Especially now how crazy the economy is now.. random but even a damn pack of gum or “quarter” bag of chips are all 50 cents now for even less product in them. Smh

Yeah sure. But in countries like Pakistan there is a lack of money. (So yeah sure no car problem. But you literally have a device availability problem and money problem because of that) P.S. not mention. Good luck going to world tournaments from countries like Pakistan .(Even if you get a visa. You need money. And the money required will be enormous compared to developed countries)

@@b1slee267 These quarter bag of chips depress me.

Facts. My closest local is 1.5 - 2 hours away. Im an adult with a full-time job. Shit ain't happening.

@@Vespyr_ I swear! It just be shake and dust flavoring in them. Like what’s going to happen if no one buys this shi? Try to sale old products anyway or lose money by throwing them out ?

I edge myself too

@@MichaelMineCraftingsedging? I really saw this as more of a full unloading I felt like I really creamed the comments section’s pie with this one

Also for those who are not familiar, it isn't literally about the quarters, for most arcade players it's about time. If you lose you go to the back of the line, you don't play again for 15-30 minutes until your turn comes back around, so you really don't want to lose cuz you just don't get to play any more after that even if you have money. That said $10 is 40 losses, so you don't really want to just go lose a bunch to learn like now you just go into ranked or quick match and lose 100 time on a row working on one skill, you always play only to win, and that then caps you at what works in your arcade to beat the guys around you, so there's entire skills and concepts you may never really develop despite being the "best" guy at your arcade. So it was just natural that these dudes in Korea fighting 200 guys who all travel for tournaments every day for 12 hours in their local arcades vs. NA arcades which had maybe 10-15 players and only a couple of them ever actually played the game outside of the city you are in. Online is changing all that. There's still cultural differences, NA people see content creation as the career for fighting games rather than actually winning tournaments itself, so we may never keep up with like Pakistanis who can actually make a living off just winning tournaments, but the gap will still close a lot in a generation or two.

​@@alexonstott4954 I miss the arcade scene so much. And it truly does breed the best players. Pakistan's dominance owes a lot to the fact that they play locally.

​@@alexonstott4954 Thanks for this -- I think you've pointed out a lot of fascinating observations about how geography shapes how players in different areas tend to develop, the challenges they face (or faced) due to the absence of things like a well-developed local scene, (relatively) unlimited time or money access to machines to lay on, and also things like NA players seemingly tending toward content creation as career vs. players in regions with lower cost of living finding it more valuable to do well in tournaments. I've been thinking lately about how community knowledges for competitive games like fighting games, FPSs, MMOs, even stuff like TCGs developed since the 90s or so -- one's location still matters in terms of finding competition, community, etc., of course, and of course the Internet has blunted that a lot, right? But it's not just the Internet; players have fleshed out concepts like the neutral game, spread patterns, raid encounter mechanics, card advantage, tempo... and in doing so have not only forced game developers to surface a lot of info like frame data, attack ranges, design processes, but developers have also changed how they design these games, and player communities have similarly adjusted how they learn these games and how they present data about them. The comparison that stands out to me is like, original Thottbot vs. today's Wowhead. Thottbot was useful but pretty basic, but pretty quickly Wowhead grew into this thing that scooped up all sorts of data, made tons of it available, but also had a community (not to mention all of the other communities of other websites, guild or server communities, etc.) who developed and provided all sorts of supplementary info about HOW to play WoW at a high level. And that pretty quickly ratcheted up the complexity of raids, dungeons, and even just random-ass other game systems in WoW. So when WoW Classic launched, it was never going to be the same because by that point WoW was just a way more understood game, and indeed player progression through its raids was much faster than the original, despite Blizzard trying to stick pretty closely to the original game. Sorry for the long (and tangential) post, but what you said got me thinking more about this sort of thing. On one hand I'm sad that it's taken me this long to finally get into Tekken, but on the other hand like... I grew up in rural Texas. I simply did not have much access to the FGC(s) until better internet infrastructure was built here, until I met experienced players or players who knew *where to go* to learn, until apps like YT and Discord (not to discredit prior work on forums, IRC, etc.) made it so possible for players *without* much computer background to easily share their knowledge. So, me personally? I was never in a position to enjoy the competitive aspect of the game very much at all until very recently. It's exciting to think that so many more people are now able to play these games with less hurdles in the way of learning or enjoying them.

I guess my followup question would be whats stopping the US from having a bunch of many koreas? Like why is someone whos only played people from Texas facing lower competition than people facing others within their country. I know population density is way different, but even then in dense places like NY, Atl, the bay, etc. Why isntnjust playing people in the northeasest ewuivalent to playing people across japan. Not sure if this makes any sense?

@@bemtheman1100 he already answered your question, because the best players in america are more spread out. You even mentioned yourself the population density thing, a ton of America's land is rural countryside

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​@@M_CFVNYC's population density is 11k per square kilometer, higher than Tokyo's which is 6k, so that doesn't really check out as to why NYC isn't as strong a region as Tokyo. It's clear population density doesn't explain everything

​​​@@waterguyroks transportation sucks so much in many states until more recently and offline scene wasn't fostered here as much especially with moba's, mmo's, and fps that tend to lean towards netplay due to team style gameplay and having better online for alot longer along with more mass appeal. You can also throw in that same fact of the fighting game scene being much smaller and that online for em sucking not allowing them to be played online with as much variety. KI and skull girls in 2012-2013 were the first to have good online, SFV had rollback but it didn't have good rollback even though it released in 2016. Despite GGPO being released in like 2006 it was only on retro titles like sf3 and mvc2 which weren't new releases that had eyes on em. Countries like ones in latin america loving snk games and dbz are perfect storms and more pure good luck.

Tag 2 looked better than 7 in a lot of ways

Tag 2 was a game ahead of its time

I forgot to add timestamps 😅

That's what I was about to say.. it's easy to be really good at a game when u have nothing to do in your life.. I work 12 hours a day and play for like 30 min a day going against mfs who play for 12+hours

I try to set aside a half hour or so just for practice and not 'playing'. Then, when I have actual free time the application in the lab and actually playing the game is more enjoyable.

Are you implying that only applies in North America?

If there's one region I associate with people having easy jobs with lots of free time outside of work, it is East Asia. e: this is sarcasm, for the love of god stop sending me replies telling me that people in east asia work long hours. we all know that, that's the point

so like every other person, nice. Do you think every pro is a rich person? or that they can affort to travel oversee because "they have nothing to do"? you guys are weird

Its the case where barely any asian countries play it, but US (and also french for DBFZ). There is MK too where basically no asian country play it. But game where most countries play like SF and tekken. US usually fall behind other regions. Tho cant say the same on SF as ppl like menard, punk, and nuckledu still usually compete with the best in asia. Menard not US i guess yea but still american region. But yea in tekken its surely the case here.

He was trained by monsters literally

I don't know about other games but coming from dota it's definitely 'NA LUL' yes😂but have never gotten as much of that impression from my time watching tekken

in every game ive played na has been always been a tragic region, its hilarious

NA has always been lul They just fail at copying asian tactics

Amen, brother. Raise hell, praise dale.

@@sliippy2152 That's why I think it's weird that melee players in NA are superior..