If he took 8m it might work. You could surround him with grinders and let him just be a setup guy.

@@people3865 They demanded max dollar last time, nothing will change this time. He's never taking $8 million

@@shootermcgavin3077 No, I don't think he is either. But, a man can dream lol

100%

1000%

With the unlimited purse strings MLSE has someone has to stand up and put the Marner camp in place. Who will it be.

@@lindsaydoke9308: unfortunately, no one within MLSE will do that and Marner has a perfect argument in his defense. "YOU GAVE THE MONEY TO THE OTHER GUYS". So, either Shanahan will extend Marner at a number near Auston and Willy or he will force Marner to accept a trade. The problem will be as follows: 1) if you don't extend Marner, he will come back with a terrific personal best final year, head into free agency and the Leaf's will get NOTHING for him. 2) they will work out a trade for him during the summer, be forced to retain 50% of his contract, get next to nothing in return and still have a cap problem. 3) sign marner for over $11 million and waste whatever window that Auston and Willy give them and commit Leaf's fans to the same results for the next four years at least.

Lmao should have thought about that years ago when you gave in to nylander. Nylander screwed you hard.

@Spike10111, totally agree with you about the Nylander contract. Personally I think besides Matthews, they’re all overpaid. To put it just on Marner isn’t right. I mean he definitely needs to be better, but a bunch of them do. I mean we pay Reilly over 7 million, like a #1 defensemen and he’s not. Maybe a #3 or 4. Tavares is getting paid 11 million a year. I would personally approach those two about waiving their NTC first. Then move on to Marner. Any of the contending teams don’t pay more than 2 guys over 10 million.

Who is giving a top 4D for Mitch?

@@people3865🎯

Trade Marner and you won't see the playoffs for another decade. In fact, now that Keefe has been fired, you won't have to worry...you won't see Toronto win the cup for at least a decade. When a coach gets fired it triggers a rebuild as the new coach has different players in mind. If we make the playoffs at all in the next decade it will be a miracle. And ask yourself...did Treliving build a Stanley Cup in Calgary? We just got a major downgrade.

@@scruffybearbreaks8774 Salty Flames fan much? Lmao

Nor does Matthews.

It's not just his playoff points, it's his general playoff play. He plays like he's terrified out there. In contrast, does anyone think that Marner can score a goal like Miles Wood did in OT the other night for Colorado vs Dallas? The drive and will power to lean in and force that play, wow. Or even make an assist like Tavares had against Boston on what became a winning goal by Knies? Does anyone think Marner is capable of that type of play? No, not a chance. Marner isn't leaning into anyone--he hides in open ice away from the opposition when play gets tough and difficult.

If they can do that to Sundin (did they, I'm not sure) then Marner is fodder. Marner may be a prolific points producer, but there's more to a local hero than jus points production. Wendel, Dougy, Mats, all fan favourites but that Batman saying, live long enough to be a villain rings true. It doesn't matter how much you've done for the team, when it no longer suits their interests, you've gone from friend to foe.

​@MisterMister5893 All good players that never won a Stanley Cup with the leafs so what exactly was the comparison why because they are fan favorites they never brought the cup here either

Wouldn't it make more sense for Tavares, and if your answer is something along the lines of it's not worth it that should answer your question

@@patrickgoulet8170 Tavares makes contributions in faceoffs and defensive play, and he makes an effort. The play where he leaned in and setup the OT winning goal is something Marner never would do. Oh and who scored the goal last year to win Round 1? Is he worth 11 million at this point, no, but he contributes in tough games, which is much more than Marner does.

Now? He's still producing at a high level. If he accepts the Spezza Special, his father would commit him into the sanitarium.

@@MisterMister5893 Sanitarium just leave me alone 🎶

9.5M regular season player. 3.5M postseason player.

9-9.5

And u know this how 🤔😏🤷‍♂️

@@Woody13ify news

@@cbenjamin9220 yeh fake news 😏🙄

@@Woody13ify national post, brother. Not fake at all.

He can be traded and still walk to free agency. Getting traded doesn't change that. Not that he will, but I wish he would.

@@Attix_Niche which contender is trading for him because why would he go anywhere else

What can they afford oh let me guess another year of overpaid underwhelming goaltending poorly coached players or a.glaring lack of team defense and structure but ya let's blame a player that yes makes huge money to put points on the board well he does that what I gather from all the other fans is you all expect him to put the team on his back and drag them to a cup with shitty team defense and really bad goaltending and a coach who really shouldn't be coaching a team in the nhl playoffs to begin with let's look at the whole picture here Marner is not the problem we'll not the biggest problem the leafs have got to stop paying for broken players and aging players that are nearing retirement. Do that and you might save enough money to pay for some team defense maybe a proper 3rd liner not a run of the mill spot filler

@@darrelldart4573 obviously never played the game, or any other team sport. Giving primacy to individual stats over team results or even in opposition to team results is the glaring problem. The reason the leafs have to resort to retreads and never will be’s is obvious. that is all they can afford when 4 players make over 50 % of the cap.

Oh that will work well. Sit one of your best players in the press box. Who will blink first lol. Plus, that will really make Toronto a destination. Marner will sit and wait for UFA. Toronto will miss playoffs in a year they have already traded their first round pick. I don’t think Toronto plans on punting the season.

@@garycochrane4829 they won’t miss the playoffs next year if they play hardball with Mitch, I love the guy but he’s not a playoff performer and it’s clear he can’t handle the pressure in TO. This current generation of players are more concerned with how many sheets they can get and it’s not about the cup for most. A message needs to be sent to these players

Stupid. Good thing you're not running a team.

@@JoeG1975 The team played better as a whole while he was hurt during the regular season. The only thing that suffered was Matthews' goal scoring, but the players Matthews played with scored more. Team win.

Maybe not for 1 year, but after that Marner is unsigned. I'd love to see Mitch hit the open market to see how other teams really value him. I don't think he gets 10 million per year from anyone.

This doesn't fit the narrative they're currently pushing down people's throats so it won't gain much traction even though it's the truth

What team is dumb enough to do this? They don’t exist. The rest of the league has never valued Marner the way Leafs nation has. I seem to recall that players poll from teams around the league that players voted Marner as most overrated in the league. He’s an excellent, high end, soft skill perimeter winger who has a keen sense of getting a goal scorer the puck in the slot, excellent on the rush and skilled zone entries, but little to no intangibles and his value is halved in playoff hockey. Fans that have watched many years of playoff hockey will point out that the goals and assists that are scored in the regular season, are not the goals and assists scored in the playoffs. Goals aren’t coming from backhand toe dragging, cut backs, dipsy doodling past bottom feeder teams’ dmen, etc. Playoff goals are usually from chip and chase, extended o-zone time from cycling the puck, winning board battles, net front positioning, rebounds, 3rd chances, etc, Garbage goals. Goals resulting from sheer will and work.

@@chevelle1 a good GM can always find a possible trade u never know.

If they can get rid of his cap hit now, then they can use that to improve the team for next year instead of wasting a year to do it. Unless there's some d-man or goalie worth waiting a year for anyway??? Just to ask... But yes, it's highly unlikely they can get rid of him this year because I doubt he will waive his no trade.

… new Leafs head coach Hailey Wickenheiser … new GM / President Shane Doane Tre ding ding ding FIRED … made a lot of errors already signing Keefe and Nylander the most serious SHANNY - FIRED FIRED FIRED … if Keith Pelly does not FIRE SHANNY he loses all credibility and respect before he even gets started THE FANS HAVE HAD ENOUGH

Matthews is far superiorly defensively. The PK has been horrendous. Nylander has the best zone-entry numbers on the team. The PP disappeared at the most critical time. His secondary assists won't be missed.

Matthews literally just won the Selke.

You just described Toronto being petty and punting their season, in a year where they have already traded their first round pick. Have you ever seen a team do that for a star player?

You gonna put a 90-point player on the 3rd or 4th line? Talk about a stupid concept.

Yep… 6 minutes a game on the fourth line

He already strong-armed the leafs with his daddy, into signing his monster deal the first time. It will most likely happen again because Toronto is a spineless organization.

​@@garycochrane4829That wouldn't punt the season lol. They'd still easily make the playoffs. Probably in the exact same spot as this year.

If you keep these clowns together you can expect more of the same.

Judging analysts by their pro play is illogical. Some of the best hockey analysts have never played -- some of the best players are terrible at analyzing talent. It's two different skillsets. We don't hold other critics to this standard (e.g. we listen to movie critics who have never made a movie).

That's not an intelligent comment. Besides, hockey is not a hard sport to analyze and critique.

with this logic, your post is also irrelevant

You know nothing about hockey is this what you think about Marner and the core 4

@scruffy 110% disagree

Marner is 100% the best player of the core 4.

😂😂

If marner was the best in the core 4 where was he in the playoffs to help punch a ticket to the second round. Far as I'm concerned nylander showed up once again. Marner is a huge liability that they need to offload for bigger priorities!