Is It Possible to Electrify a Porsche with Dual Tesla Motors?

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1:41 - Front Motor Fitment
9:40 - Rear Motor Fitment
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@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

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@selven08 10 ай бұрын

Hey I think the end of the link is missing

@raph2354 10 ай бұрын

if someone is interested, the link in the description works

@JerryRigEverything 10 ай бұрын

Your editing is getting really good!

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Wow! Thanks!

@adamhornak3529 10 ай бұрын

What do you mean? It has always been perfect!

@lonewarrior6633 10 ай бұрын

Hey Jerry…..massive fan from the UK! Hope you’re doing well! All the best! From one dad to another

@chargeheadsuk 10 ай бұрын

Love your channel, whats your opinion on the UK EV conversions? 🤔⚡️🇬🇧 #chargeheadsUK

@kylereese4822 6 ай бұрын

@@ElectricSuperCar If fitting as Tesla intended you could use homemade portal axel ends fitted inboard to the motor outputs with there own frame that connects to the motor mount etc...

@ohabbal8169 10 ай бұрын

One thing you could do for the rear motor is to separate the inverter from the actual motor and make an end cap and longer cabling and hoses to run between them. This should make the motor narrower such that it fits between the suspension mounting points. The inverter can then be mounted elsewhere where space is plenty.

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the idea!

@cornbreadreturns296 10 ай бұрын

I think this is the way to go, then you don't have to shave off any attachment points on the vehicle - just need to find space for the inverter somewhere else.

@bmar1784 10 ай бұрын

I believe @richrebuilds did that in one of his videos. @agingwheels swapped the direction of the motor and had to change something with the oil pump

@robj5780 10 ай бұрын

From what I have seen, if you flip the motor (running it in reverse), you might have issues with the internal oil pump. There are a few episodes from @ElectricClassicCars where they had to resolve that. Not sure if that is the same setup you are attempting but something to keep in mind. You are much braver than I am....

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Yep, if I run in reverse I will need to swap an oil pump as well

@RealRickCox 10 ай бұрын

I always love seeing how you approach problems. Even though sales/marketing is what paid the bills, you've got a an engineers mind. Good problem solving isn't something a lot of people are taught in schools. Can't wait to see how everything looks when you get both motors mounted.

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment!

@eyeswizard 10 ай бұрын

I love the way you try to solve problems. Putting the motor backwards is brilliant

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment!

@bradbrowatzke7236 7 ай бұрын

Came back to this video to verify my suspicions with your video regarding the switching of leads in the rear motor. It makes perfect sense, and I was sure this was the reason you had opted to do that. It is nice to have a chance to come back to this video and refresh thoughts. I loved that you did your due diligence and realized there is a breathing hole and drain on the rear motor, Jeremy. A simple detail, but important for the longevity of the motor, and so easily overlooked.

@ElectricSuperCar 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment!

@tedforringer9124 10 ай бұрын

Just commenting to make the algorithm like you. Good luck moving forward!

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Much appreciated!

@dangleebols 10 ай бұрын

Another excellent video, well done.

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

@moltenn_ 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for another great episode! Keep up the good work. Can't wait to see the next one :D

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks, will do!

@allisonsnow6782 10 ай бұрын

your problem solving skills are crazy!!! 🤯 i love seeing what’s new with the car!!!

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

More to come!

@mrfixall 10 ай бұрын

It's so awesome that you are taking us all on this journey! And Zach is correct, your video, sound and editing are getting really good.thanks again for sharing!

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks so much!!

@Kurogane-san 10 ай бұрын

I like shorter videos of you trying to solve specific problems. And thet CADboard was 10/10

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Friend!

@frankiestomatoes 10 ай бұрын

dude you are really getting the hang of the editing! keep it going, really love this project!

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks! Will do!

@usa-earth 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for bringing us along for the "ride!"! Great video Jeremy!

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Any time!

@jacksonsnow1743 10 ай бұрын

Love it! It’s so cool how you do all of this!

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@timgrinton6249 10 ай бұрын

Love watching your videos. Your ingenuity is amazing.

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thank you very much!

@Fersman1972 10 ай бұрын

Love to see the process; it's a great video, as always. Thank you and hello from Costa Rica

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@Fersman1972 10 ай бұрын

Thank you,@@ElectricSuperCar, for making the content; keep it coming.

@PedroRafael 10 ай бұрын

engine assembly looks crazy hard!

@ch33s3man2 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the upload! Love that you used lumber lol

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment!

@MondegoPress 10 ай бұрын

Awesome video and build progress, bud!

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@Mijo0x9 10 ай бұрын

Love this video. I have a sugestion, if you don't have a 3D printer. Get one. That way you could make parts for the car and jigs for drilling/mounting parts. (I got one and it has been amazing for projects)

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Great tip!

@raymondlucas1812 10 ай бұрын

Great work, love the show, great car to do it on.

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks 👍

@KingsleyPhoto 10 ай бұрын

Great work and the shopping list, 1. Wide angle lens, 2. Alcohol 3. Accel Pedal Plate. Love it

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

LOL!

@CurtisTarwater 10 ай бұрын

Ok I'm bookmarking this entire series. I want to do this on an old Porsche 912E. Just fascinating on the build 👏👏👏

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Right on!

@nicoxis 10 ай бұрын

I like the Winamp logo :D

@EmperorofWeb 10 ай бұрын

Love your work, keep it up🙌

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thank you 🙌

@josephkelly4893 10 ай бұрын

Don’t forget lots of triangles on the back of those engine mounts for strength, the torque from those Tesla motors is huge

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion!

@Ezdiess 10 ай бұрын

I see editing getting better. Keep it up man!

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks, will do!

@frodemarkhus3692 10 ай бұрын

Interesting video. Thank you from Norway.

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Friend!

@mayuravirus6134 10 ай бұрын

A reminder that Porsche is the one that pioneers hybrid tech way back in Lohner Porsche and Porsche Tiger

@MrMarkusmulder 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video and Stay safe ✌️.

@ElectricSuperCar 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment!

@ivankuljis1780 10 ай бұрын

Just discovered you tonight. _I N S P I R A T I O N A L stuff_ .

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Welcome aboard!

@Harvey-gg9nu 7 ай бұрын

You your eddying is dope

@Sup3rvisoR 10 ай бұрын

Great work

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Wow! Thanks for the support!

@dbousq 10 ай бұрын

Great video!

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@fladder1 10 ай бұрын

Awesome build, and cool problem solving. About those tabs on the rear suspension, I'm betting that by bolting the in-between stuff to it, Porsche stiffened the rear suspension, thus ensured better handling in the corners. I'm not sure it's wise to cut them off without replacing what was basically a cross brace

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Right you are. I will probably need to reinforce once I am done.

@fladder1 10 ай бұрын

@@ElectricSuperCar can't wait to see how you'll solve that conundrum!

@lasersterling 10 ай бұрын

Looking good brother!

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

@Omri.Collects 10 ай бұрын

Another great video 👍🏼

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks again!

@tomwilliams8675 10 ай бұрын

Well done. It's getting there.

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Friend!

@user-aRb00d3r 10 ай бұрын

CAD (cardboard-aided design) is always the best!

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Totally!

@ArdilloEngineering 10 ай бұрын

I went thru the same pain in my build with he front motor, by rotating the front unit now you will have some oiling issues, but it have a simple solution that will required to open the differential cover. Also on the rear motor you can remove the inverter and remote locate it, there is a cover plate that will bolt to where the inverter goes if you decide to go that route. But reversing the motor is not a good idea the internal gears are helical and they are intended to run at full speed where is considered naturally forward, if you change the reverse to be the new forward, eventually you will damage the internal gearing. Of course it can run in reverse but not a t full speed neither for too long. I sent you an email with some pictures.

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Got your email

@g-mech1244 7 ай бұрын

What is your solution for oiling a rotated front motor?

@kevinizatt 10 ай бұрын

Great progress. Wish I could do something like this.

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment!

@Hmdstory94 10 ай бұрын

Wow, this is amazing

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Friend!

@haplo6161 10 ай бұрын

Those tabs look like they are for a sway bar or strut bar. Those may be for stiffening you suspension. Keep up the great work.

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment!

@J.P.__ Ай бұрын

Some modifying needed but all seems to fit. That's good. I'm kinda worried for my build.

@allanhunks5134 10 ай бұрын

Massive project 👌

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@TheRealMrCods 10 ай бұрын

Lot of work. Im sure you will work it out. 👍

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

I hope so!

@MrFoxRobert 10 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

You're welcome!

@oceanpathway 10 ай бұрын

Big update bro Worst-case senerio... U can use the tesla rear subframe and bolt it into the main-frame like u did the the supercar project; which means u will have to use the tesla suspension setup So it may require some little extra CADboard work 😂😂💔 But it would be bolt in and less work

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment!

@Cybernetic_Systems 10 ай бұрын

Check out the teslarossa build by Electric Classic Cars in the UK. They used a kit that allows the rear motor to be installed the “wrong way” around.

@bastiand.771 10 ай бұрын

It will be very interesting to see how you come up with a solution of where to put the batteries given a lot of the real estate has been taken up with dual motors!

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Next episode already out

@toyo86 10 ай бұрын

Love the idea however I would try to get some sort of absorbing element between the fram rail and the mount allow some sort of flex also improve noise and vibration.

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Definitely! Thanks for the comment!

@sulfur32066 10 ай бұрын

Amazing 😮

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

@suryavanshib 10 ай бұрын

No doubt ✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻 You will definitely do it👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Awesome ✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Friend!

@RAXITH_playz 10 ай бұрын

Suspension are ment to move like gimbal (not much but yes) now the suspensions are unloaded ( I mean car weight is not pushing the suspension) it might fit now after little metal shave but as you gonna put weight like battery and interior it’ll get heavy which may result in brushing other mechanical parts there need to be some sort of clearance for shaft.

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment!

@tamvantiadatara 10 ай бұрын

Amazing

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

@rjung_ch 10 ай бұрын

Thanks! 👍💪✌

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Any time!

@TechTheSam 10 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Wow! Thanks for the support!

@TechTheSam 10 ай бұрын

@@ElectricSuperCar thanks for the content!

@mndlessdrwer 3 ай бұрын

If you can keep the weight even close to the original car's and keep the batteries relatively low in the car then I can certainly see this being an excellent sports car when you're done with it. The Cayman has always been a car with a lot of potential. I'm most looking forward to seeing if you're able to reuse the existing Porsche suspension, since that's a large part of why the Cayman is so excellent. If the weight does balloon past the stock weight too far then you may need to purchase some stiffer springs to compensate.

@ElectricSuperCar 3 ай бұрын

You are correct

@raymutch 10 ай бұрын

Hey one thing to check , are the gears case hardened on both face's ( front and rear of the gear) . If you are running backwards you might be running on the 'soft' face of the gear. I had this problem in an old truck i did some work on.

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Luckily I am not the 1st to run it in reverse. Several EV conversions have been done like this without issue. Thanks for bringing up the point!

@lonewarrior6633 10 ай бұрын

This is mint!!!

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

👍

@Draconis8888 10 ай бұрын

Do I correctly spy an "On Air" sign? 🆒 It's neat to see your problem solving steps. Looking forward to seeing how you mount things to deal with vibration and torque issues.

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment!

@TheNorthernmunky 10 ай бұрын

Awesome

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Friend!

@kellymcteer5076 10 ай бұрын

Love it. What are you doing for front axels and hubs? Carrera 4?

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Still researching. Maybe 911 hubs

@kdreed96 10 ай бұрын

Love seeing the process. How many kwh’s worth of modules do you think you can squeeze in?

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

44kWh

@gcagca3001 10 ай бұрын

Wow!

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Friend!

@kallefleck8717 10 ай бұрын

Nice 💪🏻💯

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks 🔥

@Itemmusthave 10 ай бұрын

I love thissssss

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Friend!

@andreyl2705 10 ай бұрын

awesome))

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

@paulmeynell8866 10 ай бұрын

Cool

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment!

@Mp57navy 10 ай бұрын

Hmmm. I just bought a Taycan and saved me the work involved.

@ericgrand5947 10 ай бұрын

Nice engineering job! Have you look to Electric Classic Car Ferrari Testarossa conversion? I believe they also faced this issue of flipping the motor. upside down.

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

I'll check it out!

@Ray88G 10 ай бұрын

You can take the inverter completely of and relocate it where you want

@8scottyt 10 ай бұрын

I don't know if it is the case with Tesla motors, but most gears are made to be under high load in one direction. If you put high load in the opposite (reverse) direction than it was manufactured for, you could shred the gears. It happens in 4wds when people get stuck and gun it in reverse.

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment!

@nixter1nixter1 10 ай бұрын

You could use the entire Tesla motor and axle assembly, but it has weird tall shock towers, so it's probably best done the way you are doing it.

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment!

@evilbikerider 10 ай бұрын

keeping the transmission in the back is just like Porsche having engine in back probably better for weight balance too closer to factory

@mt01power79 10 ай бұрын

Attention! If you run the Tesla engine backwards, you have to change the oil pump. Parts are available in the aftermarket. Check out other KZfaqrs

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Already ordered

@mt01power79 10 ай бұрын

@@ElectricSuperCar Perfect…

@Daniel_Blake 10 ай бұрын

Cardboard Aided Design. An engineers best technique.

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

😎

@zilverzero 10 ай бұрын

are you concerned about the different mounting angle? pitching it forward may cause the sump pickup to be above the fluid level

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

I will likely crack open the front motor and see if any adjustments are needed to the oil pump or oil pickup location.

@kirkellis4329 10 ай бұрын

The front drive units from the S/X are so much less expensive (~1K vs ~2.5K) than the Large Rear Drive Units or even the small rear drive units. Is there a reason you can't use two front drive units ? I seem to remember reading something about front drive units lacking some signal or bit of electronics that made them unusable without being paired with a rear drive unit (large or small), but can't find the reference anymore. The front drive units are narrower and might fit in your rear easier. Even the small rear drive unit is narrower that the large rear drive. Building an AWD Porsche, do you really need the extra power potential and cost of the LDU ?

@Yerevan301 10 ай бұрын

Is the FDU centered following the jackshaft or the case ? You could delete the jackshaft and use a driver side cv on the passenger side. I sent you some photos on the ev forum. If it might be helpful for your conversion.

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks! I'll check it out.

@Scooterman8846 10 ай бұрын

What if you did a inverter relocation kit on the rear-drive unit? Would that help you get it into the spot?

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Interesting 🤔

@josephjones4293 10 ай бұрын

The motor in front of the rear axle is better for performance / weight distribution… That subframe could easily be scanned and recreated out of 4130 giving you all the clearance in the world and not risking strength

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment!

@cooluser23 10 ай бұрын

Not really, as the heavy part are batteries, not the motor. You want the batteries as close to the center of the car as possible.

@pavankalyan03 10 ай бұрын

Hola brooooo

@padgemoments 10 ай бұрын

Can't wait until you're fully dilated and pushing! LOL

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

You and me both!

@martinbeaumier7172 10 ай бұрын

Just use the tesla suspension and make a subframe if you can’t use the tesla subframe

@g-mech1244 7 ай бұрын

Is there any possible issues with the rotated front motor, in terms of coolant flow, air locks etc. Cheers

@ElectricSuperCar 7 ай бұрын

I guess we will find out

@Poxenium 10 ай бұрын

Model S motors? THen the oil pump propeller thing in the gearbox will spin backwards ... might wanna check that out if it still lubricates...

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment. Yes, I will have to get a new oil pump.

@jonathanheath294 10 ай бұрын

Harbor freight sales a descent cheap engine hoist and trans jack

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion!

@user-ix9uq4gz1j 10 ай бұрын

there could be a problem with the oil pump, plus the coolant will have air gaps(plugs), and last but not least, it will be almost impossible to change the diff oil(every 30k miles) if you change the orientation of the motor(in the back)

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Tesla motors do not require changing gear oil...ever. not in any service maintenance schedule

@user-ix9uq4gz1j 10 ай бұрын

@@ElectricSuperCar well, yeah, maybe I’m just overthinking thinking this, but as a technician- I couldn’t agree with that, plus, after numerous tests, I hear and feel the difference after the oil change. I’ve changed my fair share of gears in those drive units, and after 100k they really wear out….(of course it depends on how one drives the car)…thus….oil change wouldn’t harm….

@user-ix9uq4gz1j 10 ай бұрын

@@ElectricSuperCar I’m not trying to convince you to do anything , in the end, I’m just a guy on the other side of the planet, and I’m just sharing my experience. This is your project, and you’ve done a lot of work. I’m simply advising, or in other words, voicing my thoughts how I would do it, and what concerns I have.

@alpenfoxvideo7255 10 ай бұрын

be sure to buy a reversed oil pump if youre running the motor in reverse

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Already ordered

@anupsoni1973 10 ай бұрын

Hy I am from India. I also want to make this type car can you teach me?

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Follow the video series!

@IhabFahmy 10 ай бұрын

I'm really quite sad that the glorious-sounding, emotive RS3 engine is being replaced with electric motors. That hurts, man! 😁

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Definitely not an RS3

@mikejf4377 9 ай бұрын

Say harbor freight, engine hoist. You’re doing great. Will the pump still work correctly in that setup or are you going to need to replace it with one that runs backwards from zero In Britain?

@ElectricSuperCar 9 ай бұрын

Yep. Already ordered

@szymonszym2082 10 ай бұрын

It was rear drive. How are you going to connect front drive shafts with hub? New hubs? Some from 4x4 Porsche?

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

That is the initial plan, get some new hubs in the front

@szymonszym2082 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for the answer. Keeping my fingers crossed for your project! @@ElectricSuperCar

@hud_hdr_gaming3988 10 ай бұрын

Are you using the performance motor or the long range?

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

I got a performance motor set from EV Parts Guy

@the_hamrat 10 ай бұрын

Out of interest how are you going to get the Tesla systems to talk to the Porshe electronics? Or are you going to keep them separate?

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

I can't wait to show you! More to come!

@pheuker45322 10 ай бұрын

Was that a liter of sparkling water into the cooling vest? Extra fancy 😂

@ElectricSuperCar 10 ай бұрын

Just tap water from a reusable water container

@pheuker45322 10 ай бұрын

@@ElectricSuperCar just joking - looked just like a Sodastream container 😂

@husseinmukhtar6434 9 ай бұрын

Pls how much does it cost for the Tesla front drive unit.

@ElectricSuperCar 9 ай бұрын

I got mine from evpartsguy. Contact for current pricing Tesla parts - www.evpartsguy.com/ Ebay EV parts - www.ebay.com/str/evpartsguy Instagram - instagram.com/evpartsguy/