Ngl it definitely felt like a dig lol

Yes i agree 😂 ​@@nikkilifts

My exact thoughts 😆

"Why can't be both?"

For some reason I don't believe it.

awe that's so cute love the little details you guys are putting in I hope by the time the games comes out i'll have graduated college and have a good job so I can buy it on release day :)

Hey Paralives!! Can't wait for 2025 ❤

I love the lil Easter eggs

Can't wait to play this game ❤

will player manage to have polyamorus characters would that work .. as its a thing I have always wanted in the sims and its just not their and I do know that these are two very different games I just am wondering also well does to u all on the progress you've made with this Wonderfull game I am so very excited

i feel it's going to be famous in the way maybe stardew valley is famous (??? or like animal crossing, in the "cozy games" type of way maybe

it’s giving life is strange before the storm episode 1 and other cozy games on steam, as a life sim. like growing up but more life simmy

Yes! I like that they didnt go the way the sims went like all the way. Of course it's similar but some things are quite different and i think that will be a plus for them

It definitely seems to me to be adjacent to Stardew Valley where The Sims is like Animal Crossing. It's a similar concept initially, but really isn't the same game (ie more leveling up and stats focused) and I think that will always be better than just creating a clone of what's already successful. While I doubt it's going to become "the new Sims" like a lot of people seem to be hoping, it will definitely end up carving out its own niche alongside the Sims' longstanding franchise

Yes more chill

Yes so true!!

Yes this is so true! I Love the Sims. I've been playing since the Sims 1 and while yes, i am critical of the Sims 4 and don't Play it i don't think of paralives as the Game that Kills the Sims. I would Love If this leads to Sims 5 being a great Game, i would simply have multiple great Games to Play! But i do feel Like alot of patreons Love paralives for the Game itself so that's great

Honestly I’ve semi forgotten about the sims now that i focus on Paralives so much. I hope others can also start to see Paralives as it’s own game, rather than in comparison to the sims, and I think with Inzoi and LBY coming it could happen.

Yes hope so

I hope people don't just turn to the game out of hate or spite for EA. But honestly, after their broken packs they won't fix, ignoring players that need help... they kinda deserve to taste some competition. Not out of hate, but out of their love for the game. If they love the game as much as we do (or did), then they will want to keep it alive. That also means they'll have to try harder to make sure their game is not broken or gets the fixes it needs. That they don't just do money grabs anymore and actually try to deliver quality for the money they ask. That would mean that people who are now mad, would learn to enjoy sims all over again. I played sims since sims 1 and I still play that one! Sims 3 is my favourite... sadly, they left that game BROKEN as well. Still charging full price even though sims 4 basegame is now free. You got waaaaaay more in sims 3 DLC. Okay, build mode is amazing in sims 4 though, but customisation in sims 3 was the bomb. That said, I am really looking forward to Paralives in the hopes I can fall in love again with the life simulator games as I did with sims 1 and 3. Sims 4 turned into a build mode simulator for me as the gameplay got so.. uninteresting and wonky :/ If this game can force EA to do better because now they'd have serious and real competition, then perhaps I will learn to enjoy sims again too. I will always love the sims... 1 and 3 :')

Sims is so big that it would need lot to crush it, I mean lot of people still play the earlier games too and there is always people willing to chill money for Sims. However I hope that having competition, meaning Sims isn't only option will force Maxis to make better quality for their own work since its no longer given that someone wanting to play life sim picks up the Sims once there is options

Exactly, people really want the dragon of EA slain but really I just want a shake up in Life Simulation. At this point, also, Paralives is not a purchasable game. Everyone got hyped about InZoi’s social media sweep and we haven’t heard much from them since. Everyone will be talking about Paralives today cause the news is fresh, but when (if) it drops in 2025 and IF it’s good enough to get a playerbase, then we’ll see what kind of shakeup the market has. I would love to see Life By You (if it can exist by 2025 a I don’t think June will happen), Paralives, and Sims co-exist!! And maybe Inzoi if it isn’t vaporware. I do not care about InZoi but every life sim fan having those choices in front of them is better for the genra. Paralives is the one I am most interested in actually playing.

I would love if we can have the option to control the pets if we want to but also have the option of letting them do their own thing like sims 4

​@@TheDawnofVanlifeInzoi still share informations about the game if you know where to look. Even recently they shared a look at a new Los Angeles inpired world.

It will be nice to have more then just one life sim out there. It will allow people to have a choice rather then it's the sims or nothing. It may also help the sims to improve if there are other options out there. As it stand now Sims is the only one of it's kind.

@@layeleeI think a lot of people want to play all or several of these games, they’re all different and focus on different aspects. Paralives is very unique, LBY or Inzoi really aren’t cozy games. So even once those have released, I don’t think people will necessarily lose interest in Paralives, especially those already subbed to their Patreon. I am a Patron and I do find the other games interesting but they will never be the same as this, so I’ll keep waiting even if I do play LBY

@@layelee i highly doubt that the funding relies entirely on being a the sims competitor because the game itself seems interesting enough. i don't care that much about life by you (and i have no interest in playing inzoi) and i bet i'm not the only one waiting specifically for paralives. there's a reason people still support them on patreon

@@avatarophelia Same here!!! Of course I may change my mind, but life by you has no interest to me. Also, in my opinion, the more good life sims the better. The Sims has been the only one for too long.

Yeah they said they are still working on lighting and other life mode shading

@@ThemermaidPearlThe funny thing about the lighting is the "Lumen Lights" shop beside the cafe. It's a sly little nod at using Lumen lighting tech in the game.

that's it! I'm glad you pointed it out

Ooooo yeah the lighting really would make the characters blend in more with the scene. I was trying to figure out what they could do to fix that

@@lilly3920There's really no need for a "fix" exactly. At this stage of development shadows usually aren't complete, if they're even implemented at all yet. The whole like "polish" part of game development happens in the final few months before a release.

I agree, perhaps they will change their mind, but also, if they somehow manage to add those things for free, I will not have any complaints lol

EXACTLY!!! we got so used to EA's greedy and flawed way of releasing dlcs that we're all traumatized, lmao. there's nothing wrong with a couple of dlc's every now and then, especially if they WORK and have the right ammount of content for the price!

Honestly, that's how I felt when they added the second farm to Stardew Valley. "I would have paid for this, but it's awesome that it's being added for free!" It was such a huge update, a real labor of love from its dev.

Imo paid dlc should add something that isn’t intrinsic to the nature of the base game. For example, a supernatural element is not intrinsic to a life simulator. Seasons and domestic pets are intrinsic to life simulation though. The base game should include ideas that broadly apply to most human experiences. And paid dlc should be something that you could not easily expect in most real life scenarios.

Or I think it would be cool if they made DLC about supernatural aspects because it is a life sim so I expect aspects of life to be in it but for stuff that's not real like the supernatural werewolves, vampires, fairies, mermaids, etc.

The thought I have is they might release the 1.0, iron out a few bugs, and then let the game fly on its own. So instead of many dlc to have continued support, they'll switch to future projects instead.

This is what they mentioned in the email sent to us patreon: When Paralives comes out in Early Access, we will be making frequent updates to release new features and content for free. Then, after the Early Access phase and the launch of the 1.0 version of the game, we will keep making big updates and they will always remain free. The reason for this decision is that, as players ourselves, we believe that purchasing a game should come with the guarantee of a fleshed out experience. We aim to make Paralives our labor of love for years to come, continuously coming up with exciting new stuff to experience in the game. As a small team without any shareholders to please, we believe the money we make from selling the game alone will be enough to support us and the development of free updates in the long run.

Nvm, finished the video. Free expansions? I.... I'm not sure how they'll keep afloat if those expansions have quality content.

Just look at Terraria :) it can happen for sure

In terms of paid DLC, I recall in the past of someone mentioning out of this world features like supernatural pack might be a paid for DLC. Anything that doesn't make sense in the Para's world will likely be paid for dlc. In terms of somewhat realistic packs though, those DLCs will likely be the free ones?

hell yeah it's a huge deal, in my country ONE dlc is like 20k (for comparison last week I bought a pair of nice shoes at like 31k, EA is asking too much man)

where i live, all the the sims dlcs are more than 3x the price of my rent (and i live in a nice 2 bedroom apartments, in a building with doorman and elevator, in a really nice neighboorhood), the sims is crazy expensive.

Also paid dlcs are basically a form of microtransaction from triple A companies. If its not an expansion pack, it should be free. Heck, stuff packs and kits shouldn't even be bought.

What I really hate about the expansion packs, is that it seems like they're never on a good sale. If they had old ones on 80% off sales every now and then, I would actually get them.

agreed and i LOVE the way you can develop relationships that are one sided-- like the secret crush one

@@dely5553 YESS secret crush is so cute. sims 2 kinda had that w allowing crushes ans "in love" to be one sided so im hoping this game expands that concept

Yeah i actually really like that interactions are more simplified and streamlined cause I get so overwhelmed by the sims’ massive social wheel.

@@acaseymonster same! i feel like i only use a few of them

​@@acaseymonster for real, especially since most of them do the same thing anyways!

Wait, it’s been five years? I genuinely did not realise

@@MAndSquared yeah its been a while loll

It is shocking to me that it has already been five years!! Wow what even is time?!

​@@ashtaylor4107 an illusion lol

OMG! I don't quite like the graphics and I couldn't pinpoint why until you said it. It reminds me of life is strange!. 😅

I wish this were higher up because you are quite right we’ve only recently moved into the everything is a subscription part of capitalism and it is by no means necessary but a byproduct of the neoliberal system, companies needing to continously have higher profit for bigger payouts to shareholders and execs.

i think stardew valley is a really good comparison, because it has been completely sustainable without any DLC

there have been many games that have been majorly successful without any payed dlcs. minecraft (before the marketplace),stardew valley etc. if the base game in itself is good enough that will be enough to make more ppl play and be profitable

@@ktqueen exactly! And it’s such a shame that people are unable to understand or refuse to acknowledge this, so their skepticism is entirely misdirected at indie studios vs this capitalism hellscape that forces us to pay thousands of dollars for DLC to have “complete games”.

They firmly believe that it has become the norm to pay for DLCs and microtransactions in today's gaming industry, and therefore fail to comprehend that players simply desire high-quality games. Numerous indie game developers have achieved success without the need for any DLCs or microtransactions, solely by offering players a comprehensive and authentic gaming experience. A life simulation game that does not require any additional payments will undoubtedly sell exceptionally well, particularly when the leading game in this genre is published by a greedy company that is widely despised for their avarice. By paying once and not having to worry about future paid content, as opposed to a game where one would have to spend over $1000 for everything, the choice seems quite obvious. I am genuinely not concerned about Paralives' financial future.

Also re. the art style, I adore it. I hate the direction modern games go with their art styles, I think realism looks plasticy, stale, and unimpressive. I am so excited to see a game with such a unique look and personality becoming so popular. And they did say they will allow for custom content, so for anyone who doesn’t like the art style, the ability to change appearances will be available.

I wasn't sure if the skills displayed were more creative because these particular paras are creative types, I'm hoping (and mostly sure) they'll have those skills too. I'd love like a plumber or electrician job where you go to houses to fix objects or people bring stuff in for a repair shop style

I'm so glad someone else feels this way, I honestly love the contrast in style between the paras and the world itself.

YES! Like I understand what Kayla is saying and how she feels about it, but guys lets be honest, if the Para's matched the enviroment of the world they would just have less texture and details and to be more clear, they would be uglier. And thats definetly NOT what you want from "human" characters right? We want them to be pretty to look at and to feel real and human even with the "drawing" art style the game has. So I feel like the Para's having more lines,details and depth than objects is not only great but it is necessary!!

@@lavandergirl0209 ONE HUNDRED PERCENT THIS!!

@@lavandergirl0209 absolutely agreed! i think most players will just need to get used to it, right now it's just very new and unfamiliar, in 2-3 years most will probably look back and wonder why they were so against the art style 😅

I also really like it but I understand why some people don’t

Agreed! Looks cute on her! Reminds me of my great grandmother (and I mean thar ad a compliment, not that Kayla looks old) because she wore similar shirts and Kayla's personality reminds me of her as well.

@@SammyLammy1D Aww, that is lovely!

Bro I know what I’m going to say is like totally irrelevant, but seeing this interaction might have restored my faith to in humanity. One is not really used to people interacting with so much love and understanding under YT comments, but it’s truly beautiful. I wish you both, dear random strangers, the best of night/day

@@PercyNotAble aww thank you! After the week I've had, I really appreciate it 🙏. I wish you a good night/evening/day wherever you are as well! 😊

Agreed! 😍 it looks like some shirt from animal crossing!

Yeah even the dialogue is linked to the para's personality. Like Anisa is serious so she gets options like saying yes without emotion to a job. Or talking about music with her composer friend. They are trying to make sure personality affects your interactions

I hope there will be some negative impacts too. Like taking that option to listen to music while at work should have a negative impact on top of gaining the musical knowledge skill. Something like because you're listening to music you get a lower chance of upgrades per day (as if your job performance is slightly worse) or your customer service is slightly worse because of it. Meanwhile though on another job like say you're a janitor somewhere, listening to music could have a good impact because you're not interacting with anyone really and helps make the job less monotonous.

And I love how there are choices specifically connected to the para being a “serious” kind of person and that the personality updates were also relevant to that. It really makes me more interested in what the other vibes evolve into

update I passed my grade 8 theory :3

this. exactly what i was thinking!

YES. They NEED competition. EA basically has the monopoly on this genre for 24 years. The competition cannot come soon enough.

EA won’t fight, EA gave up on the SimCity series, litterally. And it wasn’t even really tottally because of City Skylines…they had a bad 2013 launch and just kinda abandoned the genra. EA makes money from games other than the Sims. If it really hits a point where they don’t think Sims is worth it, they might close up shop on it. I honestly don’t think that is going to happen tho, I think there will be a point of coexistence and there first move might be discounted packs. Paralives if it launches will have a big launch, but the real test is a month after launch when people have settled inti the game a bit.

The only problem with that statement is that EA doesn't actually give a shit about competition. They either continue their awful model of exploitation of the players, or, if the games aren't deemed profitable anymore, they close off studios and kill off franchises. This is exactly why they're one of the most hated companies.

Also, I think a lot of sims fans, especially older ones, were also fans of games of franchises where EA fumbled the bag and then discontinued. Closest exemple is simcity but it’s not the only one. Simmers who only play sims might not know, but EA is hated by gamers of all genres, and it’s been declared the worst gaming company in America for yearssss. If EA ever dissolves (it won’t) and it’s IP it’s redistributed, you would see fans from various franchises celebrating ahaha Edit: I don’t think paralives will end the sims or EA, what would end the sims would be sims 5 flopping, like simcity 2013 did. I hope para is enough for them to take more attention to detail in the sims 5, that kind of pressure…

woah this was only posted seconds ago i didnt even realise

thank you so much for pointing it out I'm dead

Kinda scary😅😅😅😅

that’s what I love about this game already. ain’t no way in hell the sims team was going to give us a bodypillow

that’s what I love about this game already. ain’t no way in hell the sims team was going to give us a bodypillow

If I don't see hundreds of mods that customize that pillow I will be extremely disappointed.

I assume slow updates.

That'd be a fair point if ea games worked well on standard laptops but it doesn't run that well on them at all, it lacks features and still doesn't run as well as other games. I like accessibility and all but life sims are games too and sometimes to game you need a gaming set up.

Same! I got weirdly emotionally attached after I found out the team is in Montreal. Them being francophones also brings out my cultural pride lol

@@Pucapable, and now… the $ being behind the number is starting to make sense. 😅

Oh damn! I didn't know! That's awesome!

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Omg whatt? How I didn't know this!!! This is awesome!!

Me too! Unfortunately, that’s the best part of this game for me 😅

There are many games like No Man's Sky that sustent themselfs only with the sales of the game, because since the "dlc's" are always free, everytime there is one big update the sales increase, and that is enough to maintain the team. Paralives's team is only made by 11 people, is a very small amount, and you cant compare it to The Sims 4 for example because there are hundreads of people that work or worked with them, its a huge franchise, Paralives is an indie game, so that system of no paid dlc's could actually work.

This was my thought as well. Once the game comes out, the majority of people who want it, will buy on release. That will give them a massive amount of money up front. But it won't last, and when the money runs out, what then. This leads me to believe (assuming they are telling the truth) that they are not planning to do many updates for the game. What we get on release, will be the finished product. Maybe a patch here and there to fix any bug, but that's it. Without a steady cash flow, they have no way to continue making content for the game.

@@RazberrieSherbet but the game is literally being realesed incomplete, in Early Access, like??? Why do you think the realease version is going to be the final version when its literally not? They have said it before that the game will have many updates after even being lauchend at its 1.0 version. In the public patreon post that they released today they said that early access wont come with some basic stuff like pools, but it will come after so, I just dont think you read the informations correctly

Updates being players and KZfaqrs back, which brings new players. Minecraft did it for a while without dlcs (in fairness they spread to other platforms ) and so did stardew valley. I reckon Paralives has got it in the bag. The base game is already gonna be so full, just going by what will be added during early access (source- roadmap!!) that the updates will probably feel very fun? Just my theory

@@lavandergirl0209ummmmm - you completely misunderstand what early access is. razberries is saying that the actual release will be mostly finished. but early access is not that

oh cool! i personally love it too!

same, and now i kind of don't want to buy it out of spite 😭

I also was mad about it, but what made me the most upset was that they raised the price as well. If I would have known it wasn't going to be free I would have bought it when it was cheaper. It just turned me away from the game altogether 🤷🏼‍♀️

Yeh im tired of how subpar the sims 4 is .... and ea doesn't give a frick coz there's nothing else like that in the market as of now. It's infuriating. Another thing that annoys is the sims 4 fanbois that just want to hype up a game that's shallow and basic in everything other than build/buy. Personally i hope Paralives destroys the sims tbh

I don't think the sims is going to die , lots of people like the sims 4 even though i think its an awful game. For me though, as someone who's played all the games, 4 just seems so bland and lifeless, i can't play it for more than a couple of minutes without losing interest. thankfully sims 2 and 3 still exist :)

updates, like many other games without dlc. ever played minecraft? stardew valley?

@@kallielatham9960 Devs deserve to be paid.

Keep in mind: sims team is HUGE, hundreds of employees and lots of board/stockholders, major overhead costs like large office space, which all require money, plus corporate capitalistic profit-chasing. The paralives team is, what, 12 people? Pretty sure they all work from home, so no office upkeep costs, and the music and sound effect folks won't be full-time pay I imagine once most of that is completed, just contracted out as needed for updates. There are no investors to pay back, because the people "investing" are all via patreon, who expect nothing (except a hopefully great game to buy!) in return. The costs of making a AAA game vs an Indie game are vastly different, there is hope they will be able to deliver on their promises

maintaining a team of 10-12 people is a lot easier than mantaing a company of 1000+ employees... it's not hard to understand, people.

maintaining a team of 10-12 people is a lot easier than mantaing a company of 1000+ employees... it's not hard to understand, people.

haaha very college dorm coded