Hey everyone! I finally got the coin checked out at a local coin shop: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pdNxaZCiurialXU.html
@retparatrooper3 жыл бұрын
Never ever trust a local coin shop
@mokejones21143 жыл бұрын
you still buying gold coins i have some
@blackghost17342 жыл бұрын
I could see it was real before I even clicked on the video. It has that good energy of accuracy and authenticity
@mrvax24 жыл бұрын
On a new real coin, seems like when held right, you will see a circular pattern swirl. This coin looks genuine.
@LuckyVagabond4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I had the coin verified by a coin shop with a Sigma Metalytics tester.
@LaCatHTF3 жыл бұрын
It’s real. I’ve had many with those spots
@noctilucent7396 Жыл бұрын
Is it a copper spot? Anyway to remove it?
@oahuhawaii21413 жыл бұрын
The rim is needed to be higher than the design elements of the coin so that the coins can be stacked without falling over.
@silverwiskers73713 жыл бұрын
its supposed to weigh heavier because its 22k gold, it has exactly .5toz of pure gold and added silver and copper for durability, its actually the best way to have coins that ain't so soft that the smallest bump will leave a nasty mark on it
@koehh46522 жыл бұрын
It is 1 Troy Ounze of gold and added copper and silver. Not .5 oz
@tinypanther3320 Жыл бұрын
I had a 1986 gold eagle once those Roman numbers drove me crazy tho lol 😂
@LuckyVagabond Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't like the Roman numerals either.
@ianunlimited29882 жыл бұрын
Copper spots are a sign the coin is genuine…. Kinda like milk spots on silver
@retparatrooper4 жыл бұрын
No doubt real, you can tell by the definition and the pin wheel reflection
@thedlguy13543 жыл бұрын
Also without testing it with machine, you can tell by nested eagle wing and the wrinkled eye on the flying eagle
@seantyler7401 Жыл бұрын
Looks real. 86 has 3% silver and 5% copper. It won’t look like other gold .999 fine
@patrickkerner147110 ай бұрын
Saw such on a restrike, caused by particle when striking
@LuckyVagabond10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment. I had the coin professionally tested and it's real.
@trackpackgt8774 жыл бұрын
It's real I seen somewhere that the red spots are an imperfection that got stamped into the coin during the minting or something like that and some early American eagles have them.
@LuckyVagabond4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. I appreciate the reassurance. I'm lucky to have it. Beautiful coin.
@dockozy8 ай бұрын
real gold will ring when you tap it. that is the best test
@LuckyVagabond8 ай бұрын
I ended up taking it to a coin shop and they verified it's real. Thanks!
@raginggamer21094 жыл бұрын
Do the magnet test. Also, take it to your LCS amd they can test it.
@gex82975 жыл бұрын
Just use a pencil eraser to wipe away that red spot. I had one on my coin and it totally worked perfectly. I don't know how but, it just worked
@LuckyVagabond5 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, interesting. Worth a try. Thank you.
@erichood31695 ай бұрын
Rim looks uneven. But id bet its real just starting video. Our mint isnt as good as we think.
@LuckyVagabond5 ай бұрын
I had it tested at a coin shop and it's real!
@gblargg3 жыл бұрын
Also do a ping test! That is virtually impossible to fake given the size and weight are correct.
@sirnoname69432 жыл бұрын
Ruins the value tho
@gblargg2 жыл бұрын
@@sirnoname6943 Ping test ruins the value? Tap it with something soft like plastic or wood, not metal.
@HifiCentret3 жыл бұрын
Your scale. Get a calibration weight (probably 50 gram for your scale) and look in the manual how to calibrate it (or find a video on youtube). Even the cheaper chinese ones are actually quite good and good enough for that scale. Caliper: You might very well get a slightly thicker reading on the center of the coin. To protect the coin use tape on the jaws. Zero it after applying tape. Since you've got it for that long there's no doubt it's real. Only recently there has been tungsten filled coins. While they fit size and weight they do fail the ping test. You can even find apps that'll analyse the frequency to tell you not only does it ping but frequency also is within expected range. On top of that I do believe that tungsten is slightly magnetic (use small powerful neodymium). The spot: You can get various coins "dips" if you want to remove the spot. I believe the silver content makes it a little more prone to spot corosion than it's original big brother - the Krugerrand. Also the in the datasheet for Krugerrand sizes are given as maximum - they're typically slightly less and weight is minimum and typically some 1/100 gram heavier. In fact all bullion gold coins are a little heavier than their specified weight - 1. because even at 9999 fines there's still a teeny tiny amount of something else - mostly copper and silver - 2. because you're guaranteed to get the specified amount and since there's always manufacturing tolerances they must take that into account. Mostly you're lucky and get slightly more than you pay for - if unlucky you get exactly what you pay for.
@boomboomboom92974 жыл бұрын
I have one like that too. But no spots. However, I have afew 9999 gold bar with spots on them and those bars have anticounterfeit designs on them. Maybe just impurities.
@LuckyVagabond4 жыл бұрын
The gold eagles are roughly 92% gold, 5% copper, and 3% silver, so decent amount of copper in it. I just got the coin verified and it checked out as 100% legitimate. Thanks for the comment.
@davidgatzke83376 ай бұрын
31.103 gm if it was pure 24k it’s 21k 10%copper silver alloy 8?2? Because of the age, it is most likely a real fake are more of a recent problem A sigma will tell you, if not the best way is to give it Ping test
@LuckyVagabond5 ай бұрын
I did take it to a coin shop where they used a Sigma machine to test. It's real based on the tester and shop owner.
@carloshernandez3633 Жыл бұрын
I have the same coin. However, the one I have is rated by NGC PF 69 Ultra Cameo, 1986 W EAGLE G$50. Do you know the value of this coin? Thank you
@LuckyVagabond Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. I would guess your coin is probably worth around $2500.
@MelloGee33 Жыл бұрын
Those thickness edge tests (not diameter) on precious metal bullion coins with a micrometers is just a "guide". If you have any finning or hard or softer strikes of the planchet blank back when they struck the coin, especially on softer coins like Gold Buffalos, you can have thickness variations (along reeded edge) being off as much as 1.2 to 1.3 mm. I've seen it on authentic Buffalos several times. Just an FYI.
@LuckyVagabond Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great tip!
@jadenephrite7 ай бұрын
Since tungsten has almost the same density as gold at 19.3 grams per cubic centimeter, then the pinging sound tester can reveal if there may be a hidden tungsten core inside a gold coin @ kzfaq.info451B8uVFJ3g
@LuckyVagabond7 ай бұрын
It's real! Thank God.
@princegriffin21215 жыл бұрын
It's fake I will give u 25 dollars 4. It so I can use it as a example of a fake
@LuckyVagabond5 жыл бұрын
Haha! Its on the way to you.
@HDDynalowrider2 жыл бұрын
Have you coin shop test it if you dont know.
@voltsoftruthBSbuster2 жыл бұрын
Just by looking at it, I would say I'm 99% certain its real, and the weight of the coin can be over the specification it typically is cause they would rather give you a bit more than short you, it just can't be under. But you can always do a specific gravity test. Its very simple, all you need is a small plastic cup filled with water and a scale, and a string to tie to your coin. You can look up the test, and it will give you a detailed explanation on how to perform the test. But in short you will weight the coin on its own, then weight the coin in the cup of water, but it has to be in the water but can't be dropped or touch the bottom, hence the string to hold the coin steady in the center off the cup. Then you will devide the weight of your coin by the weight it registered in the water. The number you get write it down, then look it up and it will tell you what material you have and the purity of your gold. I think pure 24k gold is 19.32 but the coin you have is 22k so the number should be slightly different. Hope this helps.
@bc_usa Жыл бұрын
You mean your not 100% sure?
@user-dk1rr6lk7kАй бұрын
That is exactly why I bought me a SIGMA PRO METALLICS MACHINE FOR TESTING GOLD & SILVER; BUY 1 OZ. OF FAKE 🥸 GOLD LOOSE THAT MONEY; YOU BE GLAD YOU HAVE THAT MACHINE!!
@LuckyVagabond27 күн бұрын
Yup! I ended up going to a coin shop to verify this coin and they used a Sigma machine.
@genogarozzo8724 жыл бұрын
Did this end up being real? I have the same coin and everybody says if the coin does not weigh 33.9 it is counterfeit because "the government just doesn't mess these things up" my coin also weighs 34.05 so I was wondering???
@LuckyVagabond4 жыл бұрын
Hello, sorry, but I haven't had a chance to go to my local coin dealer to have it tested. I'll post once I get it tested. Thanks.
@genogarozzo8724 жыл бұрын
@@LuckyVagabond The local coin guy accepted it as authentic
@marcbee12344 жыл бұрын
@@genogarozzo872 Did he charge a fee for test?
@silverwiskers73713 жыл бұрын
its because its supposed to weigh heavy because its 22k, it has exactly 1/2oz gold and added silver and copper for hardness, its actually the best gold coins to buy because of this
@americanfortruth6 ай бұрын
I don't like AGE'S because everything else is 9999, I'm going to get mine checked because it's an alloy and they can appear slightly different. Most I have was bought in 2003, hopefully counterfeiting wasn't as common due to the price then. The mint should make them pure or just do buffalo's.
@LuckyVagabond6 ай бұрын
I kinda like that they are unique within the market.
@arbitrader8932 жыл бұрын
You can tell by the face of lady liberty that it is 100% real. All the fakes have a skeleton look on LL's face.
@flexmtb4 жыл бұрын
Do a specific gravity test.
@LuckyVagabond4 жыл бұрын
Can I do that with water?
@flexmtb4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@texanbalaban67774 жыл бұрын
@@LuckyVagabond distilled water in a plastic cup with dental floss. Closest I'm getting on a 1/2 oz AGE I just purchased is 17.55, 17.77 is the goal for all AGEs
@dabskivape6432 Жыл бұрын
What did that spot turn out to be? Strike through error, or?
@LuckyVagabond2 ай бұрын
The coin is real and it turned out to be a speck of copper.
@chuck...2 жыл бұрын
High purity gold has red spots
@WoeBringer11954 жыл бұрын
The red or brown spot is fine. No worries what so ever. 👍
@LuckyVagabond4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. I had the coin tested on a Sigma machine at a coin shop and it tested out as authentic.
@silversurfer99244 жыл бұрын
It's fake, worthless but I'll take it off your hands for $100. 😁
@LuckyVagabond4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha!
@bettyu23 жыл бұрын
So the weight it doesn't have to be exactly 33,92?... Mine is 34, 02 bought in a fiscal shop in the center of Milan.. But I was wondering about that range of mm... The other aspects are very good, too as ur coin very define lines
@LuckyVagabond3 жыл бұрын
That sounds a little heavy to me, but if the dimensions match, then it's probably real. It could also just be the scale.
@stanbewick2685 Жыл бұрын
You can see the strike detail is excellent. It's real.
@LuckyVagabond Жыл бұрын
Thanks. The copper specks really threw me off.
@stanbewick2685 Жыл бұрын
@@LuckyVagabond enjoy your treasure. Thanks for confirming.
@silverhorder19694 жыл бұрын
If it is real which I think it is then that year carries a hefty premium because of the year. I have many gold eagles from 2 different companies. Most came from APMEX and the weight & size does very ever so slightly on those cheap scales.
@LuckyVagabond4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great comment. Looks like APMEX is selling the 1986 gold eagle at about $75 over spot. I'm tempted to sell it, since I bought it many years ago for much less.
@silverhorder19694 жыл бұрын
I would have guessed it would sell for more.
@curtisrandolph18872 жыл бұрын
@@LuckyVagabond To tell if the price is better than when you first purchased it some commodity comparison is a good rough indicator.What would the coin be able to purchase 15 years ago compared to what it could purchase when you sell it.
@paulaxton723 жыл бұрын
Copper spots are common
@milkspotscausemetospazzout68132 жыл бұрын
Is the coin worth more since the date is written in Roman numerals?
@blackghost17342 жыл бұрын
Those years are worth more, yes.
@blackghost17342 жыл бұрын
Because of lower mintage, yes
@armchairobserver47477 ай бұрын
The star at 9 O'clock is a little out of alignment. I'd say on that alone, probably fake
@LuckyVagabond5 ай бұрын
I had it tested at a coin shop and it's real! 😁
@mikewhitaker23065 жыл бұрын
They are only 91% gold think 6% copper and 2% silver something like that
@LuckyVagabond5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment Mike.
@oahuhawaii21413 жыл бұрын
The American Eagle gold coin spec says 22K, meaning 22/24 or 11/12 fineness (0.916666...). The rest, 1/12 (0.083333...), is silver (0.03) and copper (0.053333...). Since the alloy in the coin is 11/12 gold, the US Mint uses planchets that each weighs 12/11 troy ounce (1.0909 ozt, 33.9310656 g) to ensure there's at least 1 ozt of gold in it. Smaller AE Au coins scale down accordingly (1/2, 1/4, 1/10). Similarly, AE platinum coins are 0.9995 fine, so the Mint takes the reciprocal to ensure it has 1 ozt of Pt: 1/0.9995 ozt is about 1.0005 ozt or 31.1190 g. Again, smaller Pt denominations are scaled down accordingly. The AE palladium is adjusted in the same manner.
@ptaeiy4 жыл бұрын
What I'm always curious abt is there really 1 troy ounce of gold in there.
@LuckyVagabond4 жыл бұрын
You mean because of the copper mixture?
@ptaeiy4 жыл бұрын
@@LuckyVagabond Haha just a tongue in cheek musing. I'd guess that the extra weight is copper, rather than gold.
@LuckyVagabond4 жыл бұрын
Paranoid owner here. Lol!
@christoffer4862 Жыл бұрын
That's not an Eagle coin. It's a 50 Dollar coin. It says it inscribed
@LuckyVagabond2 ай бұрын
Isn't that the same thing?
@christoffer48622 ай бұрын
@@LuckyVagabond Sorry. Could be that I am from Sweden and we have two different currency denominations: Swedish Krona and Swedish Öre. Here they are unrelated to each other, only that Öre are subunits of the Krona. Today 1 Krona = 100 Öre, however this has NOT always been the case, e.g. pre 1855 when we had the old Krona then called the Swedish coined Reich Dollar, identically valued to the current Krona. Öre was removed from cash circulation in 2010 and are now only used for electronic denominations.
@joecohen73344 жыл бұрын
Take the coin to a large dealer. See if they offer you market rate. I have a coin I suspected for years. I took it to 2 dealers. They both offered me 80% of the spot price, leading me to believe its legit. Oh, and dump that scale.
@LuckyVagabond4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice. What's wrong with my scale?
@joecohen73344 жыл бұрын
@@LuckyVagabond From what I can remember the tolerance on an 1986 double eagle (and later) is .04 grams, usually to the high side. Add in your scale of .01 grams and it should max out at 33.93 +04+.01=33.98. I saw your scale give 3 different readings for the coin. I subscribed to you as Im interested to see what it weighs at a shop and what they offer you.
@oahuhawaii21413 жыл бұрын
After each tare, your coin weight varied. And when you removed the coin, the unweighted scale showed -0.04 g twice. The scale is out of calibration, and is likely defective.
@yauchanlim21034 жыл бұрын
try burn the copper spot using cigar lighter ... it should go away.... it will not affect "gold" coin so you get to test your gold too :)
@LuckyVagabond4 жыл бұрын
Not sure I have the huevos to do that. Lol.
@milkspotscausemetospazzout68132 жыл бұрын
Taht spot is normal.That spot actually proves its real gold
@nemometalshell45345 жыл бұрын
Hi there. Can't confirm is this a real coin or not since I am not an expert and I never had 1oz American Eagle (I have 1/10oz American Eagle only). But I can tell something about those red spots. I have Archangel Michael series gold coins (1/10oz, Ukraine) and all of them have red spots more or less. As far as I know when the stamp hits a billet during production process stamp may leave its microparts in the upper layers of the actual billet (future coin). Those microparts may start oxidize later on causing red spots which is rust basically. As long as you have real 31.1 grams of gold in that coin you should not worry about it since gold cannot oxidize itself. But if you would like to get rid of that spot you may try Leuchtturm cleaning agent for gold coins (they have same agents for silver, copper and others). I had some experience with cleaning a couple of silver coins and it worked fine, so I will try to do the same for my gold coins in future. P. S. Awesome coin though, I wish I could have one of these (1oz) in future.
@LuckyVagabond5 жыл бұрын
Hey Nemo, that's for the great comment. I'm just going to leave the coin as is. I should take it to a professional to be appraised and make sure it's 100% legit.
@stevenhigby3512 Жыл бұрын
The coin is a fake. It lacks detail on lady liberty, and on the eagles on the reverse.
@LuckyVagabond2 ай бұрын
I hope not. I took it to a coin shop and they said it's real. Tested it with a gold tester and tested as real.
@ramih23142 жыл бұрын
Really and beautiful.
@SCzxjk4 жыл бұрын
Yes I would of thought it was real,it's not too yellow and the detail of the woman is very good.helpful video thanks. time to cash in "its the end of the world as we know it"😷😎
@LuckyVagabond4 жыл бұрын
In normal times, I would cash it in, but the US dollar is about to take a nose dive. Better to stay invested in precious metals.
@LuckyVagabond4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great comments.
@SCzxjk4 жыл бұрын
@@LuckyVagabond yes I read that gold could teach $2800+ by the end of the year.here in Ireland gypsy/travellers have kept gold for centuries they usually sell it to young people starting out,recycling wealth😉
@mmastide96134 жыл бұрын
It's just the copper
@LuckyVagabond4 жыл бұрын
That's what I found out at the coin shop. Thanks!
@jemarkcorpin21753 жыл бұрын
I had one how much if i sell it
@LuckyVagabond3 жыл бұрын
About $1850 right now.
@goldeneye702 жыл бұрын
You can tell it's fake immediately because it's so dull looking
@Mr.AnthonyRamos00 Жыл бұрын
Not fake I have the same one
@LuckyVagabond Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@CoinsAndCapsaicin4 жыл бұрын
I'd find a coin shop and have them sigma test it. I think its counterfeit just based on the devices visible. Edit: I've watched this again and changed my mind. I believe it's real. Also, the spotting is happening for the reason you thought. Copper alloy toning.
@LuckyVagabond4 жыл бұрын
I'm going to do that. Too many saying it's fake.
@joshuajames24254 жыл бұрын
Nah its real too close to specs you can't match golds density if it was a fake somewhere the specs would be way off,diameter weight or thickness 1 of those would substantially different
@julieolson92285 жыл бұрын
I think it real cas the detail is perfect
@LuckyVagabond5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. I think you're right. It's more than likely real.
@goldeneye702 жыл бұрын
Horrible fake, no pinwheel light retracting off of it. It looks literally like a dead coin. No shimmer, flat color, weak counterfeit
@katiekrohse52403 жыл бұрын
So real
@budscott12577 ай бұрын
It’s a fake but I’ll give you 50 dollars for it
@LuckyVagabond5 ай бұрын
Hahahaha! Very funny 😁
@budscott12575 ай бұрын
@@LuckyVagabond You can’t blame a man for trying. 🤣😇
@carlmarshall47033 жыл бұрын
It's definitely fake I'll buy it off for you I'll give you a $100 for it Lol just kidding
@juddbrady18253 жыл бұрын
It’s a bogey just wipe it off with a tissue
@evolve-letsgo8922 жыл бұрын
🤪
@jwoolf554 жыл бұрын
flick it with your finger and if it rings like a bell its real
@KirksCORNER5 жыл бұрын
If you want ill give you few hundred for it :)
@LuckyVagabond5 жыл бұрын
Haha, nah, I'm going to hold on to it. Thanks for the comment.
@donaldbozek85056 ай бұрын
Looks flat. I wouldn’t purchase it.
@LuckyVagabond6 ай бұрын
It turned out to be real.
@virtuosojames5 жыл бұрын
Ping test?
@LuckyVagabond5 жыл бұрын
Good question. Not sure the best way to perform a ping test and whether I know enough to know if it passes the ping test. What's your advice? Thanks.
@virtuosojames5 жыл бұрын
Plenty of examples here on KZfaq, but just curl your index finger like you are grabbing a handle and rest the middle of the coin in question on the center buckle portion. Then use a different coin to tap the edge gently so that it makes a tone. Compare that tone to other gold coin that you know are real.
@LuckyVagabond5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'll give it a try.
@williamdieffenbach32645 жыл бұрын
@@LuckyVagabond on your cell phone get an app called, "Bullion Test." You will have to pay about $3 for the upgrade to test American Gold Eagles and others. The ping of the metal will be verified through the app, I have tested it on the American Gold Eagle, American Silver Eagle, and it worked. Even worked against other silver coins of the same dimension as the American Silver Eagle. Thank you.
@rdk162 Жыл бұрын
fake
@LuckyVagabondАй бұрын
It turned out to be real. Tested at a local coin shop.
@owlpoodle3554 жыл бұрын
It's too flat, fake.
@LuckyVagabond4 жыл бұрын
Too many people saying this is fake. I'm going to go get it tested next week.
@owlpoodle3554 жыл бұрын
@@LuckyVagabond Good luck! Let us know the results.
@Saint696Anger2 жыл бұрын
@@LuckyVagabond is it fake?
@miguelbozo391310 ай бұрын
Buddy! Send it to me and I will let you know! In oh! Maybe 20 years!
@LuckyVagabond10 ай бұрын
Hahaha 😆
@Birdy-by9cg Жыл бұрын
There's an easiest way to do the ping test OK22 care gold if it's real I'll ring your clock for a minute and a 1/2 straight you'll be hearing pink forever if it's fake it's dull the sound dies out within a couple seconds do the ping test!!