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Is Halsey's Poetry Bad?!

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Rachel Oates

Rachel Oates

Күн бұрын

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@RachelOates
@RachelOates 3 жыл бұрын
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@angelaamendola-anderson1806
@angelaamendola-anderson1806 3 жыл бұрын
You should check out her music's lyrics too! Her song more is so beautifully sad and evokes so much emotion and the way they did the sound in the bad ground to sound like an ultrasound is so good!
@7410n0
@7410n0 3 жыл бұрын
Rorschach is pronounced Roar-Shack in American English and Roar-Shock in British English
@sonam10107
@sonam10107 3 жыл бұрын
@Kadi Hunter can i ask why this is important to you?
@Reed5016
@Reed5016 Жыл бұрын
Do you have any tips on writing better poetry?
@user-ni3cj2in2o
@user-ni3cj2in2o 2 ай бұрын
First of all you judgemental b, if you can't even pronounce her name it's HALSEY AKA ACRONYM OF ASHLEY. THIS IS POINTLESS 😂😂😂😂😂 GO thru something dummy
@vaddlliinz3338
@vaddlliinz3338 3 жыл бұрын
Rachel: *Descriptively explaining and describing poetry* Meanwhile Kyra: Get down, couch >:(
@jadelizz4667
@jadelizz4667 3 жыл бұрын
i almost feel like the end of summer fruits can relate to miscarriage. she's struggled with fertility and has had a miscarriage in the past and with bits like "the dying leaves" and the final line "just empty space" it just reminds me of that struggle. also the juxtaposition of her spitting out the seeds as a child in horror willingly then when shes older and she wants the seeds or the plant she cant have it
@elizabeth_b
@elizabeth_b 3 жыл бұрын
and now she's about to have a baby!!! I'm so happy for her
@missbellaiza
@missbellaiza Жыл бұрын
@@elizabeth_b we all are ❤
@woolyvaro7814
@woolyvaro7814 3 жыл бұрын
I don't really know why people are surprised that a poetry book by a professional, successful songwriter wouldn't be bad. Yes, there are obviously songwriters in Pop music that aren't that great, but isn't her lyricism part of what people like about her music? EDIT: I am Aware, that being a good lyricist, does not make you a good Poet. What I'm saying is that I don't understand why people are surprised someone who makes their money by writing in whatever Medium, would potentially also be good in another one. If an actress was a good Poet, I'd be unexpected - a Songwriter, not so much.
@zakle3805
@zakle3805 3 жыл бұрын
It might be because, with music, the artist doesn't always write their own songs. You could be talented with singing or instruments, but still be a terrible or messy writer.
@oceaness1583
@oceaness1583 3 жыл бұрын
@@zakle3805 she writes her own lyrics ... You should check out her song called clementine, the lyrics are seriously amazing.
@manvysings
@manvysings 3 жыл бұрын
@@oceaness1583 Clementine is my favourite song of hers🥺
@nightcrawler8864
@nightcrawler8864 3 жыл бұрын
I think its due to the youtubers coming in the poetry book game but I agree. I feel like Songwriters are wayy more capable of writing poetry. Lou Reed and PJ Harvey are my favorite artists who are a good example of this
@oceaness1583
@oceaness1583 3 жыл бұрын
@@manvysings thats amazing! She really proves how good of a songwriter she is through that song!
@couchpot1298
@couchpot1298 3 жыл бұрын
i think you saying you don't know which one you prefer between Summer Fruits and Watermelon might be the exact reason she included both. different people will connect to the two poems differently and including one wouldn't give the option of exploring both to the reader. although i do agree they share a lot of common themes, she might've just not known which one is the better one to keep in.
@RachelOates
@RachelOates 3 жыл бұрын
Great point!
@rgs8970
@rgs8970 3 жыл бұрын
I wish she had had a third watermelon poem that fit the theme of phases of life
@moosewinchester8552
@moosewinchester8552 3 жыл бұрын
@@RachelOates i think the first one can be interpreted about her miscarriage and sex and the second one is mainly about sex so that may be why both are included
@QJ89
@QJ89 3 жыл бұрын
Is a Chelsea Smile anything like a Glasgow Smile? Apparently.
@lalaland7961
@lalaland7961 3 жыл бұрын
i think it would have been smart to have one at the very beginning and have one at the very end, kinda tying the book together and to a close. I think Summer Fruits would have been a sweet ending
@MilesSmiles8
@MilesSmiles8 3 жыл бұрын
It's easy to look at Gabbie Hanna's work and be like, "Huh, this isn't very good," but then when you compare it to something like this--ya know, GOOD POETRY--you're like, "Oh, wait, GH's work isn't just bad; it's absolute dog shit."
@robinmitchells
@robinmitchells 3 жыл бұрын
That’s one of the reasons why I like Halsey’s book so much. It shows that, even if not the most technically-sound and unique form-wise, you can still write some really good work if you just put the effort in, which Gabbie just refuses to do. (Which also serves as the most frustrating part of Gabbie’s books- she has a few poems in them that show she has such amazing potential and ideas, so it’s not like she can’t write good poetry, she just chooses not to because she knows her fans will buy it either way)
@KattReen
@KattReen 3 жыл бұрын
Look, different strokes for different folks right? I know it's fun and popular to dogpile Gabbie Hanna at all times for a whole lot of people, but there's nothing terribly egregious about her book. I like to call that sub genre of poetry basic white girl shower thoughts, and I think it's valid in spite of being vain and a bit childish linguistically(and isn't the blurb on the book stating that it's about feeling like an adult and a child at the same time? I would think childish writing would be a more authentic way to relay that feeling) because I think it's a bit elitist to gatekeep art from those who aren't very good at it or are just starting out, basically getting angry that they're seeing if someone is willing to buy it or if they're proud of it and want to publish it somewhere. The get good or get out mentality isn't helping create better art, it's discouraging people from even trying. There's definitely an audience for basic white girl shower thoughts, even outside of her own audience. Makes up a significant chunk of pinterest. Gabbie Hanna isn't a very good person, I get it. Toxic to the people around her. But her creative work is not really hurting anyone, and a lot of it isn't even that bad considering she probably hasn't been doing it for very long, and no one would be bashing her poetry if she wasn't already so disliked on this platform. And no, I don't care for her either, I wouldn't want someone like her in my life. But I'm also not going to jump on every goddamn Gabbie Hanna bandwagon just cause there's blood in the water. She can't do anything right by people, and they're watching her every move for the sole reason of finding fault in it and tearing her down over it. Even when it's a harmless fucking poetry book with some shower thoughts and doodles.
@robinmitchells
@robinmitchells 3 жыл бұрын
@@KattReen have you read Gabbie’s books at all? I have. In the first ones she wrote a poem about how she has ocd just because she likes to rearrange her pans so they’re organized in a row, and another poem where she writes a narrative pretending like she’s gonna self-harm (with some extremely triggering language) and then it turns out to be a fake out joke of her cutting her hair (and I don’t care about whatever excuses she had for that, it’s clear she was rewriting history because this is the only reading you can have of the work by itself), and a “poem” (read: a rambling mess) making a joke out of racism and discrimination and comparing it to colors of dog breeds. In the second one she has a poem that she has gone on record to say is about the harmful effects of homophobia but in it she heavily compares gay people to monsters and animals, and she wrote another poem about a girl with bulimia but calls the girls names like “a pretty bag of bones”, which again, is very triggering language to people with eating disorders. So yeah, her poems are harmful and that alone is enough to “dogpile” her. Fuck. People aren’t upset at her for her books because it’s fun or trendy or whatever the fuck. People are angry about her work because it has all the makings to be good and actually worth something, but she won’t put in the effort so it comes out dull and lifeless at best, insensitive and borderline-bigotted at worse. Not to mention the fact she’s charging money for it, and her schemes to get people to buy as many copies as possible (multiple covers, multiple versions, giving special attention on social media to fans who preordered multiple copies, etc), It’ll be one thing if she’s putting it out for free, but as soon as you start charging money for your work, the public has every right to criticize however they like. Add to that how, despite how you personally describe her work, she has gone on record numerous times to claim how deep and misunderstood her work is and that we’re not taking the time to fully “appreciate it”, when said work in question includes such classics as “link: in bio” and “I lost my credit card and called the helpline and the lady on the phone asked for the credit card number but I couldn’t tell her because I lost my credit card”. Yeah, people are definitely gonna take the piss to show the difference between her ego and her output. Shit, she wrote a poem in Braille dedicated to her blind friend molly but the Braille wasn’t raised which is how blind people read Braille! Now it’s just some useless dots on a page and I’m sure there’s at least one typo in there somewhere given the lack of effort placed elsewhere in the book (including the fact that one of her illustrations in the latest book has a major mistake in it that even her fans caught). So, yes, Gabbie’s books are worth all the criticism, and even if they weren’t, everyone gets criticism. If she can’t deal with it, she should have done a limited run of her book with an independent publisher and released it on etsy, not a worldwide mass release. If you put something out into the world and charge for it, well, people are allowed to voice how they feel about it. Reviews exist for a reason.
@arirenaldi508
@arirenaldi508 3 жыл бұрын
That's a mood, also shows she's not read poetry. (Also I'm sorry if I'm going crazy & you're not but are you japansace?)
@devilssemblance5938
@devilssemblance5938 2 жыл бұрын
@@BooksandBuns Say it again for the people in the back!!! 💯
@mymessynotebook2207
@mymessynotebook2207 3 жыл бұрын
Kyra is absolutely stunning today (and everyday).
@antonellafernandezcastella9184
@antonellafernandezcastella9184 3 жыл бұрын
On the first poem 14:04 you mentioned that this line probably refers to pregnancy and I remembered she had a miscarriage or wasn’t able to get pregnant for a while and how she said this made her feel empty, might not be about that at all but it reminded me of that
@dominikad.1368
@dominikad.1368 3 жыл бұрын
Halsey has actually been very open about suffering from endometriosis which is why I think she makes a lot of references like those in summer fruit. She did also had a miscarriage because of that in the past so I can definitely see that being a possible meaning
@destinyh3717
@destinyh3717 3 жыл бұрын
I thought that's what the dead leaves referred to. Very emotional and raw. However, lovely.
@michaelasteele77
@michaelasteele77 3 жыл бұрын
Her song "More" off her latest album Manic is incredibly heartbreaking and the production of the last chorus with the machine beeping and sounds underwater and far away as if you're the the baby inside her chokes me up every time I hear it
@rilesfomiles8662
@rilesfomiles8662 3 жыл бұрын
She actually performed live while going through a miscarriage which breaks my heart everytime I think about it
@weedthepuppy1
@weedthepuppy1 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah she had several miscarriages including one while she performed! Thankfully she's pregnant now and seems to be doing well!
@SequoiaSleeps
@SequoiaSleeps 3 жыл бұрын
Can I just say that I’m so happy you’re more comfortable talking about Johnny. Shitting on him in particular. In earlier videos you seemed very careful about the words you said, afraid of what might happen. It took you a while to say the word “abuse.” But now you’re more comfortable being open about what he did to you. Like you’ve been indirectly saying in these videos, words have power. It’s incredible to see you slowly taking back the power he had over you.
@Oceanblue_Art_
@Oceanblue_Art_ 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad she's comfortable saying his name because for a while I was under the impression that Dan had abused her and not someone else.
@adrianflo6481
@adrianflo6481 Жыл бұрын
can you fill me in, what has happened?
@greenonionbabey
@greenonionbabey 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you reviewed this!! Halsey has actually said that she started making music so people would pay attention to her poetry, and even beyond me being a fan, I think of all the "celebrity poets" she's one of the most sincere and genuinely skilled. I only wish it had been edited a little more in places, hopefully if she comes out with another collection it will be even tighter/more concise. Or else that she tries writing short stories or a novel because I think it'd be killer
@jadelizz4667
@jadelizz4667 3 жыл бұрын
baffles me that people could read "lighthouse" and still like g-eazy
@micagarcia2642
@micagarcia2642 3 жыл бұрын
ive been looking for this comment!
@verosaraiva
@verosaraiva 3 жыл бұрын
Rachel, you should review some of Taylor Swifts's poems and even some of her songs lyrics from the album folklore (a lot of people say they are basically poems)😀
@carmenq7339
@carmenq7339 3 жыл бұрын
ew
@xniella
@xniella 3 жыл бұрын
@@carmenq7339 huh?
@lpm894
@lpm894 3 жыл бұрын
Yeeees pls. I would love that video.
@vbgirl4050
@vbgirl4050 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see this as well!
@i.need.a.new.nickname
@i.need.a.new.nickname 3 жыл бұрын
@@carmenq7339 sacrilege
@JoyBloodgirl
@JoyBloodgirl 3 жыл бұрын
Kyra is so caring, the way she checks in on her mom and pets her with her paw
@scotograph45
@scotograph45 3 жыл бұрын
while I know you aren't a poet, I'm a current English major with a creative writing concentration and I truly have applied your input to make my poetry better. I listen to your videos like a podcast while I do reading assignments and write papers. If it's one thing I learned is that colleagues and friends and their opinions won't matter if the reader doesn't enjoy it. I love hearing from a reader's perspective!
@vampyrekyng_lex
@vampyrekyng_lex 3 жыл бұрын
She actually is a beginner poet
@willow-qr3zs
@willow-qr3zs 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if it's your type of music, but you should review hozier's lyrics!! they're wonderful poetry with so much religious and mythological symbolism, with themes of sex, love, addiction, abuse, death, just beautifully crafted
@fynnsternis6432
@fynnsternis6432 3 жыл бұрын
So, about the first poem you read, Summer Fruit: The mom told her that melon seeds can make a melon grow, and she spits them out in horror, and then later there are actually things growing in her. My thinking was: But, melon seeds actually aren't dangerous. That's one of those things adults find funny telling to children, making them afraid of swallowing melon seeds, when there is actually nothing to be afraid of. And I'm wondering if that was part of the poem? She used this metaphor to translate it over to a toxic relationship but for me there is an interpretation about how real melon seeds are actually not the dangerous thing after all. That her mom warned her about melon seeds when there are far more dangerous things out there, things that can actually make things grow inside of you, metaphorically speaking. I'm pretty sure this is absolutely not the idea she was going for, but I kind of like it ^^
@parkerisles7256
@parkerisles7256 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely analysis but I just recalled an episode of Rugrats where Chuckie thought he'd give birth to a watermelon because he swallowed its seeds.
@azure113
@azure113 3 жыл бұрын
i love your analysis
@AmyAberrant
@AmyAberrant 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought it was cruel the way parents enjoy making kids scared of watermelon seeds
@kingascheibler7671
@kingascheibler7671 3 жыл бұрын
I started crying when i could tell you were on the verge of tears. Im so sorry rachel. We're all here for you and you deserve to be happy after everything that pathetic boy put you through. Thank you for being so open with us, thank you for being so strong and selfless and lovely.
@Samantha-yn8tv
@Samantha-yn8tv 3 жыл бұрын
Ive been excited for this book, Halsey was a creative writing major in school!
@Sableagle
@Sableagle 3 жыл бұрын
37:00 Rachel: "This reminded me of Johnny." Kyra: *"GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!"* Yeah, Kyra. You tell him.
@gailism
@gailism 3 жыл бұрын
personally I think the watermelon poems reference each other, forming a sort of duology. I like that she kept both :)
@BeetleLaundry
@BeetleLaundry 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like "Summer Fruits" is the general and "Watermelon" is the specific, like the two work as a story.
@picklegurrl
@picklegurrl 3 жыл бұрын
I really think you'd love Halsey's music and overall vibe. She's a great activist and many of her songs (like nightmare) have clear feminist messages
@norie8939
@norie8939 3 жыл бұрын
I love Nightmare
@bee.ok666
@bee.ok666 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't listened to her in a while but I just remember being a 5th grader and getting the first sound of such poetic lyrics with her music and adoring every song like that
@joshuasivils2199
@joshuasivils2199 3 жыл бұрын
what about the transphobic tweets?
@norie8939
@norie8939 3 жыл бұрын
@Joshua Silvis Those were things she tweeted when she was a kid. It wasn’t ok, and she’s apologized for it. She has also since been an advocate for the trans community, calling out people who purposefully misgender them and even the owner of Victoria’s Secret days after she did his show and his transphobia came out. It’s not ok what she did but she did apologize, and then showed that she grew up by putting in effort to help the people she hurt.
@KattReen
@KattReen 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshuasivils2199 I'm sure you never said anything problematic in public or hurt anyone's feelings when you were 14 years old. Oh, you did? Well off to the guillotine then, you piece of trash, because there's no fathomable possibility that an adult is not the exact same version of themselves as they were as a literal child.
@lennajune
@lennajune 3 жыл бұрын
You should review Florence+ the Machine’s (Florence Welch’s) poetry book, I think it came out a few months ago
@mophead_xu
@mophead_xu 3 жыл бұрын
florence + the machine is the whole band, lol. like, i get what yer saying, esp being specified with the parentheses, but still kinda weird to attribute the book to the whole band.
@h.p.3072
@h.p.3072 3 жыл бұрын
is it good
@britann9539
@britann9539 3 жыл бұрын
Yessss!!!
@AmyAberrant
@AmyAberrant 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I already know that’s a masterpiece!
@Gulgathydra
@Gulgathydra 3 жыл бұрын
Tutorial: _How to pronounce Halsey_ say: "Hall" say: "I'm walking down the hall" say: "I'm walking down the hall, see me?" say: "I'm walking down the hall, see?" say: "hall, see" *say it again, faster*
@meretj9004
@meretj9004 3 жыл бұрын
pretty sure the last syllable is zee tho not see
@tobazko5491
@tobazko5491 3 жыл бұрын
It should be zee not see and also people w different accents pronounce hall differently
@Gulgathydra
@Gulgathydra 3 жыл бұрын
@@meretj9004 You're just not saying it fast enough. Let the words run together, the 's' turns into a 'z'.
@ritiaggarwal995
@ritiaggarwal995 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gulgathydra yeah it does
@m_adalena
@m_adalena 3 жыл бұрын
Lol I say ‘hell sea’
@alunoodalmheiri7028
@alunoodalmheiri7028 3 жыл бұрын
1:50 to 1:58 My heart just melted at how adorable Kyra is!!!!! *realizes i missed the point of the video* Ahhh poetry, yes. Very nice.
@rachelcarpenter3965
@rachelcarpenter3965 3 жыл бұрын
I was equally distracted by Rachel's hair. I am loving that color!
@Chris-ln7tr
@Chris-ln7tr 3 жыл бұрын
i’ve been so excited for this one!! halsey’s poetry was so inspiring to me, i adore this book so much and i cant watch the video yet but i’m dying to know your thoughts!!!
@chickpeapasta
@chickpeapasta 3 жыл бұрын
I would still love to hear your thoughts about Lana Del Rey’s poetry! 💙
@RachelOates
@RachelOates 3 жыл бұрын
I am working on the video ☺️
@beyond_jana
@beyond_jana 3 жыл бұрын
some of the poems in the books also later evolved into full blown songs - I find it really interesting to see how they compare standing on their own vs as part of songs! anyways I really enjoyed this video! most of the poems you highlighted as your favourites I definitely agreed with and I think hearing you talk about virus gave me a bit of a new found appreciation for the poem :)
@jmwvirgil
@jmwvirgil Жыл бұрын
I think 'Summer fruits' and 'Watermelon' are intended to compliment one another. 'Summer fruits' appears to be about the lust for a woman, whereas 'Watermelon' appears to be about the lust for a man.
@malvikamishra5428
@malvikamishra5428 3 жыл бұрын
In the summer fruit, the "dying leaves" could be about Halsey's miscarriage
@hecatecorinne7596
@hecatecorinne7596 2 жыл бұрын
Just paused and read "Goblin Market". Absolutely wonderful. I used to watch your videos a few years ago when it was mostly reviewing weird christian channels. I'm so happy to have found you again and see you doing well. Happily re-subscribed. Keep doing awesome. (P.S. I never unsubscribed in the first place. Just got a new screen name and lazily forgot to transfer)
@RachelOates
@RachelOates 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to have you (still) here, thank you!!
@Mara-fh1gf
@Mara-fh1gf 3 жыл бұрын
Your Voice is so soft and calm and whenever i'm having a hard time falling asleep because of my anxiety the only thing that calms me down is hear you talking. Thanks for existing! 🇧🇷💖
@Ostkupa
@Ostkupa 3 жыл бұрын
Halsey's music is such a mixed bag, and confusingly it's often the lyrics that I struggle with, sometimes she's just trying too hard - but I adore this collection. A little bit uneven sure, maybe a little too long, but it hits you like a punch in the throat whilst still being very playful and just the right amount of vulgar. It's great. Also, the first poem is I think the first time I've heard creativity described as something disgusting and I just adored that concept.
@elkieelkie
@elkieelkie 3 жыл бұрын
Fun girl reminds me of the “cool girl” monologue from gone girl. But I really do like Halseys poem too because she addresses the reader and tells us not the repeat her mistakes
@Sirglenneth
@Sirglenneth 3 жыл бұрын
Obviously Rachel purposely doesn't know anything about Halsey. But at 24:00 when she compares Gabbie Hanna as a musican to Halsey I had to laugh a little inside. She compared a viner turned youtuber turned musician to the 5th most streamed female artist of 2019. And was surprised that Halsey had rhythm. Like... a world of difference. Idk, just thought it was funny
@anotherspace2929
@anotherspace2929 3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@DP-tq7yu
@DP-tq7yu 3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the two poems about watermelon were intended to be almost identical because it shows the two different endings. One is a lot more optimistic whereas the second one is a lot more abusive. They could’ve been there to contrast one another, or maybe it was made so similar to show that it was about the same individual. Not really sure, but i don’t think this would’ve been a mistake considering just how identical they are.
@KanraLovesHumans
@KanraLovesHumans 3 жыл бұрын
I made a shimmering watercolor painting of Halsey for my roommate’s birthday who’s a huge fan and I gotta say, took forever but it’s a piece I’m really proud of lol. Halsey’s an awesome person so it was an honor to paint them 😊
@snc9035
@snc9035 3 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else feel like Kyra could sense when Rachel got emotional and was trying to make sure she was ok? 🥺🥺🥺🥺
@solastacey127
@solastacey127 3 жыл бұрын
Rachel, thank you for sharing about your experience with abuse. I’m sure that was not easy. ♥️
@hannahhannah7002
@hannahhannah7002 3 жыл бұрын
I actually really liked Summer Fruit and Watermelon seperatly. I feel like having a repeating motiff gives the book a more put together feel. It also gives the reader some time to sit w the imagery from the first one and it makes Watermelon more uncomfortable when you remember the previous imagery and what it meant
@marsh9564
@marsh9564 3 жыл бұрын
Rorschach is said like "roar-shack," makes me think of a shed that roars like a lion when the doors open, instead of rusty hinge noises.
@brunetteartist24
@brunetteartist24 3 жыл бұрын
It's nice to see rachel happy about the poetry she's reading for once☺️
@veronikakajosova6896
@veronikakajosova6896 3 жыл бұрын
I love your poetry videos, just a little technical thing.. the repetition of a word or phrase is only called anaphora when its repeated on the beginnings of verses. Repetition on the end of the verses is called epiphora and on the end of one verse and the beginning of the next one epanastrophe.
@RachelOates
@RachelOates 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@atinyevil1383
@atinyevil1383 3 жыл бұрын
If you could, I would love to hear your thoughts on the film Promising Young Woman. I just saw it and I thought it was very interesting and I’d like to hear thoughts on it from someone who doesn’t analyze films for a living.
@lianaivan1462
@lianaivan1462 3 жыл бұрын
Omg I NEED Rachel to do a review on this movie, it was so freaking good!!
@atinyevil1383
@atinyevil1383 3 жыл бұрын
@@lianaivan1462 agreed. And I think Rachel would have an interesting opinion on it.
@psychopathetic5341
@psychopathetic5341 3 жыл бұрын
OMG ACTUALLY I DIDNT KNOW HOW MUCH I NEEDED THIS TILL NOW. I learnt abt this movie from Amanda the Jedi and I've been meaning to see it ever since
@atinyevil1383
@atinyevil1383 3 жыл бұрын
@@psychopathetic5341 yes! Another Amanda fan! It’s a really good movie, but if you have a hard time with intense topics and violence, you might want to watch with caution.
@emclaire7027
@emclaire7027 3 жыл бұрын
I have been hyped about this movie since I stumbled across the trailer months ago and I'm dying to watch it but right now its only available to buy because it's still in theaters and I'm never keen on buying a movie I've never seen so I'm making myself wait until I can rent it.
@sienna2910
@sienna2910 3 жыл бұрын
i feel like watermelon feel like more of a specific moment where as summer fruit feels more broad
@leopie_777
@leopie_777 3 жыл бұрын
Love how Rachel has built this niche of poetry and book review on YT.
@The_Leftysaurus
@The_Leftysaurus 3 жыл бұрын
This was really interesting and so refreshing to have like a modern poetry book from a 'celebrity' that's not just fluff and bathroom tile poetry. I can't say I'm the best poetry reader myself, still getting used to it, but I do find it very interesting and I really kind of like her sort of disturbing, graphic word use? It makes you think and it makes you feel something, even if it's somewhat unpleasant. But I think like with all art, it's most powerful when it moves you, in whatever way. It's powerful when it touches you emotionally or even to the point where the emotional response leads to a physical, visceral response, that little twinge in your gut. I'm a little torn on the summerfruits and watermelon debate. I can see the idea of if becoming one solid poem. But I also kind of enjoy it as a set if that makes sense? Personally I see the other as sort of this is how it felt then, and this is how it feels now. And in that regard I personally enjoy the separation. There is time in between, these things didn't happen directly after one another. They are related but different experiences and therefore different poems.
@Sifirela
@Sifirela 3 жыл бұрын
I love the way Kyra is looking at you with such pure love.
@breatheinagain
@breatheinagain 3 жыл бұрын
"I am a light house" his siren call closed... She names herself as one who warns. I love that bit, really seems like the thesis for what she was doing there with the book.
@elliefuller3911
@elliefuller3911 3 жыл бұрын
Kyra back at it again being the cutest
@kaemincha
@kaemincha 3 жыл бұрын
omg we just read Goblin Market in my Lit class!! it was wonderful
@Apocalipstick
@Apocalipstick 3 жыл бұрын
What amazed me about this book, is that even though I already liked Halsey's songwriting, I kind of expected to have a book full of poems that felt like songs... but it didn't. It's just poetry on his own right and very good one at that.
@taniacordova1648
@taniacordova1648 3 жыл бұрын
My first language is spanish and poetry in English used to intimidate me. I really love that I found this channel because her pasion makes want to try it and revisite poetry in spanish.
@daisyko.3620
@daisyko.3620 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, Halsey sings her own lyrics which are her own poetry so it makes sense that her poetry would also at least have some lyrical qualities x
@rebecamaynart
@rebecamaynart 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't see anyone talking about it, but the poem Virus gave me another interpretation, much sadder and darker. About a father who abuses his daughter, the mother, conniving and impotent, straightens the sheets afterwards and consoles the daughter, but does not prevent her from being abused, hurt.
@marnim703
@marnim703 3 жыл бұрын
I love that your pupper knows when you're talking about a poem that stings and comes for cuddles and grumbles. Awesome poetry analysis as well haha.
@mya1207
@mya1207 3 жыл бұрын
Rachel’s poetry reviews spark so much joy/thoughtfulness in me and I just want to be in the moment forever
@sunnyspinach
@sunnyspinach 3 жыл бұрын
Lighthouse reminds me of Taylor Nicole Dean’s situation she has described about an ex. How she thought he was beautiful when he was sleeping. Very moving.
@mackenzieargue6434
@mackenzieargue6434 3 жыл бұрын
I feel you on the pronunciation! I started learning french as a second language in the first grade, and I just realised this year that I go to french pronounciation (even for english words lol) any time I cannot say a word out loud!
@kathrin4005
@kathrin4005 3 жыл бұрын
just wanted to say: i really love your videos and they inspired me to start writing and immersing myself into the amazing art of poetry ❤️✨
@zq5127
@zq5127 3 жыл бұрын
Pleasantly surprised. I’ve never listened to her music but for some reason she has a reputation for being “fake deep.” I’ve been neutral about her but now I’m intrigued. Def not fake deep from what I see lol
@crumbsicle5985
@crumbsicle5985 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved hearing your thoughts and interpretations here! I don't know much about Halsey but I really like her use of imagery throughout the poems you read. There's some pretty heavy content in there but it was executed in a sophisticated way and I found myself (sadly) relating to some of her stories. Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts!! (Also, whenever Kyra was on-screen, my cat totally thought she was in the room with us and he kept making little chattering sounds at her and it was so cute!)
@turtlefrogMH
@turtlefrogMH 3 жыл бұрын
I pronounce anaphora like “Anna-4-ah” 🤷‍♀️. Either way is probably fine, language is weird.
@lindat8168
@lindat8168 3 жыл бұрын
Anaphora is actually a greek word which is why it tends to be difficult to pronounce it in other languages, but your method is great!
@Orynae
@Orynae 3 жыл бұрын
@@lindat8168 I don't think that has much to do with it, acrobat is also a Greek word too and it's easy to pronounce haha. Also not sure about "other languages", anaphora is called "anaphore" in french and is very easy to pronounce. French doesn't have that weird thing where you put emphasis on one syllable and it changes how you pronounce all of the vowels in the word. It has other weird things ofc, but in the case of "anaphore", it's pronounced exactly how it's written.
@vampyrekyng_lex
@vampyrekyng_lex 3 жыл бұрын
@@Orynae Ancient Greek is quite literally impossible to pronounce, even for Greeks today. They do not properly know how to translate or pronounce a lot of words because it’s very different. The way you pronounce many Greek words is probably wrong
@vampyrekyng_lex
@vampyrekyng_lex 3 жыл бұрын
@@Orynae Also my grammar sucks at the moment because I’m running on very little sleep.
@Orynae
@Orynae 3 жыл бұрын
@@vampyrekyng_lex it's "wrong" for ancient greek, sure, but I'd argue that's not really relevant to the accepted English pronunciation (which is what we're talking about for "anaphora"). The "correct" English pronunciation of Ares is "air-eez" even though in Ancient Greek it's something like "ahr-ess" I think. 🤷 Modern English pronounciation doesn't follow Old English pronunciation either. The correct pronunciation of "name" isn't nah-m just because that's how it was in the "original" :p
@coralia.i9702
@coralia.i9702 3 жыл бұрын
that summer fruit thing makes me sob cause it makes me think of her miscarriage
@acesquare30
@acesquare30 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not through with the video yet, I've only gotten to the point where you're beginning to explain your thoughts on Watermelon, but I actually interpreted Summer Fruit to be about her sexual experience with a woman and Watermelon to be with a man (although a lot of people have pointed out it could be miscarriage vs sex as well and I can see merit in that too!). In Summer Fruit we see her allude to "two round mounds / hard like pink sugar" and since it succeeds the lines "...flesh from your lips" I personally interpreted it to be her talking about her experience with a woman. Moreover, we see the allusion to pregnancy in the beginning of the poem, but we don't see that replicated in the later half; instead we get imagery about "dying leaves" and the withering plant, probably indicative of the fact that there was no reproduction in the process, which would make sense if they were both women (it would make more sense for her to mention this especially when women' worth is often linked to fertility, and homophobia is often justified in terms of 'homosexuality is against nature', hence the withering plant). Watermelon is much more explicit in its implication that the experience is with a man, but Summer Fruit alludes less strongly to the presence of a man in the scenario. In this line of thinking, it would've made a lot of sense for her to include both Summer Fruit and Watermelon even though they contain a lot of the same themes, since she's always been vocal about her bisexuality and considers her attraction to multiple genders as equally important. Looking forward to finishing the rest of your video, and thank you as always for making these, they're an absolute delight to watch and learn from!
@Hoebafett
@Hoebafett 3 жыл бұрын
Back in 2018(?) halsey read the poem “a story like mine” that is also in the book at the Women’s March, I think you would really love to listen to her reading that one out loud if you haven’t already
@jackainsley4365
@jackainsley4365 3 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to comment and say you've inspired me to take up poetry again, both reading and writing. I used to write it all the time but became quite frustrated with how juvenile it seemed. Your kind but firm critiques have shown me it's possible to improve at poetry and even imperfect poetry can be meaningful and even clever.
@Robyn_Retro
@Robyn_Retro 3 жыл бұрын
I got a sense of powerlessness and distance and being trapped from Lighthouse. Wanting the room to move closer so the other people in the house could hear his screams. Not being able to speak up and ask for help or shelter.
@aekaguru6309
@aekaguru6309 3 жыл бұрын
I actually felt the cotton candy metaphor wasn't meant to jar the reader. To me, it evokes the image of this large mass of pink cotton candy almost melting into the water, so smoothly, like silk. It's like her mother is so cohesive with her and almost inseparable from her so the last line has an even greater impact.
@Fuzzysea693
@Fuzzysea693 3 жыл бұрын
That’s how I felt too!! Just melting away.
@BananaEnvyPodcast
@BananaEnvyPodcast 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t think Virus would make me cry, but it did. That one really struck a chord with me.
@ImmortalHDizzle
@ImmortalHDizzle 3 жыл бұрын
rachel your dress / top is so stunning on you. i love the drapery and silkiness with your hair and makeup
@annaelizabethhyland4275
@annaelizabethhyland4275 3 жыл бұрын
Kyra is so bloody cute, the audacity of this dog 😍🤭
@amareastralis9290
@amareastralis9290 3 жыл бұрын
I always pronounce it “roar-shark” hahaha
@mayorlewispurpleshorts9693
@mayorlewispurpleshorts9693 3 жыл бұрын
Kyra melts my heart 😭 She’s so sweet and adorable. 🥺
@electricsheep2597
@electricsheep2597 3 жыл бұрын
This is a beautiful video. Ngl I most definitely cried while watching this
@sophieclarke7107
@sophieclarke7107 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly this is one of my favourite poetry books. I was captivated. I'm not even a Halsey "fan" (well... Now I am) but honestly, the talent is sensational. Listening to Halsey read the poems on YT too (she has an audio for every single poem if anybody is interested) is even better than reading it in your own head. She's a true, true artist. Also, I'm SO glad you reviewed some good poetry, Rachel !!!
@heyitsjackie959
@heyitsjackie959 3 жыл бұрын
ooooo im excited for this one!
@simpleton7124
@simpleton7124 3 жыл бұрын
Omfg your hair is stunning😩🤚
@skyisxthelimitt
@skyisxthelimitt 3 жыл бұрын
please tell Kyra I love her and give her 17 extra kisses
@eishitamisra9890
@eishitamisra9890 3 жыл бұрын
Halsey had a miscarriage so the seed poem is probably accurate
@uchanananas8093
@uchanananas8093 3 жыл бұрын
Now because of you ı started to have an interest in poems, like ı do not have a hundred another hobbies. I thank you and curse you for showing me this new form of art.
@alacrity7591
@alacrity7591 3 жыл бұрын
I just remembered that one of my favourite musicians released a poetry book a while ago, too! It's called "Useless Magic" by Florence Welch. (From Florence + The Machine) I haven't checked it out yet, but I thought maybe that could interest you? (After the Lana one, of course~) Thank you for the great videos! I love that you found a little bit of a niche for yourself in terms of poetry critique.
@kristofize
@kristofize 3 жыл бұрын
You should check out the lyric for 'Forever. I never thought I would like Halsey thinkin her to be just a generic pop singer, but the her lyrics are very often pretty strong. Was surprised the first time I saw her live on a festival and only knowing her form the Chainsmokers song. 2 years ago i bought tickets to go see her live. Both were good shows, a lot of energy and she sounds pretty close to the studio version live if not better.
@emir3984
@emir3984 3 жыл бұрын
Idk why but the way you read Fun Girl made me cry
@emily67246
@emily67246 3 жыл бұрын
wait that's so weird i read a bad review on the book the other day and was literally gonna check to see if you had done a review so i could see what was up with it
@LARELARELARELARE
@LARELARELARELARE 3 жыл бұрын
I think the might be just me but I got really excited that she actually enjoyed this book. And I'm not a Halsey fan, I really just love watching people enjoy things, even if the thing isn't perfect.
@christinasolomon6363
@christinasolomon6363 3 жыл бұрын
I'm currently 18 on track to graduate high school. It was my dream to join the U.S. Army but for mental health reasons they denied me. I'm now trying to write a collection of poems about my life and your videos have helped so much. Your videos are helping me to find a new dream. Thank you.
@celestegobbi1704
@celestegobbi1704 3 жыл бұрын
Very excited to hear your thoughts on this one! I’ve already read the collection and my impressions have already sedimented for a while, so I’m really curious
@Juli-sh7qu
@Juli-sh7qu 3 жыл бұрын
When you are done watching the video would you mind sharing your thoughts about the book? I think it would be very interesting to hear other people’s opinions
@lauren6015
@lauren6015 3 жыл бұрын
I'd also like to hear your thoughts
@celestegobbi1704
@celestegobbi1704 3 жыл бұрын
​@@lauren6015 @Juli sure! So, very in brief I was a bit disappointed by it. I'm a huge fan of hers and have been reading her poetry since she posted them on Tumblr and really admire her songwriting capacities. I've deeply enjoyed both the message and the delivery of some poems in this collection (the lighthouse, the painter, i want to be a writer, virus, forever...is a long time, just to name a few): they were straight to the point, the imagery left me ecstatic and the rhythmic choice was impeccable. However, most of this collection felt unfinished. The poems are not bad per se, but they lack "something" that was present in the excellent poems of these collection, and I feel like their juxtaposition without contextualization harmed my enjoyment of it. I really appreciated her vulnerability and courage to treat these themes. What did you think of it?
@lauren6015
@lauren6015 3 жыл бұрын
@@celestegobbi1704 I haven't actually read the book but based on this video, I like what I hear so far. Although Rachel criticised the watermelon poems for being too similar, they actually reminded me of William Blake's Songs of Innocence and Experience. That collection was originally two seperate collections, one featuring poems from an innocent perspective, with the others from an experienced perspective. I really like the idea that Halsey* may have been inspired by that collection*, although I have no idea if that was her intention. I might actually invest in her book because I'd be interested to whether the standard is as high as I've seen in this video.
@tompatterson1548
@tompatterson1548 Жыл бұрын
I saw seed as a literal seed and a reference to the Hymn to Demeter, where Hades tricks Persephone into eating some pomegranite seeds to make it so she'll have to spend half the year in the underworld.
@princessinmittens4783
@princessinmittens4783 Жыл бұрын
i didn't know she wrote a poetry book. I think shes a great musician and she does write a lot of great songs. Thank you for covering her. I've been lately binge watching your videos. I broke my shoulder and you a so fantastic and are helping me with my pain.
@elsagreen1476
@elsagreen1476 3 жыл бұрын
"Fun girl" reminds me of the "cool girl" monologue from Gone Girl. Halsey's poems sound amazing, I might get that book. It's great to see you talk about poetry you enjoy!
@froge6652
@froge6652 3 жыл бұрын
btw, Rorschach is pronounced like “roar-shack”
@psychopathetic5341
@psychopathetic5341 3 жыл бұрын
Reallt? I always heard and say it as Shark
@melanie-rosannastevens7861
@melanie-rosannastevens7861 3 жыл бұрын
Ro(schwa) sch^x
@FlyxwhitxmeXx
@FlyxwhitxmeXx 3 жыл бұрын
Roar-shah*cat hissing noise*
@hearsae
@hearsae 3 жыл бұрын
you have no idea how excited i am for this video!! i'm a halsey fan and a creative writing student (:
@newyearseva
@newyearseva 3 жыл бұрын
i’d love to hear your take on rudy fracisco’s poetry!!
@MichiruEll
@MichiruEll 3 жыл бұрын
The one with the plot twist gave me goosebumps. Wow!
@dennisgrumple7754
@dennisgrumple7754 3 жыл бұрын
What time is that at)?
@heemashirvaikar9083
@heemashirvaikar9083 3 жыл бұрын
Loved Fun Girl... It reminded me of Gasoline which is one of my favourite Halsey songs! ❤️
@inotanzen
@inotanzen Жыл бұрын
Gosh I’ve read her collection so many times and cried at so many different parts of it but I haven’t read it again yet since being sick for the first time in 3 years at the end of 2022 and for the first time in a long time just wishing I had my mom, whom I don’t speak to anymore, to bring me cold medicine and some soup so your interpretation of Virus hit me in a way it never had before and I found myself crying which may sounds sad but I just found it really cool that even 2 years later Halsey is still finding ways to affect me with that damn poetry book ugh I really hope she puts out another.
@siksparnis
@siksparnis 3 жыл бұрын
would love to see a review of lana del rey's poetry book as well, you always have great insights into pop-poetry ^ ^
@bohemianvampire
@bohemianvampire 3 жыл бұрын
Love the dress! It looked so good in the photo you put on your Instagram!
@thklx
@thklx 3 жыл бұрын
Loved the way you talk passionately about poetry. Great video! 💜
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