Is goku strong enough for saitama?

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Natsu-Downbad

Natsu-Downbad

Жыл бұрын

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@toplayhayday6201
@toplayhayday6201 Жыл бұрын
Saitama claps goku goku ain't even multiverse level
@unreal_gokuty_edits
@unreal_gokuty_edits Жыл бұрын
Pin of shame
@Natsu-Downbad
@Natsu-Downbad Жыл бұрын
@@unreal_gokuty_edits not pin of shame I just laughed when I saw this
@unreal_gokuty_edits
@unreal_gokuty_edits Жыл бұрын
@@Natsu-Downbad lmao
@Snowsify
@Snowsify Жыл бұрын
Saitama barely galaxy level
@slayer8778
@slayer8778 Жыл бұрын
Goku slams goku ssg first time transformation made the universe shake saitama only destroyed stars
@Frieza1275
@Frieza1275 Жыл бұрын
Saitama: you know lets just end this fight and get some udo- Kid buu:👉🌏💥
@Qesterngid
@Qesterngid Жыл бұрын
Saitama can breathe in space, he isn't effected by space.
@Frieza1275
@Frieza1275 Жыл бұрын
@@Qesterngid his whole planet blew up and his body has turned into an air atom
@Qesterngid
@Qesterngid Жыл бұрын
??? How would his body turn into an atom?
@Frieza1275
@Frieza1275 Жыл бұрын
@@Qesterngid you tell me if there is an explosion near you what would happen
@SonGoku_K
@SonGoku_K Жыл бұрын
@@Qesterngid What this idiot is trying to say. Is that kid Buu would destroy him. Not only the planet
@purpleanthonyplaysOffical
@purpleanthonyplaysOffical Жыл бұрын
It just only takes "100 pushups 100 situps 100 squats and a 10 kilometer and 100 jumpingjacks"
@Legendary_White_Beard
@Legendary_White_Beard 10 ай бұрын
And some genetics
@lazerbreaker4758
@lazerbreaker4758 6 ай бұрын
he only did that to the brink of death all the time to break his limiter and its over
@brittanyrice7901
@brittanyrice7901 6 ай бұрын
Goku: wtf I did 1bli of that ?!?!?!?!😟
@SunDevilAJ
@SunDevilAJ 24 күн бұрын
@@brittanyrice7901but he didn’t break his limiter did he?
@fight1316
@fight1316 Жыл бұрын
Saitama sneezed Jupiter and make some stars disappear Saitama fans: He beats everyone 🥴
@bruhhh2629
@bruhhh2629 Жыл бұрын
Bro, he basically beat GOD
@aarongaming7787
@aarongaming7787 Жыл бұрын
@@fight1316 what he means is god god not gods
@lie-detector9682
@lie-detector9682 Жыл бұрын
The fact in manga is called "serious sneeze" not a normal sneeze and beerus when he sneezed it was normal it means that beerus just need a sneeze to finish of saitama
@God-of-storms1
@God-of-storms1 Жыл бұрын
Saitama can’t lose.people are claiming he’s planetary level or whatever, but he has infinite power, because he broke his limiter so you can’t give Saitama a power level cause his power is infinite
@God-of-storms1
@God-of-storms1 Жыл бұрын
@@fight1316 some guy on a Different short
@jenmuli3114
@jenmuli3114 Жыл бұрын
Apparently Saitama in future manga will be way more intense and stronger than Saitama terra 2 which I think is already around complex universal or just multiversal.
@TheHTownDog
@TheHTownDog Жыл бұрын
In what way at all is he universal he’s solar system at max tbh he’s only somewhat relevant feat is he broke half of Jupiter other than that he’s not near a universal threat
@zero___170.2
@zero___170.2 Жыл бұрын
He destroyed half of jupiter because he dont want to destroy the solar system Edit: if he destroyed the jopiter then whos going to swallow the asturoid?(sorry wroung spell)
@r3trovert809
@r3trovert809 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHTownDog his biggest feat is punching a hole in SPACE, meaning billions of galaxies destroyed in a "small" patch of space
@pbl_aiden5610
@pbl_aiden5610 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHTownDog he destroyed trillions of galaxys without even using max strenght
@SonGoku_K
@SonGoku_K Жыл бұрын
@@pbl_aiden5610 Bro where does it even say A SINGLE galaxy. Get your facts right
@ajay-pl8it
@ajay-pl8it Жыл бұрын
People dnt need logic they need magic ~vegeta
@kyero8724
@kyero8724 Жыл бұрын
"I'm never fighting a gag character again" ~ Vegeta
@xXBrolyXx67
@xXBrolyXx67 7 ай бұрын
UI Goku shook the void meanwhile saitama only destroyed jupiter and a few galaxies 💀🙏
@Gallant_Tuba_Knight
@Gallant_Tuba_Knight 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, while not even trying.. meanwhile Goku had to pull some bs ancient legend cheat for that transformation JUST to keep up with purple Garfield.
@Person-rjxsi
@Person-rjxsi 5 ай бұрын
No easiest answer I've ever answered in my answering journey.
@Bwolk-ow2nr
@Bwolk-ow2nr Жыл бұрын
Now can you sprinkle some ACCURATE saitama proofs to that?
@Legendary_White_Beard
@Legendary_White_Beard 10 ай бұрын
Ill do it for them. For 1 saitama grabbed hyperspace, which is a 4th dimensional space that can move faster than light. So to grab it you need to be multidimensional and be able to move faster then light at the same time. So saitama is already multiversal, which is above goku. I could put in more proof but im tired and wanna eat my tacos irl.
@rambofan6138
@rambofan6138 7 ай бұрын
@@Legendary_White_Beardhyperspace is such a huge sci fi term that the meaning of it can be used however it needs to be, if a space ship went into “hyperspace” mode and traveled really fast doesnt mean they are multidimensional level, the portal garou made could be interpreted as much as you want so saying saitama is multidimensional because he kicked a portal that we dont have a clear definition of doesnt mean that its clear proof saitama is over goku, all saitama has is his infinite potential which means he can be defeated if an opponent like goku goes all out from the start and uses all his energy into a kamehameha than saitama will die
@estefanycalderon9346
@estefanycalderon9346 10 күн бұрын
@@Legendary_White_Beardsaitama is 7x faster then speed of light while goku is way faster then that
@pronitalangthasa7002
@pronitalangthasa7002 Жыл бұрын
Db fans trying not to say Goku in base is universal:challenge:impossible
@RandomEditz580
@RandomEditz580 Жыл бұрын
Yes he is and if you want i can prove you XD
@godlygamer3893
@godlygamer3893 Жыл бұрын
But its true of course we would say it lol
@pronitalangthasa7002
@pronitalangthasa7002 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@anime_world6684
@anime_world6684 Жыл бұрын
No one is afraid to say in base because it is
@pronitalangthasa7002
@pronitalangthasa7002 Жыл бұрын
@@anime_world6684 ok i want your proof
@caox2562
@caox2562 9 ай бұрын
“I just wanna talk to him”
@sidewaysar1811
@sidewaysar1811 5 ай бұрын
bro saitama looks like that god slayer from Thor
@justalittlestinky
@justalittlestinky Жыл бұрын
goku: trained all of his life and is still doing so but it’s debate on who wins saitama: 3 years
@Editz-45678
@Editz-45678 8 ай бұрын
Saitama : trained for 3 yrs to get this strong Goku; in frieza saga Goku did 100x saitama workout in 6 days
@justalittlestinky
@justalittlestinky 8 ай бұрын
@@Editz-45678 satima just built different
@adisancodm
@adisancodm 8 ай бұрын
​@@justalittlestinkyGoku is way better
@justalittlestinky
@justalittlestinky 8 ай бұрын
@@adisancodm give it 5 more years and sataima will solo the verse 🤣
@adisancodm
@adisancodm 8 ай бұрын
@@justalittlestinky Still it will not be enough, Goku is way better
@champabisht31992
@champabisht31992 Жыл бұрын
Goku is considered stronger then saitama because it has a big fanbase. Reality is- Saitama easily destroys goku because of many reasons like his unknown power and breaking the power scale. Saitama's power is unknown and he ALWAYS holds back even when he was fighting Garou, he held back so he wouldn't break the Core of Genos. Saitama is also theoretically much faster than even the Zero Causality Fist, as it appeared to cause him no strain or fatigue when using it, implying even this isn't his maximum speed. Though Goku may be one of manga's most iconic powerhouses, One-Punch Man's Saitama is closing the distance with every chapter. Whereas goku- He exhibits the same strength effortlessly and yet still has more room for growth. At this point, he hasn't ever needed to use his full power, whereas Goku frequently needs to reach his limits. All in all, Saitama wins this competition.
@The_Red_Mist541
@The_Red_Mist541 Жыл бұрын
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS SAITAMA WINS
@Legendary_White_Beard
@Legendary_White_Beard 10 ай бұрын
@@The_Red_Mist541 IKR
@heheimtheone
@heheimtheone 10 ай бұрын
​@@The_Red_Mist541saitama doesnt win
@heheimtheone
@heheimtheone 10 ай бұрын
Saitama doesn't win
@Legendary_White_Beard
@Legendary_White_Beard 10 ай бұрын
@@heheimtheone No proof bozo
@Turks..
@Turks.. 11 ай бұрын
As an actual powerscaler it’s insulting when people downplay goku
@ShnIDK
@ShnIDK 10 ай бұрын
This dude has the most not touching grass job ever😂😂
@Turks..
@Turks.. 10 ай бұрын
@@ShnIDK I don’t have a job
@SunDevilAJ
@SunDevilAJ 24 күн бұрын
What does goku scale to and tell me his feats that prove that
@Turks..
@Turks.. 13 күн бұрын
@@SunDevilAJ if i high ball him then outerversal. Also i cba to write a paragraph so in short i use official divine scaling as feats
@SunDevilAJ
@SunDevilAJ 13 күн бұрын
@@Turks.. I used to watch official divine for info too but he always highballs like crazy. Like he put Naruto as dwarf star level when his biggest feat is destroying a meteor
@redmarioavenger
@redmarioavenger Жыл бұрын
I feel like their fight would rip a hole in the multiverse
@SharkIamnot
@SharkIamnot Жыл бұрын
Fax
@jayrudrajha9769
@jayrudrajha9769 Жыл бұрын
Cap saitama is for real galaxy level and Goku is mid multiverse level so no
@Ryuzaki.Lawlite
@Ryuzaki.Lawlite Жыл бұрын
​@@jayrudrajha9769 You Ain't know nothing. Ever heard of Boros? Boros was a universally most strongest villain yet Saitama Beat his AO With only one punch. What would you call that a Meyer coincidence or unlimited power and energy of Saitama?
@The_Red_Mist541
@The_Red_Mist541 Жыл бұрын
@@Ryuzaki.Lawliteoh and one thing to remember: serious punches (and most serious attacks) aren’t actually serious, they’re just a ever so slightly higher amount of power and force
@derpku103
@derpku103 Жыл бұрын
Saitama said no because he can’t beat goku 😂
@theleomater
@theleomater 5 ай бұрын
Yeah... So saitama can't beat goku while shaked the entire universe with just 5% of his power? Nah what a kid
@Skullbro-bd4ue
@Skullbro-bd4ue 5 ай бұрын
@@theleomater saitama never did that + Goku shook the entire infiniet world of void who is transcendant to infinity space and time and it is infinite in size itself in a 5D scale.
@thelytz9806
@thelytz9806 Жыл бұрын
Saitama could literally go through every single comic universe killing everyone and come back without a scratch, they made this guy way too op
@Hittheone
@Hittheone Жыл бұрын
All I got to say is cap 🧢 he can’t defeat super man immortal hulk or Thor.
@kyero8724
@kyero8724 Жыл бұрын
@@Hittheone He could pick up Thor's hammer.
@browniez816
@browniez816 Жыл бұрын
@@kyero8724 That statement is purely headcanon.
@kyero8724
@kyero8724 Жыл бұрын
@@browniez816 no shit
@browniez816
@browniez816 Жыл бұрын
@@kyero8724 Then why did you say it 💀
@lekeishaervin1771
@lekeishaervin1771 7 ай бұрын
God dang I swear the goku meat riders are insane they just won’t let go
@anshumondolakasharia
@anshumondolakasharia 5 ай бұрын
People need to realize that all the events up to chapter 194 in the manga of opm happened in a course of only 2 months. So saitama went from planatery to multi galaxy level in just two months. Which is an insane growth. At this rate he might surpass goku soon. But it will literally take like 50 years in the real world for the Saitama vs God fight to happen lol. Even season 3 is not animated now
@Cr79435
@Cr79435 Жыл бұрын
SAITAMA IS THE GOAT. NO ONE IS STRONGER THEN HIM. HATERS WILL DISSAGREE
@whitewolf937
@whitewolf937 10 ай бұрын
Saitama mehhhh Saitama is just a nobody......... actually he's a a god❤
@shadow.editzz___
@shadow.editzz___ 9 ай бұрын
Ang new gen watcher🤡🤡
@Isaacj_money
@Isaacj_money 9 ай бұрын
Scarlet king beyonder cosmic superman the darkest knight mosquito
@user-qp6vu8ob4b
@user-qp6vu8ob4b 9 ай бұрын
Saitama literally killed a god and goku can’t kill Zeno L goku
@youraveragemorononyoutube4435
@youraveragemorononyoutube4435 9 ай бұрын
@@user-qp6vu8ob4bthe fact you used the fanmade fodder makes it ironic
@roberthastings5969
@roberthastings5969 Жыл бұрын
Saitama is only universe level at max. Goku is low-mid Multiversal at least. Huge difference in power. So much so it's not even comparable. Opm gets one power up and I swear his fans think he can solo every verse 💀.
@szpoky
@szpoky Жыл бұрын
So does goku fans tho Just accept that they wouldnt even fight 💀
@roberthastings5969
@roberthastings5969 Жыл бұрын
@@szpoky nah, I don't even like Dragon Ball or OPM, I can just understand facts when I see them 💀
@slayer8778
@slayer8778 Жыл бұрын
Saitama is not even universe level Goku slams goku ssg first time transformation made the universe shake saitama only destroyed stars
@roberthastings5969
@roberthastings5969 Жыл бұрын
@@slayer8778 exactly my point. These opm fans apparently haven't watched even a single episode of the Saiyan saga.
@catfish0345
@catfish0345 Жыл бұрын
Sataima is only like solar system to galaxy level , he only destroyed a bunch of stars and sneezed away a gas planet , which doesn’t compare to gokus multiverse feats
@AS2010G
@AS2010G 11 ай бұрын
Battle IQ is an entirely different story though. Saitama clearly has enough battle IQ to win as often as he does throughout One Punch Man, even in the battles that take more than one punch. However, only having to throw one punch most of the time doesn’t exactly keep one's battle senses and intelligence sharp. Goku, on the other hand, is always in situations where his battle IQ is being heightened. Nearly every fight we see Goku in, he has to push beyond his limits to overcome his opponent. Always having to be the overcomer ensures one's battle prowess is maintained. Unfortunately for the One Punch Man, Saitama’s quick work of Dragon Level Threats leaves something to be desired in terms of his battle skill and knowledge. As a result, saitama takes home the gold in the win against goku from bragon balls for best battle IQ.
@monkey6171
@monkey6171 8 ай бұрын
The only reason that people think Saitama loses is because there hasn’t been anyone to date who has backed him to a corner
@sabinaforhad2889
@sabinaforhad2889 Жыл бұрын
Saitama Manga destroyed Trillions of Aestroids with a sneeze
@fidel8640
@fidel8640 Жыл бұрын
Fax
@ChozenReal
@ChozenReal Жыл бұрын
bro when
@RandomEditz580
@RandomEditz580 Жыл бұрын
Bro when ? Pls tell me the manga
@mistaoogwgayway
@mistaoogwgayway Жыл бұрын
Bro just destroyed Jupiter's moon and Goku in an 4d dimension where no space or gravity exists, a endless timeline/dimension Goku screamed so much that all the universe's started to tremble, destroying planets was such a basic level even king Vegeta did it so he was planetary level manga Goku is just nothing but multiversal, he can easily destroy a universe, people underestimate due to him being overrated by DBZ fans saying he could destroy anyone but trust me Saitama isn't even close to Goku's level not even in the future as Saiyans have no limits
@jonathansdreamland1207
@jonathansdreamland1207 Жыл бұрын
Nah a full blown planet
@davidgisa7539
@davidgisa7539 Жыл бұрын
What! goku base at least is universe level show me proof that Saitama is stronger than goku
@Natsu-Downbad
@Natsu-Downbad Жыл бұрын
His name is “one punch man”
@CashIsKewl
@CashIsKewl Жыл бұрын
@@Natsu-Downbad so, he doesn’t one punch the guy that’s blue and pointy I think is name is garou
@Natsu-Downbad
@Natsu-Downbad Жыл бұрын
@@CashIsKewl hol you ain’t even know who cosmic G is
@CashIsKewl
@CashIsKewl Жыл бұрын
@@Natsu-Downbad do you not know who black frieza that is totally not racist is
@Natsu-Downbad
@Natsu-Downbad Жыл бұрын
@@CashIsKewlyes he loses to DIO OVERHEAVEN
@bonyanbahrami371
@bonyanbahrami371 9 ай бұрын
That was the coolest video I have ever seen
@unknxwneditz
@unknxwneditz 4 ай бұрын
Saitama stronger, this guy destroyed Jupiter by sneezing💀💀💀💀💀
@1sO2.
@1sO2. Жыл бұрын
Goku base form claps Saitama
@The_Red_Mist541
@The_Red_Mist541 Жыл бұрын
omg it’s a idiot
@R.C.S.F.E
@R.C.S.F.E 6 ай бұрын
LOLLLL
@CyroFart
@CyroFart 6 ай бұрын
Cap
@1sO2.
@1sO2. 6 ай бұрын
@@CyroFart lol
@R.C.S.F.E
@R.C.S.F.E 6 ай бұрын
@@1sO2. Big cap
@khanadnan51839
@khanadnan51839 Жыл бұрын
SAITAMA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>GOKU
@Rona922
@Rona922 Жыл бұрын
📷 🫵🏼🤓🤡🤓 your whole circus
@Monke_vr117
@Monke_vr117 10 ай бұрын
Hahaha loser lol Goku claps saitama in the comics bro the comics are what's supposed to happen but I the anime it's not real
@justashadow.69
@justashadow.69 10 ай бұрын
​@@Rona922ur the average dbz fan
@Rona922
@Rona922 10 ай бұрын
@@justashadow.69 bro got had that 3rd grade roast ☠️
@justashadow.69
@justashadow.69 10 ай бұрын
@@Rona922 it wasnt a roast
@marcozarnicarnevale6933
@marcozarnicarnevale6933 7 ай бұрын
all da Boyz bout to be doing saitama's work out now
@Achievement_Awarder
@Achievement_Awarder 5 ай бұрын
Manga Saitama: Are you sure about that?
@haroldsorenhoul4389
@haroldsorenhoul4389 Жыл бұрын
For those wondering, the gods in dragon ball aren't as powerful as God himself. God created the gods using a small fraction of his power, to rule across other dimensions. So if Saitama scales to the power of God, that means he is already far more powerful than beerus, king buu, and Shenron. His highest power point was not even his maximum power, since he has no virtual limit. He literally broke cosmic Garou with a few punches, and he was blessed with Gods power. Try to prove me wrong dbz dicks
@Undisclosed_person
@Undisclosed_person 7 ай бұрын
Finally someone speaking facts 😊🥹🗣️
@BlockoPepperjackCheese
@BlockoPepperjackCheese 7 ай бұрын
Bro where did you get this information? How did OPM God make the gods in DBZ? Not only that, Saitama is just galaxy level while Goku is atleast Multiversal💀 Edit: I just looked it up and you were talking about Terra 2 Saitama??? Ain’t no way to took information from a fan made manga💀
@bakiwaiter6i
@bakiwaiter6i 7 ай бұрын
straight faxs@@BlockoPepperjackCheese
@user-pg2jz6iw1y
@user-pg2jz6iw1y 7 ай бұрын
Straight cap. Saitama is literally galaxy level 🤡 goku is around multiversal
@BrileyPlaysgames
@BrileyPlaysgames 7 ай бұрын
@@BlockoPepperjackCheese Don't matter, saitama will pass the t2 level and will become too strong that mui isn't close to his level
@qhycz
@qhycz Жыл бұрын
Pin this so people know Goku and Saitama are both incredibly powerful characters, but Goku has a few advantages that give him the edge in a fight. Firstly, Goku has much more experience fighting powerful opponents. He has been fighting since he was a child, and has faced a wide variety of enemies with different abilities and strengths. This has allowed him to develop a wide range of techniques and strategies that he can use in a fight. Saitama, on the other hand, became powerful after a single workout, so he doesn't have the same level of experience as Goku. Secondly, Goku has a much wider range of abilities than Saitama. He can transform into different forms, each with their own unique strengths and abilities. For example, his Super Saiyan form gives him a massive increase in power, while his Ultra Instinct form allows him to move and react at incredible speeds. He has also developed a wide range of techniques, such as the Kamehameha wave and the Spirit Bomb, that allow him to attack opponents from a distance. Saitama, on the other hand, relies mainly on his physical strength, and doesn't have the same level of versatility as Goku. Thirdly, Goku is much more durable than Saitama. While Saitama has shown incredible physical strength, he has also been injured by attacks in the past. Goku, on the other hand, has been able to withstand attacks from opponents who are much stronger than Saitama. For example, he was able to survive a fight with Frieza, who was able to destroy entire planets with ease. Finally, Goku has a much stronger willpower than Saitama. Goku has shown time and time again that he is willing to push himself to the brink of death in order to protect his friends and family. He has also been able to overcome incredible odds, such as when he defeated Majin Buu by using the power of the Spirit Bomb. Saitama, on the other hand, has never faced a true challenge, and it's unclear how he would react if he were pushed to his limits. In conclusion, while Saitama is an incredibly powerful character, Goku has a number of advantages that give him the edge in a fight. He has more experience, a wider range of abilities, is more durable, and has a stronger willpower. Of course, a fight between these two characters would be incredibly entertaining to watch, but in the end, Goku would come out on top.
@nawk438
@nawk438 Жыл бұрын
I’m sure you know but goku got folded by black frieza and saitama is even if not several times stronger than black frieza also the durability goes to saitama have you seen saitama feats much greater than goku’s plus saitama can fight in deep space which is somthing goku can’t do there’s no debate saitama neg dif goku for now there could be a debate if goku accually was on his lvl but not right now.
@qhycz
@qhycz Жыл бұрын
@@nawk438saitamas work out is 100 push ups Sit ups and 100 of many other things. The fact that Goku did saitamas work out just with 1m per day with a 100% more gravity than earths
@nawk438
@nawk438 Жыл бұрын
Well realistically saitama would lose
@qhycz
@qhycz Жыл бұрын
@@nawk438 yeah
@davidpineiro9180
@davidpineiro9180 11 ай бұрын
​@@nawk438saitama got no feats to prove he can beat black frieza
@Hittheone
@Hittheone Жыл бұрын
I just love how in the goku vs beerus fight galaxy’s we’re getting erased every second but earth was untouched.
@Legendary_White_Beard
@Legendary_White_Beard 10 ай бұрын
But really though
@juanrsantana5479
@juanrsantana5479 5 ай бұрын
He can still kill him if he’s at ultra instinct he can make a time line shiver ing
@_CobraTate.
@_CobraTate. Жыл бұрын
*Dio has left the chat*
@Kecplier
@Kecplier Жыл бұрын
Wdym
@bodi5421
@bodi5421 Жыл бұрын
i always wondered if Dio was 4th dimensional. I mean he stops time, thats a 4th dimensional feat.
@The_Red_Mist541
@The_Red_Mist541 Жыл бұрын
depends which dio, any version except OH loses but if it’s OH (for those who don’t know: which is what would’ve happened if he achieved the heaven plan) he basically became a god and can manipulate reality with his hands which is insanely powerful
@OPSreeraj
@OPSreeraj 17 күн бұрын
Saitama Fans At There Prime 😊 Goku Fans At There Prime 💀🗿😎
@rev69anime
@rev69anime 8 ай бұрын
Goku defeated cell who has no limiter with just super saiyan, stay mad saitama 🤓
@theonehighwireskin
@theonehighwireskin 5 ай бұрын
fr
@theleomater
@theleomater 5 ай бұрын
Nah, these kids Saitama can fight even in deep space He destroyed entire jupter with a sneeze He has infinite speed and infinite power (in the serie saitama is litterally trying to FIND, not BREAK his limit), he destroyed million of galaxies and stars with a punch and he copied all garou moves🤓
@theleomater
@theleomater 5 ай бұрын
+ like 10 reasons i'm too lazy to write
@theleomater
@theleomater 5 ай бұрын
So just search on youtube
@rev69anime
@rev69anime 5 ай бұрын
@@theleomater blud... Goku base is universal feat...
@darrickrowell3623
@darrickrowell3623 Жыл бұрын
Cap debate me if u like.
@miguelramirez-em1ps
@miguelramirez-em1ps Жыл бұрын
Fax
@navon8764
@navon8764 Жыл бұрын
Saitama can breath in space he has infinite strength stamina and speed he can grab hyperspace he made billions of stars die from his punch do i have anything else to say?
@roberthastings5969
@roberthastings5969 Жыл бұрын
You're a million percent right. I swear it's like no opm fans have ever watched DBZ. Kid Buu solos the entire opm verse.
@oofamamazing697
@oofamamazing697 Жыл бұрын
@@navon8764 goku almost destroyed 3 universes he has inf potential and BRO SAITAMA DOESNT HAVE INF STRENGTH HE BROKE HIS LIMITER
@navon8764
@navon8764 Жыл бұрын
@@oofamamazing697 but can he beat the whole jojo verse?
@LordFivestar999
@LordFivestar999 Жыл бұрын
How can Saitama win if he can't touch goku
@tvonboa
@tvonboa Жыл бұрын
My man can't dodge forever 👩‍🦼
@LordFivestar999
@LordFivestar999 Жыл бұрын
@@tvonboa exactly
@The_Red_Mist541
@The_Red_Mist541 Жыл бұрын
@@LordFivestar999I’m pretty sure he’s talking about goku
@candicemontano7090
@candicemontano7090 Жыл бұрын
Well it would be a draw facts because saitama gets stronger whil fighting and goku gets stronger a lot stronger once he is on the verge of death so they will keep getting stronger also this fact about sayian are true it’s in the manga
@onthespectrum5801
@onthespectrum5801 10 ай бұрын
gokus punches almost destroyed the universe and when he got mui he had respect from all gods and even surprised the grandpriest
@aami1084
@aami1084 Жыл бұрын
The people who are saying Saitama defeated jupiter with a sneeze piccolo destroyed moon in his base form.
@darklo1195
@darklo1195 Жыл бұрын
That is literally a worse feat by 500000 times since jupiter is that big and saitama is always on his base so wtf were you trying to say
@Reno
@Reno Жыл бұрын
​@@darklo1195 Plus Saitama's sneeze cut through moon Io like nothing before it destroys Jupiter. Also Saitama sneezed, Piccolo made a ki attack. In fact Saitama's sneeze was close to solar system level, since Jupiter's size=1300+ planet earth sizes, and with a mass that's 2.5 times greater than all the combined mass from all the other planets in our solar system. DBS Beerus sneezed a moon(not even actual sneeze- air of sneeze, but in fact involuntary ki ball attacks as it shown) Meanwhile Saitama sneezed Jupiter(actual sneeze-air of sneeze).
@promil_
@promil_ Жыл бұрын
@@darklo1195 it was in dragon ball z XD
@promil_
@promil_ Жыл бұрын
@@Reno it was in dragon ball z
@Reno
@Reno Жыл бұрын
@@promil_ What about Dragon Ball Z?
@xsxoliver1720
@xsxoliver1720 Жыл бұрын
Goku is stronger for now but saitama is catching up
@spongeman3806
@spongeman3806 Жыл бұрын
No, he literally showed similar feats in anime. The ship hum and boros fought on was, considering the Top arena was 375m in diameter, around 5x that, being around 1.5 miles long. The alien metal The ship was made out of even entreated Metal Cyborg (forgot his name) and was most likely close to if not the same durability as kaichi-kachintite, which is what the Top arena was made out of. And that fucking metal was melting by the mile when Boros was flying through beating on Saitama 💀
@jonathansdreamland1207
@jonathansdreamland1207 Жыл бұрын
@@spongeman3806 he catches up years ago
@Lucid_dreams1519
@Lucid_dreams1519 Жыл бұрын
Saitamas power grows very fucking fast so saitama is probably stronger
@z3n0fx
@z3n0fx Жыл бұрын
@@spongeman3806that doesn’t mean much we don’t know if it’s that type of metal or not
@bodi5421
@bodi5421 Жыл бұрын
Both sides are correct. Goku wins almost on every aspect except for Potential growth speed, Durability, Stamina and iQ. Goku has shown very OP feats like shaking the 4th dimension of a universe which is not infinite strenght but about 10^72 joules. That does not make any sense because Goku almost died from an attack of about only 10^15 joules, thus proving his durability is far lower. His strength, tho, is far beyond Saitama. Saitama is already invulnerable so theres not even competition here : he can survive any 1d - 5d attack but we have no idea about higher than 5d as his defense is currently approx infinite 5d. (Its hard to understand it, even I don't really understand so lets just say he has infinite durability). He cant get damaged physically, mentally or even curses or jojo stans, whatever. Defies laws of physics whenever he wants. Goku's power can go average x500 to x800 every form, estimate of about 200 octillion on UI. He needs to unlock a new form to go higher than his current ''limit''. Saitama's power grows exponentially. That means, when his power starts growing, it may go x2 in the few seconds and then after like an hour of fighting, it will do x2 every nanosecond, unreachable even if Goku's power was xGoogol every single form. Even that, he wouldnt hurt Saitama as hes invulnerable. Saitama cannot breathe in space but has infinie Stamina. He breathes once and no need breathing ever again. Never tired. Goku can get tired but sometimes hes lucky and wins such as against Jiren. Loved that fight btw, W animation. We know about iQ. The rest goes by FAR to Goku, such as speed (hes at least trillions times faster than Saitama), bIQ and experience (he's older and had more fair fights, learning every fight), you name it. - If Saitama and Goku were to fight each other, Saitama would KO Goku, forcing him to go to his TUI form. From now, Saitama is so much slower than TUI and would not be able to land a single hit until Goku gets tired and Saitama lands the final hit and wins. If Goku And Saitama were to compete in a speedrun, race, eating something the fastest, the most push ups in 1 second, anything really, then Goku wins without really any difficulty. Saitama simply can't lost an actual fight. That's the point of his character. That's why Goku's character developpement is better : we see him lose and get better and learn new things. Love both the series. Watch em both.
@jessie-james5264
@jessie-james5264 6 ай бұрын
when saitama fights someone stronger than him he gains more power and that goes on forever
@user-hs8if5cg1y
@user-hs8if5cg1y 7 ай бұрын
saitama broke his limiter meaning that he can get infinitly stronger and faster, because goku is a warm up fighter saitama will stay even the whole fight until goku stops growing in power while saitama just keeps getting better at an infinite rate but to be fr they would just end up being besties and making vejita jealous
@Somedudeonaiphonechilling8971
@Somedudeonaiphonechilling8971 Жыл бұрын
Fax goku cant beat saitama
@scottyyyy_cuslife
@scottyyyy_cuslife Жыл бұрын
Fax
@venusrhodes7475
@venusrhodes7475 Жыл бұрын
fax
@promil_
@promil_ Жыл бұрын
cap saitama in manga now joined low-multiversal but goku did joined low-multiversal in fight with beerus
@bodi5421
@bodi5421 Жыл бұрын
@@promil_ Goku is stronger but saitama is invulnerable. Saitama can destroy Goku but Goku can't. However, Saitama cannot destroy an entire universe for the moment but Goku had shown progress in destroying the 4th dimension of an entire 3d universe which is a better feat than even destroying the 3d universe without touching the 4d part (spacetime) like Zeno does.
@legendarytronic7774
@legendarytronic7774 Жыл бұрын
Cap
@Reno
@Reno Жыл бұрын
Saitama negs Goku and in fact all of fiction with zero sneezes or zero farts. If you disagree then you clearly don't know squat about Saitama and the easiest way to prove Saitama>Goku, is use the silly argument DB fans had long time ago "Goku can just instant transmission Saitama to outer space and let him soffocate". Turns out(something we already knew from Boros fight but downplayers refused to listen), that Saitama has no issues being in outer space(proven by Cosmic Garou fight). So in fact between the two, Goku is the one that can't breathe and is completely powerless in outer space(as stated by Vegeta in Moro arc). Cosmic Garou solos Goku & Vegeta. Cosmic Garou can solo even CC Goku and possibly Xeno Goku. In fact by DB canon(Granola arc) we know that tons of OPM characters can solo Goku & Vegeta as long as they either get Dragon Ball wish just like Gas. And Boros or some other villain if they get golden/black-some color variation forms can even neg both Goku and Vegeta, just like black form Frieza.
@Ultrazz
@Ultrazz Жыл бұрын
🤡🤡🤡🤡
@Ultrazz
@Ultrazz Жыл бұрын
Nor cosmic garou or saitama have shown a single universal feat they ain't even beating base dbs goku let alone cc goku
@Reno
@Reno Жыл бұрын
@@Ultrazz Your headcaon vs canon. Cosmic Garou solos Goku+Vegeta in their final forms and has already proven to have superior learning and copying than CC Goku. Goku and Vegeta can't even survive in outer space, Vegeta himself also stating they are completely powerless in outer space in Moro arc. So even if Cosmic Garou lacked in power department(which he doesn't and he would also make up for it with his technique easily), all Cosmic Garou has to do is move them to outer space with hyperspace gates or destroy the planet like Frieza did in the movie and SSGSS Vegeta couldn't survive.
@The_Gabe
@The_Gabe Жыл бұрын
Ghost rider
@Ultrazz
@Ultrazz Жыл бұрын
@@Reno goku will literally just instant transmission away with vegeta Plus name a single universal feat garou has every shown Heck name a galaxy level feat which garou has shown i will be impressed if you do
@rogue1362
@rogue1362 9 ай бұрын
Ah yes multi-galaxy level Saitama vs multiversal goku….
@koro_thenoob
@koro_thenoob 11 ай бұрын
after the short ended saitama got clapped by goku
@ALEXTHEOMEGA
@ALEXTHEOMEGA 11 ай бұрын
Goku fan
@octxne_
@octxne_ Жыл бұрын
saitama got thrown through the sun and came through the other side without a scratch. That usually kills dragonball characters, even getting anywhere near it. Saitama destroyed quadrillions of stars and galaxies with a single punch. He fought cosmic garou in deep space, which Sayins cant do. He has limitless power, meaning he gets stronger and stronger during fights, which is different from limitless potential. IS THERE MORE TO BE SAID?!
@fake_est
@fake_est Жыл бұрын
Broly
@sae.barouha
@sae.barouha Жыл бұрын
Fax's
@legendarytronic7774
@legendarytronic7774 Жыл бұрын
When was it ever stated he destroyed quadrillions of galaxies?? He destroyed a bunch of stars stop high balling him
@Aryan_Aran
@Aryan_Aran Жыл бұрын
He gets stronger and stronger during the fight which is different from limitless potential ? Seriously bro 😑 that's the same thing bro you illogical af 🤣
@SonGoku_K
@SonGoku_K Жыл бұрын
So Goku can destroy the macrocosm. Which almost everything in it Is infinite. And destroying the grandkais world would be octillions above a normal universal level feat, since most of the universe is 99.999% space. Destroying a universal size construct with a ton of mass would automatically make it a high multiversal feat. Not only that. Most of the realms transcend space and time. Hence no ageing and being infinite. Not only that, Most people forget that each realm transcends the other one. With the lowest being 4-5D. Let's just say 4D. Which is Hell. Otherworld/heaven is 5D. The kaioshin's realm is 6D, and The grandkais world being 7D. this would put Goku's base above all of that. Being 8D = low complex multiversal. Base Goku is already low complex multiversal. But then over super He gets thousands, arguably millions of times stronger than the start of super. In BASE. So let's just low ball it and put him at High complex multiversal. Nigga
@jonathansdreamland1207
@jonathansdreamland1207 Жыл бұрын
Wow someone who doesn’t look at goku’s planetary feats and call them multiversal
@_abyssxl
@_abyssxl Жыл бұрын
How about this; Blast said Saitama and cosmic Garou were only going to destroy earth only so blasts energy was responsible for the stars that got destroyed. Saitama is planetary.
@Bzbbbsnmaj
@Bzbbbsnmaj 9 ай бұрын
Idk how saitama sneezed there no air in space
@Yujinofriends
@Yujinofriends 7 ай бұрын
God made his favorite kid as saitama
@iceoffire20
@iceoffire20 Жыл бұрын
Cap
@itzicyedits
@itzicyedits Ай бұрын
all goku needs to do is press a button and then rip saitama
@Idobemadoging
@Idobemadoging 10 ай бұрын
eveybody ganster until Jump force goku pull up
@InfluencedByVix
@InfluencedByVix Жыл бұрын
Goku slams in SSB 💀
@koltinduzeski2072
@koltinduzeski2072 Жыл бұрын
Here is something y’all should know before you go saying Goku is stronger, saitama can swim in lava, destroy millions of universes with a single punch, defeated god, took an attack that is larger than the earth, survived a gravitational pull as strong as a black hole, has unknown power. Saitama defeats Goku low/mid diff.
@shaggyhuh8596
@shaggyhuh8596 Жыл бұрын
He never defeated god? He defeated a conduit for his power that didn’t even fully take gods power. I read the manga but I have no idea what black hole pull you are talking about, making stuff up to support an argument is pretty lame. I’m on the saitama side but don’t lie.
@okayXD-AWPTplus
@okayXD-AWPTplus Жыл бұрын
proves Saitama tards has no brain bro Lava is so dense you can't swin in it
@shaggyhuh8596
@shaggyhuh8596 Жыл бұрын
@@okayXD-AWPTplus but he did swim in it? Real world logic doesn’t apply to fiction?
@okayXD-AWPTplus
@okayXD-AWPTplus Жыл бұрын
@@shaggyhuh8596 but lava works like solid when u step on it
@shaggyhuh8596
@shaggyhuh8596 Жыл бұрын
@@okayXD-AWPTplus it’s not real life…
@slymera
@slymera 7 ай бұрын
I feel like saitama needs more training since he has unlimited potential since he broke his limiter
@unknowncharacter889
@unknowncharacter889 4 ай бұрын
We been destroying planets since the Buu Saga, Saitama is done for with just God, maybe Blue. MUI is overkill 🥱🥱
@slayer8778
@slayer8778 Жыл бұрын
Goku slams goku ssg first time transformation made the universe shake saitama only destroyed stars
@Dead_Battery
@Dead_Battery Жыл бұрын
Saitama barely tried
@slayer8778
@slayer8778 Жыл бұрын
@@Dead_Battery no he didnt he tryed his fillest you see this because saitama was in a rage from genos
@notretro4785
@notretro4785 Жыл бұрын
ssg goku didn’t make the universe shake himself, it was also beerus, and as a god of destruction it’s obviously gonna make the universe shake
@slayer8778
@slayer8778 Жыл бұрын
@@notretro4785 bro it legit shows us that when beerus and goku attacked it made the universe shake alsi beerus was trying to match gokus level so again it was not like beerus trying his hardest and even so the still shaked thats way over saitamas level
@Reno
@Reno Жыл бұрын
@@slayer8778 So much headcanon and senseless posts from you vs canon. Canon from both OPM and Dragon Ball: Saitama negs Goku and in fact all of fiction with zero sneezes or zero farts. If you disagree then you clearly don't know squat about Saitama and the easiest way to prove Saitama>Goku, is use the silly argument DB fans had long time ago "Goku can just instant transmission Saitama to outer space and let him soffocate". Turns out(something we already knew from Boros fight but downplayers refused to listen), that Saitama has no issues being in outer space(proven by Cosmic Garou fight). So in fact between the two, Goku is the one that can't breathe and is completely powerless in outer space(as stated by Vegeta in Moro arc). Cosmic Garou solos Goku & Vegeta. Cosmic Garou can solo even CC Goku and possibly Xeno Goku. In fact by DB canon(Granola arc) we know that tons of OPM characters can solo Goku & Vegeta as long as they either get Dragon Ball wish just like Gas. And Boros or some other villain if they get golden/black-some color variation forms can even neg both Goku and Vegeta, just like black form Frieza.
@CubingGoober
@CubingGoober Жыл бұрын
goku is better because i don't know
@bielzinho0356
@bielzinho0356 9 ай бұрын
well since new chapters still dropping we can get new feats for saitama like the going back in time thing,soo he had no feats and he beat garou, HE ONLY DID BEAT HIM because his power is always going up just like goku going ssj1 to ssj2 and ssj3 etc on each punch,so its like each punch almost doubles the power and IF cosmic garou was trying to kill goku he would eventually doing it since bro does not have infinite transformations, and yes saitama did just lift 2 black holes in the cover of the new chapters but its up to you to know if its canon or not
@G1itchedS0ul
@G1itchedS0ul 10 ай бұрын
but thats when manga saitama months into the future
@kakarotx69
@kakarotx69 9 ай бұрын
Goku is gonna make him believe 😂
@albertiskandr79
@albertiskandr79 7 ай бұрын
Blud forgot about SSJ Infinite
@MUI4440
@MUI4440 10 ай бұрын
High multiversal vs galaxy level 👀💀
@GoodiePlaysWell7650
@GoodiePlaysWell7650 Жыл бұрын
People who agrees/dont agree, then watch Etoilec's Animation. The Goku Vs Saitama vid 😂
@bakiwaiter6i
@bakiwaiter6i 7 ай бұрын
thats not cannon though
@bakiwaiter6i
@bakiwaiter6i 7 ай бұрын
or acurate
@mama68macu39
@mama68macu39 6 ай бұрын
Ppl who watched divine and saw yamcha solo opm
@Nexus-dh3rb
@Nexus-dh3rb 11 ай бұрын
It is unbelievable that he only used one hand to defeat cosmic garou
@dreamspaceedits
@dreamspaceedits Жыл бұрын
Goku almost destroyed universe 7 when fighting beerus
@marjelyflowers762
@marjelyflowers762 10 ай бұрын
Goku could destroy an entire galaxy if he wanted to but guess what goku has a pure heart
@v1trual
@v1trual 15 күн бұрын
Goku: Has numerous transformations, each significantly increasing his power (e.g., Super Saiyan, Ultra Instinct). Trained by various masters and gods, with intense training regimes. Can destroy planets and even more with higher forms. (Galaxies) with ease. Has a wide range of techniques, including energy blasts, instant transmission, and more. • has infinite speed ( beeing able to escape hell wich is said to be infinite in distance) • saitama : 100 pushups 100 situps and a 10 colomiter run for 2 years. Even know we see him being able to do impressive feats like blowing away jupiters atmosphere his strength is unmatched to gokus who is able to destroy galaxies with ease. in the end it doesn't really matter who is stronger! Both seres are great
@osiponglemla8632
@osiponglemla8632 Жыл бұрын
Goku is nothing for saitama
@broy6440
@broy6440 10 ай бұрын
I'm waiting for saitama having a form and he will clapp goku
@Board_Editz
@Board_Editz 9 ай бұрын
No matter what you say it would be a super cool fight
@Tf2gamer019
@Tf2gamer019 Жыл бұрын
I don't really get why people debate on anime's can you just stop debating
@rollylaunio933
@rollylaunio933 9 ай бұрын
The strongest alien vs the strogest human
@karimheddane6115
@karimheddane6115 11 ай бұрын
how goku ain t even multiverse level when he almost destroyed the universe while fighting ... he wasn t even prime ultra instinct , it was his first time in ssj god
@goku23213
@goku23213 7 ай бұрын
100 year timeskip goku joins the chat wait in not cannon peace ✌️
@RandomGama
@RandomGama 5 ай бұрын
Saitama went through hyperspace portals. And he can bend space and time
@Literal_potato
@Literal_potato Жыл бұрын
Goku did saitama's work out uncountable times by now + he has ultra instinct
@tbdrako752
@tbdrako752 9 ай бұрын
Saitama’s feats: punching through Boros final blast with a serious punch, leaping from the moon and back to earth, Obliterating Evil Ocean Water, One shots Elder Centipede, Saitama’s Serious Punch is able to split the sky, is able to use a Serious Table Flip to RIP THE CRUST OFF OF JUPITER’S MOON. Goku’s feats (includes DBS): Able to SHAKE THE ENTIRETY OF AN INFINITE VOID with his power, being able to move faster than a being who can Skip Time, Can move faster than the Speed Of Light, Able to completely negate Jirens Overheat Magnetron, able to dispel Jirens Infinity Rush, was able to break Moros hand when he punches Goku.
@user-cx3ri6ix9l
@user-cx3ri6ix9l 9 ай бұрын
HE SNEAZED AND KILLED JUPITER WHICH HAS FUCKING MULTIPLE HIGH LEVEL HURRICANES AND ON TOP OF THAT CAN TANK AN ASTEROID THE SIZE OF SATURN💀💀💀
@user-zw6re4ow7f
@user-zw6re4ow7f 11 ай бұрын
he dose love god god gave him power
@TheCloudDistrict
@TheCloudDistrict 5 ай бұрын
The math ain’t mathin. Multiversal in Base < Multi-Galaxy when full power????
@snailincident
@snailincident Жыл бұрын
Dragon balls power scaling is broken
@gojo-cy5sf
@gojo-cy5sf 8 ай бұрын
baiscally, terra is a type of measuring strenght. Goku has reached his limit (which is true ultra instinct) sand Goku is a warm up fighter. Put the pieces toghter and you'll see, because Saitama has no limit, and as i said, Goku is a warm up fighter, that means if Saitama one punches Goku fast enough,then Saitama will win. oh and Saitama can be terra4 and Goku may be a terra2 or 3. Now you know why Goku loses to Saitama.
@stealthyjay7692
@stealthyjay7692 11 ай бұрын
Instead of debating anime characters against each other why not compare anime against comics, so you can get true logic, but comics solo anime so be sure to agree to that
@JacksonnHead-mg7ol
@JacksonnHead-mg7ol 11 ай бұрын
Bro saitma can destroy trillions of galaxies with one fucking punch
@idkexit
@idkexit 10 ай бұрын
Never Statedm
@user-wx3xm6ui4n
@user-wx3xm6ui4n 4 ай бұрын
"saitama is very strong" "Goku is very strong" Why are you supporting a thing that doesn't even exist and we can make them more powerful if we want. See, an anime director can change everything so its useless.
@jamaljaquice7956
@jamaljaquice7956 Жыл бұрын
goku can still get stronger meaning he hasnt surpassed saitama cause saitama cannot become stronger
@pronitalangthasa7002
@pronitalangthasa7002 Жыл бұрын
@Hitler vince but i dont have photoshop saitama never broke his limiter he removed it thats means saitama can grow without limits and there is a big difference between breaking limiter and removing ti
@The_Red_Mist541
@The_Red_Mist541 Жыл бұрын
@@pronitalangthasa7002I think you mean breaking limits, goku still has a limiter, he only breaks a limit, Saitama grows infinitely because he destroyed his limiter
@michaelhas4eyez
@michaelhas4eyez 11 ай бұрын
Glazing
@flamellamarada4153
@flamellamarada4153 7 ай бұрын
When saitama gets a decent size cosmology then come to overballing the weak baldy cause he isn't even universal and his cosmology is small in comparision.
@BatmanIsSigma
@BatmanIsSigma Жыл бұрын
Saitama and Garou clash made a hole in milky way (Multi Solar) Saitama destroyed Jupiter gas with a sneeze (star level) Destroyed Garou who can shake the universe every time (universal)
@LeeLegends
@LeeLegends 11 ай бұрын
saitama destroying jupiter with a sneeze is large planet level and if u streched it dwarf star level
@LeeLegends
@LeeLegends 11 ай бұрын
shakeing the universe is not a universal feat. u can shake a car but that does not make u wall level(a car can break down walls therefore wall level)
@BatmanIsSigma
@BatmanIsSigma 11 ай бұрын
@@LeeLegends The energy of destroying Jupiter=dwarf star level+
@BatmanIsSigma
@BatmanIsSigma 11 ай бұрын
@@LeeLegends Ik
@LeeLegends
@LeeLegends 11 ай бұрын
@@BatmanIsSigma it can not be a dwarf level feat for 2 reasons. 1: that sneeze did not destroy the entire planet with the core still there 2: jupiter need to weigh 13 times its current mass to become a brown dwarf and Jupiter would need to be 80 times as massive as it is to turn into a small red dwarf star
@ffkw5364
@ffkw5364 Жыл бұрын
EYYO GOKU FANS I KNOW THAT BUT SAITAMA LIKE BROLY I SAW IT IN VIDEO THAT SAITAMA VS GAROU ALL BOTH POWER ARE INCREASED AS TIME GOES ON
@hellostupid6278
@hellostupid6278 10 ай бұрын
berserker mode saitama can predict all goku's move
@hellostupid6278
@hellostupid6278 10 ай бұрын
mui goku is nothing to serious mode saitama, saitama is faster and stronger
@legendry571
@legendry571 8 ай бұрын
goku almost destroyed the universe with beerus in his god ki and currently goku as much strong as beerus he also defeated jiren who is stronger than any God of destruction. goku also breaked the time skip of hit that makes he is faster than any beings
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