The first BOSTON album, hands down!

Boston, The Doors and The Cars debuts are perfection from start to finish

The first Black Sabbath album is the best debut album and also my favorite album of all albums ever made, fully formed or not.

I think it's mainly because of the production. Beautifully recorded and produced for the time.

Abit different but the Ramones self-titled was very fully formed and was very very influencial at the time and still.

I agree that Led Zep #1 is fully formed and may be their best. Even more so for a 1st album is the Doors! This is fully developed and classic Doors! And May also be their very best! The Doors!

Van Halen, The Cars, and Boston are also very strong.

Would you throw in The Doors debut in this discussion?

Interesting discussion / show, gentlemen, as usual 👍🏻 Thank you! My choice: the first King Crimson album "ITCOTCK" that is obvious I think 🙂 Fully introduced the band's unique style in this kind of music. And that riff in the beginning, we know 🙂

Really enjoyed this discussion

Zeppelin 1 ❤ couldn't agree more. Dazed and Confused!!! My god. The POWER of that 🎵 Incredible

Love a bass player and drummer talking music ! Good job boys 💪

May I suggest the incredible KZfaq channel of JCM- Led Zeppelin Stories. This guy put a ton of archives from late '60's and now is in 1994 for the episode of last saturday. For rock fans and Led Zep fans it's a must see ! Great discussion here !!! Thank you Lair and Pete !

i knew about your channel but I didn't know you had Popoff gravitas. That'll get you some free refills at Tim Horton's for sure.

The first ELP album is a pretty well-realized debut.

The Doors. Van Halen. Boston. The JImi Hendrix Experience. The Cars. Lynyrd Skynyrd. And maybe CCR and Blondie.

The Ramones first album. That’s exactly what they would look and sound like.

Historically speaking yes. The musical roots of the album and Led Zeppelin as a project can be traced 10 years prior. :)

Blues covers abound on this album which is difficult to asses many decades later. For me there are numerous albums that supersede Zep's debut due to the overwhelming 'borrowing' from other artists. Montrose, Van Halen, Wishbone Ash, Stray, Santana, BOC, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Riverside to name but a few.

Martin, I can't believe you didn't offer up the first Max Webster album from 1976!! Everything you need to know about that band is there on that self-titled debut ...

Are You Experienced by The Jimi Hendrix Experience

The Doors and Boston

Great Show.....I would say QUEEN 1 In 1973 got there sound right off the bat. Queen 2 and Sheer heart attack in 1974........Amazing start to a long career. They lost me in 1980. Great seeing you and Martin together.......

Late to the discussion on this, but Mercyful Fate came out of the gate fully realized and steamrolled everybody.

Can’t agree, too many blues covers. Boston, Black Sabbath and Van Halen immediately spring to mind 🤷🏻‍♂️

It’s a great album, gets overshadowed by some albums after being even better. It would be one of the most fully formed. Kiss and van halen also fully formed.

First Boston album?

I would have to agree that Led Zeppelin I is the most fully formed debut of the 60s and 70s, ruling out bands who got off to a great start and then spiraled into oblivion very quickly (Montrose, Angel, Moxy, Legs Diamond, Starz). I'm also going to rule out albums like Gamma 1 which was made by already seasoned musicians at the time of its release. I am also against the likes of Heep and VH here, even though those are extraordinary debuts. Heep's debut is great, but "Gypsy" stands head and shoulders above the remainder of ...Very 'eavy...Very 'umble in terms of production, and I would, actually cannot consider VH fully formed on their debut because they have three covers on it. Personally, I find KISS and Max Webster have what I consider the most fully formed debuts. Budgie and Queen I consider right up behind, because Budgie, although not having as technical of a sound as they would soon muster, basically have their album format and their musical tendencies and sound down from .0, and Queen, despite having many sounds, nails their heavy metal sound as combined with progressive rock, right out of the gate. Most heavy metal bands of the 70s do not have a good or great first album though. Rush, Nazareth, Judas Priest, Scorpions, Thin Lizzy, Sweet, Aerosmith, and UFO have pretty mediocre debuts, and really, there are many one-and-done (or close to it) albums of the 70s by much more underground acts that I consider vastly superior to what these classic acts did with their first albums. The likes of Lucifer's Friend, Leaf Hound, Bang, Black Widow, Hard Stuff, Toad, Bow Wow, Murasaki, Cool Feet, Desiree, Teaze, Alkana, Marseille, Legend, Trust, and Silvertrain. Another observation I have is that progressive bands typically don't have great debuts, and usually don't have very good follow-ups to the debuts. I'm talking about the classic prog bands. But by nature of being progressive, that raises the question: is their sound even capable of being fully formed on the first album? Lastly, I should add, I do love Led Zeppelin's debut, it's my favorite Zeppelin album, but I do think that the point of it being the most fully formed album of this approximate 10-year period of rock music is very difficult to challenge, because it does have all the ingredients that Zeppelin would become and is known for: acoustic guitars, the sweet high vocals of Robert Plant, the whittly riffs of Page, the power drumming of Bonham, the proto-heavy metal, the blues. I will concede the production quality as being poor. Anyway, being a band such as Zeppelin, to pursue so many musical directions in your career and have it all figured out from the starting line is beyond the ability of almost every band in history, which is probably what has caused them to become so immortalized.

Queen, Van Halen, Cars, Boston, The Doors, Montrose, ELP, Angel, Jimi Hendrix Experience, King Crimson, Sex Pistols, Lucifer's Friend, and Cheap Trick come immediately to mind.

The Beatles Please Please Me March 1963 #1 (8 months)

Boston’s first album is pretty great too.

The first Lynyrd Skynyrd and The Doors albums fit the most complete fully formed debut album.

King crimson, the Doors and Boston!

A lot of good ones mentioned, would throw out zztop for consideration.

I’d go Boston and the Cars.

The Stooges did five albums. There's also The Weirdness (2007) and Ready to Die (2013).

I think the obvious choice was Boston and I think they actually arrive more fully formed than Zeppelin. Boston never really evolved at all from the sound of the first album. They seem as though they've wrestled with trying to replicate it album after album and it also seemed to get harder to do over the course of their career. The painstakingly long process Tom Scholz used to create his music took a toll on the band itself costing them essential players that made the Boston sound in the first place. Starting with losing Barry Goudreau and eventually losing Brad Delp the voice of the Boston sound. Van Halen's debut was a good one but, I don't feel like anything that sounds like 1984 on through Sammy and VH III is on the debut so, I think they did evolve to another different level of songwriters and players.

What about the first Ramones album,gentlemen?

Jeff beck TRUTH album to me is more ground breaking by far

Led Zeppelin 1 & 2 weren't released in the 1970s. They were both released in 1969.

The Velvet Underground and Nico is the greatest debut in rock history, no contest. Mick Jagger - for one - said the reason Street Fighting Man and Stray Cat Blues rock so hard was the last two minutes of Heroin - he said it allowed them to go to that squalling intense place. The Doors comes close for sure.

Led Zeppelin I thats a start they are there but anyway a great album A Lot of great albums from Led Zeppelin SUPER BAND at the start. Jimmie Page know what he want`s so.... Led Zeppelin crew YES

the first boston album.

Ah, Seventies. ;) I'd prefer Black Sabbath's debut.

Iron Maiden and Allman bros debut

No. Too many covers of songs from black blues men who did not get credit at first and had to sue to get credit on reissues. Also with Dazed and Confused Jake Holmes did not get credit and had to sue.

Cheap Trick debut

Boston's first for the 70s, and The Doors first for the 60s.

It's unbelievable how many albums Pink Floyd took to "find their sound." The "industry" or what's left of it these days, chews up artists and spits them out faster than they can mature.

I personally would go with the first Van Halen, Black Sabbath or Montrose album over Led Zeppelin. The first Led Zeppelin album should be called Plagiarism.

Led Zeppelin 1 ..bad company 1 Foreigner 1 and Queen 1 for me

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