IS IT ILLEGAL TO HAVE MODIFIED EXHAUSTS & POP & BANG MAPS?

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IS IT ILLEGAL TO HAVE MODIFIED EXHAUSTS & POP & BANG MAPS?

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With modified exhausts being a very popular modification here in the U.K, doing so or having one exposes a list of complicated rules and regulations that can be very hard to understand!
From pop & bang maps, sports cats, decats all the way to a simlpe loud exhaust system, police officer MPS OWEN MESSENGER helps explain all with some very helpful input from the team at Milltek Sport and a very special guest.
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@user-fd8rc2jr6e 3 ай бұрын

Saying lamborghini is allowed to be loud because its a low volume manufacturer isnt a valid excuse, its still one rule for the rich and another rule for the poor

@spg993 3 ай бұрын

100% the road tax for a lamborghini is almost the same as a Subaru. A V10 compared to a 2.5L.

@ethanosullivan4649 3 ай бұрын

It's nothing to do with them being a low volume manufacturer the reason they can be loud is because they come out the factory as loud

@terrybrown6057 3 ай бұрын

Low volume cars still have to be type approved (homologated). Lower volume cars such as a one off custom made car goes through IVA test. This test still has the same noise restrictions as type approval. BUT You can have a noisier exhaust based on the age of the car. So if your car is running an exhaust that was legal back in the day, it's still legal now. Your not forced to remove what is legal from new. I have a bike engine car revving to 13,000rpm.. The system has one exhaust can running along the side of the car. IVA approved. Manufacturer supplied silencer. It doesn't need or have an ID tag welded on. That's just how they were made. Government approved. So your video is incorrect Teddy bear.

@jj_sutton 3 ай бұрын

Lamborghini is owned by Volkswagen Group, so I refuse to believe that Lamborghini are a 'low volume manufacturer'... 90% of the parts on a Lamborghini are VWAG/Audi parts. Like mentioned above, money talks in this situation, the more money you have the better you get around things.

@vadwvea7153 3 ай бұрын

@@spg993As it should be

@-sargntclashroyaleandmore-491 3 ай бұрын

How about laws to stop our roads from getting to a horrible state... we're expected to drive cars that go through a strict test but drive on craters

@Strider9655 3 ай бұрын

The law of exhaust systems had to change, because of the idiots with the shotgun remaps. I've got a kitcar, the exhaust is original factory fit in 1995, it'll do 120db at full chat and running twin weber carbs it pops and bangs on the over run and spits fire at the rev limiter, I can't do most track days as it's now too loud for the idiots who like to buy houses next to race tracks........ Why? because idiots in small shopping trolleys who mod their cars to sound like something it's not.

@ChrisKronk117 2 ай бұрын

@@Strider9655I can understand your frustration but the reality of it is those with the 'shopping carts' can often take as much pride in those as you with your kit car.

@Strider9655 2 ай бұрын

@@ChrisKronk117 Well not so much, they're not car enthusiasts, my generation were car enthusiasts, these guys are just buying a badge on finance and handing money over the counter for someone to defile their ECU to make it sound like something it's not.

@ChrisKronk117 2 ай бұрын

@@Strider9655 Gatekeeping at it's finest. Nice.

@adamskiboz6291 2 ай бұрын

@@Strider9655 The problem is how much it costs for you to get a nice car. The reason young people mod these low power cars is because it would cost an arm and a leg to own and insure anything nice. Im a massive car enthusiast but I have a 2007 yaris because I cant afford anything nicer. If I could then I would get something better and mod that. And as for the people financing cars, similar reason. They want something fast and dont have the money to buy it outright so get it financed. And enthusiast literally means "a person who is very interested in a particular activity or subject." so if they want to mod the ECU and de badge it whatever and it brings them joy doing so then I would say they are

@DetectiveDeuche 3 ай бұрын

I'm sorry but can we just fuck off with this? we have rampant drug use, knife crime and countless other crimes in the uk but god forbid we can't have an exhaust.

@AndyRich2022 3 ай бұрын

I 100% agree with you this is why I will never trust the police and its why I'd never trust the government thay play with to much in our life's it's about time it's stops I'm so sick of you have to do this you have to do that it's not a government it's a dictatorship bring back the real UK not this pathetic waste of shit UK

@tom_trs_clarke3641 3 ай бұрын

Can’t make money from drugs and knife crime though can you. Issue a section 59 or DVSA order within 2-3 working days very easily…..

@jakubprzybytkowski705 3 ай бұрын

Yeah... You're 100% right! Many dangerous around the streets and nothing serious happening to stop them... But the exhoust is more interesting for piggies...

@grantufouniquefilmingopera5301 3 ай бұрын

Easier to take off taxpayers I pay £600+ road tax for one of my vehicles and still hit 20+ potholes in the road every time I take my car out it’s a fooking joke to busy telling you by the side of the road your cars to loud while ppl are getting stabbed robbed etc rant over

@Fordfocusstmk3250 3 ай бұрын

Facts

@CarFocused 3 ай бұрын

There’s literally no point in fitting a new car with a legal aftermarket exhaust system as they sound shit, and barely any louder than standard. They’ve killed the performance car scene as we know it, and won’t be happy until we’re all driving around in air fryers that do 0-60 in 1 second and have a huge screen with a gazillion distractions. Makes sense!🤦🏼‍♂️

@Noddyunplugged 3 ай бұрын

AND all of this legislation they’re introducing, and new hoops they’re forcing manufacturers to jump through this driving up the costs; it costs the manufacturers more so they in turn, have to pass it on to the customer. Which then surely must cost them sales in the long run.

@snu666 3 ай бұрын

Audi RS is laughing at you.

@CarFocused 3 ай бұрын

@@snu666 they sound mute now compared to the pre GPF cars. A 2018 pre GPF TTRS with sports exhaust sounded insane compared to what they dish out now.

@therealtruth8386 3 ай бұрын

Everything in the UK is controlled for money

@mgcharoudin 3 ай бұрын

Look mom, I am pretending I know sht!🤣

@GCMYT 3 ай бұрын

Thanks to the ring king for your input brother. Always valuable!

@CarsandCraic 3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@YungLimox 3 ай бұрын

The man himself 🙌

@DanS360 3 ай бұрын

Nothing more hilarious than a 1.0 Fiesta ST Line with a pop bang map…😂😂

@Stonecrow99 3 ай бұрын

think it depends on the exhaust too, as ive seen some really nice sounding zetec S's/ST lines, but they keep the pops/bangs to a subtle level

@Know3ody 3 ай бұрын

Much rather a smooth growl over that shite 😂

@pointblank6 2 ай бұрын

@@Stonecrow99 Just no.

@neilbradley5011 2 ай бұрын

or a Polo

@user-ho7jj5zq2w Ай бұрын

Or a large rear wing.

@ryan976david 3 ай бұрын

“This is a full on decat, it won’t pass an MOT”. £50 in the ashtray says otherwise. Just wish government departments and the police put as much effort into real crimes instead of imposing more taxes on motorists, cause that’s all this shite is.

@miyssum 2 ай бұрын

A cat unit protects everyone including yourself. It makes absolute sense to go after people that do it

@ryan976david 2 ай бұрын

@@miyssum bet you’re fun at parties, if you ever get invited to them that is.

@miyssum 2 ай бұрын

@@ryan976david the parties I get invited to have people that have their priorities straight, care about their own health and the health of others as well as the law

@swoogles4093 10 күн бұрын

@@miyssum sounds really boring

@AlmostLastJedi 3 ай бұрын

I find it funny how mods like a de-cat or a DPF delete is illegal, yet if it passes the MOTs emissions checks. Surely that means the emissions are safe? If not, you’re saying the mot is not fit for purpose, yet we’re mandated to have it? 🤔

@ruselltribe4725 3 ай бұрын

Thats the uk, screw us over anyway possible

@hardcoretam 3 ай бұрын

The emissions tests during MOT's are very basic compared to the emission testing during the type approval process

@peteroffen137 3 ай бұрын

We not allowed sport cat but he said he got sports cat on that car witch is used on the road one rule for one and another for us

@hardcoretam 3 ай бұрын

@@peteroffen137 He said you aren't allowed certain sport cats. Some you are.

@peteroffen137 3 ай бұрын

I'm sure he said sports cats only for track use

@MrRickyjenkins 3 ай бұрын

Give it a fucking rest This country is getting so fucking boring with all these rules and regulations we can’t do anything to the vehicles we own anymore, it’s about time the police start focussing on more troubling matters like knife crime and drug use not on us with just wanting to enjoy our hard earned money.

@exoticxenon5005 3 ай бұрын

Exactly I’m sure that pop and bang fiesta is annoying but when my house was broken into and fiancé assaulted I found that way more annoying and yet they know who done it and haven’t done anything about it probably cause they can’t give them a fine for it

@8skellerns 3 ай бұрын

You can do what you like to your car, as long as you dont interfere with the exhaust or emissions kit!

@YungLimox 3 ай бұрын

@@8skellernsafter you spend minimum 2k more on insurance

@8skellerns 3 ай бұрын

@@YungLimox Your saying exhaust mods arent declared??

@YungLimox Ай бұрын

@@8skellerns I’m saying once you declare mods you better have deep pockets because this countries insurance policies are nothing short of a scam

@Glories999 3 ай бұрын

If it's fun, sounds or looks good, it's illegal

@PaulSmith-pr7pv 2 ай бұрын

Phew, wife is legal then

@arshiaabbasi4920 3 ай бұрын

Cop: Pop and bang is illegal and will destroy your pistons Cop revs: Pop and bang 💥💥💀

@scotwilson4169 3 ай бұрын

Comes from factory like that so its fine, like he said

@Narthalion 3 ай бұрын

@@scotwilson4169 Focus RS don't come with pop & bang. Standard exhausts don't pop & bang

@haks_123 3 ай бұрын

@@scotwilson4169so it coming from factory makes it safer for the engine?? Unless they’re playing the bangs from the speakers or loading fireworks in the exhaust I don’t get how getting aftermarket pops and bangs from a credited tuner makes it any less safe

@snu666 3 ай бұрын

@@NarthalionPops and bangs are not caused by the exhaust. 🤡

@joshmalley710 3 ай бұрын

@@Narthalion the mk3 absolutely does pop and bang from standard

@benhorne9948 3 ай бұрын

The plod in the video literally explains the legislation that states you cannot fit an aftermarket exhaust that is louder than the O. E system and then fits an aftermarket exhaust that is blatently louder on the RS meat wagon? WTF.

@richardhurr31 3 ай бұрын

Yeah that was definitely louder than the factory exhaust 😂

@swifty2844 Ай бұрын

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that

@vintage5532 3 ай бұрын

I'm a bit confused about exhaust systems needing to be "EC approved," but to be "EC approved," you need to be in the EU, which we're not. Secondly, how can there be exhaust companies that are allowed to advertise hand making bespoke exhaust systems with their multiple years experience in the industry if it's illegal to not be EC approved? If this is the case, then surely authorities should do more to stop people from being duped into buying illegal items?

@M140i23 3 ай бұрын

I think it’s if you’re driving over to Europe but if you’re staying in the UK it doesn’t need to be e marked

@Simb-l 3 ай бұрын

The uk are adopting the exact same type rating and changing the name they just haven’t done it yet.

@vintage5532 3 ай бұрын

@@Simb-l frustrating for the people who have paid for a new exhaust and have to pay for another one.

@greghobson323 3 ай бұрын

My exhaust is eBay approved built at home with stainless steel straight lengths and a pipe bender. 😂

@vintage5532 3 ай бұрын

@greghobson323 haha I won't even say how mine looks

@Interceptor3500 2 ай бұрын

Go and catch some criminals!

@RonaldShakespeare-tk7jx 3 ай бұрын

Add Rice Krispies in the petrol and diesel and you should be able to snap crackle and pop legally

@muhammadislam0000 2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@philipsharpe6913 2 ай бұрын

I can't understand why people want their cars to sound like a 70s old banger

@TheGazza636 3 ай бұрын

The pop and bang is a fucking menace its needs got rid of

@BySixa 3 ай бұрын

The logic outlined in the video is incredibly flawed. Lets imagine a scenario where I have to replace my exhaust for example because of corrosion. If the OEM part is discontinued and no manufacturer makes a pre approved, ECE compliant replacement, then it is physically impossible to ever have a legal car. Rediculous law. By extension, this also dictates that every single exhaust shop in the country that does not use off-the-shelf items, illegal.

@xabre9995 3 ай бұрын

It's not illegal to fit or sell an aftermarket non-compliant exhaust to your car. It's illegal to use them on the road.

@BySixa 3 ай бұрын

@xabre9995 it doesn't negate the fact that if I can't replace my part with OEM or a compliant exhaust that there's no feasible way for me to abide by the law.

@xabre9995 3 ай бұрын

You're arguing a hypothetical as a fact.

@xabre9995 3 ай бұрын

Hypothetically you could find yourself with a vehicle that spare parts become hard to source. You are not however being forced to use that vehicle illegally. That is a choice you are making.

@BySixa 3 ай бұрын

@xabre9995 I'm not disputing the legality, I'm calling the laws flawed. What sort of totalitarian state do we live in where we cannot even drive a perfectly safe car that we own because we cannot source a compliant exhaust system

@ianlainchbury 3 ай бұрын

Pop and bang sounds so sh1te.

@lancebarker9825 3 ай бұрын

Sounds mint apart from the pop and bang

@richardbrown8271 3 ай бұрын

Sergeant dibble 😂

@daleevans9029 3 ай бұрын

Why do people want to live in silence. Cars are like music. The uk needs to stop all this bollocks. Why do we just let them give themselves the power to make up any law they want to fuck us over, and everyone just keeps listening and following like sheep and letting this whole country go down the shitter. Especially the car industry. Motortrade is getting worse because of all this emmisions bullshit. 95 percent of the time your car goes wrong it is to do with emmisions controling crap. Without egr and dpf engines go for nillions of miles when oil is changed regular. Even without regular oil changes would still go further than a fully serviced euro 6 car with all that crap.

@JustAnotherDayInEngland Ай бұрын

Cars are like music...yeah, when it's Ford GT and Porsche 917 around a race track. Meanwhile back in the real world with the grown up adults, we have jobs to work and don't need the uneducated criminal underclass racing around in their terrible terrible terrible cars. Meaning don't you get embarrassed? Having a 800db exhaust on a 90hp fiesta at the traffic lights and then an actual 911 that's 100x faster than you pulls up 😂

@urbanfrit 3 ай бұрын

E Mark plates for sale. Stainless Chinesium. Heat resistant glue included. Hit me up 🤣

@DetectiveDeuche 3 ай бұрын

Im surprised there isn't any already.

@robmoto8210 3 ай бұрын

Pops and bangs are the result of unignihted fuel in the exhaust that catches fire. Not in the sylinder. Btw they wouldn’t make an engine that isn’t supposed to withstand high pressure and explosions.

@davideyres955 3 ай бұрын

They were an invention from rallying where you deliberately sent unburnt fuel into the exhaust to ignite so that the turbo spun up. I believe they also used the spark to ignite the mixture in the exhaust cycle on a gear change. But you never get anything for free. Motor manufacturers put a hell of a lot of work into making cars reliable and a lot of these aftermarket mods actually make cars slower or remove built in safety features which are there for longevity.

@stevenfoleyuk9404 3 ай бұрын

What ever happened to being free ?

@matthewnicholas6365 2 ай бұрын

People abused the privilege. And cats are a good thing. Cars without them stink and sound w**k. Pops and bangs are absolutely horrendous. And I'm a petrol head and performance car enthusiast.

@stevenfoleyuk9404 2 ай бұрын

@@matthewnicholas6365 minority might abuse their freedom . Punnish the guilty not the innocent

@SizzleCSG 3 ай бұрын

Who’s got a EC stamp 🤣 fuck these dossers that focus he’s driving definitely ain’t stock the wasser

@Jimthetyreman 3 ай бұрын

Honest question. Why do we have to have EC approved systems, if following Brexit, we are no longer an EU country?

@rb-1236 3 ай бұрын

Because, unsurprisingly, to completely overhaul every single piece of EU legislation that we follow in the UK, post-Brexit, would cost an insane amount of time and money. Just because we left the EU doesn’t mean that we have to re-write the entire constitution. Far easier and cheaper for politicians to cherry pick the issues they think will get them re-elected if they carry the flag for.

@catfrab 2 ай бұрын

@rb-1236 or more simply, we adopted all the EU standards on leaving the EU to avoid rewriting everything from scratch in a few weeks!

@montycross397 3 ай бұрын

I think its great to educate everyone on this topic with this video, but there are a few things that dont make a lot of sense. You have a segment talking about how pop and bang tunes can cause detonation, and how that ruins engines. However, the RS has been tuned to have bop and bangs, as you would definately give it a new tune after fitting a fully different downpipe/cat/exhaust given its a turbo car. Whats the point of saying dont get a pop and bang tune, and then getting one yourself? Also, when mentioning the seat with detonation related engine wear, i dont think you can just say its due to the pop and bang tune, i would argue its most likely the tune as a whole not being suitable to prevent knock, in part due to elevated temperatures. But you can’t look at detonation on an engine and say ahhh yes thats because of a pop and bang tune.

@filmboy18 3 ай бұрын

The Leon story was such bullsh**. I have a cupra 300 and they pop and bang from the factory fairly loud even with the stock exhaust system on. They sound mental with an aftermarket exhaust even without a pop and bang remap. Pop and bangs don't cause any damage at all so long as the tuner isn't going crazy and turning off engine protections in the ecu.

@colinhall8998 2 ай бұрын

Funny, call the police about a noise complaint and they say contact the council. If there’s money to be had with a fine they’ll prosecute!

@jamestinson9069 Ай бұрын

Hope you notified your insurance about your exhaust upgrades before driving away 😂

@Vic13thRacing 3 ай бұрын

The precedent set as a result of this is frankly frightening. The vast majority of factory exhaust systems fitted to cars of all types and pricepoints do *not* have EC markings on them and this includes the catalysts fitted to them. The vast majority of police officers are not clued up on cars. The DVSA have effectively put the power to prosecute and profiteer off the motorist entirely into their domain and manipulated it in such a way that if you are in breach or in compliance to the precedents they themselves have set is entirely within the purview of themselves or a *very* fallable(and proven biased) human being wearing a uniform and badge. I understand the purpose of this video is to inform, not endorse but I echo the sentiments of every other commenter here suggesting this is a massive over-reach. Legal ramifications aside we used to be a nation of engineering prowess and innovation. No shed built company is going to build up the scratch to pass EC approval without first selling units. How in the world is someone supposed to get their foot in the door?! Are we building a monopoly here or are we building cars?!

@silverstreak2006 3 ай бұрын

Because they don’t want that. We have to be controlled. No car, no property (owned), C40 living environment….this is nothing when you look into the bigger picture(s).

@gj3281 2 ай бұрын

They’re type approved by default out of the factory. The car has to be to be sold…

@Vic13thRacing 2 ай бұрын

@gj3281 An officer at the side of the road won't know and often won't fact check if a system has been type approved lol They look for markings on the components, sometimes not even that

@edfitz21 3 ай бұрын

It's like a pub landlord getting done for allowing someone to drink then drive

@DjDolHaus86 Ай бұрын

You can actually get done for serving a drunk person booze

@edfitz21 Ай бұрын

@@DjDolHaus86 not in Ireland ya can't 🥴🤣

@DjDolHaus86 Ай бұрын

@@edfitz21 I've not heard of it being enforced in England either to be fair

@JMixesMusic 3 ай бұрын

what make you think im pulling over in a stage 2 remap

@ruselltribe4725 3 ай бұрын

Pop and bang maps just scream small pen15 syndrome 😂

@Draxindustries1 3 ай бұрын

Should instead be called ' look at me remaps'....

@shuddafukkup 2 ай бұрын

Do you prefer your lads to have whoppers then?

@Alexperrin98 3 ай бұрын

They might as well say modifying a car is illegal what a joke 🙄

@QuickieFastFast 3 ай бұрын

Even if your car passes an Emissions test genuinely, you still have to pay a charge to go through ULEZ?

@simsnqta 3 ай бұрын

Yes. Got £90 fine for missing the signs. 😂

@mikeymccollum9928 3 ай бұрын

Well obviously decats are illegal.... Do I have decats? Yes. Am I keeping them? Also yes 😂

@BauregardSenior87 2 ай бұрын

I lived in America for a half a decade and cats where not required in that state, yet some modified cars still had them so that that the exhaust wouldn't sting noses or smell funky. It's something like 3% of all cars had their cats removed, some percentage got stolen and never replaced and everyone else, the 'normies' if the mechanic tells them they need a new cat, they just get it done and keep the car factory. Almost as if we don't need mandatory cat converters at all because most people will never take them off and those that do are such a small percentage that they're not going to turn cities into eye burning hydrocarbon fog clouds.

@jackgibb16 2 ай бұрын

Theres absolutely no way that police focus RS isn’t louder than a factory one.

@matthewtrott7236 3 ай бұрын

So a mot is a load of crap on emissions, so why do you bother?

@catfrab 2 ай бұрын

What about pre-EC cars? Cars manufactured prior to the existence of the EC/EU. Obviously, none of the original parts are E marked so what rules apply in that case?

@AngelDjay 2 ай бұрын

About 14 years a go we rebuilt a 3rd gen 1991 chevy camaro, tried to get original steel exhaust couldnt get one even in America, only a thing caled a magna flow available. We decided it was to loud so we fitted an extra silencer at the front y pipe which brought it to exceptable level, the fuel system was to high on emissions for the UK so webber built a carb for the engine which brought the car well under the UK emissions level. I asked the mot center about this new law when I took it for its mot in febuary they said it is for modified cars your car is still standard. The magna flow is just a stainless steel version of the original exhaust as for the webber it runs a lot smoother but it lost a lot of power from the holley but it got the emissions spot on.

@benjohnson656 2 ай бұрын

Loud exhausts save lives

@wastelander6341 3 ай бұрын

Ok ok so yeah I get it. However I just have one question? Why? Why does it matter what we have fitted to OUR cars. Is it just another thing that helps the police generate money? Is it just another thing that puts another person in a job. Like it makes no sense. Can't this extra police officer actually do a constructive job like stop a crime or contribute to another case. Having a louder than factory exhaust isn't the end of the world is it. I do think the laws need to change about this because its just not necessary to stop this type of thing.

@richardhurr31 3 ай бұрын

I put a Scorpion cat back exhaust on my MK3 Leon Cupra and it popped and banged like crazy, still on the factory map lol. Can turn it off putting it into comfort mode. Don't think it'll destroy my engine though! Later had my car remapped by one of the top VAG specialists in the country and I asked him about overrun maps and whether they damage anything and he said "no, people who say that don't know anything about engines". If you've ever watched the Officially Gassed channel you might know who I'm talking about.

@filmboy18 3 ай бұрын

Yeah the cupra story is just scaremongering. Unfortunately people like me know otherwise, so long as your not going mental turning off engine protections you'll be okay with a fairly aggressive pop and bang remap.

@shamar8529 2 ай бұрын

@@filmboy18 Why would you want an aggressive pop and bang map? The standard overrun is sufficient. No girl is going to drop their pants for you bro

@filmboy18 2 ай бұрын

@shamar8529 I personally don't want an aggressive pop and bang remap, it sounds stupid. The oem one that comes on the cupra from factory is more than enough and actually sounds tasteful.

@richardhurr31 2 ай бұрын

@@filmboy18 but on a non-GPF car it'll pop and bang like crazy on the factory map just changing exhaust or getting a res delete lol.

@swifty2844 Ай бұрын

Sorry but there is no way in hell that exhaust is the same volume as the standard car 😂😂😂😂😂

@QuickieFastFast 3 ай бұрын

Chuffed with the low volume manufacturer rule, only 57 GTR's were made and sold in 2022

@felixokeefe 3 ай бұрын

Pop and bang maps should be illegal. It just so utterly pointless! Not to mention annoying.

@richday5520 3 ай бұрын

Learn something new everyday I didn't know only certain sports cats were legal. Guess I'm your target audience with this 😂

@GCMYT 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching brother. Everyday is a school day!

@autodigitvlogs 3 ай бұрын

They dont want you driving or owning nothing. Noise cameras and ULEZ. Yet a Porsche 911 idles at over 80db and pops via factory map. Some cars do pop naturally from factory. But the excess popping and banging is and should be illegal. In UK you can get traffic cops looking under the bonnet. 😂...

@_ph4nt0mzz_47 2 ай бұрын

Mate, I totally get what you're saying, but what Porsche 911 idles at 80dB+?? These newer gen 992s are being ridiculed for sounding about as loud a vacuum cleaner, even at full chat. How are they possibly idling that loud?

@stevenbusk539 3 ай бұрын

Aftermarket exhausts should never be about sound. They should maintain the number of silencers that the OEM used or more if the system is louder than original. All an aftermarket exhaust system needs to do is have straight through low restriction to flow, and have a bore size big enough to support the power level that an engine is making.

@Revvs7 3 ай бұрын

I advise motorcycle users to fit loud exhausts on their bikes as it's much safer. So many times I've had cars cut me off because they didn't know I was there but as soon as I fitted a loud exhaust it's been easier for cars to notice me and I've never had an issue since. If the government cared about motorcycle safety they should allow louder exhausts for motorcycles.

@theoriginalwallace 2 ай бұрын

Loud pipes save lives, mate.

@Revvs7 2 ай бұрын

@@theoriginalwallace exactly brother

@japfourme381 2 ай бұрын

Absolutely!!

@duskshadowpaws4434 2 ай бұрын

couldn't have said it better myself, I fitted Black Widdow drag pipes to my XV535 and I've never looked back

@hardcoretam 3 ай бұрын

The guy talking about pop & bang maps is right about them causing engines to deterioate quicker. I had a friend with an older Skyline who had a hard cut limiter and it was same concept with dumping fuel in but eventually all the detonation cracked a valve. Some of the emissions stuff on older cars, particulary diesels is pretty silly. Example: You have an older diesel with a cat, but no DPF. Cat is clogged up, and doesn't work any more but passes the MOT as the only test is to ensure it's visually present, since it doesn't impact the diesels emissions test in any way. Same with EGR

@filmboy18 3 ай бұрын

So an over aggressive hard cut limiter did the damage then? Just think of all the cars that come from the factory today with "pop and bang" programmed into the overrun. People need to realise if you don't go crazy with the bangs on overrun it won't damage anything. It's scaremongering.

@hardcoretam 3 ай бұрын

@@filmboy18 If its overly aggressive it will damage it quickly. If it isn't it will damage it slower. No pops and bangs is better for the engine's longevity than with it.

@chriscuthbertson 3 ай бұрын

Glad my Abarth is a 'low volume manufacturer' ;)

@leighrobinson 2 ай бұрын

The RS is absolutely louder than it was originally, and even has a hint of pops as it’s obviously been retuned to match the new setup. Imagine someone who is touching cars for a living thinking that a pop and bang remap causes “detonations in the cylinder”. Like what? Absolute madness. You really ought to have drawn a distinction between performance cars like the M4, 911, RS6, et al who pop and burble on over runs from the factory and are absolutely type legal vs whatever monstrosity that backfiring flaming crapbox was supposed to be…

@Ouroboros10 3 ай бұрын

It never make sense to me, how no-cat exhausts could be legal, and why they were sold, but I hadn't gotten to researching it. Good to finally know!

@deepfiix 2 ай бұрын

Great video...can you do pot holes next? 🤣

@filmboy18 3 ай бұрын

Im sorry but pop and bang maps alone dont destroy engines... unless its extremely aggressive.

@TheWatchman1893 3 ай бұрын

pop and bang, what a ridiculas thing to ask for, hey mate, Can you make my car sound shite ?

@phoenixmotorsport647 3 ай бұрын

Interesting fact - "pops and bangs" actually came from the rally world and what is was was a device that reduced the amount of lag on turbo charged car by allowing small amounts of fuel to be burnt off throttle so there was extra exhaust gas to keep the turbo spinning longer and therefore reduce the spool up time. Rally cars had to be able to turn it off when not on a stage. Of course the boy racer brigade started copying on their 1.2 corsas and the rest is history

@filmboy18 3 ай бұрын

Anti lag is way way way more aggressive than your average pop and bang remap. With real anti lag you find yourself replacing turbos quite often because of well... the excess heat.

@phoenixmotorsport647 3 ай бұрын

@@filmboy18 I get that - I compete. Im just saying thats where the craze started. Originally it served a real person for teams that had stupid amounts of money and rebuilt the engines very frequently. Then what happened is bill in his 1.2 Nova decided he wanted to sound like that because it was "cool". And a new remap was born to annoy people the world over (and for those watching that did it to their road cars - it doesnt make you faster - just annoying)

@OllieR1des125 2 ай бұрын

What I don’t understand is how it’s the tuners fault that he drove away that’s that persons choice surely???

@hotwheelshuntinguk 2 ай бұрын

The MOT should flag everything up. The MOT should determine if a car is legal otherwise it’s totally pointless.

@ADAM-z9c 3 ай бұрын

So every single custom exhaust shop in the uk is illegal

@rb-1236 3 ай бұрын

No. The onus is on the vehicle owner to use the vehicle in an appropriate location based on your modifications. A custom shop can do absolutely anything you want, but that doesn’t mean you have to drive it on a public road.

@Kamil-yb9xz 3 ай бұрын

11:40 hmmm hold up so its louder when valve is open and quieter when shut . But no louder than stock hahahaha COPS ARE FULL OF IT 😂

@FJFxGaming 3 ай бұрын

So it's okay for people stabbing innocent passer bys, it's okay for people to steal but its not okay for us hard workers to modify our own pride and joy? This is madness

@Trevorbailey-i7s Ай бұрын

Igniting fuel in the chamber . Thats what combustion is . No extra harm comes from a pop n bang map. Bouncing it off the limiter is what causes problems

@asdatrollys8944 2 ай бұрын

So as a mechanic I can confirm that pop and bang tunes do seriously wear your engine, it’s for that reason I don’t recommend it. However as a libertarian I think that if you want to do that you should be within your rights to as it is your property. I will note to people who aren’t overly familiar with the technical aspect of cars, actual naturally occurring pops and bangs are not harmful to the engine for reasons I won’t explain at risk of over complicating it. It’s only the artificial ones that are intentionally added to make a low powered car sound more powerful.

@pajmott9945 3 ай бұрын

so are super cars legal ? bunch bull......t

@shamar8529 2 ай бұрын

Yeah but the difference is they sound good

@damienwood1414 2 ай бұрын

It will drive things more underground, do what you want. You work hard for it, fuck it

@huz7828 3 ай бұрын

I removed my egr valve which your not allowed to do but I get better mpg so sounds like they want us too spend more on fuel total scam by the government

@Benjii002 3 ай бұрын

The next gen focus st up from yours pops and bangs from factory in sport mode

@karlmansfield3537 Ай бұрын

Mad how people get stopped the loud exhaust but yet own a bike get away with it

@jamesmiller3639 3 ай бұрын

Then he pops and bangs away from the garage.

@post2memrg 2 ай бұрын

I bloody love all the comments on here after the vids.

@adampancechowski5965 23 күн бұрын

the thing is with the pop and bang maps... just run a N/A engine and don't compensate for displacement you don't have... simple.

@TechUK21 3 ай бұрын

if i want a pop and bang map and decat on my car . then i will .thank you .

@haks_123 3 ай бұрын

How the hell are the police that stop you going to check for EC approved engravings on your exhaust unless they literally jack the car up on the road or impound it which just seems very impractical

@yocarara 3 ай бұрын

Am I being special or at 6:20 the two middle exhausts the left one is “illegal” and the right one is legal yet they both are the same shape and size with the one that’s legal not being smooth so it restricts the flow but the illegal one is smooth so should allow for better exhaust flow??? If it’s something different with the cat then fair play but on the outside the illegal one looks better for the car (assuming the cat inside is the same)

@rachids3030 2 ай бұрын

Long story short yes. Everyday is risky if some Blue smurf will stop you for modified exhaust.

@schnellprosek 3 күн бұрын

If I understood correctly, if the car is legally registered in my country, according to some convention, I shouldn't have any problems with your police, but still there are more and more problems, because it is not acceptable for the car to be modified? Here I am mainly thinking of the Balkan countries, since in most of them modification is not a problem. Please answer this question.

@supersalmon2279 3 ай бұрын

My renault RS pops and bangs completely stock

@Simon-qn5wm 3 ай бұрын

What is the point of loud exhausts? I am sure its just attention seeking. Cheaper amd quieter to put a big sign on your roof saying 'hey everyone, look at me'. I hope they are banned, my Dog is terrified when one of these idiots drives past.

@ISOSAILING 3 ай бұрын

well it saved my life on my bike coz the twat in a car who pulled out on me stoped when he heard me coming down the road coz de defo didnt see me!!

@claudiumoldovan1871 2 ай бұрын

How come whatever is nice they make it illegal straight away 😅

@firesaab31 2 ай бұрын

Cars can legitimately pass MOT emissions test with a decat.

@andybowie8590 24 күн бұрын

I'm glad my income tax isn't being wasted on toys for police cars... bloody ridiculous

@Kamil-yb9xz 3 ай бұрын

Agreed with every coment below ❤ leave us alone and concentrate on real crimes ! I have decat full titanium exhaust on my vxr and its not going anywhere ! Fuck politicians and there fucking rules ! Fix the roads instead concentrating on fixing something that's not a problem ! Loud pipes saves LIVES !

@CregVinchenzo-u8y Ай бұрын

Never yrust a man that's mates with A copper

@poitynine 3 ай бұрын

Used to have a cat back straight piped fiesta zetec as my first car, police used to pull me over and check my car and then tell me it’s legal and let me go. Never got any tickets for it, wouldn’t pass a mot though so did have to swap it out for my stock exhaust and swapped it back after.

@ryanwilkins3206 3 ай бұрын

if it was cat back why wouldn't it have passed an MOT? MOT doesn't measure for noise yet.

@poitynine 3 ай бұрын

@@ryanwilkins3206 Mot does measure for noise. It failed its mot a few months before I traded it in. Failed for a few things including the exhaust. It’s section 8.1. noise “Exhaust noise from the vehicle must not be unreasonably above the noise level you’d expect from a similar vehicle with a standard silencer in average condition.” Mine failed on section 8.1.1.(a) “Exhaust noise levels in excess of those permitted.” Which is a major defect. Had to put the old back box on but didn’t have to put the mid section silencer for it to pass. Just removed it again after it passed the mot.

@ryanwilkins3206 3 ай бұрын

⁠@@poityninethat’s really wooly and subjective because there is no definition of what is excessive. My GT86 passed its MOT yesterday with flying colours and she is a lot louder than stock, think she comes in at 92db which is about 15db louder than stock 🤣

@poitynine 3 ай бұрын

@@ryanwilkins3206 does urs have a back box? Mine was just 3’ pipe work from the cat to a twin tip exhaust. Mine was 111db which was way above the stock level. The exhaust on my new car passed it’s mot but it’s just a gpf back exhaust from cobra sport with a back box.

@VisorView Ай бұрын

All mods will soon have to be logged with the DVLA. The DVLA will have the right to inspect any car. If all mods have not been logged then it will be a £500 fine for each mod. Any mods that are illegal will be identified and the car banned from the road and not allowed back on until the car is legal. If they link the data to insurance records then the insurance company will either increase your premiums for the undeclared legal mods, or cancel your insurance because of the illegal ones. They will look for reg plates, tyres, wheel arches, DPF's, EGR's, exhausts, silencers, tinting, and anything else that was not standard when the car was new. It is going to get very expensive for some owners, and many cars will become worthless.

@tapoutfury213 3 ай бұрын

YOU DONT MENTION REAL CRIME HAVING A MOD ON A CAR IS NOT A CRIME U GOT TOO MUCH TIME TO WASTE 🤬 TYPICAL BS POLICE

@alexdebono4087 2 ай бұрын

I've been saying it for years. Here in the UK, we're privileged in contrast to other EU countries. Brits, don't moan please.

@JamieWalker-pc6nd Ай бұрын

Ahh good! I’m glad that they went to the most expensive bespoke exhaust manufacturer to the rescue…. Also there’s a big difference between a “pop and bang” map and a well tuned car. Mine will crackle and pop a little on downshift , but it’s a built motor and it’s turbocharged which as any petrolhead knows will give you extra fuel in the exhaust manifold

@whynotagain3639 2 ай бұрын

I really don't understand the pop bang maps, they sound absolutely crap.why would you want to do that to your car? Before you say I'm boring, I modify my cars but to improve the handling and performance, not to make gun shit noises... I heavily modified a Vauxhall Calibra Turbo 4x4, I put a 3 inch stainless downpipe with a 3 inch AFM pipe the other side of the turbo connected to big mushroom filter, with 2.5 inch full stainless powerflow exhaust, sport cat, race staggered oil seal, uprated Courtney turbo, uprated clutch and flywheel, remapped to about 280hp, a turbo timer, locked full time 4x4 transfer box, full irmscher body kit, coil overs and loads of stuff that i now can't remember. I really don't understand car modification scene these days with stance cars and the bop and bang maps the modifications are actually making the cars worse. It makes no sense!

@jacklawrenson4036 3 ай бұрын

Where can I ask a specific question ? I was given a £50 FPN for using a tinted visor on motobike . If I were to use it again would I get given a worse fine ?or points ?

@markacres7505 3 ай бұрын

But if the visor was clear and you wore sunglasses you would have not been done ….. go figure that shit system out 🤔🤔

@ryanwilkins3206 3 ай бұрын

@@markacres7505 because you can take the sunglasses off. The visor is counted as a safety feature of the helmet and "shouldn't" be removed. This is why a lot of manufacturers build in tinted sun visors that you can slide up into the helmet when it gets dark. Tinted visors are only an issue when it is dark.

@victorstoulm3356 3 ай бұрын

13:17 That's probably the worst sound of RS I ever heard. Ford made so baaaaad job on this engine ......... 2.5 in mk2 is brilliant and they should stay with Volvo engines.

@keljon32 3 ай бұрын

Biggest issue with the EC approved sports cats is they are 3 x the cost and a decent sports cat isn’t exactly cheap

@LukazRC 2 ай бұрын

Not only is it miserable weather over there but miserable car laws to

@islasandjessicas 29 күн бұрын

Hiya, I'm not into modifying my car, I'm the wrong side of 50 for that lol, but having just watched this video, could you please tell me out of curiosity, whether these motorbikes that have had modifications made to their exhausts are likely to be legal or not, because some of them are really quite loud. Regards Jessica.