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Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, LeSean McCoy and James Jones discuss whether Jalen Hurts is running away with the MVP award after a five-touchdown game against the Buffalo Bills. They then debate whether Josh Allen's squad has officially hit rock bottom with a 6-6 record.
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@SpeakOnFS1
@SpeakOnFS1 7 ай бұрын
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@tainopride1
@tainopride1 7 ай бұрын
Why hill still got the kc logo... 🤔
@miljackson5327
@miljackson5327 7 ай бұрын
It was really a master class of how you run OT
@uriellevelupriley684
@uriellevelupriley684 7 ай бұрын
Great points Acho and of course Shady and Joy James much love. ✨👑🔆
@davidtorresalcazar1633
@davidtorresalcazar1633 7 ай бұрын
Justin herbert is the best quarterback alive his stats are better Dan Marino Justin herbert is 🐐 . Justin herbert leads the NFL with the most passing yards in 1st 4th seasons in history 16,915 and in leads the NFL with the competitions right now in first 4th seasons 1582 . He did it with a broken finger. His 3rd oc with out Mike Williams and Josh palmer
@icharannflowers540
@icharannflowers540 7 ай бұрын
Herbert is a Great QB wrong team point blank period
@pewsandbrews
@pewsandbrews 7 ай бұрын
Lets give some props to Jake Elliott. Driving rain, wind, 59 yds, game on the line, 2 penalties in a row pushing them back, would have been good from 65. That was some ice cold clutch action right there.
@zirslum6916
@zirslum6916 7 ай бұрын
Every real eagle knows he was the biggest piece cause our future hall of famer having bacc to bacc false starts was huge and it looked bad that Aj dropped that pass but it lowkey was good cause they didn’t have to rush out there and hurry and kicc it
@alexsherel3344
@alexsherel3344 7 ай бұрын
NOBODY thought Jake would do all that. I used to call Akers “money” Jake got that now.
@gerardoarambula8613
@gerardoarambula8613 7 ай бұрын
Dam rite it was with out that there is no Win. Talk about clutch we got some on all units. Did u see Jordan Davis chase J Allen
@brandonwoodward3733
@brandonwoodward3733 7 ай бұрын
That Kick from Jake was cold blooded. I was a little nervous of course , but I know that man is clutch every time.
@Jahnks
@Jahnks 7 ай бұрын
​@@alexsherel3344 He's 8/8 for game tying/game winning field goals in his career he knows how to show up. That 61 yarder against the giants was especially epic
@danman462
@danman462 7 ай бұрын
Last year they said the eagles’ schedule was too easy, now this year it’s the refs smh why can’t people just say the eagles have a great organization with good players?
@corymargarucci
@corymargarucci 7 ай бұрын
I think the Eagles are the best team in the league but I still think the refs made bad calls last night. Bills had 6 chances to win the game and fell short, but the refs took away even more with some bad calls. Its on the Bills because they had multiple chances to win but the refs certainly impacted the outcome.
@iamsamfortunebrg8772
@iamsamfortunebrg8772 7 ай бұрын
Eagles Ballin but some of these games the refs don't call a thing on Philly no teak is that perfect
@SmokeNMirrors600
@SmokeNMirrors600 7 ай бұрын
49ers at full strength are just as good as eagles they are like undefeated when cmc Debo and Trent plays
@SmokeNMirrors600
@SmokeNMirrors600 7 ай бұрын
Eagles are like 27-3 last two years including playoffs tho so it’s them and San Fran would be 1b although I got 49ers over eagles this weekend
@1400Cee
@1400Cee 7 ай бұрын
Eagles haven't played a game with a fully healthy team all year and we are 10-1 I really could care less about what everybody has to say atp. We win no debates
@williearrington6285
@williearrington6285 7 ай бұрын
I’m a Dolphins fan but Jalen Hurt is Hulu sports
@mtg__7173
@mtg__7173 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@aidancarty822
@aidancarty822 7 ай бұрын
Good one
@d-onniie
@d-onniie 7 ай бұрын
after last year, with all the excuses people made for Hurts and the Eagles getting to the super bowl, i dont even say anything anymore. i really cant. people were saying all last year that the Eagles would get exposed and Hurts wont be top 10 in the MVP race this season. "its a fluke, they have a cupcake schedule" is what they said all last season. Eagles have been the best team in the NFL for 2 straight years now and people still trying to make excuses this year. Philly fans know what's up and the Eagles continue to shut up the doubters of our "fluke season". He's currently running through the schedule, what people called "a true AFC test for the Eagles" and the excuses STILL continue. All i say now is : FLY EAGLES FLY
@TaiLePhan
@TaiLePhan 7 ай бұрын
Maybe if yall didn't act like you guys won a superbowl last year or the fact you only have 1 ring as a franchise which is embarrassing
@MayorBrownn
@MayorBrownn 7 ай бұрын
@@TaiLePhanhow is it embarrassing. 12 other teams have never won a Super Bowl
@KSWA21
@KSWA21 7 ай бұрын
@@TaiLePhan What a stupid take. What happened 60 years prior has zero impact on winning a championship recently. Come up with a better excuse.
@deshondrehigginbotham506
@deshondrehigginbotham506 7 ай бұрын
Everyone knows the true test were the healthy 49ers bro. Who else the eagles gonna face with as many weapons as the 49ers…
@KSWA21
@KSWA21 7 ай бұрын
@@MayorBrownnit’s not embarrassing. The cowpie fans coddle themselves that propaganda because they know that will never win a championship ever again.
@RashidEllisSr
@RashidEllisSr 7 ай бұрын
Getting benched in that Ntnl. Championship game was the best thing to ever happen to him. It created a monster. Thank you Nick Saban.
@lennybeason1110
@lennybeason1110 7 ай бұрын
I’m a Lamar guy but Hurts should win MVP !
@jusbertmeza4424
@jusbertmeza4424 7 ай бұрын
Oh please Jalen doesn’t deserve MVP his numbers are mediocre im tired of everyone defaulting to the best teams QB i can name 10 other players in the league that are playing better at their positions than Hurtz is in his.
@prestonsoulamany7909
@prestonsoulamany7909 7 ай бұрын
@@jusbertmeza4424name them plz Your ceazy
@kevaughnkerr8185
@kevaughnkerr8185 7 ай бұрын
@@jusbertmeza4424it can be argued that other people deserve to get MVP, but Jalen should be in that discussion as well. Simple as that.
@not_noah2673
@not_noah2673 7 ай бұрын
@@jusbertmeza4424stats aren’t what makes Jalen good. He isn’t flashy. The most valuable player on the Field is not the quarterback with the best stats. It’s the qb who always finds a way to win no matter what.
@not_noah2673
@not_noah2673 7 ай бұрын
In my opinion I don’t care how good the states are if they lose
@sabintee9232
@sabintee9232 7 ай бұрын
That kick by Elliot was one of the clutches kick I’ve ever seen
@nasirmarshall4469
@nasirmarshall4469 7 ай бұрын
“I can throw a football over mountains bro” 😂😂😂
@Bout3Fittyy
@Bout3Fittyy 7 ай бұрын
As a die hard Philly fan, I still feel like it’s CMC… he’s been unstoppable for the Niners
@gelo_b95
@gelo_b95 7 ай бұрын
I wish there could be an MVP award for both conferences. I think Lamar and Jalen both deserve it.
@CTEagleCeltic
@CTEagleCeltic 7 ай бұрын
Not a bad idea… baseball gives out AL/NL awards, right?
@brandonjackson6323
@brandonjackson6323 7 ай бұрын
Lamar ain’t putting up mvp numbers stop it and Jalen benefits from the eagles not the other way around
@camdenkeefer1310
@camdenkeefer1310 7 ай бұрын
so those 5 TDs had nothing to do with it? ffs they dont win that game without jalen you goof@@brandonjackson6323
@Renegade-kf8fp
@Renegade-kf8fp 7 ай бұрын
Lol
@JerZ_Grape973
@JerZ_Grape973 7 ай бұрын
@@brandonjackson6323let me guess you think mahomes should get it huh
@treychew7287
@treychew7287 7 ай бұрын
Jake Elliot might be the most clutch kicker in the league right now can’t forget what he did, I believe most kickers would have missed that kick
@DoubleRblk300
@DoubleRblk300 7 ай бұрын
What’s crazy is Jalen’s stats were SUPER impressive but lost the only game that truly matters I feel like this year it’s not about stats with him he truly just want to win the game!
@gelo_b95
@gelo_b95 7 ай бұрын
Bro that’s been his mentality since H.S. It’s in his DNA. He’s never satisfied and even when his team wins, he’s always disappointed in his performance and shows how he wants to get better. This kid’s literally the next Kobe.
@King-li9ko
@King-li9ko 7 ай бұрын
Eagles are the best team in the league. You don’t start 10-1 back to back seasons and it’s just luck. They are 27-2 over their last 29. Direct result of Hurts MVP caliber play. People forgot he was the runner up last year or something ?
@deshondrehigginbotham506
@deshondrehigginbotham506 7 ай бұрын
And what serious injury have they had in those two seasons..how many key players have the lost for more than five games? You don’t think that’s luck in this sport?
@carlosjr8649
@carlosjr8649 7 ай бұрын
Niners are going make Hurst look worse then what the Jets did to him 😂
@not_noah2673
@not_noah2673 7 ай бұрын
@@deshondrehigginbotham506bro just called 27-2 luck💀
@deshondrehigginbotham506
@deshondrehigginbotham506 7 ай бұрын
@@not_noah2673 how many key players were injured during that run? How many players miss more than 3 games? That’s lucky I football..you know how many injuries happen?
@not_noah2673
@not_noah2673 7 ай бұрын
@@deshondrehigginbotham506 do you know how stupid it is to base a 27-2 on luck. I don’t care if a single eagle player didn’t get injured during the whole stretch. It’s still freaking impressive and dominant. The eagles this year have had many key injuries yet they are 10-1.
@selphactualized9801
@selphactualized9801 7 ай бұрын
Been a fan of nfl since mid 70's and this Philadelphia team has those intangibles I've seen in championship teams. The whole game they look deplorable and still win. Bill Parcells once taken about his championship team that there were times he would put together what he thought were losing game plans and they'd still win and that is what this team has. Not necessarily swag but persistence, teamwork, chemistry.
@vincente4570
@vincente4570 7 ай бұрын
& the football gods too. So make sure you include that fact too🥳
@selphactualized9801
@selphactualized9801 7 ай бұрын
@vincente4570 ok. And the football Gods too.
@vincente4570
@vincente4570 7 ай бұрын
@@selphactualized9801 Thanx for acknowledging that sir👍
@selphactualized9801
@selphactualized9801 7 ай бұрын
@@vincente4570 I did so because I agree
@marvinarthur8705
@marvinarthur8705 7 ай бұрын
​@@selphactualized9801Ah yes Bill Parcells and Phil Sims Giants years.
@AnnieRice-yt2bm
@AnnieRice-yt2bm 7 ай бұрын
Jalen Hurts deserve the MVP. He is great. Love him and his team. Blessings to The Eagles ❤️.
@JayStiles-kt2pm
@JayStiles-kt2pm 7 ай бұрын
Hurts and Lamar Jackson will fight for that award
@still2nd2none
@still2nd2none 7 ай бұрын
That's not a reason to win it. But good try though 👍
@gutzy8001
@gutzy8001 7 ай бұрын
Officials should win mvp
@brandoncamper2420
@brandoncamper2420 7 ай бұрын
​@@gutzy8001🥹🥹🥹😥😥🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫
@seankenny1275
@seankenny1275 7 ай бұрын
L@@gutzy8001
@BroBrown-up5ov
@BroBrown-up5ov 7 ай бұрын
Jalen hurts is the nfls comeback king 👑
@GreedRunsall
@GreedRunsall 7 ай бұрын
As a Bills fan, they had already hit rock bottom, now they are climbing back into what they should have been all season. It's gonna be tough to get in because of their schedule but they are starting to look like the bills they should be
@Endzoneproductions17
@Endzoneproductions17 7 ай бұрын
Exactly
@seanguitarman5594
@seanguitarman5594 7 ай бұрын
Feels like a real shake the rust off game, even though we lost. I saw enough Sunday to know we are at least on the right track now, albeit 13 weeks into the season 😆
@waljerjackson
@waljerjackson 7 ай бұрын
yea, i was not expecting the eagles to have a very difficult game, bills put up a crazy fight, they played unbelievably well. they finally looked like they should
@chriseatmon32
@chriseatmon32 7 ай бұрын
Bills gave that game away. This was in the bag for the Bills
@nunayadamnbusiness
@nunayadamnbusiness 7 ай бұрын
I love how The Cowboys, Chiefs and Eagles all have their centric shows on Fox. Brilliant set-up.
@a.t9538
@a.t9538 7 ай бұрын
Dude you’re on to something lol !!! Undisputed- cowboys Speak for yourself - eagles That show nick is on - chiefs
@IamDamian412
@IamDamian412 7 ай бұрын
@@a.t9538first things first
@jusbertmeza4424
@jusbertmeza4424 7 ай бұрын
⁠@@a.t9538its called First Things First and its much better than Speak and Undisputed 😂 well Skip and Shannon Undisputed was the best but im starting to like First Things first over the others
@brandonespinoza111
@brandonespinoza111 7 ай бұрын
@@jusbertmeza4424and to think people thought Shannon would take over first take he should’ve stayed with skip now he barely gets tv time now
@anthony3981
@anthony3981 7 ай бұрын
@@jusbertmeza4424First things first is ONLY good because of the cast around Nick wright. He alone makes people not want to watch it, but we put up with him because his surrounding cast is hilarious
@mr.ridley8255
@mr.ridley8255 7 ай бұрын
On a day like today I have to tip my hat to the Eagles. A few weeks ago I was one of those fans saying they should’ve lost this game, or they should’ve lost that game but at the end of the day they are winning games and regardless of what other teams “could’ve done” Hurts keep putting his team in position to win period
@rezilientradio747
@rezilientradio747 7 ай бұрын
💯
@jusbertmeza4424
@jusbertmeza4424 7 ай бұрын
Oh please Jalen doesn’t deserve MVP his numbers are mediocre im tired of everyone defaulting to the best teams QB i can name 10 other players in the league that are playing better at their positions than Hurtz is in his.
@freddycooks
@freddycooks 7 ай бұрын
That's 100% real talk!
@mr.ridley8255
@mr.ridley8255 7 ай бұрын
@@jusbertmeza4424 not once did I even mention MVP 😆
@llq4ever309
@llq4ever309 7 ай бұрын
Respect we find ways to win no matter how ugly or how it gets done it takes every player and we’re a resilient team we got the best record in football since last year and sitting at 10-1 idk how people can hate on that
@King-li9ko
@King-li9ko 7 ай бұрын
Jalen Hurts has to be the MVP. 2nd in total touchdowns, best record, best passer rating/QBR in crunch time this season. Eagles are 10-1(Again) because of him. 5TD comeback win after struggling early is crazy. He’s him
@SturdyRisk
@SturdyRisk 7 ай бұрын
Who’s first in touch downs ?
@NonContested
@NonContested 7 ай бұрын
@@SturdyRiskme
@deshondrehigginbotham506
@deshondrehigginbotham506 7 ай бұрын
I mean that’s what happens when the other team drops the ball…and you get another opportunity to write your wrongs. We shall see if it happens against the healthy and rested 49ers…
@Realninja301
@Realninja301 7 ай бұрын
@@deshondrehigginbotham506even if it doesn’t we’ll still be in first place and y’all still got sent home in the playoffs last year.
@deshondrehigginbotham506
@deshondrehigginbotham506 7 ай бұрын
@@Realninja301 didn’t y’all get sent home to or are we doing moral victories in Philly now? Yall didn’t finish the job. Hints Jalen’s phone wallpaper…
@freddycooks
@freddycooks 7 ай бұрын
This season, no matter how destitute the Eagles look throughout the entire game, it's been as if the game is not over until Jalen Hurts says it's over!
@akeemayeni156
@akeemayeni156 7 ай бұрын
The reason Jalen was disappointed is because he said he doesn't like kicking the ball. It shouldn't have to come to that. That's how he felt.
@jakelong6860
@jakelong6860 7 ай бұрын
The Iron bowl catch and the Jalen Hurts pass to DeVonte Smith in the Bills game were identical.
@ofcourseycooks6263
@ofcourseycooks6263 7 ай бұрын
Joy was cracking me up talk’n about “ I can lift more than you bro” 😂😂😂
@seanguitarman5594
@seanguitarman5594 7 ай бұрын
She had some good takes here for sure, good show all around too, less bickering and more dissecting lol
@moyosoredada3109
@moyosoredada3109 7 ай бұрын
This ain't LA Fitness 😂😂
@uriellevelupriley684
@uriellevelupriley684 7 ай бұрын
Jalen Hurts 🔆👑🔆 Shook his head 😭 at the field goal made!!!! Acho 💯🎯✨🔥✨👽 That's a different type of stoicism level we have not seen. 💯🎯 Great points
@uriellevelupriley684
@uriellevelupriley684 7 ай бұрын
And to add Joy looked absolutely stunning today ✨👑✨🔥🔥🔥🔥
@Kennyjustdoit
@Kennyjustdoit 7 ай бұрын
Great episode today! Everyone had great points today! Great energy and vibe today.
@bochito99
@bochito99 7 ай бұрын
Yeah until Buddy started saying Jalen Hurts don't look the part. And white Josh Allen does. Josh Allen been looking terrible with all the picks.
@Kennyjustdoit
@Kennyjustdoit 7 ай бұрын
@@bochito99 lmao 😂 yeah, I just pretend he didn’t say that.
@NSeaBear
@NSeaBear 7 ай бұрын
This show is quickly becoming the most honest show. Love it!!
@TalootB
@TalootB 7 ай бұрын
mvp= most valuable player on any team not just winning team. This is why the award will never mean anything
@robc2804
@robc2804 7 ай бұрын
Then it begs the question, how valuable are you if your team doesn't win?
@brandonwoodward3733
@brandonwoodward3733 7 ай бұрын
Winning is the most valuable stat. Nothing else even comes close.
@SunShine-xc6dh
@SunShine-xc6dh 7 ай бұрын
​@brandonwoodward3733 53 guys have that same team record... hurts doesn't have chance for a comeback if his kicker doesn't bail him out
@lifeisfortheliving2070
@lifeisfortheliving2070 7 ай бұрын
@@SunShine-xc6dh How dis he kicker get in range to kick the gield goal? Why do teams pay kicker? Isnt it his job to kick? Man just shut up.
@SunShine-xc6dh
@SunShine-xc6dh 7 ай бұрын
@lifeisfortheliving2070 why couldn't he get further? 59 yards in the rain ain't exactly in range... thats a clutch kick he must be the mvp... if qb really the mvp his job should just be kicking extra points... Is the qbs job just to take credit for everyone's play?
@moeamare4954
@moeamare4954 7 ай бұрын
Trent Williams is actually funny considering we're about to play the niners this weekend 😂🦅🦅🦅
@christie4724
@christie4724 7 ай бұрын
Love the takes about the Bills at the end.
@alwayzchillin0714
@alwayzchillin0714 7 ай бұрын
Talk your talk Shady! Hurts has now won an NFL record 8 straight games when trailing by 10+ pts, no other QB has more than 4 straight. Hurts also became only the 3rd player in NFL history to have a span of 29 games with 27+ Wins, joining only Tom Brady and Jim McMahon. The Eagles are also just the 3rd team in NFL history to start back to back seasons 10-1, the other two went on to win a Super Bowl.
@seanschifferle3001
@seanschifferle3001 7 ай бұрын
I feel so bad for Josh. How many times over his years has he scored with under 2 minutes left and lost the game. This year so far it’s been 3 times.
@seanguitarman5594
@seanguitarman5594 7 ай бұрын
I'm just hoping that he's mentally processing it optimistically, ...like "hey, maybe fate's just frontloading me with all this nonsense so that it's all smooth sailing ahead eventually!" Lol. Can't keep a good man down lol
@jimaltenbernd376
@jimaltenbernd376 7 ай бұрын
Yeah I think you need the ball to bounce your way sometimes that hasn't happened for buffalo...maybe they get on a roll or we will see next year after the coach and roster changes.Still think allens the best ,my quarterback.
@JoseSanchez-tn1bt
@JoseSanchez-tn1bt 7 ай бұрын
So now the chargers are a very good team 😂😂
@michaeld_68
@michaeld_68 7 ай бұрын
You know they are an eagles leaning show .
@AnthonyTurner-zr1ks
@AnthonyTurner-zr1ks 7 ай бұрын
That part
@delwinalvarez8086
@delwinalvarez8086 7 ай бұрын
Ikr. I thought they were a bad team when they play everyone else
@coreylemmon971
@coreylemmon971 7 ай бұрын
It’s always been like this they love hurts even tho really he’s been worse this season then last year. Double digit int and no slander even tho it’s week 12 lol I remember when they slander dak so badly for turnovers but not one word of int or turnovers but oh well it’s how the media does things even tho he’s worse this year and he didn’t win mvp so he plays worse. They mention Trent and tyreek which is great cause this year shouldn’t be a mvp qb award
@delwinalvarez8086
@delwinalvarez8086 7 ай бұрын
@@coreylemmon971 and they refuse to acknowledge Dak. He's making a lot of people eat their words. They always moving the goal posts
@jodie_d
@jodie_d 7 ай бұрын
Philly able to find a way. Love it!
@taaqpakaina6013
@taaqpakaina6013 7 ай бұрын
Lesss gooo!!! Prayin for a good game but Shady keep that same energy my dude, we bout to get the rematch everyone really wanted 😂
@DaKidGowie
@DaKidGowie 7 ай бұрын
At the moment, I have Jalen Hurts at No.1 and Christian McCaffrey as the runner-up.
@ariebarnhil1671
@ariebarnhil1671 7 ай бұрын
Honestly the next three weeks will show who is ahead.
@clarencebray8681
@clarencebray8681 7 ай бұрын
I'm a phins fan and I love hurts. He's definitely MVP! Fly Eagles Fly
@onewordaday7386
@onewordaday7386 7 ай бұрын
I Love how you all are coordinating color scheme wise dope
@WhenInRome
@WhenInRome 7 ай бұрын
“I can lift more weights then you bro” KILLED ME😂
@spideysg1163
@spideysg1163 7 ай бұрын
As an eagles fan, Hurts is the mvp, when we win the next 3 games and are 13-1, don’t switch up!! Fly eagles fly 🦅!!
@chasetullar2732
@chasetullar2732 7 ай бұрын
It’s Tyreek but Jalen def wins the Best Qb award. Let’s just not pretend he’s the best player in the league lol. He’s been the best Qb in the league MVP just doesn’t mean much when it’s only between 32 guys be a lot different if it was between 300.
@zzQuanzz
@zzQuanzz 7 ай бұрын
I don’t sense any bias at all
@brandonstobbs7561
@brandonstobbs7561 7 ай бұрын
As a die hard eagle fan 🦅 I must say I’m here for joy 😍🤣💯
@lotuspod1222
@lotuspod1222 7 ай бұрын
this is the only football sports talk i will watch they keep it real but fair
@ItsArchieYo
@ItsArchieYo 7 ай бұрын
“Minshew not taking the colts to the playoffs” - James. This ain’t gonna age well at all
@doc_adams8506
@doc_adams8506 7 ай бұрын
Myles Garrett, please, make the MVP about the value of the defense.
@joeym3048
@joeym3048 7 ай бұрын
the hurts-allen conversation is quite an interesting one. the cool calm cluth qb that delivers non-flashy performances but guarantees results vs the flashy wow qb who makes amazing throws but cant close or produce results when it matters. Question is which would you rather have? As joy puts it its not LA fitness. At some point the Allen-hype needs to produce results
@SuperVortex
@SuperVortex 7 ай бұрын
Josh gave his team the lead twice in the game and his defense let him down. I’m takin Josh every time
@josephbanker3829
@josephbanker3829 7 ай бұрын
​@@SuperVortex 4x this season inside 2min Allen has given his team the lead. And defense blows it. Allen is way better than Hurts hahaha it's not even close. Hurts has never had over 22 td passes, Allen has avg 36 td passes a season last 3 years.
@SuperVortex
@SuperVortex 7 ай бұрын
@@josephbanker3829 yeah but I was meaning this game specifically lol. Allen is most definitely better than Hurts
@sunesistc
@sunesistc 7 ай бұрын
It’d be true if it didn’t come down to a straight shootout btwn the two QBs. Hurts’ defence put him in a hole 4 times in a row and he stepped up. Mahomes hs had terrible defenses. Défense or no it came down to a straight shootout and Allen lost. At some point he’s can’t keep blaming his defense. great QB’s overcome adversity, we keep coming up wit Reasons why it ain’t Allen’s fault… come on now he had the ball in his hands at the end! go score the td!! Plain and simple! How many times have allens’ countless int’s put his defense in terrible situations?
@sunesistc
@sunesistc 7 ай бұрын
I’m taking hurts allday any day!! No excuses just make the plays we need when we need
@ellis_1046
@ellis_1046 7 ай бұрын
She wants to talk statistics.... OKAAYYYYY.. Brock Purdy 2900 passin yards / 112 passer rating. Jalen Hurts 2700/95 passer.. NEXT ??
@tedgraham6548
@tedgraham6548 7 ай бұрын
James is a trooper he sound like don’t feel well and still came to work.
@jeycee32
@jeycee32 7 ай бұрын
I’m a Georgia Bulldogs fan and a Bills fan. Hurts has broken my heart more than once, but he deserves MVP at this point.
@brandonespinoza111
@brandonespinoza111 7 ай бұрын
Naw refs so many missed calls
@GottaLoveSeann
@GottaLoveSeann 7 ай бұрын
Why would he break your heart as a bulldog fan ? We are drafting your players and bringing them to a winning franchisee just like what Georgia is
@matthewstewart2377
@matthewstewart2377 7 ай бұрын
no
@nicholasbrathwaite1582
@nicholasbrathwaite1582 7 ай бұрын
Just a few days ago this panel thought CJ Stroud was at the MVP table alone. Now they have an offensive lineman in the conversation and Stroud can't get a mention in this segment. The flip flopping on this "show" is unreal. Can't take them seriously at this point.
@TheJonesmonster55
@TheJonesmonster55 7 ай бұрын
100%… I’m a 49ers fan so I appreciate Trent Williams but you can’t say Trent Williams should be the only 49ers in the mvp conversation but have hurts at #1 when every rush push conversations start with either he can squat 600 pounds and needs to have Kelce in that sentence. That alone should disqualify him according to Joys outrageous logic
@lifeisfortheliving2070
@lifeisfortheliving2070 7 ай бұрын
CJ shouldve never been it. Hes good but he has like 6 winz in a terrible division.
@bochito99
@bochito99 7 ай бұрын
At all. And they need to get off of Josh Allen nuts.
@FunnyMannDan
@FunnyMannDan 7 ай бұрын
6:24 😂Game, ”Blouses” in Dave Chapelle’s Prince voice
@johnkoops264
@johnkoops264 7 ай бұрын
Glad I'm not the only person who enjoyed that
@leanonme1065
@leanonme1065 7 ай бұрын
0.5 *To know that there's no Brock Purdy in that list is very disrespectful to San Francisco*
@shmavster4209
@shmavster4209 7 ай бұрын
I want Trent Williams to win it just because an O-lineman MVP would be just amazing
@youngkeazy2806
@youngkeazy2806 7 ай бұрын
Him being #4 as a o lineman is insane in and of itself
@marquisgreen4701
@marquisgreen4701 7 ай бұрын
Kelce deserves it more than him. Best/ Most Athletic Center to play the game. Point man of Brotherly shove 😩
@shmavster4209
@shmavster4209 7 ай бұрын
@@marquisgreen4701 yeah I’d definitely agree there, but centers never get any love
@CapeCod_y2k
@CapeCod_y2k 7 ай бұрын
@@marquisgreen4701lmfaooooooo me when I lie he ain’t got nothing on big ole Trent Williams
@AlbertaBrown-xt6pg
@AlbertaBrown-xt6pg 7 ай бұрын
!!!!
@Janny890
@Janny890 7 ай бұрын
Give the MVP to the Refs they’ve been dominating the league.
@SillyBastard
@SillyBastard 7 ай бұрын
Exactly hurts don't deserve MVP, the way he playing behind that strong offensive line, I'm a eagles fan, I still know better
@idkk703
@idkk703 7 ай бұрын
@@SillyBastardhe did it without Lane
@shareefhinson5101
@shareefhinson5101 7 ай бұрын
🥱 yeah because the refs kicked the 60 yd FG/ran for the TD and threw the ball too
@vibezworldwide
@vibezworldwide 7 ай бұрын
@@SillyBastardhe’s the reason why they won but continue lying lmao
@chasetullar2732
@chasetullar2732 7 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@idkk703Against the Bills lol and y’all act like he did all year without lane what happened in jets game without lane oh yeah that’s right lol. Bills aren’t a good team they’ve lost to the pats broncos jets and bengals lmfaoooo
@ryanrichard2736
@ryanrichard2736 7 ай бұрын
I’m so glad Joy seems to be moving and progressing in her career. She’s so thoughtful and well reasoned. Love hearing her perspective
@hodor1411
@hodor1411 7 ай бұрын
MVP is a Qb award it's been for years now, if we're talking about INDIVIDUAL players idk how CMC/ Hill/Tj Watt and even Daron Bland aren't being mentioned
@anthonycarmichael5013
@anthonycarmichael5013 7 ай бұрын
My Birds lost both their Offensive and Defensive Coordinators after last season, couple that with injuries on both sides of the ball to start this season, along with every team on your schedule giving you their best shot, equals the infamous super bowl hangover, which by the way, my Birds are about to emphatically disprove. Jalen has become numb to all of the noise and bias and subsequently, accustomed and immune to it, it's the very thing that drives him. Rex Ryan called him " a hired killer," nothing can be further from the truth. In spite of what's going on in a game, he plays like he wants it all.
@maskedman5657
@maskedman5657 7 ай бұрын
The Bills can play great on any given sunday but they are very inconsistent right now. Also have way too many injuries too They need to hire Ben Johnson from the Lions mext season.
@Johenz
@Johenz 7 ай бұрын
Bills are an average team
@KingEaglez29
@KingEaglez29 7 ай бұрын
When shady started sounded like an eagle I lost it 🤣🤣 we always miss slim when the eagles win.
@CarlosRayNorris1979
@CarlosRayNorris1979 7 ай бұрын
I thought CMC was the runaway leader for MVP. 2nd from yards from scrimmage and 1st in TDs is insane.
@TruSavage62
@TruSavage62 7 ай бұрын
Jalen MVP Hurts 💪😤
@o4tw382
@o4tw382 7 ай бұрын
If Hurts had enough time in the Super Bowl he could’ve got it done
@vincente4570
@vincente4570 7 ай бұрын
Man stop that🤦🏿‍♂️
@stickydog_hopkins9860
@stickydog_hopkins9860 7 ай бұрын
TD Blouses I'm weak 😂😂
@TheyCallMeGator
@TheyCallMeGator 7 ай бұрын
Jalen Hurts is that guy, no doubt. But, let's not forget if it weren't for their kicker, they wasn't going to OT. Wish my Bengals would've never released him.
@SuperVortex
@SuperVortex 7 ай бұрын
Josh has an MVP performance but it gets overlooked because they lost. 2021 we were 7-6 at this point in the season and we ended up winning out and made a great playoff run where Bills defense let Allen down against the Chiefs in the Divisional game
@cabalogia
@cabalogia 7 ай бұрын
Until Allen starts to win these games and in the playoffs nobody is gonna give him anything. It’s not all on him his coach is hot garbage just like his defenses.
@lifeisfortheliving2070
@lifeisfortheliving2070 7 ай бұрын
Josh allen has a top 10 defense
@masterotica
@masterotica 7 ай бұрын
​@@lifeisfortheliving2070 When they were healthy. We lost all of our all pros (Milano, White, Jones) even some of our backups. Von still isn't 100% back yet. Our defense hasn't looked the same since they all got injured in week 5 which is precisely when the Bills started nose diving.
@lifeisfortheliving2070
@lifeisfortheliving2070 7 ай бұрын
@@masterotica I understand how the injury impacts the defense..trust me weve been mismatching parts all year.. but the bills defense is ranked 10th right now..9th against the pass.. by comparison the eagles are ranked 26th against the pass. The bills are losing games in which their defense gives up less than 20 poins and 24 points.. thats not an insane amount of points given up. Theyre averaging 18.9 ppg.. allowed..the eagles 22.4ppg allowed. So...if Allen is who yall say he is.. shouldnt he be winning these games?
@bochito99
@bochito99 7 ай бұрын
If Josh stop throwing all them picks, then the Bills can win. The one dude on the show needs to get off of Josh Allen nuts though
@WorldsGr8stBossVids
@WorldsGr8stBossVids 7 ай бұрын
Let’s be clear. Jalen Hurts can throw footballs over mountains 💪
@RatbaGAMES
@RatbaGAMES 7 ай бұрын
Jalen Hurts has Mamba mentality
@asundelgun3487
@asundelgun3487 7 ай бұрын
I'm so tired of everyone tieing winning(a team stat) to QBs. Its so misleading and annoying. They give guys more credit for throwing 150 yards 1 TD and 1 INT in a win than a guy throwing for 350 yards 3 TDs and no INTs in a loss.
@randomanton
@randomanton 7 ай бұрын
Yeah because stats are only half of the equation. Can you think of great QB with a losing w/l record?
@tahira.7914
@tahira.7914 7 ай бұрын
An offensive lineman for mvp????
@kratoscallofduty
@kratoscallofduty 7 ай бұрын
How the F is CMC not even in the conversation? I don't understand.
@caldenhopkins9390
@caldenhopkins9390 7 ай бұрын
Just with his stats and impact these last 4 games
@gregorcollins
@gregorcollins 7 ай бұрын
How could CJ Stroud not be on everyone's ballot?
@saheruthepharaoh
@saheruthepharaoh 7 ай бұрын
Because they’re 6-5?
@tearfulplayz4771
@tearfulplayz4771 7 ай бұрын
@@saheruthepharaohW/L ratio is not a player statistic. Plus he IS the most valuable player on the Texans and he turned their franchise around. If they make it to the playoffs then there should be no question that he is in that race. 6-5 as a rookie on what was a stinker of a team who was 3-13-1 just one year prior is hella great play. As an Eagles fan, CJ has to be AT LEAST runner up or top 3. That’s just that
@gregorcollins
@gregorcollins 7 ай бұрын
i suppose@@saheruthepharaoh
@iamzae6123
@iamzae6123 7 ай бұрын
@@tearfulplayz4771win loss ratio is a players statistic. Especially for qbs. DJ stroud is awesome, but he 6-5.
@jimaltenbernd376
@jimaltenbernd376 7 ай бұрын
Unfortunately it is the record,otherwise Josh Allen would be in the conversation
@daylanty11
@daylanty11 7 ай бұрын
No one talks about the Bills defensive be the most in clutch defense in the league
@vincente4570
@vincente4570 7 ай бұрын
U😂
@jimaltenbernd376
@jimaltenbernd376 7 ай бұрын
Sarcasm...nice
@Waterbottlebandit831
@Waterbottlebandit831 7 ай бұрын
Bruh Tyreek deserves more MVP respect. Any team you put him on os gonna be substantially better
@brittanybrown1633
@brittanybrown1633 7 ай бұрын
Jalen is that dude for sure 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
@stephenjohn841
@stephenjohn841 7 ай бұрын
Unpopular opinion: Jason Kelce is the real reason the Eagles won.
@bishopsteiner7134
@bishopsteiner7134 7 ай бұрын
Of course Shady is stanning Hurts. And of course, ATM? Hurts is playing as good as any QB... thing is... the QBs have been..underwhelming this season. ALL OF THEM. Still got a few weeks to change that, but Tyreek, McCaffrey, Trent Williams, Myles Garrett SHOULD be the conversation, but we know it's a QB award.
@UnexpectedWonder
@UnexpectedWonder 7 ай бұрын
He's not playing as good as some other QBs.
@D.ocument.The.Journey
@D.ocument.The.Journey 7 ай бұрын
Facts they needa have a best qb award and mvp shouldn’t be so bias for qb theirs plenty of non qbs who should’ve won
@suzeray87
@suzeray87 7 ай бұрын
@@UnexpectedWonderevery QB that faces Eagles don’t play good enough… except Zach Wilson 😂😂
@TheForbiddenOne55
@TheForbiddenOne55 7 ай бұрын
​@@D.ocument.The.Journey1000% agreed. These other positions need more recognition. CMC, Garrett, and Watt are straight terrors on the field and deserve to actually get a shot to win MVP
@ryanscott9625
@ryanscott9625 7 ай бұрын
Your putting all those names in front on Brock Purdy!?? Why because he was last in the draft, his stats are in a different world, even compared that jack hole hurts
@icharannflowers540
@icharannflowers540 7 ай бұрын
We took their best punch and weather the storm Fly Eagles Fly
@david-ug4qc
@david-ug4qc 7 ай бұрын
I've never seen a dude get so much props for loosing games like Josh Allen
@reroctherapper4983
@reroctherapper4983 7 ай бұрын
Because no QB in history has done as much and been let down by everyone around him. Like not even close.
@Endzoneproductions17
@Endzoneproductions17 7 ай бұрын
He’s not getting many props
@mikelock5033
@mikelock5033 7 ай бұрын
Refs in Philly get hands down MVP.
@nat3dgr34t
@nat3dgr34t 7 ай бұрын
Your really dumb stop hating bro
@michaeld_68
@michaeld_68 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely do .
@randomanton
@randomanton 7 ай бұрын
🍼👶
@deondrenickson
@deondrenickson 7 ай бұрын
Shady thought he was in the end zone fr 😂
@jockoadams3377
@jockoadams3377 7 ай бұрын
In football, individual stats are great. Passing yards, completions, etc. But the most important stat of all is Ws and Ls. Hurts is a guy who no matter what the games looks like... he's looking to get the win and doing everything he has to do to make it happen. Hurts has his own style, but he's becoming clutch like Brady or Manning. The guy is an escape artist.
@001Khy
@001Khy 7 ай бұрын
Dak is currently tied for 3rd with Lamar at +600
@Renegade-kf8fp
@Renegade-kf8fp 7 ай бұрын
That’s would be a interesting
@z-mane1438
@z-mane1438 7 ай бұрын
He’s tied for 4th (tua)
@mr.brooks9802
@mr.brooks9802 7 ай бұрын
No Dak? It’s either Dak or Hurts for MVP right now
@delwinalvarez8086
@delwinalvarez8086 7 ай бұрын
Hurts ain't in the MVP talk. Right now, it should be Dak. His QBR, TDs, TD to INT ratio, and yards speak for themselves
@antdakid204
@antdakid204 7 ай бұрын
⁠@@delwinalvarez8086jalen hurts when trailing or tied in the 2nd half 1st in QBR 1st in passing Tds 2nd in yards per attempt 1st in completion % 1st in passer rating Dak can stuff the stat sheet all he wants but when the game is on the line Hurts steps up while dak wilts to the pressure.
@asundelgun3487
@asundelgun3487 7 ай бұрын
​​@@antdakid204too bad there is a thing called the FIRST HALF...now put up Hurts stats for the WHOLE game. This isn't a question about who is better or who is more clutch. Is a question of who is more valuable to their team. And if Dak was playing like Hurts is the cowboys would have a losing record. If Hurts was playing like Dak is the eagles would be undefeated and would have the largest margin of victory in league history
@mr.brooks9802
@mr.brooks9802 7 ай бұрын
@@asundelgun3487 hurts in the convo. He has 30 TDs on the season and his team has the best record
@delwinalvarez8086
@delwinalvarez8086 7 ай бұрын
@antdakid204 I like how you just had to span these numbers but can't refute the actual numbers that also matter. Ya dog Dak for his picks last year, but are excusing Hurts. Stop moving the goal post
@apriltiff6452
@apriltiff6452 7 ай бұрын
Jalen is 💯💯💯 the fortitude he has is 🤯
@PurpleCatte
@PurpleCatte 7 ай бұрын
Just to put some context on Jalen for MVP, because James Jones said Jalen doesn't have the stats. Acho has Mahomes as his second for MVP. If we compare the stats between the two: Patrick Mahomes - 2917 yards | 7.1 yards per attempt | 68.1 completion % | 21 TD (passing) | 9 interceptions | 96.3 QBR Jalen Hurts - 2697 yards | 7.5 yards per attempt | 67.6 completion % | 18 TD (passing) | 10 interceptions | 94.9 QBR I know we don't look at this for QBs, but Jalen has 11 rushing TDs and 4 lost fumbles, while Patty has 0 rushing TDs and 2 lost fumbles. Even ignoring the rushing stats (because we ALWAYS ignore them for QBs), The difference between Pat and Jalen is 220 yards, 3 TDs, and 1 interception? Tua is far and above both of them in stats yet is third on Acho's. Tua Tagovailoa - 3100+ yards | 8.4 yards per attempt | 69.8 completion % | 22 TD (passing) | 10 interceptions | 103.7 QBR If stats were what determine the MVP alone, Tua should be first on the list based on Acho's rankings, but that's not what it is because Tyreek Hill exists. If Patrick is up there, and him and Jalen aren't THAT far apart in stats (not even including Jalen's 11 rushing TDs and yards which would put him at a comfortable 3007 yards and 29 TDs), then I think Jalen deserves to be in that space.
@Toketree
@Toketree 7 ай бұрын
Joy is always so on point man, she dgaf about that flashy nonsense. She understand that literally ALL that matters is that W.
@derikmedrano3589
@derikmedrano3589 7 ай бұрын
“A win is a win” only applies to the Eagles apparently. When Dallas was blowing teams out with the defense it was, dak this dak that, the offense can’t score. And now that Dallas is blowing people out it’s “well look at the competition. When Philly went to the wire with a lot of teams they shouldn’t have
@kingmunk9485
@kingmunk9485 7 ай бұрын
Except when it comes to the bills and josh Allen. When they lose it’s ok because the talent and flash keep her believing in them 😂
@deshondrehigginbotham506
@deshondrehigginbotham506 7 ай бұрын
Now if purdy had the best record she wouldn’t be saying that. She glaze the eagles constantly. Think about it. When was the last time she criticized the eagles for anything..,
@josemadriz5716
@josemadriz5716 7 ай бұрын
Bills a great team?! They’re 6-6!!
@phillyjackson45
@phillyjackson45 7 ай бұрын
We also beat them when they were over .500, stop letting the records fool you scrub 😂
@josemadriz5716
@josemadriz5716 7 ай бұрын
@@phillyjackson45 haha now you’re talking about the past? I’m sure you cry about your father mahomes taking the ring from your poverty franchise.
@delwinalvarez8086
@delwinalvarez8086 7 ай бұрын
​@phillyjackson45 you a clown. The Cowboys beat the Jets when they were 1-0. Stop moving the goal posts
@michaelp5511
@michaelp5511 7 ай бұрын
Best line of this show hands down was touchdown blouses 😂😂 make em some pancakes
@cpimpmr
@cpimpmr 7 ай бұрын
They all on Philly jock today, I saw a bunch of no calls that would've been called on other teams that helped also. It was a good game. But Philly got away with more than 6 defensive penalties and a drop fumble that was called back, and the same thing happened in the Ravens game, and the Ravens got the ball. Josh didn't connect. Okay. But I also saw I guy get held RIGHT in front of the ref two plays before, and it was a no call. 😅
@rolondoholmes1845
@rolondoholmes1845 7 ай бұрын
It’s hillarious how the teams with the least amount of championships are the ones who talk the most , eagles are bottom feeders on a little hot streak
@user-tl4nl2dz4m
@user-tl4nl2dz4m 7 ай бұрын
Funny how the idiot brigade thinks past championships are relevant in the current season.
@birdgang4029
@birdgang4029 7 ай бұрын
We are literally fighting hard. Most games especially when trailing, There’s been a lot of holes offensively and finding a way to win.
@diehardeaglesfansince1994
@diehardeaglesfansince1994 7 ай бұрын
What people also fail to mention is that he is currently going up against crazy opposing quarterback performances and numbers because our passing defense is so bad
@JoseSanchez-tn1bt
@JoseSanchez-tn1bt 7 ай бұрын
So for the bills now morale victories count??😂😂
@elijahspencer-burt967
@elijahspencer-burt967 7 ай бұрын
Well they did for the cowboys
@brandoncamper2420
@brandoncamper2420 7 ай бұрын
​@@elijahspencer-burt967Cowboys gotta take whatever they can get. Dallas is about to lose out 🤷🏿
@asundelgun3487
@asundelgun3487 7 ай бұрын
​@@brandoncamper2420you're a bigger idiot than you seem if you believe that
@seanguitarman5594
@seanguitarman5594 7 ай бұрын
Heyyy, as a Bills fan, you learn to take what you can get lol. I have a franchise QB to look forward to, worst case scenario. Could be worse, coulda been born a Jets fan 🤣
@caughtinthevoidfloyd5821
@caughtinthevoidfloyd5821 7 ай бұрын
Hurts didnt beat Mahomes. The chiefs had 8 dropped passes. One to win the game. Bills.missed a wide open reciever to win the game also
@RyDaHero10
@RyDaHero10 7 ай бұрын
Mahomes should've put the team in his back then if he's so great. Hurts did with his legs.
@user-qw7xq7ni9p
@user-qw7xq7ni9p 7 ай бұрын
Uh, yeah he did. 14 pts in 2nd half. Plus Chiefs been dropping passes all season. Every analyst talked about every day. Your r whon5hey say u r.
@antdakid204
@antdakid204 7 ай бұрын
If I remember Hurts had 1:48 left on the clock to go down and score. And in case u didn’t know Hurts is the clutchest qb in the league rn.
@go_birds3307
@go_birds3307 7 ай бұрын
Hurts did beat Mahomes. 10-1
@jillherring3260
@jillherring3260 7 ай бұрын
Mahomes beat Hurts in the superbowl
@keyolive1053
@keyolive1053 7 ай бұрын
if hurts is leading away with the map then Purdy is the GOAT, lmao. Crazy take for an equally crazy take.
@davionanderson6723
@davionanderson6723 7 ай бұрын
I’m a Eagles fan but honestly I believe CJ Shroud should definitely be up there as well
@WellWhyNot-lj8uf
@WellWhyNot-lj8uf 7 ай бұрын
Can Lamar not be mentioned with Hurts, Mahomes, or Burrow. Lamar has not proven it in the playoffs for him to be mentioned with those guys
@jordinmcmillan6625
@jordinmcmillan6625 7 ай бұрын
Lamar hasn’t proven it? Or the ravens as a team haven’t?..Let’s not act like Lamar was provided any of the weapons all those QBs were gifted
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