Is HERO a HIGH TIER CHARACTER!?

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@gabrielabrera9966
@gabrielabrera9966 3 жыл бұрын
"We think he's high tier" Then why do you have him in mid tier on your website?
@younglink3924
@younglink3924 3 жыл бұрын
Idk
@tookilakid3342
@tookilakid3342 3 жыл бұрын
Prior to the pandemic, there weren’t enough offline tournament results to be sure of it (like every new dlc). I’m assuming once the pandemic is over and offline tournaments, I’m sure they’ll change it.
@ultragamer8816
@ultragamer8816 3 жыл бұрын
IKR
@jmiraculousmr.pikmar425
@jmiraculousmr.pikmar425 3 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Abrera Same thing with G&W they said he's top tier but place him in high tier on the character tier list
@elijaharroyo4846
@elijaharroyo4846 3 жыл бұрын
JMiraculous Mr.pikmar because like Hero, G&W has RNG elements like his side b
@oldhadwad
@oldhadwad 3 жыл бұрын
He can be high tier when RNG favors him
@dairyperez1683
@dairyperez1683 3 жыл бұрын
No that is top tier
@oldhadwad
@oldhadwad 3 жыл бұрын
@@dairyperez1683 Top Tier would mean you would see a lot more people consistently doing well with him. Joker, Lucina, and other top tiers can get results w/o RNG. I am happy to see him in high tier, but I cannot say he is top 10.
@emmanueloladosu8987
@emmanueloladosu8987 3 жыл бұрын
Basically.
@mr.tatortot6469
@mr.tatortot6469 3 жыл бұрын
Correction: the best character Guaranteed crits Thwack and wack always kill Hocus pocus give the best buffs Down b always gives the best options for the current situation.
@dairyperez1683
@dairyperez1683 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being able to just kill your opponents at 0% before they can even get a hit on you
@LuminixsGameGallery
@LuminixsGameGallery 3 жыл бұрын
Now that we know that this isn’t limnited to high or top tiers, you could do one for Pit: Is he Mid Tier or High Tier. Personally, I thinks he’s an underrated high tier character.
@Bitter.Tea.0w0
@Bitter.Tea.0w0 2 жыл бұрын
Hero main here! A few things that weren’t mentioned in the video were that: Metal slash: has higher chance of appearing in selection when next to a metal opponent Zoom: the closer you are to the blast zone the higher chance of it it appearing Kaclang: although you will be invincible using it, it has a 100% consistent time for invincibility and notable end lag after invincibility ends And normal attack made with both oomph and psych up breaks shield, not just back air The move swoosh moves down slightly after casting
@Anoter
@Anoter 3 жыл бұрын
Small errors : Woosh is frame 7 Landing Fair doesn't truly combo into grab (at least not as shown) But overall, not a bad video that shows well Hero's strenghs and weaknesses. I'd say he's a low high tier. Not bad but not good enough. He struggles against most top tiers
@emit6616
@emit6616 3 жыл бұрын
mid tier : incosistent, bad frame data, laggy air acceleration and one of the worst normal moveset, RNG and lucky depended. (Hero main btw), the only good thing that this character is it menu but still if is not get lucky he´s fucked up.
@trevaughnsmith506
@trevaughnsmith506 3 жыл бұрын
Just like Dragon Quest
@trevaughnsmith506
@trevaughnsmith506 3 жыл бұрын
Except menu selections are set in stone
@lucas20011020
@lucas20011020 3 жыл бұрын
Then why are you using hero ?
@emit6616
@emit6616 3 жыл бұрын
@@lucas20011020 : DQ 3 is my favorite videogame of all time also i am a big fan of DQ and i just say things that like are hero is mid tier and i don´t blame you of thinking why i play him or being hight-tier i just think he need a re-design but i like the character i am goign to main he for ever.
@N12015
@N12015 3 жыл бұрын
I'll say that Hero has directly the worst Dash attack, Up Smash and Back air in the game. He is slow in the air, bottom 10 frame data and his neutral has a deep flaw in the form of command select because to use it you must give stage control. Good thing he has like bowser or Link, a great Up-B OoS option to compensate that poor frame data, but still not enough to be a high tier. Now, High-mid or Low-Mid? I'll say High-Mid, altough barely. I just cannot ignore things like Oomp, Accelerate, Bounce, Psyche up or his vast list of great proyectiles he has.
@aerosyndrome3978
@aerosyndrome3978 3 жыл бұрын
When I saw "Mid-Tier or High Tier?" I was like. The. WHAT?
@mrrant_8065
@mrrant_8065 3 жыл бұрын
Only when RNGesus blesses him, then he can.
@jank9502
@jank9502 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing against the girl but these random shots of her in the video dont add anything and was an unnecessary change to the videoformat
@trentbell8276
@trentbell8276 3 жыл бұрын
I think the real issue was the random angles. That was weird.
@typhlosion7872
@typhlosion7872 3 жыл бұрын
I'd actually argue that Hero is low tier. Without the spells, Hero would be the 2nd worst character in the game, and with the spells, while he is better, it's still not enough to get him anywhere close to tournament viable as anything other than a random secondary for an unknown matchup, which is quite a bad gimmick.
@mcihele
@mcihele 3 жыл бұрын
And for next episode "Is Little mac low tier, or the tier?"
@aidenpak3556
@aidenpak3556 3 жыл бұрын
Kirby has the most different attacks
@chessterthemadlad3747
@chessterthemadlad3747 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing
@stalky4
@stalky4 3 жыл бұрын
overall yes, but not compared to hero in a actual match. even a 8 player smash with different characters wouldnt give kirby enough moves
@TheForever206
@TheForever206 3 жыл бұрын
Its always interesting putting a face to the voice I've been hearing for the last few weeks.
@tattaima2666
@tattaima2666 3 жыл бұрын
as a hero main i support this message The Luminary Approves
@silverancient7840
@silverancient7840 3 жыл бұрын
Hero's regular moves are strong and fun to use.
@Taktaagic
@Taktaagic 3 жыл бұрын
I love using his regular moves too. Stuff like F-Air are so visually satisfying to see. I’m hoping most of his normals get buffed to see him come out of low tier.
@Finferno00
@Finferno00 3 жыл бұрын
Swoosh, tier 2 of up special, gives him significantly better horizontal recovery. His best spell is by far zoom, because of the multiplier you get offstage. 50% chance to pull it offstage if primed.
@pubertdefrog
@pubertdefrog 3 жыл бұрын
If I'm correct, I believe the critical hit is an input as well. Once I get more info il let you guys know
@is44ct37
@is44ct37 3 жыл бұрын
I love the camera quality!
@Higgy8
@Higgy8 3 жыл бұрын
"Thwack, along with Whack Kamikazee and Metal Slash, are the only way to instakill an opponent in competitive smash" But Roy neutral b?
@dimitrimoisiades7292
@dimitrimoisiades7292 3 жыл бұрын
High tier without a doubt. The character is slow sure but he has a ton of moves that can deal some insane damage if not kill at ridiculously low percents. In fact if you are lucky enough to have experienced an oomph, physic up, and a crit all stacked on each other than you don't know what the joys of playing hero are
@blui3609
@blui3609 3 жыл бұрын
There’s only a little bad things in his menu and you get multiple selections each time u do go in the menu. And don’t get me started on neutral b...
@erictennison4673
@erictennison4673 3 жыл бұрын
Mid tier, if rng is counted he’s a inconsistent low high tier
@DonFergiee
@DonFergiee 3 жыл бұрын
5:50 you missed out the 2nd variant of his Up-B that can be used if you only charge for a small amount of time
@pyrothelanky7453
@pyrothelanky7453 3 жыл бұрын
Oh hey, I was requesting this kinda thing for awhile now. I'll glad it's finally here! Tho, I doubt it was me who caused it
@xpluslegend1525
@xpluslegend1525 3 жыл бұрын
He is probably Top Tier Online But maybe Mid Tier offline
@ahmadkazan7994
@ahmadkazan7994 3 жыл бұрын
I think it is dependant.RNG can help him get to high tier but note that it can back fire too,putting him at low tier too.
@flyforce16
@flyforce16 3 жыл бұрын
LadyLuck is awesome! Keep up the great content!
@LADYLXCK
@LADYLXCK 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much ♥
@Quinnsula5
@Quinnsula5 3 жыл бұрын
Please do this with link or do a complete history on link
@seanquick5115
@seanquick5115 3 жыл бұрын
the middle charge up b actually increases his air speed
@onimaru2933
@onimaru2933 3 жыл бұрын
As a hero main that's in elete smash open list and pres anything when fast characters approach best option ong
@Kaze91
@Kaze91 3 жыл бұрын
ive used hero since his release, and the fact is that he is high tier. having an oos option that fast, negates alot of things that would normally out frame or combo him to hell. all of the frizz line is good, stage 1 for combos, confirms and insanely fast zoning, stage 2 for spacing and perfectly safe damage that can kill. and 3 which has some frame traps it can confirm into. same basically for zap line except zap is actually insanely busted cause its a disjoint and not a projectile. his low percent combo game is actually very good and he has the fastest grab you can have in this game at frame 6. and this is before all the command selection aka kaboom(probly the most broken move in smash lol). he def has the sauce. im not mentioning the crits but those are broken if it works and sad when it doesnt so i dont factor that in because its inconsistant no matter what you do. its a nice bonus though.
@josephassiryani9174
@josephassiryani9174 3 жыл бұрын
Ooooh this was a good choice
@daorientalgamer6610
@daorientalgamer6610 3 жыл бұрын
She didn't even mention that zoom appears more frequently when near the blast zone
@kagexice7679
@kagexice7679 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like he could be more if more people played him
@forcepalmproductions9158
@forcepalmproductions9158 2 жыл бұрын
facts
@Taktaagic
@Taktaagic 3 жыл бұрын
I’d say he’s Low, or even Bottom Tier. The majority of his frame data is some of the worst in the game, and unfortunatly has to rely on only his magic in most situations. It’s probably why I suck as a Hero player, cuz I like to use more than just magic
@kokakadoo9101
@kokakadoo9101 3 жыл бұрын
His frame data isnt great, but some of the worst in the game, is just objectively not true
@younglink3924
@younglink3924 3 жыл бұрын
@@kokakadoo9101 I mean who else has a bair that comes out on frame 18
@kokakadoo9101
@kokakadoo9101 3 жыл бұрын
@@younglink3924 shulk back air is frame 19
@younglink3924
@younglink3924 3 жыл бұрын
@@kokakadoo9101 wait holy shit it is
@younglink3924
@younglink3924 3 жыл бұрын
@@kokakadoo9101 But he not force to use his bair,for hero to kill with out his mana he need to use his Bair
@shakedbar2767
@shakedbar2767 3 жыл бұрын
i think hero is the best character in the game every (regular) hero move does 40 percent and now with the hero amiibo every hit he does will kill you at -50 percent
@mongoosedoesmagic6478
@mongoosedoesmagic6478 3 жыл бұрын
Hero is X tier where X is your luck
@crispy0range
@crispy0range 3 жыл бұрын
They think hes high tier but hes mid on the official website *when do the lies stop*
@2g4u56
@2g4u56 3 жыл бұрын
Is Falco mid or high tier PLEASE I would love to see that video!
@evotheevolutions
@evotheevolutions 3 жыл бұрын
you get a dislike alone for that subscribe to proguides down below joke
@thewisthersgames
@thewisthersgames 3 жыл бұрын
Now we need Meta Knight is a Low Tier or Middle Tier?
@blui3609
@blui3609 3 жыл бұрын
Meta knight is the most mid tier a mid tier character can be
@dca564
@dca564 3 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is, last year I actually fought ladyluck in bracket and managed to reverse 3-0 her for 2nd place. The solo hero bracket.
@sharifbrown3567
@sharifbrown3567 Жыл бұрын
Who is lady luck?
@dca564
@dca564 Жыл бұрын
@@sharifbrown3567 a peach player
@W_Sinner
@W_Sinner 3 жыл бұрын
Banjo next
@Exl6243
@Exl6243 3 жыл бұрын
He's definitely high tier. RNG doesn't mean completely uncertain. Hero has some of the most broken options, and just because he doesn't get Magic Burst, Kaboom, Bounce, or some other broken option first try doesn't mean he won't get it eventually with more time, and that time will come when your opponent is in disadvantage. That, combined with his already broken neutral special and side special definitely make him high tier (these can kill SUPER early).
@presion5628
@presion5628 3 жыл бұрын
So I play Pokémon, AKA I always see RNG as 50/50s, then mid tier.
@raspberrykoolaid6159
@raspberrykoolaid6159 3 жыл бұрын
Is Kirby Low or Bottom Tier
@lbesavant
@lbesavant 3 жыл бұрын
Your tier question vids are very inconsistent with your website. Why is that?
@pyrothelanky7453
@pyrothelanky7453 3 жыл бұрын
It's because they never update their tier list
@lbesavant
@lbesavant 3 жыл бұрын
Pyro The Lanky They update their tier list once every 2 or 3 months, but they actually moved Hero from B to C tier.
@jetcrude
@jetcrude 3 жыл бұрын
As a Hero main, I somewhat disagree he’s a high tier character. I consider it he’s a mid or border line mid tier. His frames are flawed & he is a bit of a heavy weight (the very least) which means he get combo on easier. He may be a scary character to against with including RNG’s. But in the nowadays, he’s that not scary at all for except the bad matchup characters. Hero has 21 spells but 4 of the spells are useless which is Metal Slash, Kaclang, Kamikaze (on the last stock), and Hocus Pocus. Hocus Pocus is not very recommended in competitive or at least you want to gamble, but the bad odds out weight the good odds. For obnoxious spells which is Kaboom, Magic Burst, Thwack, Snooze, & Flame Slash. For most obnoxious move other than spells is Stage 2 Zap attack (Zapple). So yea, Hero is not that very competitive. Here’s some tips to defeat Hero To Edge guard Hero, all of his Woosh moves are a bit easy to 2 frame. But keep sending back out stage to waste his MP. His first stage of Woosh is 5, then 9 for second, & 18 for the last stage. And also Zoom needs 8 MP. Don’t let them hit you on shield too often, it gains more MP. Thwack, Flame Slash, Kacrackle Slash, Magic Burst, Kamikaze, & Bang/Kaboom (only the explosive part) can 2 frame, especially Kacrackle Slash.
@dpoopoop
@dpoopoop 3 жыл бұрын
High tier because its one of my main characters.
@spongeman3090
@spongeman3090 3 жыл бұрын
So you got 'Top or High', then 'High or Mid' and then 'Mid or Low'. So that means you will do Pikachu and Joker as 'Top or Top' and Kirby, Little Mac and Ganondorf as 'Low or Low' for April Fools. Calling it!
@fastestniggaalive
@fastestniggaalive 3 жыл бұрын
DAYUM 👀
@nhampton5795
@nhampton5795 3 жыл бұрын
Hey can you do marth next because I think he is high teir as well
@chaselangone5643
@chaselangone5643 3 жыл бұрын
Try corrin is corrin a low mid mid or high
@pantone448c0
@pantone448c0 3 жыл бұрын
Do Pichu next!!!!!
@ahmadkazan7994
@ahmadkazan7994 3 жыл бұрын
2:18 hold up is that a tilt or jab?
@kajin2422
@kajin2422 3 жыл бұрын
Idk if u still need the answer but it’s a 2 hit tilt like Links F-smash. One hit is a shield which gives NO knock back and is used as an invincible shield, with a second slash coming afterwards. I’m a hero main and don’t really use this move too much cause the shield takes too much start up time. But will use it occasionally if I notice them going in for a dash attack or smt 😎
@Swaggo_
@Swaggo_ 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. I say he's low High teir because his Crits give him that extra edge to be high teir.
@aerosyndrome3978
@aerosyndrome3978 3 жыл бұрын
4:16 Umm what happened here?
@younglink3924
@younglink3924 3 жыл бұрын
Audio sucks
@lbesavant
@lbesavant 3 жыл бұрын
LadyLuck sometimes has problems with audio, but give em a chance man. They just got hired by ProGuides
@daorientalgamer6610
@daorientalgamer6610 3 жыл бұрын
That's part of the song
@aerosyndrome3978
@aerosyndrome3978 3 жыл бұрын
@@lbesavant Ik it was a joke
@omgitsjeromed
@omgitsjeromed 3 жыл бұрын
Remember when people wanted to ban him LOL
@ShayYuichi
@ShayYuichi 3 жыл бұрын
Anybody going to comment on Leffen saying he wants to ban Hero?
@op123malik7
@op123malik7 3 жыл бұрын
If your lucky and can get an average of 3 reads he's the best character in the game
@MetaKnightX6
@MetaKnightX6 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like he could be top tier
@zamirreyes7011
@zamirreyes7011 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh... she told me to subscribe and then she said wacky afterwards....... what?!?!?
@matthewkim9562
@matthewkim9562 3 жыл бұрын
Chroy next plz?
@theking-wd9vu
@theking-wd9vu 3 жыл бұрын
Is link mid tier or high tier
@nacitalatincirli793
@nacitalatincirli793 3 жыл бұрын
hE İS tOp TİeR
@younglink3924
@younglink3924 3 жыл бұрын
Mid tier if you really want to stretch it, he would mabya be high tier if he had combo
@hapitoons5874
@hapitoons5874 3 жыл бұрын
She pretty :3
@coconutananass8978
@coconutananass8978 3 жыл бұрын
Top tier
@h4jdesh_10
@h4jdesh_10 3 жыл бұрын
0:16 but perhaps none quite as outrageous as Hero Minecraft Steve: *am I a joke to you*
@greysonshartzer4362
@greysonshartzer4362 3 жыл бұрын
Smash 4 bayo proceeds to zero to death both steve and hero
@h4jdesh_10
@h4jdesh_10 3 жыл бұрын
And smash 4 Cloud proceeds to ask bayo: what did I miss
@greysonshartzer4362
@greysonshartzer4362 3 жыл бұрын
Brawl Metaknight enters the room
@tyleroliver5077
@tyleroliver5077 3 жыл бұрын
Leroy Smith: why am I here, this isn’t my game?
@h4jdesh_10
@h4jdesh_10 3 жыл бұрын
Melee Fox hiyaas into the room
@desh206
@desh206 3 жыл бұрын
DO IS BOSWER JR LOW OR MID TIER?
@N12015
@N12015 3 жыл бұрын
The question should be: He is low or bottom tier? It's just another low tier like kirby or King DDD, not as bad as the Bottom tier trio of Ganondorf, Isabelle and Little Mac.
@desh206
@desh206 3 жыл бұрын
I DON'T SEE THIS CHARACTER AS A LOW OR BOTTOM TIER
@namialus1376
@namialus1376 3 жыл бұрын
i was just watching hero vids but idk he too expensive
@younglink3924
@younglink3924 3 жыл бұрын
So 6 dollar is to expensive
@namialus1376
@namialus1376 3 жыл бұрын
@@younglink3924- no, for educational stuff $150 is too expensive but after i got minecraft, a switch, and ssbu, andthing related to gaming over $5 is too expensive
@dpoopoop
@dpoopoop 3 жыл бұрын
Hero is high tier because... F O R W A R D S M A S H
@ultragamer8816
@ultragamer8816 3 жыл бұрын
Mii gunner is a more viable character
@zacharyalford8185
@zacharyalford8185 3 жыл бұрын
Is Ridley low tier or lower tier?
@ryffboit4234
@ryffboit4234 3 жыл бұрын
high tier
@jaydeengilling8374
@jaydeengilling8374 3 жыл бұрын
Tier list don't matter!!!
@anidea3130
@anidea3130 3 жыл бұрын
Bowser jr mid tier or high tier
@ultragamer8816
@ultragamer8816 3 жыл бұрын
Hero relies too much on RNG
@vjoe5389
@vjoe5389 3 жыл бұрын
I personally think that Hero can not and should not ever be ranked on a traditional tier list. He is too RNG dependent and 1 minute Hero could be the best character in the game. The next minute, Hero could be bottom 5 in the game. With "average" RNG, Hero is upper mid tier or lower high tier. He is too inconsistent to rank so therefore, Hero should not be ranked on a traditional tier list. With how balanced Ultimate is, I think Ultimate should not use a traditional tier list but rather a tier list similar to what the Tekken fan base uses. With one of those types of tier lists (forgot what the specific tier list is called) I think it could be possible to rank Hero somewhat more accurately and properly. Other characters that fit in the "unrankable" category in my opinion are Ice Climbers, Lucario, the Mii's, Hero, and Min Min/Steve. Min Min/Steve should not be ranked until tournaments open up again. We know that Min Min is an absolute goddess online and Steve is likely to also be a god online as well but we won't know their true power/potential offline until tournaments open up again. Ice Climbers/Hero are too inconsistent to be ranked so they should not be ranked until we got more consistent results or we use a different style of tier list. Lucario/the Mii's have almost no results so we don't really know what they can truly do so they shouldn't get ranked until we get more results. Characters like Little Mac and Dr. Mario don't get many results either but it is extremely easy to see why they suck so they don't really qualify on the "unrankable" category the same way that Lucario/the Mii's do in my opinion.
@spiralgamer7356
@spiralgamer7356 3 жыл бұрын
You love the subscribe button your close to 100 thousand soo good luck
@themasterblaze7563
@themasterblaze7563 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing against the her, but I feel like I'm watching a Watchmojo video. Especially with the Awkward camera at the beginning and the simple "safe-teacher" languge for 80% of the video. It feels like it's trying super hard to be my friend as opposed to Bonk's script style who is just boisterous and loud. He sounds like he's having a good time and is telling me what's what. Imo Bonk's narration is less cringy even though she wasn't cringy at all.
@yaboi1244
@yaboi1244 3 жыл бұрын
Hero is Top tier
@Rarest26
@Rarest26 3 жыл бұрын
Look, something I can agree! Good job! Although IMO he’s closer to top than mid
@pizzaemperor3553
@pizzaemperor3553 3 жыл бұрын
Crits are bull, everything else is fine
@NotDM
@NotDM 3 жыл бұрын
Luigi mid or high tier 😳
@MinMin4theWinWin
@MinMin4theWinWin 3 жыл бұрын
Well not faster than sonic
@alx4090
@alx4090 3 жыл бұрын
Hero is random tier
@jasonvelasco90
@jasonvelasco90 3 жыл бұрын
He's too slow and without rng he's just a really under whelming character
@AL-vd6ib
@AL-vd6ib 3 жыл бұрын
Tru but tbh his speed is pretty average
@reyesle6709
@reyesle6709 3 жыл бұрын
Everybody is a gangsta until hero activates acceleratle
@MokembeOak
@MokembeOak 3 жыл бұрын
He's faster than Mario
@TheForever206
@TheForever206 3 жыл бұрын
@@MokembeOak maybe so but mario has faster frame data.
@MokembeOak
@MokembeOak 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheForever206 he still isn't sloe
@Ax3Rei2000
@Ax3Rei2000 2 жыл бұрын
I main hero I don't use down B I'll beat anyone here
@hosiu714
@hosiu714 3 жыл бұрын
ProGuides: Mid tier or high tier? Me: Top tier
@aidanshim7606
@aidanshim7606 3 жыл бұрын
Hero is too inconsistent to be high tier. He feels a bit sluggish, random, and kinda clunky. Not a bad character, just not a consistent one.
@typhlosion7872
@typhlosion7872 3 жыл бұрын
Mid tier easily
@Rexcalibar
@Rexcalibar 3 жыл бұрын
RNG Tier
@Zwill1208
@Zwill1208 3 жыл бұрын
Bro is bottom 1
@bowsertnt7904
@bowsertnt7904 3 жыл бұрын
He’s a mid tier and he’ll never be higher
@kokakadoo9101
@kokakadoo9101 3 жыл бұрын
Ok bowser tnt
@bowsertnt7904
@bowsertnt7904 3 жыл бұрын
Ok kokak Adoo. Have too much weaknesses to be higher imo
@blui3609
@blui3609 3 жыл бұрын
Ok bowser tnt
@ultragamer8816
@ultragamer8816 3 жыл бұрын
Mii gunner is better
@NVS_Snake
@NVS_Snake 3 жыл бұрын
High Mid (B)
@bpun4850
@bpun4850 3 жыл бұрын
no
@ultragamer8816
@ultragamer8816 3 жыл бұрын
Mid tier because he relies too much on RNG
@midoriluma705
@midoriluma705 3 жыл бұрын
Stop milking people of their money.
@arunegmd4429
@arunegmd4429 3 жыл бұрын
Hero is mid to high. Its based on play styles as well..RNG gods can be shredded if they have bad luck or if you hog your MP and barely use your Down B its high tier if you're good.
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