plot events and fights through which much more powerful entities can take action and by themselves, they simply aren't that powerful.
@proto245
@proto245 Ай бұрын
The real reason she lost is pretty simple. It's bad writing since they needed to have a Fatui weekly boss in Inazuma despite not being the right time to end her story, since now she is one of the sore spots within the community as wasted potential. I don't think players even accept her defeat since they could've easily made her escape, but she had to die since there were no plans to make her playable.
@leonzen2958
@leonzen2958 Ай бұрын
@@proto245 I agree with you about the bad writing regarding her death. However, her being defeated by Traveler is not that far-fetched.
@friggen_roylty4368
@friggen_roylty4368 Ай бұрын
​@@proto245 I wouldn't say bad writing. The Traveler fighting and winning against the 8th harbinger after handling their own against the 11th isn't all that bad of an expectation. Now, Raiden stepping forth and taking the W is bad writing as...yes, Signora could've escaped after losing to us.
@amosp9411
@amosp9411 Ай бұрын
Yeah that's one thing a lot of people don't realize; Signora was once known as the "Crimson Witch of Flames" and is now known as the "Crimson Witch of Embers", implying that her flames are no where near as destructive as it used to be. It's also worth mentioning that her boss-drop item description states that "her flames turned to embers over the years" or something; I'm pretty sure this is the game saying that she became a lot weaker from the time she was appointed
@NewNecro
@NewNecro Ай бұрын
​@@proto245 The issue here isn't her death itself but Traveler beating a fairly high ranked Fatui. They could've made any reason for Signora breaching any made-up duel etiquette and Raiden killing her before the duel was over, or Signora being nerfed by some off-screen event but we beat her fair and square right then and there, which doesn't line up with prowess of other Harbingers.
@electrobrotm217
@electrobrotm217 Ай бұрын
Meet the Traveler, Genshin's "Potential Man". Only as strong or as smart as the writers decide. And sadly, the writers are playing spin-the-bottle with every new quest.
@ibrahim5463
@ibrahim5463 Ай бұрын
Ok don't go that far at least the traveller most impessive feat isn't low diffing some highschoolers
@aldyzero6676
@aldyzero6676 29 күн бұрын
That my friend, is called inconsistency
@No-cc1fq
@No-cc1fq 29 күн бұрын
Give me freedom Give me fire Give me a hoarder or i retire.. -Fraudeller
@Goran-eo5uc
@Goran-eo5uc 18 күн бұрын
​@@ibrahim5463their greatest feat was handling a rock using their signature super geo attack!
@imperialsarcasm
@imperialsarcasm Ай бұрын
The way how I see it Childe is always improving so it stands to reason he could have passed Signora in power who is long dead. Plus he spent at least 40 days fighting that whale and survived to tell the tale. Traveller however has shown no such dedication to get stronger and just half heartedly moves between the regions collecting elements like pokemon and doing nothing to practice them. Like come on Nahida tells you the top 3 of an antagonist organization you keep fighting are god tier and number 2 already knocked you out by just being in the room. You think you can get away with no training? In fact, Childe even scratched Neuvillette to show how much he has grown, meanwhile Traveller can't even move against Arlecchino.
@DainajaxXD
@DainajaxXD Ай бұрын
You know why? Because Tartaglia is the true goat, he's a gigachat, he is the main character he's always improving and getting stronger. He's doing his best and I believe in his abilities as childe main I have pure faith in him 🗿
@Desiree-nq7ig
@Desiree-nq7ig 29 күн бұрын
@@DainajaxXD gigachat
@DainajaxXD
@DainajaxXD 29 күн бұрын
@@Desiree-nq7ig I always had confidence in my boy, he's the only DPS that I mean, mostly, I haven't pulled for any of those so called top 3 because I don't care, I only play the game for this guy
@dragonmasterxyz3544
@dragonmasterxyz3544 Ай бұрын
One correction is that its pretty odd to assume that Childe is the same level of power he was in Liyue. Dude trains and gets stronger constantly. So its more than likely he has surpassed Signora in power at this point which isn't hard to assume seeing as, well....she's dead.
@z.e.v
@z.e.v Ай бұрын
even in Liyue, if people even tried to remember the dialogue he literally states after we "defeat him" that the foul legacy took a toll and his body and that he "didn't think this through". this is further confirmed by the achievement you get for beating that boss fight which reads "I'll Let You Off... This Time", I don't think the traveler would be the one saying that, right? maybe back then the traveler did indeed match his vision form. but as you can see in the first cutscene as soon as he switched to his delusion we were on the ground... that is until we used elemental powers, but there's no way to know if we would have beaten delusion childe if the fight had continued after that scene, because instead, childe lost his cool and activated his foul legacy which is probably the reason he lost the fight, ironically, for the reasons I stated above. I feel like the only people who remember these details are people who actually like the character such as myself, while other people have many misconceptions about him.
@dragonmasterxyz3544
@dragonmasterxyz3544 Ай бұрын
@z.e.v Indeed, that is also an important detail at that point is that Foul Legacy drained Childe much faster and Childe acted rashly and fought more recklessly than he would usually. Not like that really matters to the Signora point. For me, we surpassed Liyue Childe (Foul Legacy Included) by Inazuma, but as of Fontaine, Foul Legacy Childe seems to be above us.
@z.e.v
@z.e.v Ай бұрын
@@dragonmasterxyz3544 I totally agree.
@luisfillipebeserra2108
@luisfillipebeserra2108 Ай бұрын
​@@dragonmasterxyz3544I don't see how, childe spent 43 days fighting narwhal and it didn't even care about him, however narwhal suffered damage when the traveler fought inside it because neuvillete alone couldn't cause internal damage to it because it was mixed with the primordial water
@DainajaxXD
@DainajaxXD Ай бұрын
​@@luisfillipebeserra2108I think it was stated by the company itself that he spent a lot of time in the primordial sea, and even if you don't care about him, which I still respect you as a person, but back to the point, he's getting stronger and stronger. He's only increasing in his abilities and improving his skills as childe main I have never doubted in his abilities, and I always put my faith on him because I know that he's only getting stronger. I believe in him that's why 🗿
@nawu7411
@nawu7411 Ай бұрын
his/her power so inconsistent that it affects his Hydro form..
@pc14thenumber9
@pc14thenumber9 Ай бұрын
I fear what Traveler Pyro form... it's just shooting firework from fingertip and at 1 meter range with 30 second cooldown.
@frostknight7687
@frostknight7687 Ай бұрын
@pc14thenumber9 lit candle that deal no damage and traveller scale with em in that element.
@Saren_5
@Saren_5 Ай бұрын
Did they ever use dendro or hydro in a cutscene now that i thinkaboutit? Even the fusing element part was ditched he was basically going powerless against arlecchino for 0 reasons (in game, outside is clearly meant to put arlecchino in a good light so people pull for her)
@nawu7411
@nawu7411 Ай бұрын
yeah.. they never use Traveler double/triple/quad elements no more... only during Childe boss, probably one when they can change element during Navia's scene.. but then its like they've forgotten if Traveler knows how to use double element.. as Traveler main, he brings more disappointment the more patch we have..
@iosis9324
@iosis9324 Ай бұрын
​@@Saren_5Traveler used the dendro during Nahida's second story quest and possibly somewhere else.
@SnappyMaw32
@SnappyMaw32 Ай бұрын
I just saw this bullet points on Reddit and to be fair, this is not the first time the Traveller got humbled: -Traveller Got thrown by Osial's wife breath (Beisht) -Got knock down by Scaramouche's purple fart on the Inazuma AQ Quest -Defeated by Raiden but was saved by Thoma (as the video showed) -Nearly got slashed by Raiden but was saved by powered up Kazuha with his dead friend's vision -Early get defeated by Raiden again but got saved by Yae and 100 visions on statue -Got defeated 168x by Scaramouche but again saved with a power up from Kusanali and with the help of Sumeru citizen The fight between Arlecchino and the Traveller w/ the trio probably only(?) for shock value. That being said, the cut scene where Arlecchino said "Still...not strong enough to beat me" might suggests that she is expecting the Traveller to get stronger at some point during his journey? Also, from my perspective, the Traveller is more of a "catalyst" to the natives of Teyvat to defeat their enemies rather than just naturally powerful.
@blad3thompson
@blad3thompson Ай бұрын
I'd like to make 1 note about the 168 battles against Scaramouche. Those 168 loops were all within SCARAMOUCHE'S DREAM, since that was who the power of dreams was used on.
@8610gggdd
@8610gggdd Ай бұрын
They way you said Beisht's breath and Scara's fart 😂
@galaxylife5783
@galaxylife5783 Ай бұрын
​@@blad3thompsonhe wasn't able to wake up at all from himself while he was a supposed "god" and Traveler never got a power boost but a boost about knowledge about how to beat him properly and dodge his attacks
@spirit6323
@spirit6323 Ай бұрын
you forgot that time when the traveller was knock-out by Dottore's spotify playlist
@galaxylife5783
@galaxylife5783 Ай бұрын
@@spirit6323 best thing Dottore created though it's hilarious and hurtful XD
@vermillionz451
@vermillionz451 Ай бұрын
The one thing that I don't like is how the game fails to properly display the capabilities of the traveler's power at least at this stage in the story. When it comes to any other character they have no problem (like shenhe freezing an entire tidal wave) Its even more evident in the arlecchino boss fight because that simply doesn't look like a traveler thats been through five nations, that acquired 5 elements and has them at their disposal, and that has been in countless life or death fights. He would've still lost cuz rank 4th is crazy, but from the current traveler I expected a better showing.
@traior246
@traior246 Ай бұрын
As the 4th Harbinger, Arleccino, fought the fraud, Nara Varuna. She begins to open her domain. Traveler shrunk back in fear and Arle said : "You're strong, but not strong enough to beat me." Edit: Nara Varuna is the Abyss Twin, Traveler is the Golden Nara. Was just in need of a cool title for this chicanery.
@alexstaro
@alexstaro 29 күн бұрын
based brainrot, however im pretty sure Nara Varuna refers to the abyss twin
@Infelious
@Infelious 29 күн бұрын
@@alexstaro Its both isn't it? They refer to the Twin of the past but also the current because they remind them so much of Abyss Twin.
@tomixravenloss
@tomixravenloss 29 күн бұрын
@@Infelious No, not once do they CALL the traveler Nara Varuna, only compare to the Nara Varuna/Abyss Twin of the past.
@davidm4171
@davidm4171 28 күн бұрын
I believe Arlecchino could solo the abyss twin by herself at this point lol 😂
@kra6958
@kra6958 27 күн бұрын
Nara Varuna is abyss twin. Aranara called Traveller the golden Nara
@danieldodson6789
@danieldodson6789 29 күн бұрын
Canonically, the traveler is supposed to get stronger with each element they collect, but Mihoyo hasn't done a good job of demonstrating that. Also, it does make sense that one of traveler's greatest strengths, a high afinity for the elements, is also a weakness that can be exploited against them, since that was what happened in Sumeru with the incense and in Fontaine with the oceanid. Still this makes me miss the days of Ho3 where protagonists were allowed to be badass powerhouses. It's hard to believe these stories are written by the same people when the quality differs so much.
@jdhdjdjeodkfjek6921
@jdhdjdjeodkfjek6921 28 күн бұрын
1. this stories most certainly aren't written by same people, i doubt even genshin itself has same writers for these 3 years. 2. even in hi3rd we had Bronya who was basically power boost for other characters 4 times in a row, and she is one of the main characters. hoyo plot writing is mid in general, the lore is cool tho, in both games. but dialogue and plot parts suffer a lot
@anthonymanggoi1337
@anthonymanggoi1337 Ай бұрын
The Traveler is more like a 'catalyst' for change rather than a 'sword'-wielding, always-victorious warrior. An attribute that could assist against Celestia
@OPardalzin
@OPardalzin Ай бұрын
It's impressive that the same company that has Kiana Kaslana, is the one that has the Traveler, because the difference in how they write their protagonists is so huge! The Traveler to me at this point is just...a plot device, not even a character, and I really liked them a lot in the beginning. Compared to Kiana and even the Trailblazer (even the other protagonists from the other Hoyo games) they just flop. The Kiana from the beginning of HI3 is very different from the one in the middle, who is different from the one in the end of part 1. We see her change, grow, cry, grieve, fight tooth and nail to protect her friends, get stronger , get new powers and even sacrifice herself. Kiana chooses things by herself and death affects her to the end. From Herrscher of the Void, to Flamescion to Herrscher of Finality. The Traveler doesn't change, even after all their battles and adventures they're still static, the same. Most experiences of the past ventures don't follow through in the ''character's'' mind unless it's very convenient, the few deaths we have, not even Signora's, don't stick to their mind or change them or develop them much. It's like they're a blank sheet at the beginning of every nation. All that happens in one nation stays in said nation, until it's convenient for the Traveler or Paimon to remember it happened. Most of the time, the Traveler doesn't act because they want to, but because someone asks them to, or Paimon just pushes them into doing it. ''Right Traveler?''. And that's when they're not being inconsistent or annoying, like in the Furina quest. I can't believe that the Traveler who saw all of Furina's struggles and pains is the same one in the quest. Even in their objective of finding their sibling, is something that's only brought up once or twice in the Archon Quests, so we can remember that it's what they actually want. Because it really doesn't seem like they want that, most of the time they seem to forget their sibling and we spend another year without them ever mentioning the other. They have 5 elements at their disposal, but they never use it in battle. They could be a Avatar-like character, causing multiple reactions at a time and make battles super dynamic but they don't. It's just wasted potential at this point. The Traveler doesn't need to be overpowered and can still lose, but them not using all the experience they have is just weird.
@nobody-xh6ii
@nobody-xh6ii Ай бұрын
Don't even get me started on the furina quest... "I still need answers" angered me so much. Like to traveler that was the ONLY REASON worth saving her! And then the way they treated her [in CN ITS WORSE!] The worst crime furina did was be pressured by her people to put lyney on trial when she called him a prime suspect only. Yet raiden, a tantrum throwing cry baby b!tch who tried to kill them.. MULTIPLE TIMES! ESPECIALLY AT THEIR WEAKEST! Gets a fking date!? Traveler seriously feels like a tool at this point and someone at hoyo LOVES raiden. [It was even leaked by someone in CN how someone in hoyo hated furina but loved neuvillette]
@Maki420_.
@Maki420_. Ай бұрын
Maybe the devs are lazy to animate his 5 elements with an epic animated cutscene, u know its okay to lose atleast the traveller can used his 5 elements against arlecchino
@tyrkdlesath
@tyrkdlesath Ай бұрын
@@nobody-xh6ii lmao go and read the lore again, alot of fake information in this commentary, Commitment to her vision: The Raiden Shogun is deeply committed to her vision of eternity and the pursuit of the Vision Hunt Decree. She believes that by collecting all the visions, she can create a world without suffering, where humanity no longer relies on the divine power of visions. Her commitment to this vision is unwavering, and from her perspective, she is sacrificing her own humanity for the greater good. Heavy burden of responsibility: As the ruler of Inazuma, the Raiden Shogun carries the heavy burden of responsibility for her people. She believes that her actions, no matter how drastic, are necessary to ensure the stability and prosperity of her nation. In her mind, the end justifies the means, even if it means sacrificing individual freedoms for the greater good. Different perspective on eternity: The Raiden Shogun's concept of eternity is vastly different from that of normal humans. While humans may view eternity as an endless continuation of life, she sees it as the absence of change and suffering. Her pursuit of eternity is driven by a desire to end the cycle of suffering caused by the constant conflict over visions. She cares for her people: Despite her seemingly cold and ruthless demeanor, the Raiden Shogun cares deeply for the people of Inazuma. She believes that by ending the era of the Vision Bearers, she can create a more stable and prosperous society for her people. Her actions, however extreme, are driven by a desire to protect her nation from internal and external threats. Questionable means for a noble end: While her methods may be questionable, the Raiden Shogun genuinely believes that she is acting in the best interests of her people. From her perspective, sacrificing individual freedoms and collecting all the visions are necessary steps to achieve her vision of a world without suffering. Loneliness and isolation: Despite her power and authority, the Raiden Shogun is deeply lonely and isolated. She carries the burden of leadership alone and struggles with feelings of isolation and detachment from her people. This loneliness has shaped her worldview and contributed to her willingness to make difficult decisions for the greater good. She tried her best all alone for hundreds of years, try to stay alone for 1 weak, and see what happens. On the other hand, Furina is straight-up weak in every freaking aspect. She lacks power, combat skills, mental strength, and even personality. Despite being over 500 years old, she acts like a 14-year-old teenager. Even Fischl is more mature than Furina, lol. Don't get me wrong, I really like Furina, but she hasn't done anything for her people; she's just been crying for 500 years. The real Hydro Archon was the true GOAT. Even after 500 years, Furina couldn't fight Arllechino; she just ran and cried. I like Furina, but unlike Raiden, she didn't even try.
@raiden8063
@raiden8063 Ай бұрын
@@nobody-xh6ii your ignorance is showing.
@tyrkdlesath
@tyrkdlesath Ай бұрын
Firstly, the Traveler's role in "Genshin Impact" is more akin to a player avatar rather than a fully developed character like Kiana. The Traveler is meant to represent the player, which limits the depth of their characterization to allow players to project themselves onto the protagonist. In contrast, Kiana Kaslana is a predefined character with a rich backstory and a predetermined personality, allowing for a more complex and dynamic character arc. Additionally, while the Traveler's objective of finding their sibling may not be explicitly mentioned in every quest, it serves as the driving force behind their journey and is periodically revisited throughout the game. The absence of frequent mentions is likely a deliberate narrative choice to prevent the storyline from becoming repetitive or monotonous. And the Traveler never disrespected Furina; he treated her well. However, Furina is not a saint; she tried to pick a fight with the Traveler straight up when they arrived at Fontaine. Moreover, she tried to falsely accuse an innocent man and put him in jail without any evidence, relying solely on the brute force of her argument. The argument about siblings is laughable. In the quest, when the Traveler finally meets their sibling, the sibling says, "Go and visit all seven nations." Yes, finding the sibling is the initial goal, but afterwards, the goal becomes exploring all seven nations and understanding each of them. While there are five elements, the game states that only one can be used at a time. Claiming that the Traveler doesn't use elemental powers is untrue. There are numerous cutscenes where they use elemental powers. The main power of the Traveler is light, not the seven elements. Without light, the Traveler is better at sword fighting than using elemental energy. Trying to use elemental energy against someone like Arlechinno is ineffective: Geo (throwing a small rock at an elephant), Electro (trying to electrocute a tiger with a 1-volt battery), Hydro (throwing a water balloon at a whale's head), Anemo (blowing air in someone's face), Dendro (throwing seeds at a lion's head). Why would the Traveler use these powers for no reason, only to waste stamina? I can provide at least ten examples of cutscenes where the Traveler uses powers off the top of my head. The Traveler has changed. In Liyue and Mondstadt, the Traveler helped without asking too many questions, showing immature behavior. In Inazuma, the Traveler tried a lot to avoid getting involved on any side and to avoid fighting anyone. In Dendro, the Traveler is much smarter; they think a lot before making decisions and know their role in all of it. So yes, the Traveler is not like Kiana because Kiana is not a self-insert type of protagonist like the Traveler. The Traveler's personality is intentionally bland to make it easier for most players to identify with them. However, over time, the Traveler undergoes more development and matures. In the current state of the game, they show a lot more intelligence than they did at the start. And let me prove this, is dificult to find traveler haters, but kiana haters? lmao everywhere in the comunity.
@sirius_sus
@sirius_sus Ай бұрын
I believe what we players are dealing with here is the thing called "Gameplay and Story segregation",where,for example, we could easily curbstomp everything in Gameplay,but it's completely opposite in Story.
@Mana-qp4uw
@Mana-qp4uw Ай бұрын
that literally has nothing to do with this
@sirius_sus
@sirius_sus Ай бұрын
@@Mana-qp4uw It's just one of the symptoms of an ulterior problem, the lazy writing.
@nicolas._.2294
@nicolas._.2294 Ай бұрын
I think what we see here is called "dumb delusional people ignoring facts and overhyping the traveler just for them(the people)to be slapped in the face by arrlechino and now being disappointed and trash talking the traveler becs their(the people)own delusion was just a delusion"
@mileniumshadowvn6652
@mileniumshadowvn6652 Ай бұрын
@@sirius_sus LOL you dont event clear the game using only the traveler, try to only use the traveler and you will see that is not that diferent from story
@iosis9324
@iosis9324 Ай бұрын
Gameplay and Story merge. Where you can't easily curbstomp everything in gameplay with just Traveler and you need the help of four other characters to do this, and in the story its the same.
@heeldemon
@heeldemon Ай бұрын
Imagine if Signora also just shows up alive in Natlan/Shenznaya and goes "Oh I wasn't killed, your ass was so weak I lost on purpose out of pity" 💀
@galaxytruth2823
@galaxytruth2823 Ай бұрын
That'll legit piss lot people lmao especially onces grinded probably 3 years
@VoidBornHuman
@VoidBornHuman Ай бұрын
1: That'd be retarded and garbage writing. She's not the type to lose on purpose, especially when her life is on the line. 2: She's not surviving getting Judgement Cut End'd by Ei.
@celestialarden
@celestialarden Ай бұрын
lmfao then by that logic the raiden shogun will suddenly burst onto the scene and agree with Signora saying that she was just playing along and that traveler actually is the loser of that fight. Then Raiden pulls out the sword towards the traveler again and says "Stand proud traveler, you're strong" And then the next archon quest will be Paimon going on a villain arc.
@quantranhong1092
@quantranhong1092 Ай бұрын
that's some burns from witch of ember dude :)))))))))))
@amosp9411
@amosp9411 Ай бұрын
LMAAOOOO
@liable2you
@liable2you Ай бұрын
Traveler is strong, no more further arguments than previous statement, however one man fighter cannot survive without any reinforcement nor buff, which was the reason why Traveler seems like a deflated balloon in the middle of crisis from beginning (Dvalin rampage at Mondstadt City) to Arlecchino Boss. This is also why Traveler and Traveler's Sibling are one team, the implications was very clear that Traveler's true strength was from teamwork.
@Hax_again
@Hax_again Ай бұрын
Copium
@Wrath0
@Wrath0 Ай бұрын
Well my level 1 amber can clear the whole abyss but she'll need neuvillete in the team that doesn't mean amber is strong does it? Stop the cope
@Cat_Garfield
@Cat_Garfield Ай бұрын
​@@Hax_againAverage human interaction
@vr4893
@vr4893 Ай бұрын
​@@Wrath0well did your amber pull her own weight in the team? Because i feel at the very least, we pulled our own weight in this fight.
@kateliza8922
@kateliza8922 Ай бұрын
​@@Wrath0 your analogy is more copium dude.
@ahmadrehanalfariz5920
@ahmadrehanalfariz5920 Ай бұрын
The reason for all of that is... To sell the character through the story. In navia questline, aether literally get sideline to the point he got aid against a frickin boulder by navia. Im glad in hsr even if mc doesnt win against cornerstone aventurine, he still use his lance and tried his best, hell even aventurine actually recognize the lance. Thats enough prove that trailblazer actually IMPROVES.
@thanglongnguyenvu3815
@thanglongnguyenvu3815 Ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly. They need to nerf the traveller to highlight the other characters. The flame lady that stole Venti's Gnosus lost pathetically to the Traveller because she was not playable.
@sm_dubs5461
@sm_dubs5461 Ай бұрын
This is the actual truth. Genshin’s team will never allow the traveler to upstage the playable characters. Whether it’s in kit or cutscenes, traveler will always be made to play second fiddle to the limited characters. And this seems like a thing exclusive to Genshin where they regularly embarrass the main character to prop up the others.
@asdfasdf11835
@asdfasdf11835 Ай бұрын
Traveler also improves but you just want him/her to become OP generic trash isekai MC who never lose and no need to get help from another people. Also HSR is only 1 year, the same time traveler defeat signora with his/her own power. the "real" threat in HSR is not come out yet.
@aldyzero6676
@aldyzero6676 Ай бұрын
​@@asdfasdf11835reading comprehention: 0 Copium: 100
@silverhawkscape2677
@silverhawkscape2677 Ай бұрын
​@@asdfasdf11835No tbey dont. They always needed a Power up buff from others.
@Yakoara
@Yakoara 29 күн бұрын
Consider this perspective: the traveler is currently operating without their full power. Imagine the immense potential they hold once they regain their complete strength - they would be an unstoppable force. Moreover, there is a possibility that they may engage in battles again in the future. It's essential to recognize that the traveler isn't currently performing at their peak strength. In past encounters, the traveler never utilized multiple elements simultaneously, unlike in the world quest or when facing adversaries like Childe. Therefore, it is evident that the traveler's intention was not solely to emerge victorious; rather, they were simply aiming to leave a lasting impression.
@briantarigan7685
@briantarigan7685 Ай бұрын
Traveler is definitely not the strongest being in Tevyat, but i don't think he's as weak as some people said, he still soloed Childe and Signora, that's undeniable, which means that Traveler's current power is above them, even in the battle that he assist, Traveler is still one of the main and vital combat power Yes, it is true that adepti's power greatly help in the defeat of osial, but let's not forget that it is they themselves that said that Traveler is the only one with constitution strong enough to hold all their power, in the battle with shogun and Ei, it is true that we " won" due to the wills of all Inazuma, but i think everyone forget that we are the only warrior in the entire Inazuma that could last long against Shogun In the battle against god-scaramouche, yes, we are GREATLY assisted by Nahida's power and Hax, but even Nahida can't defeat scaramouche alone, Traveler are the only one with strong enough constitution to become a warrior proxy for Nahida
@stephenkur5292
@stephenkur5292 Ай бұрын
most of the time he use dullblade and rarely use her elemental power which means that he is lack of speed and mentallity thats why he or she always get knock unconscious and get mind manipulated . everyone was complaining that why he didnt use her elemental power during arlecchino fight . remember arlecchino is fourth fatui and decendant of khanrhiea crimson moon dynasty while having a vision and a deulusion and cursed flame power her speed might be faster than childe thats cause traveler to really cant solely rely on his or her elemental power
@stephenkur5292
@stephenkur5292 Ай бұрын
cost*
@kateliza8922
@kateliza8922 Ай бұрын
​@@stephenkur5292pls use commas, you first grader.
@Auramaki_
@Auramaki_ Ай бұрын
Also we're playing a nerfed version of the traveler. They lost their original powers in the beginning. I hope we get it back someday
@Ayzev
@Ayzev Ай бұрын
"even Nahida" She's a child by god standards, she herself says she doesn't have the full power of an archon, and Dottore was able to threaten her like it's nothing
@OdetoImagination-gk5vm
@OdetoImagination-gk5vm 23 күн бұрын
Interesting how the video failed to mention that the reason the traveler was knocked out in Fontaine was due to a heightened hydro sensitivity caused by drinking water of the primordial sea that was intended to dissolve Navia, which allowed the Oceanid in the fountain to basically mindnap them. Mind you this water wasn't the impure stuff in the Sinthe Vasher was distributing, but the unadulterated stuff added to a beverage with the intent to silence someone permanently. In Sumaru, it was probably from it being their first exposure to the incense, and partially from Rukkadavata reaching out. I'm pretty sure it would be normal to have an intense trip when exposed to a new psychedelic drug for the first time and I'm sure it was not a small amount either seeing as that researcher had been using it meditate for a while and people tend to build up tolerances to drugs over time and thus needing higher doses to achieve the same effect. As for the memory clone of Scara's mech, that was a surprise attack from an enemy that the traveler has already defeated, who's pilot was standing in front of them. So it's bull that they used the traveler being supprised by the laser attack as evidence. Dottore is also a different matter, he is literally an evil scientist who has gone through great lengths to research the human body, and exploited a weakness that most flesh and blood creatures have, sound waves, specifically frequencies out of a typical person's range of hearing. He also did this out of the blue when the traveler had just finished fighting Scara and had let down their guard. Most of the things the video shows as signs of the traveler being weak would also affect most of the other characters just as badly if not worse (as with Fontaine characters and the primordial seawater). While I agree that the traveler is, as they are now, is not overpowering god level threats on their own, heck most of the Fatui Harpenders could take them out, the OP seems to be conveniently ignoring aspects of the story where the traveler can actually stand on their own against strong opponents. Not sure if it is just because they didn't look deep enough into the lore and story of the game, or they just enjoy bashing the traveler. Personally I clicked on the video expecting actual observations and keen insight into why they think the traveler is a fraud, but was highly disappointed by this surface level observations and shallow reasoning. Can't believe KZfaq recommended this to me after a Game Theory video, the difference in quality is jarring. I've seen other genshin theories from other creators and at least when they question the traveler's power level they use actually evidence other than complaining about how many times the traveler has gotten help or passed out after literally being poisoned or drugged. As the gen alphas say, you ain't cooking, get your shallow skibidi fanum taxed gyat over to some real genshin theorists and learn something from them about critical thinking before your next post. Best wishes.
@hellother52
@hellother52 20 күн бұрын
i want to hear ur opinion on if the traveler would lose to current childe or not childe became stronger but so did the traveler
@TheCatWhoAteTheCanary
@TheCatWhoAteTheCanary 19 күн бұрын
I agree with most of what you say, except the part where you think this channel isn't good. Most of the content is good but this particular one seemed like a traveler diss track. They should be comparing things to normal people from teyvat. Not the unfair things that happen. Poison or things that are considered one shots shouldn't be included. Poisons that would cripple anyone else even with medicine should be a pro, not a con.
@croissora
@croissora 6 күн бұрын
⁠​⁠@@TheCatWhoAteTheCanaryi agree, i like most of this channels content but as you said, but this really does feel like a traveller diss track
@Negolossauro
@Negolossauro 27 күн бұрын
Traveler's power level is very inconsistent, but he seems to be getting stronger after unlocking each element. The same way he got buffed, most of his "losses" are related with somekind of debuffs, poisons and as you said, psychological attacks. Childe's position isn't related directly with his power level, but also with the fact he is the last and youngest among them, and he is not much important to the operations in other ways further than fighting. Also, he says in his story quest he got stronger than the day we fought. We must remember he is a teenager yet, he is evolving like us.
@SoinEight
@SoinEight Ай бұрын
Some people have this misconception that being a descender and having 'will to rival the world' means the traveller will have to become the most powerful being in teyvat, also overlooking that many people helped him in each fight throughout the journey, Thank you for making this video to highlight this.
@EnderBroadcast
@EnderBroadcast Ай бұрын
The reason why Traveler needs so much help to deal with these threats is because he hasn't regained all his power yet. Him having the will to rival the whole world likely means he will one day rise above all as the most powerful entity in Teyvat, as is the case with literally any other Descender.
@Vill-V_of_Helix
@Vill-V_of_Helix Ай бұрын
That's right, the only thing thatTraveler has on their favor to "rival the world", is that they aren't chained to "Destiny" (I could even put them in a comparison with Kiana from Honkai; not in power, nor story of course; but in circumstances. Traveler is absolutely out of the story, while Kiana is in a mid-region where she IS and IS NOT Kiana Kaslana; since, biologically, Durandal is Kiana, while Kiana is half Kiana and Half Sirin..... But that's why she could surpass Finality's power and control; I think Traveler is in some kind of similar situation of being a Liminal Entity; he is and isn't part of Teyvat's Destiny/Fortune/Finality at the same time)
@ThebestNiloumain
@ThebestNiloumain Ай бұрын
⁠@@EnderBroadcastAsmoday kinda like easily defeated both twins so uh but ig she could count as a Descender
@SoinEight
@SoinEight Ай бұрын
​​@@EnderBroadcast it seems highly unlikely that even after acquiring his full power he will be the strongest among teyvatian entities or outlanders determined by strength because he is a descender and that is what "will to rival the world" implies. Instead just like @vill said, it may be something related to the traveller being not affected by change irminsul and the yet to know concept of fate
@EnderBroadcast
@EnderBroadcast Ай бұрын
@@SoinEight If Traveler isn't constrained by fate, Teyvat's laws and also possessed power from beyond the world of Teyvat, then yes, once we regain that power then we could 100% become more powerful than Archons. It's why the only entity that was able to defeat us when we had that original power was the Sustainer, who coincidentally doesn't belong to Teyvat either.
@Adrenalin844
@Adrenalin844 26 күн бұрын
"Ah yes, my shitty protagonist writing technique, I haven't used that since the last update." - miHoYo, probably.
@yagami-chan1059
@yagami-chan1059 Ай бұрын
At this point,I'm just waiting for Capitano to destroy traveler's dull blade
@wiseathena97
@wiseathena97 Ай бұрын
that'd be sick tbh. The traveler is supposed to be a witness to teyvat and the metaphorical/literal imagery of their sword breaking would be a great reminder that "hey my dude. you're not here to be a warrior. you're a witness and a conduit for this current samsara"
@Infelious
@Infelious 29 күн бұрын
The Dull Blade's true power is its unbreakable, its level 1 its the worst sword and its still fine lol.
@hallowvenixya9215
@hallowvenixya9215 28 күн бұрын
@@wiseathena97 Erase the character himself honestly if he's just going to be a glorified punching bag.
@feralsgoose
@feralsgoose 25 күн бұрын
Fr I want capitano to smoke the traveler and his bum ahh dullblade
@kotarouinugami1745
@kotarouinugami1745 17 күн бұрын
Imagine - the fight against Capitano is doing badly. After a particularly powerful strike, the Dull Blade shatters. So the Traveler has to pull all stops... and take out the silver blade.
@aramythr5965
@aramythr5965 Ай бұрын
Traveler is a conduit. Just like the 'remains of the Third Descender'. Traveler is the Fourth. He/she also adapts any element through the statues. This is the reason why so many powerful characters choose the Traveler as the one to channel their (or the people's)power into.
@vr4893
@vr4893 Ай бұрын
Note that the cutscene only includes a small portion of the fight, not the full brawl. Hopefully, this viewpoint could clarify the exchange for those who believed that "the traveller is not using elemental powers for the whole fight." Still, it is granted that this whole debacle could've been avoided by simply giving a single showcase of Traveller's elemental power.
@aeso3555
@aeso3555 Ай бұрын
When you fight the god of a nation only to get knocked out and captured by a kunoichi in a world quest.
@ikhsansyafriestiar793
@ikhsansyafriestiar793 Ай бұрын
Yeah, thats so lame... All those year experience of fighting and yet Traveler still managed to get knocked out by a kunoichi, but thats not really a surprise... Since other peoples can easily get behind Traveler without Traveler noticed until those peoples either decide to let Traveler become aware of their presence, or those peoples speak first and startled Traveler... It really bother me, how can an experience fighter like Traveler who has been fighting all this time, always being so careless and managed to get surprised every single time... Not only Traveler's power is a joke, even Traveler's sense and instinct are joke...
@ghetoknight7801
@ghetoknight7801 Ай бұрын
@@ikhsansyafriestiar793 inazuma was pretty early in that journey, and although liyue and mondstadt forests are by no means peaceful (lots of fatui), I say it's still believable foreign lands, guard down, at the very least I don't want to see it happen again traveller learning from his past mistakes would be an epic reffing eating bad mushrooms, or sleep techs or moments wher ehe's wary of his surroundings (how u be an adventurer camping 24/7 but you getting out like that twice??)
@kotarouinugami1745
@kotarouinugami1745 17 күн бұрын
When you're used to covering up each other's weak spots, and live this way for millions of years, but then cruel gods separate you, and the substitute is only good for eating.
@aeso3555
@aeso3555 13 күн бұрын
​@@kotarouinugami1745 No wonder the siblings are so creepily obsessed with each other.
@kelseyholt9355
@kelseyholt9355 Ай бұрын
My personal theory about signora is that she was already dying. Especially since she emerged from that ice cocoon as her fiery self. The traveler just pushed her over the edge she was already standing on for a long time.
@ghetoknight7801
@ghetoknight7801 Ай бұрын
rather I think she was revived from death, no? she has alot of parallel's to pheonix type chars, so this works I think she might have been gathering her strength with ehr long lasting life, similarly to childe except more lifespan but lower rate orrr she was burnt out, who knows at the very least this definitely wasn't prime signora, or even close to harbinger level combat ability....
@markastyan
@markastyan Ай бұрын
I'd say it's a good thing that the Traveller isn't all that powerful and is constantly helped by others. Adds to the storytelling and makes top 3 harbingers even more scary
@saito1001
@saito1001 Ай бұрын
Not upgrading the MC at any point is going to be a trouble in storytelling when it's necessary. You can't have the traveller continuously needed to have anyone buffing them when the threats are getting crazier and crazier. Story telling wise, it's a terrible writing that shows no development in their journey. It's already bad enough they didn't show much development in characterisation
@silverhawkscape2677
@silverhawkscape2677 Ай бұрын
Meanwhile Trailblazer was seen holding the Flaming lance of Preservation against Aventurine showing that they do keep the new weapons and thus grow in power. Heck. Acheron telling Aventurine that IX doesnt gaze at anyone you have to get the power of Nihility for yourself..by Surviving IX shadow. In short. Trailblazer literally has to grow stronger to eventually be able to acquire the Nihility Path. ​@@saito1001
@homuhomu8373
@homuhomu8373 Ай бұрын
⁠@@saito1001the traveler did progress tho??? Signora could have easily defeated them during the mondstadt aq. The traveler does get stronger every time he gets a new element it just so happens his current strength isn’t enough against arlecchino, i mean he is strong enough for skirk to acknowledge him and he did defeat signora that atleast makes him at around as strong as the 8 maybe 6th harbinger Also i think him losing to arlecchino is build up for the natlan arc since we already know capitano the strongest harbinger is gonna be at natlan and with the fact that natlan is the nation of war, its the perfect opportunity for a training arc/power spike
@asdfasdf11835
@asdfasdf11835 Ай бұрын
@@saito1001 Nah you are just stubborn, OF COURSE you always need someone to help. You are not generic OP isekai trash anime that can do all the things alone and yet never lose.
@aldyzero6676
@aldyzero6676 Ай бұрын
​@@asdfasdf11835go ask yourself in the mirror: Why tf Traveler didn't make use of his/her multiple elemental power when the situation calls for it?
@starryplatinum
@starryplatinum Ай бұрын
in terms of the harbinger power ranking, i think it's based off of all factors of "power". for example; physically, tartaglia is most likely one of the strongest of the fatui in regards to his raw strength, abyssal powers, and pure fighting capability, but he isn't very smart at all, and he's also still a young human man, hence why he's 11th. pantalone on the other hand might not be nearly as strong physically (he doesnt have a vision *yet*), but his economical influence and intelligence is without question incredibly powerful. in a lot of circumstances, brains is stronger than brawn. those who have leverage on both sides are much higher up. like dottore, who not only is exceptionally intelligent but most likely also physically powerful combat-wise, and arlecchino, who has an entire intelligence network at her fingertips as well as her crimson-moon powers. i seriously cannot wait to see capitano in action.
@DainajaxXD
@DainajaxXD Ай бұрын
😊❤
@l__Dark__l
@l__Dark__l 19 күн бұрын
It's funny how Arlecchino's fight with the Traveler was the trigger to finally open the eyes of Genshin players. We were aware of these issues even before Arlecchino, but it went under the radar because the traveler "won" those fights. However, now that the traveler lost while shaking like a coward this was the straw that broke the camel's back.
@captaindanger13
@captaindanger13 Ай бұрын
13:33 The reason why Childe seems strong now is because he's been training. He himself has stated that he's much stronger now than in our liyue battle with him. I think he said that in his story quest, so you can only imagine how much stronger he's gotten since then. Also, Signora being a higher rank than Childe doesn't mean she's physically stronger than him. We know that the harbinger ranks are not based on combat ability alone.
@VioletLeFey
@VioletLeFey Ай бұрын
if the traveller fought against the Trailblazer, we all know who would win xD.
@friggen_roylty4368
@friggen_roylty4368 Ай бұрын
To be fair, the Trailblazer is just as help prone if not more. I mean, a god literally saved them from death.
@Eb-sq3jd
@Eb-sq3jd Ай бұрын
Trailblazer cause they actually have feats of being able to fight against powerful entities
@Algodois
@Algodois Ай бұрын
Trailblazer was helped by the Preservation against Cocolia
@airacousland232
@airacousland232 Ай бұрын
@@Eb-sq3jd And they still get help from more powerful characters. We didn't beat Cocolia, Phantylia or Memory Zone meme alone. I would say TB was practically useless against Phantylia tbh.
@airacousland232
@airacousland232 Ай бұрын
Same for Aventurine, what would TB do against him? Welt and Himeko were getting ready and Acheron basically saved us.
@jericobautista3701
@jericobautista3701 Ай бұрын
This is why Trailblazer/Kiana are better protagonist than the traveler. They have inate powers that awaken within them unlike the traveler that keeps on depending to others for support.
@marshymoo_
@marshymoo_ 26 күн бұрын
I agree on that. Despite the trailblazer only being on their journey for 1 year, I can say that they are stronger than the current day traveler. We have seen huge growth in the trailblazer over the past year, and not just in raw power. I remember just how epic it was seeing the trailblazer unlock the powers of preservation for the first time and face Cocolia alone. Them trudging on in the Xianzhou… and now about to get a major power up with the harmony path. Possibly in a more grand and epic way than when they unlocked the preservation And the trailblazer actually uses the new powers they obtain. Like for example in the aventurine fight. I don’t think there was a single scene where traveler used hydro or dendro, and there’s only 2 scenes where they used 2 elements at once
@pri-ma
@pri-ma Ай бұрын
When will the Genshin team realize that they can do the "5* character marketing" without making Traveler look extremely bad
@Maki420_.
@Maki420_. Ай бұрын
They can't .. honkai is their priority to sell and super sexy characters
@tyrkdlesath
@tyrkdlesath Ай бұрын
Facing off against one of the top 10 strongest beings in all of Teyvat and being called strong doesn't make the Traveler look bad at all. Traveler is nerfed; they don't have access to their light powers. Of course, they would lose against one of the strongest beings in Teyvat.
@consciousnesshidden
@consciousnesshidden Ай бұрын
@@tyrkdlesath that's not the issue, the issue is Traveller having a much better performance of holding off defeat against Ei (who is canonically stronger than Arle), than Arle.
@tyrkdlesath
@tyrkdlesath Ай бұрын
@@consciousnesshidden against Raiden, he was buffed from 100 vision powers, and yae help, against arle he was not.
@naungyoe3215
@naungyoe3215 Ай бұрын
Travellers *losses 2v1 with their full power unlocked at the opening cut scene* people "they are strong, trust me bro"
@HollowSlug-gj3zr
@HollowSlug-gj3zr Ай бұрын
Full power, yes, but traveler fought a god that is probably much more powerful than an archon, Sustainer is often theorized to be one of primordial one's shades, and primordial one essentially reformed the entirety of teyvat. Also, it seems that Sustainer also destroyed khaenriah, which was probably a very powerful and influential nation, seeing as there are many khaenriah remains all over teyvat
@Pikatwig16
@Pikatwig16 Ай бұрын
Also worth noting about the opening, the Traveler is disarmed and separated from their sibling. Others have noted their fighting styles are meant to compliment the other, so the Traveler was fighting unarmed and without the aid of their sibling.
@luisfillipebeserra2108
@luisfillipebeserra2108 Ай бұрын
They are strong enough to cross the imaginary barriers of the imaginary tree, this is more feat than many characters in hoyoverse universe can do
@michapiasta3072
@michapiasta3072 29 күн бұрын
​@@HollowSlug-gj3zr and they didnt land a scratch, Sustainer didnt even needed to move.
@captaindanger13
@captaindanger13 Ай бұрын
Moral of the story, traveler only made it this far using the power of friendship. 😂
@angelliz1207
@angelliz1207 25 күн бұрын
crazy that he's suppose to be some being that travels the stars for god sakes you still make him struggle while still making seem like what he is
@leoulouchlamperz1055
@leoulouchlamperz1055 15 күн бұрын
thats the lore behind friendship level
@user-qe5by9dz6o
@user-qe5by9dz6o 13 күн бұрын
As the strongest Fatui Harbinger, La Signora fought the fraud, the Traveler. She began to open her domain. The Traveler shrunk back in fear. Then, La Signora said : "Stand proud Traveler, you are strong."
@impostorsyndrome1350
@impostorsyndrome1350 Ай бұрын
I love how the Traveler gets stomped by Osial in that one quest
@aboudabueid1166
@aboudabueid1166 29 күн бұрын
Signora was number 8 when she was the crimson witch of flames But when she fights the traveler she is the crimson which of embers Meaning she weakened over time
@SefirZero
@SefirZero Ай бұрын
The main problem I have noticed is that everyone expects the Traveler to be extremely powerful due to them being a Descender and the whole "wills that can rival an entire world" debacle. The strength of the Traveler is in their Will, not their Power, and as said by a lot of the comments, the constant victories from the Traveler against the odds of Teyvat has clouded their judgement and self-value, making them cocky and prone to battle. Given that their stories until now really have a focus in the "Power of Friendship", maybe the wake-up call of their battle with Arlecchino will help them understand that, right now, they aren't ready enough to battle against the Tsarista and the main echelons of the Harbingers, and that they need to recover/get new powers/train their current ones to be able to reach the strength to even confront their siblings (they still have their full power, but no the will to rival Teyvat's Laws). I can even bet that when the Traveler get their proper power up to "Archon" levels, we will get a banner for the Stronger version of them.
@lvwen2028
@lvwen2028 28 күн бұрын
I think the travelers are the victims here, forced to overcome all the real problems in every regions. Even so, they still helping no matter what, because they are not selfish. They're just doing what should be done, and they care about their friends. So, yes, they are not strong, but they deserve the praises because thanks to them, all regions now are in peace. I hope the ending of their journey will be worth it.
@bloddrinkeraka
@bloddrinkeraka 28 күн бұрын
Fr even if they weak ahh they got the will
@Sunnyraen
@Sunnyraen 22 күн бұрын
After getting the Harmony Traiblazer, it is sad to see how the in comparison how Traveler is treated throughout the game with the lack of self improvement and character development. Loses are fine but one grows and gets stronger from it hence the journey of a champion. Unfortunately, when you keep gaining loses again and again, you are just an incompetent weakling.
@odinonion4619
@odinonion4619 21 күн бұрын
Exactly what genshin dev see players are, if they are getting paid no matter how little the improvement is, why bother?
@619KJ
@619KJ Ай бұрын
Why do I have a feeling now that we are going to defeat the final boss with the power of friendship with all these characters?
@xyel9939
@xyel9939 20 күн бұрын
The traveler probably needs the power of 7 gnosis + all visions power from all over teyvat combined + light element + their original sword
@BlaZe-S-editz_
@BlaZe-S-editz_ 26 күн бұрын
It's because Childe's rank is outdated, he suprassed Signora so far
@Vergil69420
@Vergil69420 29 күн бұрын
As Arlecchino unleashed Domain Expansion: Crimson Moon, the Traveler realised and stepped back in fear. "Stand proud, Traveler, you're strong. Still... not strong enough to beat me."
@Eclin
@Eclin Ай бұрын
People think the Traveler is invincible because the Npc’s around them always hail them as the sole hero for every region and most of the credit goes to him alone, even though they actually receives a ton of help to do that. If he actually has permanent companion like the Trailblazer from HSR, i don’t think people will think that way(Paimon is useless), because in HSR the trailblazer is always shown to be fighting with the other nameless, and loses immediatly when fighting alone againts strong enemies(the starcrusher bugs for example). For Trailblazer’s case it’s clear that they receives a lot of help, but for the traveler? I think people just forgot or didn’t read the BS power ups they gain when fighting Raiden and Scara.
@Eb-sq3jd
@Eb-sq3jd Ай бұрын
First and foremost they didn't lose against the star crusher they marely stalled it until it's time ran it out if anything that should show how strong they actually are unlike this dumbass game that only shows how fucking weak the traveler is
@kaitoo1418
@kaitoo1418 Ай бұрын
I think it was mentioned somewhere that the fatui harbingers are not necessarily ranked according to their strength (how strong they are in fights). I think thats why we beat signora, childe is probably more powerful than her but there are other reasons as to why she was the 8th and not just raw strength. I am pretty sure childe is also stronger than pantalone (the regrator) and maybe also the rooster but the reason why they're higher than childe might be because they have other skills like pantalone and finances and rooster as a political figure. (not sure about the finances part of regrator, correct me if im wrong). Also childe is pretty young compared to the rest so maybe even experience is taken into account.
@soulstealer5625
@soulstealer5625 Ай бұрын
No one who buys the rank = combat strength has been able to justify Pantalone being above Childe to me yet.
@asdfasdf11835
@asdfasdf11835 Ай бұрын
FINALLY SOMEONE SAID THIS
@danahassan3038
@danahassan3038 Ай бұрын
Also childe is getting stronger, he is definitely stronger than when we faced he last time
@nobody-xh6ii
@nobody-xh6ii Ай бұрын
The top 3 have been stated to beable to rival the archons. That is 100% a FACT! and capitano is known as the STRONGEST BEING in all of teyvat.
@kaitoo1418
@kaitoo1418 Ай бұрын
@@nobody-xh6ii yeah i wasnt trying to deny that, i was just trying to justify the fact that we defeated signora being the 8th but even so childe could be stronger being the 11th
@Giadea
@Giadea 27 күн бұрын
About Signora, She was quite literally dying, we honestly don't know how much of her original power was even left. Even her second stage intro basically says she's severely weakened. So in all honesty she was most likely over half dead from her own powers eating her alive, maybe in Natland we will get a chance to rekindle the crimson witch of flames.
@3velyn0
@3velyn0 24 күн бұрын
I actually literally want to see a training arc at this point bc like if traveller trained in Mondsdat, Liyue, Inazuma, Sumeru, and Fontaine learning how each Nation fights and their different styles WE ARE STUCK LEARNING NO FIGHTING EXPERIENCE!!! TO IMPROVE!!
@Gnidel
@Gnidel 19 күн бұрын
There was a training arc in Inazuma.
@zMoirax
@zMoirax 9 күн бұрын
@@Gnidel It was really short and only so to learn how to fight Ei specifically
@Daivd1111
@Daivd1111 Ай бұрын
In lore it make sense, because Signoura is 8th and Arlecchino is 4th, we are somewhere in between.
@Infelious
@Infelious 29 күн бұрын
People are ignoring that harbinger status is based on political power too, its not pure raw power though it obviously plays a massive part.
@aldyzero6676
@aldyzero6676 29 күн бұрын
Harbinger's rank is determined through the time they join, not through power.
@edgarjuarez2241
@edgarjuarez2241 Ай бұрын
The only thing wrong in this video is the assumption that Signora is stronger than Childe during the fight with the whale, she might be 8th but Childe has been getting stronger ever since Liyue, while Signora's been a bit busy being dead.
@justsomeguywithgreenhair
@justsomeguywithgreenhair Ай бұрын
Well, saying childe had surpassed signora in terms of strengh at that point of the story is an Assumption itself. Matter of fact, signora was ranked 8th, so it's very reasonable to assume that she was stronger than Childe, the 11th, no?
@edgarjuarez2241
@edgarjuarez2241 Ай бұрын
@@justsomeguywithgreenhair Signora in Inazuma was definitely stronger than Childe in Liyue, but in the Inazuman labyrinth event where we meet Shiki Taisho, Paimon states Childe is stronger than us by saying "He's the strongest one here". If we managed to beat Signora by ourselves just before that, her statement directly implies Childe is currently stronger than Signora, and considering he is canonically ALWAYS getting stronger to imply he's still weaker seems like a stretch.
@galaxylife5783
@galaxylife5783 Ай бұрын
​@@justsomeguywithgreenhairHarbinger aren't ranked by strengths you know ? They are ranked by capacities and utility in what Tartaglia says in the cn... you seriously think Pantalone who has no vision and isn't a fighter ( maybe has a delusion ) is stronger than Tartaglia? You believe Pulcinella outside of being a non human is stronger than Scaramouche a prototype created by the Electro archon w Khaenri'ah technologies ???
@justsomeguywithgreenhair
@justsomeguywithgreenhair Ай бұрын
@@edgarjuarez2241 That's what I was saying. La Signora was indeed stronger than him at that point in time. But anywa. Genshin and their inconsistency.
@justsomeguywithgreenhair
@justsomeguywithgreenhair Ай бұрын
@galaxylife5783 That may or may not be true, but why would you be so sure about Pulcinella's and Pantalone's strength? Il Dottore is stronger than Nahida in terms of combat prowess. Nahida, as weak as she is in this regard, is still an Archon nonetheless. Childe himself can't understand why Columbina is ranked 3. We can't be certain about something unless we get solid ideas and details about it.
@drpaimon2369
@drpaimon2369 14 күн бұрын
I see a lot of people here saying they think the travelers writing is inconsistent. But I disagree. Is the writing good? Well... Not really. But it's also not inconsistent. I'd say that the traveler is consistently weak. His power comes from being able to resonantie with other ambitions it seems. That's why it might _seem_ inconsistent. The reason why I think he was still able to defeat La Signora, is just because I'm still convinced there's more to the Fatui's ranking than just raw strength. Like I'm pretty sure that Tartaglia is stronger than Arlecchino. The traveler also never really 'beat' Tartaglia. Remember the cutscene between the two phases? In that moment he teleports behind us. If he was set on defeating us, that's where we'd loose. As for the final phase, we were more surviving until his foul legacy wore of more than anything. I also want to refer to the travelers star motif. They are of course shooting stars. What do people to shooting stars? The make a wish upon them. I feel like this is the travelers purpose in teyvat. They were never meant to be amazingly strong, unless, people wish for him to be. The more people that wish upon him to be strong, the stronger he gets. That's how he was able to fight on equal level with the Raiden Shogun.
@flyingcow5235
@flyingcow5235 27 күн бұрын
arlecchino fight really humbled the traveler huh? i hope next time in natlan, we'll think twice before fighting columbina or even possibly capitano
@vjbd2757
@vjbd2757 Ай бұрын
Traveler is weak because Genshin needs 5-star characters to sell.
@ii-xl2vb
@ii-xl2vb Ай бұрын
So it's true that the money seeking game will make bad, inconsistent story.
@jabermogwai5996
@jabermogwai5996 Ай бұрын
yup thats about it, when they want to sell nahida, they use her to help the traveler to fight god scara and then when they want to sell anemo scara they use him to help traveller to beat the god scara (again)
@wishvamufzalbulathsinghala7008
@wishvamufzalbulathsinghala7008 Ай бұрын
Funny that they are also considered as a 5 star character
@asdfasdf11835
@asdfasdf11835 Ай бұрын
yeah thats every gacha game you id10t5. unless you are kirito or OP generic trash isekai anime MC.
@raiden8063
@raiden8063 Ай бұрын
because the fourth fatui harbinger should be easy to defeat, right?
@Tiberius-vs9wc
@Tiberius-vs9wc 29 күн бұрын
Honestly, considering that Arlecchino descends from a khaenrian bloodline due to the crimson moon reference, it is very possible that her trait interfered with traveler’s resonance with the elements, due to reactions between dark and light. Otherwise, there is no other possible explanation.
@ricardotidus
@ricardotidus Ай бұрын
Awesome analysis as always. Missed your videos. Hope to see soon what you have to say about Remuria lore.
@blank7062
@blank7062 28 күн бұрын
Childe states that he always trains and gets stronger, he says so in the Laberynth Warriors Event. It could just be that he WAS weaker than Signora in the Golden House, but much later was significantly stronger than her when she was beaten by the Traveler. Childe also pushed himself to the limit when he faufht the whale so he must have gotten stronger at least right then.
@Otherface
@Otherface Ай бұрын
The more time paases, the more disappointed i'm with the traveler. Now, it seems that they are as weak in lore as in gameplay. What bad surprises we will have in Natlan?
@MrFigjet
@MrFigjet 28 күн бұрын
Considering the Traveler didn't do almost anything in the Fontaine storyline. In Natlan, he'll probably sleep through the whole story...
@Kira-mu2im
@Kira-mu2im Ай бұрын
"Ah yes, Anti-Alrecchino technique I havent used since Heian era" -Fraudther
@kotarouinugami1745
@kotarouinugami1745 17 күн бұрын
Aether uses puppy-dog eyes. It's super-effective.
@marcellodavidson5336
@marcellodavidson5336 27 күн бұрын
Idk if the Travelers recent "loss" to Arlechinno warrants a retrospect that belittles everything that they have done.
@rose4lyfe
@rose4lyfe Ай бұрын
the battle with childe... we never finish the battle... so technically speaking we don't get to defeat him either since he did not seem weakened at all... just a thought I had (edit: in the cutscene I meant. i was watching this part with my cousin who recently started the game. directly after he was weakened but only due to the effects of his foul legacy. but he quite quickly seemed fine and made himself a water bubble and escaped off soo... yh the only reason we could actually say we beat him is due to the effects. otherwise I think he could've gone on much longer which he did do in fontaine against the whale. i think it was said he kept it busy for months or smth) and about 10:04, the way I see it... the attack was too fast, that much is obvious. traveller was focussing on scara after all. against signora confuses me too though... like why was she beaten? unless the ranking of the harbingers isn't just power, or maybe childe is only 11th without his foul legacy but with it he's stronger than signora?
@gears6016
@gears6016 Ай бұрын
Trailblazer in the genshin universe: 🥱 Traveler in the Star Rail Universe:💀
@airacousland232
@airacousland232 Ай бұрын
Tbf, Trailblazer needs a lot of help too. We've got Himeko and robot for Cocolia, we were basically useless against Phantylia, Black Swan helped with Memory Zone meme, etc.
@jackinuzuki2890
@jackinuzuki2890 29 күн бұрын
​@@airacousland232tbh himeko only fired her orbital cannon once and tb fought stellaron cocolia on a 1v1 with the robot, tb is controlling the engine of creation which we took over from cocolia's control, which is not meant for combat, phantylia is connected to the ambrosial arbor which gives her, her body and power of the abundance, as an emanator of destruction, she can destroy a star to a solar system, she can play with the stars, surviving against a star attack by phantylia is a feat as well, the doomsday beast(planet destroyer) (first boss)was also defeated by trailblazer, launching it to welt's black hole at its defeat, memory zone meme is death itself wandering the dreams in penacony.
@JustGre3d
@JustGre3d 29 күн бұрын
@@jackinuzuki2890yeah idk people always point out that the trailblazer needs help like his enemies don’t scale way higher. Like bro traveler was about to lose to a damn slime early on in the game. “He didn’t have his powers 👆” right so he needs god powers to beat a slime 💀 then later on in Scaramouche quest as stated in the vid the traveler somehow about to lose to mecha scara as if he DIDNT BEAT HIM ALREADY.
@jackinuzuki2890
@jackinuzuki2890 29 күн бұрын
@@JustGre3d razor had to save traveler from hydro slimes at the start for goodness sake, guess the nahida super buff worn off for traveler vs god scara, the traveler need the almighty galactic baseball bat from the kaslana bloodline and from trailblazers fr
@sabiant.lawson2909
@sabiant.lawson2909 29 күн бұрын
​@@airacousland232 but yet in the belobog campaign, they get stabbed in the chest, and walked it off like nothing happened And I would say that the Trailblazer is strong, but they are stronger together with their friends kind like the guardian from destiny
@Necrochaosium
@Necrochaosium Ай бұрын
It's really easy to see the theme here, the traveller is only as strong as their friends, has never been doing anything solo, and thats the point. In all of these fights we have we've been fighting with our group of 4 friends that more often than not wont include the traveller. It's pretty boring to play as an all powerful entity anyway. We're the visitor to this world, not the linchpin from which all things revolve. As zhongli said we're the witness here.
@friggen_roylty4368
@friggen_roylty4368 Ай бұрын
Right. They're not as strong as people rant that they want them to be. The Traveler is the self reflection of the player, only as good as the support we have via networking. Otherwise, we're just witnessing the world around us.
@nyxsiren8403
@nyxsiren8403 Ай бұрын
Thank you for this video 😭😭 I'm tired of people saying traveler beat Ei, Scara, Dvalin etc. on their own, traveler losing vs Arlecchino is totally normal, it doesn't necessarily mean she's stronger than other opponents we fought before. I've even seen people say Arle is stronger than top 3 harbingers because traveler couldn't beat her like be fr 😔😔 she's strong but so is Ei, Scara god form, Azhdaha etc. Traveler would've lost most of those fights if they didn't have power of friendship
@chan1394
@chan1394 Ай бұрын
This is my first time i like ur video, very good conclusion for all story... now i have motivation to read when doing main quest, because im tired read the story after Liyue main quest. thank you for making this video
@Astroga159
@Astroga159 Ай бұрын
Well, Childe always mentions that he is getting stronger since the Golden House duel so it stands to reason that in Fontaine he has surpassed Signora in raw power or skill and he got experience in fighting abyss creatures. Also, Scara being the 6th harbinger is mostly due to how durable he is. So there is a reason to suspect that raw power alone does not define rank. Maybe factors like intelligence (Dotore), cunning (Signora), etc plays a role in rank. Edit: Also one big info missing, in the Alrechinno cutscene we see only the END of the fight, not the entire fight. In Scara boss fight we don't use any elements, not vs the whale, in Signora we get the transition and the end, we only see the results of in-game fights. Chlide is unique in the sense that we get mid-fight reversal, an actual part of the fight in cutscene. Similar when we go banzai on Raiden with electro sword. We get so few fight cutscenes when the "using the elements" is probably meant as in gameplay, you progress the fight in-game and see the result in cutscene (shame we can't switch elements mid fight though). Also, Lyney and crew used 0 vision powers too during the cutscene with only the magic trick
@yukimisouzou3036
@yukimisouzou3036 Ай бұрын
Had commented on the origin video, but I still think progressively, Traveler had some struggle against Childe (11th Harbinger) but ended up winning by some luck & they were able to defeat Signora (8th Harbinger) was prob bcs they had gained more training with the Watatsumi army (assuming it happened in a long span of time). However, they r still not strong enough to defeat Scara (6th Harbinger+power up robot) & had to farm knowledge to gain wisdom & buffs. It's even more evident when fighting Arlecchino (4th Harbinger) & she wasn't even going all out. Childe's prowess growth during the whale scene is prob due to his own intense training in between the Inazuma & Sumeru Archon quest, meaning that Childe is much more discipline in his combat training compared to Traveler prob. But imo, current Traveler can beat the 10th & 9th Harbingers, however they might struggle against the 7th Harbinger. Since Project Stuzha (I think it's the project held by both 10th & 9th Harbingers?) is coming up, I think Traveler would have to confront TWO harbingers at the same time (which they might b equal to 7th/6th in combat) Traveler' kit in all elements r felt mostly like the Support Character (Hydro being THE worst one) & I can only hope that when Pyro MC comes out, we will finally get the DPS MC we deserve!
@Waarghh100
@Waarghh100 28 күн бұрын
That's why every time one of the NPC high praise the Traveler I always pick the most Humble answers: "I have friends helps" or "Not really."
@B_R_U_H14
@B_R_U_H14 21 күн бұрын
We really do need a power up from traveler or else we'll be doomed against the big 3 Fatui harbingers. The traveler right now, at best, is probably still the same as version 3.2. They can fight toe to toe against the sixth harbinger without any assistance
@SirPentious389
@SirPentious389 Ай бұрын
I don't even get how the whole ,,traveler is actually god like" stuff came up
@MrFigjet
@MrFigjet 28 күн бұрын
It's literally written in his/her story.
@peph9750
@peph9750 23 күн бұрын
How'd you manage to forget the whole first cutscene?
@SirPentious389
@SirPentious389 23 күн бұрын
@@peph9750 This didn't really show something tbh
@backpackpepelon3867
@backpackpepelon3867 20 күн бұрын
He's a god alright, but at god of salt lvl of strength.
@SirPentious389
@SirPentious389 20 күн бұрын
@@backpackpepelon3867 Fr
@yukicchiiii
@yukicchiiii Ай бұрын
So it was the friends we made along the way
@203tron
@203tron 23 күн бұрын
It's also funny because in cutscene when changing fight phases in scara boss fight traveler has enough physical strenght that concrete floor that's over 1 meter thick breaks before they get smashed.
@francoguzman1236
@francoguzman1236 26 күн бұрын
I wanna believe is that the traveler very much has a lot to learn on how to fight even stronger foes by himself, In the mean time, The friends and allies he's made along the way helps him, For sure. But at some point he will have to fight for himself and it shows how much he has to improve if he want's to even stand a chance againts Tsaritsa herself.
@VeraldoAncodini
@VeraldoAncodini Ай бұрын
A few notes - the Sword of Narzissenkreuz doesn't actually have any power, it's a conduit for the Traveler's willpower. That is his power as a Descender. Also, Arlecchino used one of her ultimate moves to bring us in the plane of the Crimson Moon, and her eyes hold a power similar to that of Ghost Rider from Marvel. She probably is on par if not more powerful than the other harbingers if she were to use the full powers of her curse, but that will also likely end her after the fight. But yeah, Aether is quite underpowered, hope he will become an actual 5* soon.
@Otherface
@Otherface Ай бұрын
Uhhh... how powerfully exactly is Ghost Rider?
@breakouttimeburst777
@breakouttimeburst777 Ай бұрын
​@@Otherface base Ghost Rider is on par with Doctor Doom
@proto245
@proto245 Ай бұрын
@@Otherface Base Ghost Rider as fast as Thor.
@vampiranya9939
@vampiranya9939 Ай бұрын
Sword of Narzissenkreuz literally had power to separarte consciousness, it's the same instrument Ordo used to take other people consciousness and create Caterpiller for example. It was created by Remurian arts and it's power is not some moral boost, and the only reason why we defeated Master was because his power come from morph of lots of people he absorbed(and abyssal arts, lots of it), which sword was able to separate leaving only Rene in the end. And it's funny because 400 years ago Alain was able to defeat Master 1 v 1, without any plot sword, so 5 elements Traveler is actually weaker then just a freaking engineer!
@reinhartnata47
@reinhartnata47 Ай бұрын
​@@vampiranya9939 to be fair rene 500 years ago haven't absorbed much of the primordial water and is probably weaker than when the traveller face him
@dangte6625
@dangte6625 Ай бұрын
“Throughout Celestia and Tevyat, I alone am the fraudulent one. The merit of having a plot armor that's passed down for chapters is having an emergency plan. The demerit is that information about the technique is easily theorized. You were a member of the House of Hearth, weren't you? That's why you know so much about the Phantom Child. However, even among children from House of Hearth, only a scant few know about this. Take the friendship and the character development, then smash together those two different expressions of infinity to create and push out imaginary mass. Imaginary Technique: Dull Blade”. “If Arlecchino were to completely punish all the traitors… it might be a little tough.” said the 4th Descender. “But would you lose?” asks Paimon. “Nah, I’d Win” “With this treasure I summon, Cinder of Two Worlds’ Flame!” After The Knave opened up her domain, The Balemoon Rising, she said, “Are you The 4th Descender, because you are the Fraud or are you the Fraud because you’re the 4th Descender?”. As the strongest Father, Arlecchino, fought the 4th Descender, the king of fraud. She began to expand her domain. Traveler shrunk back in fear as Arlecchino said, "Stand proud Traveler, you are strong."
@ponos8632
@ponos8632 Ай бұрын
"but not strong enough to beat me"
@quantranhong1092
@quantranhong1092 Ай бұрын
datte kimi yowai mou
@BonfieTheRabbit
@BonfieTheRabbit 29 күн бұрын
Who needs powers when you have the blessing of Barbatos, a literal electro God wife protecting you with her puppet, Nahida guarding your dreams and the previous Hydro Archon traveling with you
@moonwhispers
@moonwhispers Ай бұрын
The Traveller isn't a joke, just isn't on the level of most of the gods, and is a fantastic conduit for a lot of the energies of Teyvat, and but a lot of those energies will overwhelm them. They're strong enough to survive the attack from Osial and Scaramouche Bot. The Traveller is a badass, just not like all these absurd beings running around.
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