Is My #1 Chair Pick Worth it?

Is My #1 Chair Pick Worth it? | Haworth Fern

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My favorite office chair right now is the Haworth Fern. But is it really worth $1500?
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Haworth Fern Halo Edition - haworth.pxf.io/Eao46e (Haworth)
Haworth Fern Mesh Back - haworth.pxf.io/P03KZM (Haworth)
Products Used in Desk Setup:
-Furniture
Kane Desk - bit.ly/3tgmjpz (BTOD)
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Ultimate Cable Management Box - bit.ly/3oofikH (BTOD)
Ergotron LX Monitor Arm - amzn.to/3EYna3l (Amazon)
-Tech
Beelink Mini PC - amzn.to/3H7Sgbt (Amazon)
Sanyun Speakers - amzn.to/3FoaCnh (Amazon)
Logitech MX Keys Keyboard - amzn.to/3B8bb1U (Amazon)
Logitech MX Master 3S - amzn.to/3HoBvJp (Amazon)
Shure MV7 Limited Edition Mic - amzn.to/3XQQdOR (Amazon)
BenQ ScreenBar Monitor Light - amzn.to/3gUtOQ6 (Amazon)
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Kanto Headphone Stand - amzn.to/3iy3XOz (Amazon)
Kanto Speaker Stands - amzn.to/3EVxlFX (Amazon)
Samson Mic Boom Arm - amzn.to/3Uoni1D (Amazon)
Gallaway Leather Desk Mat - amzn.to/3Fol4eD (Amazon)
-Other
Fake Snake Plant Floorstand - amzn.to/3B2rvkQ (Amazon)
Britful Fake 16" Snake Plant - amzn.to/3EXnFuE (Amazon)
6.5" Artificial Grass Plant - amzn.to/3B5wIsg (Amazon)
Geometric Design Woven Rug - bit.ly/3VrFj0l (Target)
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@StardustLegacyFighter Жыл бұрын

It's such a shame that the best version of this chair still isn't available in the UK. I would have at least loved to try it out, and see if this would be a better alternative to the Aeron.

@Huzzo91 Жыл бұрын

Kind of long shot, but gotta try. So i just got mine in eu, and it's all good exept the seat depth cable is loose. Any idea on how could I tighten it? I can manually pull the lever, but I would like to have the actual button for it work

@alahoma Жыл бұрын

is it worth upgrade for the digital knit? Is it that much better than mesh?

@MahDryBread Жыл бұрын

I got one of these about 3 months ago on your recommendation and I haven't regret a moment of it. Great chair!

@yenjun0204 Жыл бұрын

Sorry to bother you. Did you get the one with the headset? I am also considering this chair, but two KZfaqrs do not suggest getting the headset.

@MahDryBread Жыл бұрын

@@yenjun0204 Hey! I personally went with no headrest. I was a little worried since I used to always have a headrest, but honestly I totally prefer it without one now

@Rediblackdragon 8 ай бұрын

Why are you everywhere I look? Also I'm taking your advice, thanks ♡

@Wetterwet 5 ай бұрын

Did you get forward tilt and the extra lumbar? I am thinking about getting one without those options, but debating

@MahDryBread 5 ай бұрын

@@Wetterwet No extra lumbar in mine. I like it, although I've never sat in one with the extra lumbar support so I don't know if I'd like it more or not. I think I don't have forward tilt? Unless that's sliding the seat forward, I can do that.

@Younghoon15 Ай бұрын

How breathable is the digital knit? Being a warm body especially during the summers, should I get the mesh or digital knit?

@AsianThunder0 Жыл бұрын

Can you do a video reviewing some active chairs? Like the QOR360 chair vs Varier vs Core Chair?

@BenPuckett 9 ай бұрын

Have you been able to try one of the Atlas headrests with this yet?

@chitterlingsrtasty Жыл бұрын

Love my fern. Have had it since feb and it is starting to break in nice. Thanks for all the vids about it. I was lucky to get an open box from Wayfair. 663 for the basic chair

@braaitongs 4 ай бұрын

I tried the Fern today and it was amazing. I also tried the Zody and Steelcase leap, generation, think and series 2, HM cosm, aeron and embody. My favourites are the Fern and Cosm. I have to decide now. One thing I did confirm was the digitial Knit is only available in the US which is total bs. Why only the US gets this? SO I will have to get the FErn with no digital knit.

@themarshallfox Жыл бұрын

It’s absolutely a tank! The digital knit is a must! I love my Ferns. Great video.

@btodtv Жыл бұрын

Do you have more Ferns than us...haha :) -Greg

@themarshallfox Жыл бұрын

@@btodtv Absolutely not lol. Just 2.

@StardustLegacyFighter Жыл бұрын

Lol, I still remember replying to your video about Haworth not being on the same level as Herman Miller and Steelcase. But it's fair to say that at the time, I had never seen the Digital Knit configuration. I think Haworth has smashed it out of the park with that fabric, I hope it was available in Europe.

@innocentrage1 Жыл бұрын

Marshall Fox is the real OG! Hes the reason the Fern was even on my radar when I was chair shopping

@Zebpro Жыл бұрын

I love my Fern, got it brand new in full black, with runner mesh (40/0999) for backrest and xtreme (82/0009) for seat, fully loaded except headrest for 1175€ shipping included here in France. 😊 Thanks for all your comparison videos, I wanted to invest with no budget limit in a good office chair at home for my back health as I'm working fully from there now (thanks Covid 😛).

@Elvewizzy. 10 ай бұрын

Where did U buy it?

@georgepierre3594 Жыл бұрын

Who her ehas tried both the embody and fern? Which is better for someone with very big legs. 210lbs, but my legs are the same size as someone 300lbs. (muscle). Height around 6'1

@MKequilibrium 5 ай бұрын

I've got fern and it's silent when you upgrade the noisy wobbling hand rests. Take them out from the chair base sleeves (you need to push from the bottom) and then insert a small plastic (1,5-2mm thick) in between the sleeves and the arm rest inserts to fill the gap. You can also use a duck tape to tighten the inserts because they are from 2 parts so you could take the arm rests out but since they are not tight the whole arm rests are wobbly and noisy. When you duck tape the two parts together the arms rests are then sturdy and make no noise. If you have lumbar and it starts to make squeaking noises you need to take the fabric down then the front mesh then the lumbar pillow and then you put some vaseline on the metal moving parts of the lumbar. Then you put everything back together and it's like new.

@drizzt8965 5 ай бұрын

Are they all wobbly like that?

@michaellieberman9419 2 ай бұрын

But is there enough support without the lumbar add on?

@coolvinay Жыл бұрын

I ended up buying the fern in Australia from officeworks priced around 1000 AUD. Unfortunately, they are selling garbage here. To save on cost they are selling basic model. The handles squeak like there are rats living in it and they are fixed (Not 4D). No lumbar support either. The worst part is the gas lift. Everytime I sit on it, it will be fine, but all of a sudden it sinks by half an inch with a jerk - Super annoying. I asked officeworks to switch the chair for me and they gladly did. The second chair has the same problem. Pathetic quality control. The 10$ used chair I picked up from FB market seems better built. Unfortunately due to lack of good ergonomic chairs in the market, I am going to have to keep it.

@hendrik8673 Жыл бұрын

Oh, that sounds similar to the european haworth experience. What a shitty company :(

@StardustLegacyFighter Жыл бұрын

It's really disappointing to see that Haworth doesn't give a shit about customers outside of North America.

@bennoske5924 Жыл бұрын

@coolvinay I'm from Australia considering buying this chair. Should I not? Also Can you just remove the armrests?

@albertwesker2050 5 ай бұрын

What do you consider tall? I’m right under 5’11” which is in between being considered tall. I’d imagine I’m safe, but what do you think?

@mrsplosh999 9 ай бұрын

I went on a little tour of Herman miller, Haworth and Steel Series. I'm 6'1 (186cm), broad. - Zody feels too small - Aeron size C felt PERFECT - Embody felt good, but seat was lacking in comfort compared to the Aeron - Mirra was not good overall, worse than both Embody and Aeron - Fern felt great, BUT... if you're tall, you will need to pull out the seat to lengthen the base. This leaves a little gap at the back of the chair, and it's noticeably annoying/uncomfortable having a 3 inch gap at the back of the seat where your bum is supposed to be. Shame because other than that the quality and comfort of the chair was insane. - leap v2 was good but didn't overtake Aeron Overall gonna get the Aeron. The size C was insanely comfortable, many functions (more than fern), fully adjustable back, smooth rocking, perch function (good if you're an illustrator like me). Just incase any tall people are watching 😁

@gjdriessen1 8 ай бұрын

Thx a lot. I hate a gap as well

@supaflymo 5 ай бұрын

Can you give us an update on how this is working out? I’m 6’2” broad and was going through the same “tour.” I wa settled on Aeron but then heard the seat was too firm.

@Dudeman9339 4 ай бұрын

Really? I bought a C size Aeron and I'm 5'10 285lbs. Though I have the torso of someone 6 feet. It doesnt support me in the slightest. The mesh seat just squeezes my hips together as I sink into it. They say it can support up to 350lbs but there is no way the seat wont be completely stretched. THEY ALSO WONT RESPOND TO MY EMAILS ABOUT A RETURN. I requested a return within the 30 day period and HM didnt respond until I messaged a week later, also within the 30 day period. They told me they'd send me a shipping label (I told them I needed a label and a box) and they havent sent me anything 2 months later and they wont respond to my emails or take calls from my phone number. SCREW HERMAN MILLER.

@Dudeman9339 4 ай бұрын

@@supaflymo the aeron is a very bouncy mesh seat. If you weigh more than 220 lbs it will be a nightmare.

@terrance9043 2 ай бұрын

@@Dudeman9339What chair did you end up going with ?

@michaellieberman9419 2 ай бұрын

Got one with digi knit and lumbar. The lumbar was a big upset, I sold it. I was thinking of trying another one without lumbar. Worried there won’t be enough lumbar support…

@homicidaloakley Жыл бұрын

Could you please review Uplift desk's ergonomic chairs? I can't find a single review of the uplift envoke, and I'd like to know if it's too good to be true

@midwayjona Жыл бұрын

Hey guys, I'm looking for a really good chair, but I can't decide between Fern (Dig knit. lumbar, no headrest), Embody, and Aeron (Size C, fully loaded), already tried all of them for a very short period of time, like 20minutes, no trial period around my area sadly, so gotta stick with my first choice. I'm 6'4", 245lbs, sit pretty normal, pretty standard height proportions. Having some mild lumbar pain recently, I think my chair can't hold me anymore, my actual posture is really bad. (Gym actually fixing my back pain) All of the chairs felt so comfortable, never sat in a high-end chair before, so I don't even know which one to pick, any advice.

@AnarchJim Жыл бұрын

Hey team, I'm 6'5.5" and I'm in need of a good quality desk chair as I work and study at a desk most hours each day. I was hopeful that'd be the Fern but I guess not then. What recommendation might you have? The Gesture didn't work for me unfortunately.

@NealS40 Жыл бұрын

I am 6'5" and sit in a Fern chair every day and am very comfortable

@mathieubellavance2506 8 ай бұрын

Love my fern with headrest and back support, got mine from a reseller at much cheaper price than from Haworth itself

@alexmartin6561 Жыл бұрын

Wish you tried out the atlus headrest with the adapter for the fern.

@macgruber75 Жыл бұрын

where do you find the Fern adaptor?

@mcxopjesh 11 ай бұрын

What chair does robert use? I am really considering this one, but if there is a chair as good as this one but for tall people (I'm 6'1") I'd like to know

@btodtv 10 ай бұрын

Robert is currently sitting in a Lamia -Greg

@mcxopjesh 10 ай бұрын

It looks like it has a short back, does he use a headrest?

@jelopezta 10 ай бұрын

Bit of an old video but worth a shot. I'm 5' 5''. Would the Fern be recommended for this height? I'm between this one (with digital knit) and a HM Sayl (I know, quite different price ranges)

@btodtv 10 ай бұрын

This should fit your height -Greg

@jelopezta 10 ай бұрын

@@btodtv thanks!

@jesuschrist1501 9 ай бұрын

Hey, do you think the all leather version comfortable just like the knitted version? I see no review of the leather version anywhere and it is a bit expensive more but I prefer something that is very durable and easy to clean but I also want something that is comfortable for the next 7 - 10 years. Thanks!

@JamieMacFlint 9 ай бұрын

I recently got the leather version used, even trade for an Embody! So far, i have no complaints on the leather. Easy to clean, feels good, and looks awesome! i have seen complaints of heat trapping after a few hours, but i haven't had that issue myself.

@chickenbabyman 7 ай бұрын

I have vegan leather (Wellington fabric) and I find it quite comfortable. I returned a second chair I had bought with Brisa fabric because it was thinner, looked less attractive and less like leather, and seemed like it could be less durable compared to the one I already had with Wellington. I have never tried the digital knit so can't compare to it, but am very happy with the Wellington fabric and recommend it over Brisa. Looks great, attractive, easy to clean.

@jesuschrist1501 7 ай бұрын

thanks, i already returned my fern, i think its an overhyped chair, not for me really.@@chickenbabyman

@innocentrage1 Жыл бұрын

Just got it, love it and so glad I went with the fern! Was gonna get a herman Miller but after that CEO video of her saying her employees shouldn't get bonuses, fuck her and her over priced chair. Ill keep loving my fern.

@StardustLegacyFighter Жыл бұрын

I still don't have any issues with the brand tbh, but a vile person like her should have no business being the CEO. The amount of money the company made during the pandemic, because of WFH, was astounding. How on Earth that doesn't warrant a generous bonus for the employees is beyond me. She needs to be sacked.

@brandonburk9230 Жыл бұрын

Hi, I've been watching your videos for a good few months now and you guys present some good information. But for the life of me I can't seem to understand why these plastic ergonomic chairs are recommended over the executive style leather chairs? The build quality and comfort seems so lackluster for the price to quality ratio vs a really nice executive chair retailing for just over 500$. Alot of those same chairs offer lumbar and ergonomic features as well? Is there a reason you never address them that I have missed?

@StardustLegacyFighter Жыл бұрын

If you knew anything about proper high-end office chairs, you'd know that they have the best build quality in the industry. Unlike those totally superficial leather executive chairs, these ergonomic chairs are packed with multiple ergonomic adjustments, and are specifically meant for tasking. Leather executive chairs are pretty much meant to look good, and only be comfortable for short periods of time, some may come with lumbar support, but it's usually pretty terrible. They don't have any ergonomic adjustments, e.g. seat depth adjustment, and they won't be appropriate for long hours of work. In terms of build quality, almost all the materials used by these high-end ergonomic chairs are amazing, ranging from the foam/mesh to the frame. Just because there's plastic on these chairs, it doesn't mean it's the same cheap and nasty plastic you find on much cheaper office chairs. For well reputable brands like Herman Miller, Steelcase, and Haworth, the warranty is provided is 12 years, rated for 24/7 use. Don't get me wrong, I love the look and feel of those executive leather chairs too (my favourite is the Interstuhl 362S), but they're not intended to be ergonomic.

@yohansharp3040 7 ай бұрын

@@StardustLegacyFighterhigh end plastic is not really a thing

@isseiweeb2364 Жыл бұрын

Got my fern chair yesterday and mostly everything is great the one thing I would want if it was an option would be a recline lock. other than that its a great chair.

@yenjun0204 Жыл бұрын

Sorry to bother you. Did you receive the one with the headset? I'm also considering this chair, but two KZfaqrs suggest not getting the headset.

@pwnzlikeme 5 ай бұрын

Looks like they come withcrecline lock as standard from the site

@Tanzara Жыл бұрын

Just ordered the steelcase refurbished amia through you guys. Very excited to try out my first non gaming racer chair! 😄

@btodtv Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the support! I am sitting in it right now :) -Greg

@Tanzara Жыл бұрын

@@btodtv It came in today, and I couldn't even tell it was refurbished! It's comfortable and perfect. You guys do amazing work and I love the videos.

@robinsonrojas5637 Жыл бұрын

Please test the chair "Vectra" by SitOnIt Seating

@nickmatv791 Жыл бұрын

I'd like to ask a question about the seat depth dealbreaker: I had the same issue with Steelcase Amia, I am 6.2 and have long legs, so I basically had to pull seat the furthest from the back and my buttocks just fell in that space. I returned it eventually. Now the question is: does the Aeron and Embody have the same issue?

@Dylansftp Жыл бұрын

You had the issue with the fern and amia?

@mrsplosh999 9 ай бұрын

Had exactly the same issue. I'm 6'1. Super comfy but once you pull out the seat which is NECESSARY, it's a deal-breaker.

@mrsplosh999 9 ай бұрын

It's funny you mentioned the Aeron. Literally today I went and tried all of the big hitter's and Aeron was by far the best. The size C will feel great, it feels like a comfortable throne, many functions and solid build, and your ass won't fall out. Go try it you'll see what I mean ;)

@nickmatv791 9 ай бұрын

@@mrsplosh999 wow, I ordered Aeron size C on ebay a week ago for 400$ classic 2007 year, which is a perfect deal for a size C, and Aerons are so durable the age shouldnt be a problem. Thanks for this comment, now I am anticipating even with bigger pleasure

@Stigness23 5 ай бұрын

My Fern is coming tomorrow, hoping i like it better than the Embody! 🤨

@BIGERNMcCrack Жыл бұрын

@btodtv do you know if Haworth ever does sales? 4th of July or anything?

@slicktheslickster 5 ай бұрын

Just bought...for $600! Looking forward to transform my sitting time, which is substantial!

@desiach4642 5 ай бұрын

Where did you buy it

@Kiznasty. 4 ай бұрын

@@desiach4642 Ebay has them for $600 open box

@pyr0sphere Жыл бұрын

Any chance you guys would be interested in covering the $25 Atlas Fern adapter for their Aeron headrest? Could be a big upgrade for the Fern configured with no headrest

@Nurhssein Жыл бұрын

I didn’t know there is a adapter for the fern. Where can i buy it?

@pyr0sphere Жыл бұрын

@@Nurhssein Atlas directly. Email them your order number and they'll attach it before shipping

@Nurhssein Жыл бұрын

@@pyr0sphere thanks for the answer. I already got a atlas Headrest for my Aeron. I want to sell my Aeron and keep the Headrest for the Fern. I contacted atlas and asked them if they sell the adapter solo.

@pyr0sphere Жыл бұрын

@@Nurhssein Google "Atlas Headrest Updates". Should be the first result. If you want to see how it looks

@Zanza007 Жыл бұрын

Is it fine for someone who is 6 ft 4in?

@NealS40 Жыл бұрын

Yes. I am 6'5" and sit in a Fern every day. Very comfortable.

@meat_loves_wasabi Ай бұрын

I think Haworth improve the QC.. just got one with Mesh… the base of the arms has legit no wobble at all

@rickgrimes4845 3 ай бұрын

Such a shame that Digital Knit is still not available in Europe... So I will order the regular mesh one

@hendrik8673 Жыл бұрын

I have a very bad experience with buying the Fern. It seems they have serious quality Management issues, at least in Germany/Europe. I had to sent 3 chairs back already, because they were very loud squeaking (recline function makes noise like an 50 year old chair from my already dead grandma..), the backrest did not fit good (you get them in 2 parts here, not fully assembled). Hoping the fourth chair is acceptable but it is getting depressing. Obviously beside that, i like the chair but i think, i will give up after the fourth try... in addition to that issue the Support just send me New chairs, i asked them more than one time, if i can repair it by myself. But no answer to that, just a new label for sending it back. The fourth time... It is absolutely ridiculous experience for such an expensive chair. At this point, they should just gift it to me... (at least they paid All the transport, should be round about 300 Euros now). So be aware of this, european buyers (seller was haworth shop...)

@miniDrew4 4 ай бұрын

What chair does Robert use?

@btodtv 4 ай бұрын

His two favorite are the Herman Miller Celle and Lamia -Greg

@miniDrew4 4 ай бұрын

@@btodtv thanks. I'm 6' 1" and like my Gesture, but I need another chair for another location that's preferably not over $1000.

@MKequilibrium 9 ай бұрын

I tried HM embody in a shop. It's really special. Is creaks and squeaks from every movement. It's such a terrible chair that I don't get how can someone use it - yes it was a showroom piece but nevertheless a chair for that price should never make so many noises it sounded worse than a chinese 100 chair. I make videos and stream so I need a silent chair and fern was the best - tried also SC gesture but fern is the best. I also like the headrest even though it's not very soft

@Svanir.80 Жыл бұрын

Huge fan of the Fern. Definitely worth the asking price.

@getoveryourself2212 Жыл бұрын

would you recommend it over the HM Aeron? is it good or great for the back?

@Svanir.80 Жыл бұрын

@@getoveryourself2212 most definitely, I do not like the Aeron personally.

@getoveryourself2212 Жыл бұрын

@@Svanir.80 how tall are you? I'm asking for myself to see if I might enjoy the chair like you do (Fern) I'm 5'7 - 5'8-ish I just don't want an accidentally TOO big of a chair

@Svanir.80 Жыл бұрын

@@getoveryourself2212 5’7”

@georgejimenez9747 Жыл бұрын

No one hasn't really mentioned this on KZfaq, but wouldn't the tilt function make it more comfortable for gamers. Especially when players lean forward to get a better look at the game. Correct me if I'm wrong.

@StardustLegacyFighter Жыл бұрын

I'm not sure about the Fern, but I definitely love using the Aeron's forward tilt function, when playing FPS games on M&K. It helps to keep my back straight, and maintain a good posture.

@btodtv Жыл бұрын

I think the Aeron's forward tilt is better than Fern's because the back comes with you. So, you still get that nice back support whereas the Fern acts more like a perching stool with the back staying in the same spot. Could still be really useful for people that like to perch but some people may expect it to be like the Aeron. I should probably talk about this a bit more when mentioning the Fern but honestly, I never use the function, so it isn't really a focus for me when making these videos. -Ryan

@santiagogladin5651 Жыл бұрын

We are missing a tier list for short people

@naffhf Ай бұрын

Your Haworth dealer should fix it within a few days.

@Splarkszter Жыл бұрын

is there any decent chair at 100$? spending over 300$ already seems insane.

@briansabalo 11 ай бұрын

2023 update: Atlas has an adapter so you can install their headrests on the fern!

@venom5809 Жыл бұрын

Haworth is like Grand Seiko, very good but no one really talks about them. One of my chairs is a fully kitted out Haworth Improve H.E. from the 90s and it still looks and feels like new. Still kicking myself for not buying the exact same colored brown one last year on Marketplace for $400 that had lumbar and the headrest.

@WolfOfJustice Жыл бұрын

I've recently got into horology, lol. Learning about how Seiko toiled day and night to create the Spring Drive movement was absolutely fascinating to see. I look forward to owning a GS one day.

@Glloo481 Жыл бұрын

Haworth’s prices are insane! I’ve been saving for a fern for several months now. Back in the late summer they were $950 fully loaded. I was waiting for them to go on sale. I should have bought it then. As of today it’s $1,300+ The prices go up every week by weird numbers. Like next week it will be $1,417. The week after it will be $1,432 and so on. I really thought the fern would be the one but I’m back to searching as I just can’t justify that price. Can anyone recommend a chair from $500-$900?

@thegoodshit888 Жыл бұрын

Haworth prices keep going up!! I wanna try the Fern. But got Amia return on Btod recommendations. Dunno seat doesn’t seem as comfy as I’d like. But still trying.

@StardustLegacyFighter Жыл бұрын

Herman Miller and Steelcase aren't any better tbh. Inflation has been awful. Maybe try waiting for the Black Friday sale?

@Kmmc2011 10 ай бұрын

Same here.. Checked the price a few days ago and it was at over $1400

@marioopacak4935 Жыл бұрын

i like the lay back in my chair. so i dont know. poor headrest seems like not worth the buy for me. i'd rather go with embody and atlas headrest

@RockTouching Жыл бұрын

Loving my Fern, even compared to Embody/Aeron/Gesture

@ash36230 Жыл бұрын

As someone who bought a Haworth (Zody because I didn't see the Fern at the time, but I prefer executive style chairs), did anyone else have any issues with UK stores? It came on offer (they only offer base models with no customisation), but with mismatched wheels, a nut missing, and damage to the box and it's meant I can't assemble it, while their customer support is impossible to get in touch because they haven't answered any emails.

@xPlasmaz Жыл бұрын

I tried to find their policies on the UK website and the website sucks. Also the chair doesn't come pre-assembled?

@ash36230 Жыл бұрын

@@xPlasmaz The seat and base is, the back you have to slot in and secure yourself with a bolt and a nut. Seeing the differences between what is available on the US websites for companies like Haworth, Steelcase, etc and what is on offer in Europe is so stark in contrast

@StardustLegacyFighter Жыл бұрын

@h91 That's absolutely pathetic. It really annoys me that Steelcase and Haworth just don't seem to give a shit about the high-end office chair market in the UK. It's pretty much just dominated by Herman Miller atm, and it's very boring.

@jdp117 11 ай бұрын

@@StardustLegacyFighter Haworth's UK / EU presence is just pathetic. You can literally only buy a standard Fern from the international store with no customisation options, although I do think it comes with everything bar adjustable lumbar which isn't too bad. The warranty for UK buyers is pathetic as well - they say it's 10 years, but parts and fabrics are only covered for 5 and 2 respectively. Pointless. No wonder Herman Miller have the UK and EU market locked down.

@justplainrye Жыл бұрын

I got an Aeron last year but after the leak showing how its CEO treats employees, I kinda regret not getting this one... If anything to not enable toxic leadership. Ferns look so cool too

@venom5809 Жыл бұрын

Grand Rapids has some of the most awful people you will ever meet in your life, not shocked at all by her behavior.

@WolfOfJustice Жыл бұрын

I just saw the news today, it's absolutely pathetic. She should resign immediately because all she's doing is tarnishing the brand and the entire company.

@StardustLegacyFighter Жыл бұрын

Same here, I got my Aeron last year too, but unlike you guys, we have a lot less availability in the UK. I would have loved to try out the Fern DNC, but Haworth isn't legally allowed to sell that in Europe atm. Steelcase would have obviously been a great alternative, but with only 5 years of warranty and higher prices, it was not an option for me.

@ImKeeday Жыл бұрын

I want a fern, but sheesh that’s very expensive. I’m going to have to save for months!

@StardustLegacyFighter Жыл бұрын

It'll be worth it in the end!

@Felix_EN Жыл бұрын

r/officechairs reacted to your recent tier list

@btodtv Жыл бұрын

Quite a bit of engagement on that post :) Thanks for sharing -Greg

@bamhamer 5 ай бұрын

i bought this chair a week ago and i will send it back. my butt hurts after 30 min sitting on it. the tilt forward option malfunctions all the time. its like its slipping through as soon as you move forward to the seat edge. i cant believe how incredibly uncomfortable this chair is, how can anyone sit in this for a long time?! if this is the best chair the ergonomic world has to offer im going back to plushy comfy chairs...

@Syregren 9 ай бұрын

can buy the digital knit in Europe, sadly.

@Led.on.YouTube Жыл бұрын

Oof on the tall people part. Guess I won't be getting the fern

@macgruber75 Жыл бұрын

how tall are you? I am 6 foot and went to try one last week and it was a perfect fit.

@Led.on.YouTube Жыл бұрын

@@macgruber75 6'3 with longer legs. I've ordered the Aeron, gonna see how that goes

@macgruber75 Жыл бұрын

@@Led.on.KZfaq I tried those as well, they are comfy and have a great recline. I hope it works out for you. Out of the Leap V2, Embody, Hon Ignition, and Fern, the Fern was the most comfortable and fit my back the best. I preferred it without the headrest actually.

@Led.on.YouTube Жыл бұрын

@@macgruber75 yeah the headrest only makes it worse from what I saw. Thanks for the input!

@TrixR4kids Жыл бұрын

Is this a sponsor video

@btodtv Жыл бұрын

No, Ryan just really enjoys the Fern Digital Knit chair -Greg

@WolfOfJustice Жыл бұрын

If you had seen their first ever video on the Fern, you'd have known that they didn't like it that much before. But that was before the Digital Knit configuration version was released, which literally changes everything about the Fern.

@TheMrKlassy Ай бұрын

These chair companies just have to be bought off by Haworth... I'm not even specifically calling out BTOD... all of them. I just got a digital knit fern and it is the cheapest feeling piece of crap I've sat in since my $200 Amazon chair years ago. The only thing this chair has going for it is the back... it's like Haworth put all of the budget and focus into the back, then paired a generic, cheap office chair with it. My Amia and Embody blow this thing out of the water. The Fern's arms, when raised half way or higher are flimsy and rattly. The armpads just feel very cheap. The seat is alright but again, the material feels like that of a $400-$500 office chair at best. The plastic doesn't feel premium, like it does on amia/embody. The base and casters are very basic. The back however is pretty nice... love the digital knit feel and the recline is good but not as good as the Embody. Wasn't a fan that the back metal had scuffs on it out of the box and the material are two separate colors. Didn't get to try the forward tilt option out because haworth delivered a chair with a broken height adjustment lever (no damage to shipping box). No clue how this chair ranks "S" tier unless Haworth bought it. My gf's Secret Lab feels like far higher quality somehow. It's so crazy to me that they're considered a competitor of the Embody.

@btodtv Ай бұрын

If you think the Fern is lower quality than Secret Lab, then you need to just stop watching review videos and take your own advice and do whatever you want. This is simply a rant. The base and caster are low quality? lol cmon man. Also, Haworth has never paid us anything to be ranked on any list. -Ryan

@TheMrKlassy Ай бұрын

@@btodtv Another explanation is they send reviewers higher quality chairs. I was really shocked how bad this was when it got here. I'll send a video, before it goes back. If it was $600 it would be one thing, but upwards of $1600 is bizarre

@Jasheon Жыл бұрын

Horrible armrests! Why isn’t these expensive chairs have nice cushioned armrests?

@btodtv Жыл бұрын

There is a direct trade off between longevity and softness. The softer the arms, the quicker they wear out. Trying to find the right balance for everyone is tough. -Ryan

@Jasheon Жыл бұрын

@@btodtv makes sense yah

@Zebpro Жыл бұрын

@@Jasheon At first I find them a little hard but they seem to soften up a little in time, just like the seat. 🙂

@georgepierre3594 Жыл бұрын

This, just get one with hard armrests, and buy velvet cushion over it. so they dont wear out, thats what I did for 4 years. and it cushions my elbow well.

@WolfOfJustice Жыл бұрын

Looks like you've never sat on crappy office chairs before, because if you think the Fern's armrests are horrible, then you'd be mortified to see how bad armrests on cheap chairs are. I would say the Fern's armrests are almost as good as the Leap v2, which is a huge compliment.

@sheep7255 Жыл бұрын

My ass is dying, this gaming chair sucks. My back is also dying, but at a slower rate. Soon. I'll be getting a new chair, that I hopefully like. Just as long as I don't sink into the cushion and touch whatever the bottom is made out of, since that's the root problem causing my pain. Just below the root is the cushion that did not even survive 6 months, sinking down into the metal frame which is a part of what holds the cushion. Totally not me on death bed because of copium