Is Pride Still Necessary? Conservative vs Liberal Gays

Is Pride Still Necessary? Conservative vs Liberal Gays | Middle Ground

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0:00 intro
0:27 The gay community is oversexualized
5:05 Pride is still necessary
10:17 LGB should be separated from the TQIA+
26:18 Drag shows are too sexual for minors
32:57 I would date a trans man
38:52 LGBTQ topics should be taught in school
45:37 Monogomous relationships are difficult to find in the gay community

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@jubilee 8 ай бұрын

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@abbeangely 8 ай бұрын

Hey Jubilee, I hope you can read all of the prompts in future videos 🥲 some of us may be listening to it like it’s a podcast and it gets confusing when the topic changed and having to go back to it all the time

@pamelagreen6611 8 ай бұрын

Would it be terrible/obvious to have generational debates? More Senior gays vs young? Just wondering…

@taintedsorrw 8 ай бұрын

0:00 R

@career5690 8 ай бұрын

Jubilee I want to see CNA vs Nurse.

@career5690 8 ай бұрын

I also want to see Black Americans vs White Americans meaning American citizens whose family lived here for centuries.I’m saying this because Black Americans have said that they don’t want Africans and Caribbean Americans speaking for them.

@AQcg5 8 ай бұрын

Enough with liberals vs conservatives I wanna see capitalists vs communists 😂

@zking2929 8 ай бұрын

Truuuuue

@LibertarianDude99 8 ай бұрын

They have one with Capitalists vs Socialists. But I agree, we need a deeper conversation of Capitalists vs Socialists or Capitalists vs Communists

@darrylmurdock3677 8 ай бұрын

Or Capitalist vs Socialist vs Communist....include all three, they've done it before!

@birthemuller7310 8 ай бұрын

It's not easy to find actual socialists in America 😂 most of them think that social democracy is socialism or they call themselves "intersectional marxists" like that makes any sense

@vigiantitanudjaja1364 8 ай бұрын

Please Jubilee 😭

@sarafletch 5 ай бұрын

Expressing sexuality naked, in public spaces where children are is never okay.

@zaddyrat3476 5 ай бұрын

Most events where stuff like that happen are 18+

@rosepeter7605 5 ай бұрын

Alot of pride parades are not though they are opened to the general public which is the problem @@zaddyrat3476

@Mastaace 4 ай бұрын

That almost literally never happens. Stop with your conservative talking points.

@sarafletch 4 ай бұрын

@@Mastaace Every single pride event in every city In the world has open nudity and fetish wear- mixed with children. So that just is beyond incorrect. I’m gay and refuse to attend any pride events that children are allowed at cause I think it’s very disturbing. People like you are very much apart of the problem.

@vdwhite687 4 ай бұрын

Exactly

@blissfulmountain 5 ай бұрын

Kai was the absolute sweetest and he really tried to find a middle ground. The denim vest guy was really hard to watch with how disrespectful he was by interrupting people all the time.

@user-jb4dl9tp8y 4 ай бұрын

I don't think he was disrespectful in any way, why can't someone be interrupted after affecting lives of so many kids badly

@David-xm9wn 4 ай бұрын

it wasnt just that one instance it was many@@user-jb4dl9tp8y

@nielszindel1151 4 ай бұрын

He reminds me of gay men from the past who really had to fight for their rights and maybe life has not been easy for him. Delia Morris

@tinacameron5526 3 ай бұрын

@@user-jb4dl9tp8ymario has actually been fighting for someone like me before puberty I wanted to be a boy, if I knew about trans I would've 100% went through puberty blockers. I needed to go through puberty to know I am meant to be a woman. I would be the girl having regrets and I'm thankful for people like mario he should be proud. I will also say I'm glad I wasn't exposed to this confusing transgender stuff in school because I would be living an unhappy life for the rest of my life.

@albertacorralez2871 3 ай бұрын

@@user-jb4dl9tp8yIt is not badly. Kids brain aren’t fully developed. They are not mature enough to make those decisions that have permanent consequences.

@maddylou8173 6 ай бұрын

tyshaun was LOVING the “LGB should be separated from the TQIA+” debate, he was smiling the whole time while they argued lololol

@jinniemelon00 4 ай бұрын

He wanted to grab some popcorn lol

@wakeshoneema6363 3 ай бұрын

bro ty was me reacting as well😅😅😅😅

@sadem1045 3 ай бұрын

He was about to BURST.

@duglawfokker9182 2 ай бұрын

I was watching like am I missing something until the convo exploded and I was on my FEET for it

@spaceparrot8702 Ай бұрын

Well, I mean, the LGB should divorce the rest of the letters thing does make sense. LGB=sexual orientations. TQIAEJH+++=gender identity.

@LobsterMack 8 ай бұрын

As a drag queen, let me tell you, I do not want kids at my shows. It’s 95% of the time hosted at a nightclub or bar, those are not spaces meant for minors. Let me drink in peace. I don’t want to have to censor myself or my art because someone decided to bring their kid to my show. That being said, I have done shows that were open to everyone at other venues where there were guidelines in place to make sure everything we wore or performed was appropriate for all ages. Also, Homegirl with the denim vest needs to hush. I KNOW she doesn’t let ANY of her friends talk, EVER.

@Layla109 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for being sensible! There is hope for humanity yet.

@iihh517 8 ай бұрын

Home girl with denim 😂

@deannamarie3746 8 ай бұрын

I agree, though If its at a nightclub or bar, children aren't allowed anyway, so I'm not sure how this all turned into an issue

@sakshamtyagi9652 8 ай бұрын

His response to the anti trans b*tch was very apt

@Olivia-uc4eu 8 ай бұрын

@@iihh517😂😅 I'm rolling homegirl😅😂

@radnbeautyg5856 7 ай бұрын

They did way better than the trans debate. Glad they kept each other in check and made sure everyone was heard.

@DiabolicalAngel 7 ай бұрын

They really did. The trans debate was so unpleasant.

@kkbeatss 7 ай бұрын

Gays are way more accepted socially so obviously people have way less stress/stigmas about it, and the conversation is more about trivial topics instead of focusing on topics of more importance/necessity

@spritesandspirits 7 ай бұрын

I feel like they just need a better group of people for the trans debate, it was so emotional but with more mature trans women I could see a better episode

@shirazsharivar8536 7 ай бұрын

But the trans debate was 1000x more interesting and tv worthy. This was duuull

@aurniachowdhury 7 ай бұрын

Oml, excusing a few people, I felt like the whole trans debate was kinda hectic. People were like not listening to one another, talking over one another, not respecting one another. Yeah it was just very chaotic.

@Kittybublejjj 6 ай бұрын

“We’re celebrating essentially sex rather than love.” Well said!

@feministmermaid4769 4 ай бұрын

"They're bi." Perfect

@jasonfernandes755 2 ай бұрын

Gay for pay people are not bi. Gay or straight, not bi.

@Zipperskull_ Ай бұрын

@@jasonfernandes755Those dudes dont think for themselves other than to get money, sad.

@ToProsca Ай бұрын

@@jasonfernandes755 Like women who are in threesome. But they should not be consider Queer either.

@oscardean8962 23 күн бұрын

People really forget pan people exist

@Hellokitty_391 20 күн бұрын

@@jasonfernandes755biphobia is real

@SRichards-de7ri 8 ай бұрын

Just to lay down the law: indecent exposure, public nudity and public sec is all ILLEGAL for both straights and gays

@cecebakescakes 8 ай бұрын

doesnt seem to be at pride parades tho. Haven‘t seen anyone being arrested for that and I have been to several in the past 6 years

@riftsplitter2159 8 ай бұрын

@@cecebakescakesRules for thee but not for me.

@michelletaggart157 8 ай бұрын

I can’t speak for everywhere, but I know in Seattle, nudity is not illegal. It is considered a crime to do something indecent like touching yourself or flashing someone in public, but public nudity on its own is not illegal here. That’s why we have the naked bike riders parade. Being naked by itself does not constitute a crime. I’m sure Seattle is not the only place in the US like this.

@thes.t.a.gprince9952 8 ай бұрын

@@michelletaggart157 why do people want to be naked in public 😢

@KoreyByrne 8 ай бұрын

Isn’t nudity legal in New York ?

@HHLucifer666 8 ай бұрын

As a gay person, the over-sexualization of pride has made it uncomfortable for me to even want to attend the event. I don't wanna see indecent nudity in a public space nor do I wanna see it as a celebration of sex in general. There ARE places for that, and a public street is not one of them

@emir5009 8 ай бұрын

Yes feel this way also

@BNezzy 8 ай бұрын

This is the reason why I will never ever attend or support a Pride Parade but still support some LGB people outside of them.

@Omgits7ito 8 ай бұрын

Likewise my friend

@lizafrench8455 8 ай бұрын

Yep

@keithrodes 8 ай бұрын

Same here. 👋🏼

@stonewall5792 6 ай бұрын

As an American, I'm glad we're a country that can allow these discussions without getting criminalized.

@Rein_ 6 ай бұрын

there are states that want to ban discussions like this. american people aren't free like they claim they are.

@stonewall5792 6 ай бұрын

@@Rein_ which states? It's literally illegal and unconstitutional to ban any type of speech.

@ScottieDPOYY 6 ай бұрын

@@stonewall5792 You said it yourself, its literally illegal and unconstitutional. So why be thankful enough to thank a youtube comment section lol. You had it before, have it now and will have it tomorrow. The constitution rejects your thanks on basis on softness

@cahan557 6 ай бұрын

@@stonewall5792haven’t there been multiple controversies with gay teachers simply stating they have a same sex partner in school?

@user-ss4ek3zo4d 5 ай бұрын

seriously. People have literally no idea, they could be in Russia or North Korea. Were not only they’re not allowed to be gay, but they’re literally not allowed to disagree or discuss topics. I swear some of these people blessed to be in the western world are so far out of touch with the reality of the freedom that we have. It’s so sad to see the lack of appreciation for our freedom

@ReliusCrensan 2 ай бұрын

I just want to say how impressed I was after seeing Mario speak. He held his composure while being aggressively attacked, and he stood his ground, even when no one in the room agreed with his points of view. He built his road forward in life as a minority, and I believe that alone makes him deserve a lot of respect.

@toutmoncoeur 24 күн бұрын

I'm proud of his law as well. Women are more impressionable. The gay guy was upset bc testosterone puberty is less reversible. Comparing regretting a nose job, to a doble mastectomy shows how off his reasoning is. How out of touch w the female consequences of this u.s. craze to mutilate bodies. Of young people. In my opinion, people need to be far from their school years. Bc school segregates by gender far more than real life does. It distorts perception. As an adult. No one cares. Live as you wish. But as a kid, you might notice it more.

@hyperpii18 8 күн бұрын

@@toutmoncoeur >refers to trans men as women

@thisvvn8510 8 ай бұрын

This is the first middle ground where it actually feels like a legitimate constructive discussion more often than a debate

@saveforth 8 ай бұрын

Idk, they’ve been pretty mean to each other, I haven’t really seen that in the other episodes I’ve seen.

@Max78912 8 ай бұрын

cus regular gays are actually super cool and chill

@josephhutchins8 8 ай бұрын

That’s because there’s no women in this discussion

@zgk815 8 ай бұрын

I agree. Often Jubilee finds people whose job is being a talking piece for a political party (last week had 2 pragerU employees on the conservative side. It’s tough though because Jubilee wants to find articulate people with well defined views but most people don’t. I really liked this video though

@brandonj7586 8 ай бұрын

A debate can be a legitimate constructive discussion. But I get what you're tryna say.

@geertmostrey3340 8 ай бұрын

As a European gay, I cannot help but wonder how this debate, on in my opinion very import topics, would go if you put European gays vs American gays. We do seem to live in different worlds. Maybe an idea for a future program?

@flowerblue196 8 ай бұрын

All of it

@Lindsay--uh8zo 8 ай бұрын

yes sounds very interesting

@ownedbymykitty270 8 ай бұрын

How would you describe most European gays compared to what you saw here?

@l4rgatx414 8 ай бұрын

latino gays, hispanic gays, it would be a completely different experience

@markrogers1786 8 ай бұрын

European seems way too broad. I can’t imagine they have the same cultural continuity between Paris and Moscow as Americans would have about LA and New York. A Scandinavian and a Turk, an Irishman and a Bulgarian. You see the point I’m making. Too many different cultures and governments for any small group to speak for “Europe”

@mightymorphinniqz9235 7 ай бұрын

Barrett needs some self control lol

@ellabellaboom4537 Ай бұрын

He needs a xanax

@joshuag.4873 19 күн бұрын

Pretty boy Barrett needs a ball-gag...

@Ameersuhail 7 күн бұрын

not some, A LOT. And clearly he was told to check it, because that Tiktok profile doesn't exist anymore xD

@rpm7997 2 күн бұрын

He's the Blossom of this debate, that's for sure.

@Bminutes 4 ай бұрын

“Can we not talk about who we’re having sex with?” *gets a bunch of people together to talk about sexuality*

@IsaacAtkinson 4 ай бұрын

i mean she did say for that specific promt

@sam-nu6me 4 ай бұрын

sexuality isn’t all about sex? it’s about love and physical attraction too.

@xNyx_Goddessx Ай бұрын

@@sam-nu6mes3x is still apart of it especially when saying the definition of it it’s a thing that has to be brought up

@dunbass7149 10 күн бұрын

Sexuality isn’t inherently tied to sex

@Restingmadface 8 ай бұрын

I like how they constantly validated each other, apologized, or stood up for each other even when they disagreed. I feel I like that isn’t common in these debates.

@karinisvetcool 8 ай бұрын

Yeah the 'I'm so much more pissed off than you but I CAN shut my mouth', beautiful

@dandrechesterfield5411 8 ай бұрын

That’s because even though they’re gay they’re still men so they don’t have that female trait to tear each other down

@1Dark.Paradise.Lost1 8 ай бұрын

@@dandrechesterfield5411 You still found a way to tear down a group of people, christ.

@iloveCH0C0LATE439 8 ай бұрын

@@dandrechesterfield5411lol what? Men and women tear each other down all the time in life and in these debates. The fact that they were able to apologize and reconcile is extremely rare in Jubilee debates regardless of sex.

@brivonn1580 8 ай бұрын

Not me figuring out which of the guys would make a handsome couple 😂😂😂

@jhonathannewell6805 8 ай бұрын

I would like to see a middle ground on male LGBT vs women LGBT. Have a person represent each letter and see where we all stand within our own community.

@ragingenby 8 ай бұрын

The idea is that the two groups they get are opposing sides. Gay women and gay men wouldn’t fit this criteria on their own. That being said, they could do an interesting spectrum episode on it

@emmakaisa27 8 ай бұрын

Male lesbian? 😂

@azzamziply3039 8 ай бұрын

@@emmakaisa27you mean trans lesbian?

@dang4160 8 ай бұрын

What community there isent a community end off .

@justanotherviewer7117 8 ай бұрын

How about trans men vs trans women? Or biologically female lesbians vs trans women who identify as lesbian. Now THAT could be explosive!

@Mod0308 2 ай бұрын

Amir out here like “They’re Bi….but no really….theyre BI” FACTS 😂😂😂 I love people who operate within the parameters of common sense and logic 🥰

@saldicaterino8909 19 күн бұрын

Telling someone they should be ashamed for banning the prescription steroids to minors is CRAZY 😂

@SavioureG 2 күн бұрын

The worst part is they completely dismissed the stories of people who regretted these decisions when it was given to them as children. And also, it is common to give puberty blockers since the 80s? That is such bull, where is his source? Buzz feed and tiktok?

@tailsprowerfan2729 2 күн бұрын

@@SavioureGsince the 1980s? I thought this crap starting in the mid late 2010s

@CCLyssCC 8 ай бұрын

One thing I can't stand is when someone doesn't let someone else talk and keeps interupting them. Just seeing it is frustrating, and dealing with it even more. It's so disrespectful. No matter if you agree or not.

@jaderose3175 8 ай бұрын

I agree, however that's just how these heated debates go 🤷‍♀️

@vincentslashmarshall 8 ай бұрын

Well, Mario absolutely deserved to be interrupted. I hate this new "let people talk" thing because it allows ppl who aren't so smart to talk a lot of non-sense.

@KV-db9gw 8 ай бұрын

@@vincentslashmarshalllike you just went on a rant about this.

@sakshamtyagi9652 8 ай бұрын

Honey the disagreement in this case is literally a mf taking away my rights and actively pushing trans kids towards sh or s*icide

@ladyhades98 8 ай бұрын

Mario absolutely deserved to speak his point and be heard literally the definition of a debate is to let both sides speak

@adriennedraper3393 8 ай бұрын

Can we get this with lesbians?

@machellovelivelife658 8 ай бұрын

who would you suggest as the line up?

@Emily-zm6qt 8 ай бұрын

@@machellovelivelife658probably a group of lesbians

@BeeDrill.. 8 ай бұрын

Yess

@GIRLZ-ARE-HAWT 8 ай бұрын

@@machellovelivelife658obviously lesbians

@Reagan_Sanders 8 ай бұрын

@@machellovelivelife658Arielle Scarcella

@lavieestunsonge4541 6 ай бұрын

I have often thought about how “over-sexualized” the community is. And it is problematic because, it perpetuates stereotypes and sends the message that “if you don’t look like this, you aren’t desirable” and what is so crazy is that we see so many other gay men judging you because you don’t look like the “ideal” when many don’t look like it either. lol

@FemboyKaiSaku Ай бұрын

there's also homophobic reasons for that like as a femboy, it can be sometimes difficult to not look for s3xual validation as a way to just feel happier, due to dealing with homophobia all the time

@imeldacastellanos334 5 ай бұрын

I hate that they keep saying “ privilege “ like it’s a bad thing. Thank your lucky stars that you are privileged and that you can do things that some people can’t. Be grateful and stay humble

@FemboyKaiSaku Ай бұрын

but it's interesting, its often privileged gay people who are conservatives, because obviously they aren't dealing with homophobia, and they dgaf about people who do

@Kerem-mf9oy 25 күн бұрын

@@FemboyKaiSakuWhat...? Um chile anyways so

@caffeinatedshawty 8 ай бұрын

really want conservative lesbians vs liberal lesbians!!

@len-1768 8 ай бұрын

Seconded. Fingers crossed Jubilee does this episode.

@mila-evans 8 ай бұрын

Or Radical Feminist vs Liberal Feminist

@samu-chan 8 ай бұрын

Nah

@fate8007 8 ай бұрын

@@mila-evans radical feminism is very broad. Some of them are Marists others are just TERFS

@lunoxec 8 ай бұрын

im pretty sure this is coming otherwise it wouldn't be fair if only the gays got this topic of middle ground lol

@Soulessblur 8 ай бұрын

The way most of them sobered up and apologized about their reaction to the affirming care question is refreshing to see. I don't think I've seen that in any other Middle Ground episode thus far.

@V1LL1N 8 ай бұрын

Yes it showed exactly the potential to still move forward despite not getting anywhere :). It was a happy ending, which I didnt think was gonna happen at all!

@dewilew2137 8 ай бұрын

The curly haired guy didn’t apologize. He was absolutely insufferable.

@Soulessblur 8 ай бұрын

@@dewilew2137 we don't talk about Bruno

@janetbrooks3634 8 ай бұрын

I just wonder if it was a genuine apology or was it because he knew the way he had acted was gonna cause major backlash from both sides.🤔

@V1LL1N 8 ай бұрын

I too considered this possibility!@@janetbrooks3634

@calvinlogan7378 7 ай бұрын

I was expecting to disagree with Clarkson so much but honestly he and everyone was so respectful and thoughtful in their responses

@perryrush6563 6 ай бұрын

May I inquire as to what issues/presenation/responses you expected and what aspects you thought you would have disagreed about?

@calebpavlicek3419 15 күн бұрын

This mf Mario put together 7 pride events, multiple drag shows, and passed legislation thought he was about to say he’s been to space next 😭

@andrewvelazquez7179 8 ай бұрын

I can agree with pride being oversexualized, especially in NYC. I saw so many penises in public, on the streets, people having sex, it was actually very uncomfortable and I haven't returned to a pride since then.

@PaulThePandaren 8 ай бұрын

I didn't see any this year at NYC Pride. Only saw four people dressed inappropriately in the 13 hours I was out that day in all of the hundreds of thousands of people I saw. Where did you see this? On TikTok, KZfaq, or in person?

@user-kx7ip1tp7w 8 ай бұрын

@@PaulThePandarenI think op was referring to in person

@andrewvelazquez7179 8 ай бұрын

@@PaulThePandaren in person

@baz3575 8 ай бұрын

Back in the 90s I used to see gay men jumping into the urinals to be p***ed at and men walking around in women's lingerie mastubating to twinks at the Pride parties. They were meant to be 18+ but we all know gay bars barely check ID. It was always insane, it's nothing new.

@mia_williams 8 ай бұрын

@@PaulThePandarenkey words returned to pride, they were there in person. regardless of your experience there are pride events where people take it too far, and it’s not a bad thing to have a conversation about that. Also even if it was on social media, which I’ve seen tons, it’s still just as bad.

@Corfoo 8 ай бұрын

This whole conversation was a great watch. Much respect to these guys for standing up for what they believe in while also apologizing when they know they've crossed a line.

@ryancraig9352 8 ай бұрын

I find it pathetic.

@starsas2889 8 ай бұрын

@@ryancraig9352 me too.

@starsas2889 8 ай бұрын

no.

@taeulen 8 ай бұрын

@@ryancraig9352What do you find pathetic?

@ruzgar1372 8 ай бұрын

@@taeulen I doubt that it's about them having a balanced and respectful conversation with eachother but rather the fact that they are gay.

@EmmaAndEmmaAndEmma 6 ай бұрын

Kai is a gem and a sweetheart and must be protected at all costs. 😭

@katiecherry7376 6 ай бұрын

This was such a well spoken, respectful, empathetic, and caring conversation.. probably my favorite jubilee episode. It’s so rare to see people coming from opposite sides/perspectives of an issue actually be respectful and empathetic towards the opposite side

@Ladystardustt 8 ай бұрын

I'd love to see a conservative teachers vs liberal parents

@verotheal-zq6ie 8 ай бұрын

or conservative parents vs liberal teachers

@welsh_callum 8 ай бұрын

@@verotheal-zq6ie They already did that one I think

@briannaxo444 8 ай бұрын

me too, also I LOVE YOUR LANA PFP 💕

@bonnieee16 8 ай бұрын

Been done

@suitcase6698 8 ай бұрын

@@verotheal-zq6iethey already did that one

@parils1607 8 ай бұрын

No hate but I feel like it's crazy to say that a business shouldn't try to stop you from having sex in their bathroom

@wesxolddd 8 ай бұрын

I don't care. I make superior content 😂

@juliusfishman7222 8 ай бұрын

Lol logic don't work with this people

@itsnatemate7697 8 ай бұрын

I think what I got from that statement that it’s more of the “double standards”

@pnut3844able 8 ай бұрын

Yep

@xx_HI_xx7 8 ай бұрын

@itsnatemate7697 not really. We still stop straight people and shame them for this. Recent well known example. Cop with a lady in his squad car.

@ciara2892 6 ай бұрын

As a lesbian who isn’t attracted to trans women, I appreciated not being called a transphobe. Thanks guys

@zaddyrat3476 5 ай бұрын

Want a cookie that’s just your preference

@ciara2892 5 ай бұрын

@@zaddyrat3476 exactly???? That’s my point???? Do you want a cookie for being able to read???

@ComplexConfiguration 5 ай бұрын

@@zaddyrat3476 Triggered much?

@zaddyrat3476 5 ай бұрын

@@ComplexConfigurationnah my response was tame idk why y’all are so pressed lmao

@ciara2892 4 ай бұрын

@zaddyrat3476 as if lmao, I think you’re projecting a little

@asyourequested 5 ай бұрын

I really appreciated this episode. Very emotional topics. Love middle ground and happy to see discourse for all walks of life. This is very cathartic. Hopefully, the conversation doesn't stop here.

@harpieclan1950 8 ай бұрын

I love seeing other gay men having a healthy conversation. We can disagree but we should come together. The battle isn’t against each other

@0hffs 8 ай бұрын

👀 i’m sorry but what? There’s all sorts of flavors and backgrounds also in the queer community and we ain’t all gonna get along either. Don’t care how much Dolly Parton and Britney Spears you put into the mix. We do have conversations to hash out amongst our very own.

@hannariel 8 ай бұрын

@@0hffs They talking about the gays and not the "Queers".

@BrekkaJones24 7 ай бұрын

Yeah we coming together alright 😅

@Golems_wrath 7 ай бұрын

That's insanity.

@marvinmiller2983 7 ай бұрын

Gotta hand it to Ryan, even though I generally didn't agree with what him or the other liberals were saying, nor did I like the way he acted when they talked about gender affirming care, my respect for him grew immensely when he owned up to his mistakes and apologized.

@Westernsizzlin 8 ай бұрын

I’m a gay liberal, and I agree more with the conservative side. We have lost touch with reality. The way you get called names and painted in a bad light is insane.

@hider23232 8 ай бұрын

Gay conservative lmao

@miliba 8 ай бұрын

@@hider23232 Whats the matter? Are those words making your little brain implode?

@fathergascoigne6104 8 ай бұрын

@@milibayes because conservatives actively oppose being gay

@linger4605 8 ай бұрын

@@hider23232It's funny how he called your type out and here you are. I'm a gay moderate that'll drag either sides stupidity, so I'm dragging you now.

@hider23232 8 ай бұрын

@@linger4605 what did I say that’s incorrect

@Caleb17-ym6pq 5 ай бұрын

Puberty-blockers are not reversible. Where are they getting this information? In the past, kids have been put on puberty-blockers to stop early puberty (a little girl who is 8-10 should not be having her period), that is what it was made for and they looked for alternatives before putting them on puberty-blockers as well because of the effects that puberty-blockers have on the body. Children under 18 should not be medically transitioning (blockers, hormones, surgeries, etc.). Period. It is complicated and is a slippery slope with adults, why allow children to go through it?

@user-ct7st3mx7m 2 ай бұрын

This was cisgender children not transgender.

@TheInsane104 2 ай бұрын

@@user-ct7st3mx7mOP’s point is that PBs aren’t desirable even in cis kids, because of the side effects even when being used for such a short term. People are worried about the side effects of using PBs for the ENTIRETY of puberty.

@kate7413 2 ай бұрын

@@user-ct7st3mx7mit's the same body, to make a transition first you need to be "cisgender" , we are talking about the human body in general no about cis or trans

@toutmoncoeur 24 күн бұрын

Exactly. Young girls are more impressionable. The gay guys are upset bc testosterone puberty is harder to undo. But comparing regretting a nose job, to a double mastectomy, a mutilated body and the possibility of not being able to birth your child. Shows how off their reasoning is regarding the female consequences of this u.s. crazy to mutilate bodies.

@Protectereli 7 ай бұрын

You know what...I expected this to be chaotic but this was one of the most wholesome Jubilee debates.

@ebonyzoe 8 ай бұрын

We need an all females version of this now!

@erenjaeger1738 8 ай бұрын

I could see that already. Arielle scarcella is definitely the type to get in jubilee again. She would ask the "liberals" what does a lesbian mean.

@halloweengirl5523 8 ай бұрын

Yesss!! Definitely

@Naadeneo 8 ай бұрын

I had that thought as well

@gillowens24 8 ай бұрын

True 🏳️‍🌈

@celestialmorpho 8 ай бұрын

@@erenjaeger1738a valid question

@whitneytan2330 8 ай бұрын

The third prompt really exemplifies the beauty of Middle Ground. People got really passionate and intense about their positions, but at the end, most were respectful, and even willing to admit that they let their emotions get the better of them.

@ksw961 8 ай бұрын

except berrett wasn't so respectful

@hiig2667 8 ай бұрын

@@ksw961 exactly he was being annoying. Kept cutting off anyone he didn't agree with and accused the other guy of "interalized homophobia" for not agreeing with his beliefs. No one else did that 💀

@sydneyclark1135 8 ай бұрын

@@hiig2667i usually like barrett’s takes and i follow him on tiktok, but i have to agree with you on this.

@raimeyewens7518 8 ай бұрын

@@hiig2667even with half the room telling him to wait for his turn he kept running his mouth. So annoying. Such a prat.

@NikolaGog0l 8 ай бұрын

@@hiig2667honestly i cringed so hard

@outsideaglass 6 ай бұрын

Side note: I love what Jubilee's done with this. The prompt in the corner, great! And it wasn't in this video but in the conversative vs liberal lesbian video I came from it was, with the names and idealogical side of the person talking while they're talking, super helpful.

@BusyAcreHomestead 3 ай бұрын

As a straight person, I don’t even want to see straight people full nudity in public. This is such a wonderful debate. I loved watching it. Thank you for educating many of us.

@sarac.3568 8 ай бұрын

I love how all these young gay guys tell the gay guy who went through all of it, how he doesn't understand how unfortunate they are.

@hillbillysamurai 8 ай бұрын

I'm still mad over that

@nonename7869 8 ай бұрын

Mario was the best. Great example they should follow. If not for gays like him they wouldn't have the space today. I'm straight but an ally since the 90s and know how rude straight people were to gays in those days.

@flamingosaregreat 8 ай бұрын

I thought that. It was really disrespectful

@CrankyBarista 8 ай бұрын

To tell someone their real life experience isnt reality, is not only insulting but narcissistic.

@JMBBrasil 8 ай бұрын

Yeah. They are so arrogant.

@Orius25 8 ай бұрын

Not having the older generation represented here was a huge missed opportunity. The idea that they may default conservative is a wrongful assumption. There was so much talk of the historical legacy of LGBT community in this MG but there were no people who survived the HIV years to talk about what the community was like back then. The community now is SO polarized and fractured into identity camps, I find that the only escape is to talk to people from the older generation who understand the nuances.

@Ceerads 8 ай бұрын

Yes, and thank you! I’m straight (woman) but old now and lived through the AIDS epidemic, as many of my coworkers then were gay men (and lesbians). I’m also in NYC and remember Stonewall.

@baz3575 8 ай бұрын

Let's not BS each other - the "community" was always fractured. The gay guys in the scene always looked down on the lesbians until the lesbians stepped up to help them through the AIDS crisis. Now many of the older guys who survived have thrown lesbians, women and kids under the bus to advocate for "trans rights" in sports out of white guilt and survivor guilt knowing they never gave a damn about trans people back than. I have stories for days over the decades, the polarisation is nothing new it's just visible.

@thebatonmaster 8 ай бұрын

Agreed, but the gentleman in white heels (Mario) was a little bit older I think. He looked young but I'm guessing he may have been past 50.

@nicolenewsome4863 8 ай бұрын

Yeah I think Mario is older. But, btw where is Buck Angel in this I know he's at least 50.

@devonferris 8 ай бұрын

I AGREE

@muhgie 7 ай бұрын

I appreciate how intelligent these men are. They all shared their personal perspectives and made sure to listen to the anecdotal experiences of the other. Makes me happy to see the level of respect that they had for one another.

@osbaldoavila9843 6 ай бұрын

Out of the 2 blonde blue eyed white gay guys. Why do I like the conservative one way better

@gummynoodles9036 8 ай бұрын

Probably the best group of people that’s ever been invited 😂

@eugenetswong 8 ай бұрын

I think that the rival gangs episode was the best.

@shuttershots2188 8 ай бұрын

Except Barrett. He was so rude.

@gabmaye 8 ай бұрын

Agreed, this was an excellent group!

@RaineMateo 8 ай бұрын

The group of religious leaders and scientists was the best group invited on my opinion. It's sad tho that it was short

@malbasedvalentine3210 8 ай бұрын

Except the title is misleading…there was literally no conservative in this video. All of them were liberal, and the “conservatives” were merely cleaner liberals.

@ourcorrectopinions6824 8 ай бұрын

Mario is a winner for keeping his composure whilst being verbally assaulted time and again. Barret should've been kicked out for refusing to let him speak and for flouting basic etiquette of adult conversation (let alone debate). What's the point of a moderator who fails to moderate?

@AbdulMannan-jx1yc 8 ай бұрын

Mario was the best one tbh. His arguements were the most valid honestly.

@saijenkins3416 8 ай бұрын

It was amir ....

@proctoscopefilms 8 ай бұрын

There's always someone that comes in HOT looking to argue lol Barrett and the Hawaiian shirt dude were definitely that guy today lol

@maniacal1870 8 ай бұрын

Barret is an insufferable twerp. I caught myself yelling at my monitor so many times. He is either EXTREMELY sheltered or just a bald-faced liar.

@Awesomeficationify 8 ай бұрын

I don't want there to be 0 push-back in these because that resolves nothing. I think Hawaiian-shirt-guy offered a reasonable level of amiable disagreement. And while I like Barret for his other work online, I agree he came to this waaaay to sour. You could see on his face how upset he was below the surface.

@joemusicvault 6 ай бұрын

This was a great conversation! even in the heated moments, there was a sense of "hearing each other out" and understanding everyone's point of view. I felt at times that everyone agreed on something, whether it was more liberal or conservative. That's definitely the middle ground.

@sodasansbulle 4 ай бұрын

I think I’m becoming addict to the program! Haha Thank u, for the quality and particularly here with the respect between each talkers :)

@rigormortis9881 8 ай бұрын

Love how Barrett is asking for specific numbers and statistics while providing none.

@2Bdiscovered 8 ай бұрын

EXACTLY, AND KEPT SAYING "I THINK" IN HIS RESPONSES, RATHER THAN STATING FACTS.

@binaryvoid0101 8 ай бұрын

Well, to be fair, no one asked him. Ryan was probably the most prepared when it came to stats.

@rigormortis9881 8 ай бұрын

@@binaryvoid0101 yeah but if you disregard what people say because they didn't give numbers then you should give some of your own to support your claims. Also he went on to block both Amir and Clarkson after this for no reason. He clearly didn't come to discuss and learn like Ryan. He thinks he's better than everybody else.

@2Bdiscovered 8 ай бұрын

UPDATE: I REALIZE NOW WHY BARRETT ACTED THE WAY HE DID. THREE OF THOSE CONSERVATIVE MEN HAVE VERY QUESTIONABLE SOCIAL MEDIA. SO, AFTER SEEING THAT, I UNDERSTAND WHY HE ACTED THE WAY HE DID. THOSE GUYS ARE QUITE DISGUSTING TBH.

@turtleegg7152 8 ай бұрын

@@rigormortis9881He is better than those fools.

@jsisaacs1 8 ай бұрын

We need some older voices in these. It would be nice to see the views of an older generation that has seen decades of change and can speak to the progress or lack there of on these issues. Not just for this episode but for all future middle ground episodes.

@varany3376 8 ай бұрын

@@lplphgtdgvsfdsvjhjiuhjhmgfgfhg wtf we younger gen literally "debated" kink at pride, while the older gen know that it has to be there to destigmatize it. If anyone it's us who is out of touch. We debate labels and flags, while they were active in destigmatizing AIDS and protested so we get help to fight AIDS, to fight homophobia-caused homelessness and many other very real problems in our society. It's totally out of touch to think the elders are out of touch, when they got us through the doors.

@mitch103178 8 ай бұрын

@@lplphgtdgvsfdsvjhjiuhjhmgfgfhgolder straight people maybe.

@leguminous7564 8 ай бұрын

Older people would be disproportionately conservative. I think the mix of younger and middle aged people in this panel worked better.

@szasbaddest1 8 ай бұрын

@@lplphgtdgvsfdsvjhjiuhjhmgfgfhg "usually" is the key-word.

@arturo9610 8 ай бұрын

And younger people are disproportionately liberal. The point stands that it would be a wider range of equally valid opinions.

@neeko2198 7 ай бұрын

Wow. I loved this video. Wow. I wish more questions were asked. Can we have them all back for a part two!??

@mariopresents 6 ай бұрын

I'd be down.

@3DoodlesKitchen 4 ай бұрын

22:00 pausing puberty has horrendous effects on the body’s development. Trans people are now having their pelvic floors collapse, having surgery when you were young guarantees you have to continue having surgeries for the rest of your life, and their health is completely being affected. Unfortunately, you’re gonna have to have enough people that this happens to speak up before guys (like the redhead) actually hear them.

@samantharodgers8312 8 ай бұрын

Over-sexualization is a human problem, just like violence. Look at all the issues they're having in Japan with pornography, we need to learn to start taking sex more seriously and understanding it has effects on our minds that we don't quite understand yet and we need to do more research into.

@peps1943 7 ай бұрын

What's up with Japan??

@euphoricmonk 7 ай бұрын

What issues are they having with Porno in Japan?? It's mostly a hidden culture, in the US you see hookers on main streets.

@keymango 7 ай бұрын

@@euphoricmonkLook up Hentai. End of sentence.

@Maliceless100 7 ай бұрын

Survival of the fittest. Over sexualization is there for us to reject or embrace; some will inevitably suffer its harms.

@samantharodgers8312 7 ай бұрын

@@Maliceless100 well I guess in your view then we should just legalize everything. Unfortunately you can't progress a society that way.

@ZenzoSezSo 8 ай бұрын

Tyshaun's face at 20:23 is me when any discussion gets even a little bit spicy

@SmileyAdventures 8 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 SAME!!! 😮😅😮

@iihh517 8 ай бұрын

Just enjoying the drama without interfering or anything. Guys like that are typical backstabbers

@uwannadance1971 8 ай бұрын

Really showed his age.

@itsnatemate7697 8 ай бұрын

@@uwannadance1971How? Is he not allowed to be flummoxed? He didn’t burst out laughing or interrupt anyone

@itsnatemate7697 8 ай бұрын

@@iihh517that doesn’t make any sense

@MrNeilTV 4 ай бұрын

I’m sorry, Barret I would never associate with and is EXACTLY why I take a step back from the community. Clarkson gives me hope.

@danieljuarez4762 6 ай бұрын

The girls are fightinnnggg

@LauraJinkins-pi8sv 2 ай бұрын

did I give Ariani?

@zanelandin 8 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for having me on! It was an incredible experience!

@suntzu751 8 ай бұрын

You were super cool!

@zanelandin 8 ай бұрын

@@suntzu751Aww! Thank you! ❤

@RsYoutubeArchive-xd8hy 8 ай бұрын

Cutie

@shallyhutch4032 8 ай бұрын

You were amazing ❤

@user-sh2rc5kc7x 8 ай бұрын

You were fair and balanced also respectful of everyone which is most important

@marcmoon1228 8 ай бұрын

For me being gay is simply being attracted to my same sex. Anything more than that is just the culture made by gay people which I necessarily dont have to participate in.

@sammyurom8399 8 ай бұрын

Exactly 💯

@Paul2377 8 ай бұрын

True, but I still find I have an affinitiy with a lot of gay people (not all), mostly due to a lot of shared experiences. Straight people can be allies, but they'll never truly get it like another gay person will.

@johnindigo5477 8 ай бұрын

@@Paul2377facts

@emir5009 8 ай бұрын

Yep

@maryk3038 8 ай бұрын

well the attraction to genders is also a cultural made up thing. being gay is attraction to your same sex...

@user-gz3ht4np3y 5 ай бұрын

This was one of the most productive, civil discourse - thank all of you.

@Juskemper12 7 ай бұрын

I really liked this one, i think both sides portrayed themselves well and for the most part were very respectful. As someone who sits somewhat in the middle on most of these topics, I enjoyed hearing both sides point of views.

@FoxyGal18 8 ай бұрын

Wow, I'm amazed that half of the gay liberals agree with the gay conservatives on how the gay community has become over sexualized. I hope that's a sign for positive change to come.

@Forge17 8 ай бұрын

It’s unspoken but that’s been the majority opinion for a while in the circles I’ve been in.

@vp9549 8 ай бұрын

It's straight people that have oversexualized the very existence of gay people. This has always been the case.

@swedishfish6505 8 ай бұрын

I think you would be surprised at how much you would actually agree with someone who may stand on the opposite side.

@soph1645 8 ай бұрын

I thinl gay pwople know they have been over sexualized for a long time😂

@mary-janereallynotsarah684 8 ай бұрын

I hope so too! ❤

@Meli-1992 8 ай бұрын

Clarkson is so respectful and well spoken. Really enjoyed this discussion.

@lemontool 8 ай бұрын

Yes!

@thomaspeterson6097 8 ай бұрын

Fr he's my type

@hbicolenna6745 8 ай бұрын

He’s not respectful on his tiktok lol

@eric5735 8 ай бұрын

Ew no

@That_Grem_Kuro 8 ай бұрын

He’s not respectful at all. He is extremely condescending and privileged in how he speaks on the issues

@rhiannonmoline4303 7 ай бұрын

this one was so refreshing to watch

@Cathodoxism 7 ай бұрын

This is one of the best talks I’ve ever seen on this show

@penny4279 8 ай бұрын

The way Barrett was BOILING when they said that dating preference are personal preferences 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@breadfan_85 7 ай бұрын

Someone who's entire identity is wrapped up in being a circuit twink.

@CallOutToJesus_Romans10_13 7 ай бұрын

Maybe Barret should be made to date women. See how he feels then.

@queenmiepje 7 ай бұрын

@@CallOutToJesus_Romans10_13 ...Trans men are men. Not women.

@AndromedaChace 7 ай бұрын

@@CallOutToJesus_Romans10_13he has

@Random-sk6hm 7 ай бұрын

Is that the curly haired guy? I'm liberal but he was being a little annoying with getting too passionate and not letting people talk

@TrunkyDunks 8 ай бұрын

Both of my uncles are gay. Survived the AIDS epidemic and all that. They both say that over sexualizing the movement was the worst thing that could have happened. They just wanted to marry their partners. Didnt want to be praised, just treated equally. When they got that, thats it. They saw it as a win and called it a day.

@leonyame2254 8 ай бұрын

In Gay Land that's called "hetero normativity". Very few gays want that these days. And the ones that do get a partner try to be greedy and invite other men to have sex with them. At one point i was thinking about castration because I'm really dissatisfied. My friends told me "If you want a real relationship learn to be attracted to women. And be promiscuous until you find someone you get on with." Sorry about this rant; i missed therapy this week.🙁

@teamtundra2619 8 ай бұрын

@@leonyame2254what

@teamtundra2619 8 ай бұрын

@TrunkyDunks heterosexuals are just as sexualized

@leonyame2254 8 ай бұрын

@@teamtundra2619 Why does being human have to be so difficult? I've seen how other species mate. The only ones that struggle like us are spiders and maybe deer....🙄

@theresurrection33 8 ай бұрын

Being gay is literally wanna have sex with men. Sicken

@StevenFlorindo 4 ай бұрын

They did wonderfully. So glad to see our community being able to have these tough conversations

@augustgunnarsson6920 7 ай бұрын

Great people, and a greater video. Incredible, thanks for the education and understanding of both sides.

@Babay0ga 7 ай бұрын

This was a great discussion - I felt Kai was the bridge here for all and he was so beautifully spoken and calm

@WhatsCookingTime 6 ай бұрын

Yeah I noticed that too

@Qichiquiche 8 ай бұрын

I like Brett as a content creator but he is a prime example of why shower debates don’t work. When you spend the majority of your time making statements and arguments in an empty room to a phone you don’t have the experience needed to sit and listen and meet people where they’re at.

@zavixonhd4347 7 ай бұрын

a debate isnt a conversation

@Qichiquiche 7 ай бұрын

@@zavixonhd4347 yeah. A shower debate in this case is just referring to when you have arguments, debates, conversations, back-and-forths, whatever you wanna call it, with no one who can respond to you in real time. My point still stands

@slqvic 7 ай бұрын

Barrett was SO irritating. regardless of opinion or view, he just kept interrupting everyone and i think ruined the whole debate

@lvcifer999 7 ай бұрын

Children aren't capable of making lifetime decisions, so i agree with Mario on that matter.

@Jack_Horner 3 ай бұрын

Yeah, Barrett is an absolute freak

@geeunit831 8 ай бұрын

As a Gay Liberal I was so embarrassed to have Barrett representing us. He was rude, obnoxious and totally unprepared for the topics of this debate. When he mentioned Marcia P. Johnson "throwing the first brick" I nearly choked. I hate to say it but I really appreciated the decorum and well articulated points from the Conservatives on the panel.

@void405 8 ай бұрын

I think it's that kind of nuance that marks the difference with how people perceive the LGBT community. Blaire White gains a lot more respect than Dylan M. because they have nuance as a trans person who understands that not all aspects of LGBT expression is appropriate for children.

@maichai13 8 ай бұрын

He doesn't represent you. He represents himself. Another black woman doesn't represent me...I represent me. We gotta get away from the monolith mentality.

@spiderandy1778 8 ай бұрын

yes honestly i was so irritated by him the whole time. why can’t you just listen when someone else is talking! i don’t care who you side with, he was so rude and disrespectful

@roxienatura 8 ай бұрын

Barrett was more informed on the issues than a lot of other panelists tbh, he just didn’t cower when some of them started spouting misinformation. Which I guess is off putting, but that misinformation needed to be checked.

@geeunit831 8 ай бұрын

@@void405 I was saddened to see how rude and condescending a lot of the Liberals on the panel were. Especially Barrett and the red head. We're never going to bridge that gap when we can't even have a civil discussion about such important topics. In order to make change we need to work together. The Libs were so divisive and came across petulant and immature.

@donsryche1 8 ай бұрын

As a straight guy, I want to say this may have been one of the most informative videos I have ever seen in the 20 years that KZfaq has been around. Thank you.

@tannerheyl2537 8 ай бұрын

Agreed

@VocaloidM1 8 ай бұрын

As a gay guy it's nice to see the interest and research about a subject that doesn't directly affect you but wanna be informed about!

@KLee1028 7 ай бұрын

Your open mind is much appreciated!

@a4rules2 7 ай бұрын

youtube hasnt been around for 20 years sweetheart

@ASparkleross 7 ай бұрын

@@a4rules2 Eighteen years to be exact. So, damn near 20.

@hearts16 6 ай бұрын

They were literally mad that the conservative guy said he doesn’t get hate when he’s openly gay. They should be happy about that, yet they wanted him to be discriminated against. Shows they don’t want to hear when gay people are accepted.

@omolayoanjorin 7 ай бұрын

Ryan was extremely brilliant in this episode. His last statement of "I should" versus "what serves us best", applies to everything in life

@PizzaFvngs 8 ай бұрын

Everyone was so respectful except for Denim Vest dude, straight up arrogance all around. Dude has one of the most passive aggressive superiority complexes I've personally seen on this channel.

@buttercupVT 8 ай бұрын

His ig is scary rn too, it feels unsafe

@terrancecloverfield6791 8 ай бұрын

For the record to other people. The person in context is Barrett. I don't think he's arrogant but it's clear he hasn't been chin-checked by the knuckles of reality that don't like being interrupted while talking. Mario did a great job holding back because in another reality, the chin-checking would have happened.

@jackwilkins7972 8 ай бұрын

Its always the white gays

@Naadeneo 8 ай бұрын

Like Idiotacracy he only cares for his hair and erections.

@Naadeneo 8 ай бұрын

What's more he blocked Amir and Clarkson, crap talked Mario, then on Tiktok said he cried on the way home

@redcoresuperstar 7 ай бұрын

People like Barrett baffle me. How can you claim that you're so empathetic to trans people and in the same breath be so utterly heartless to the struggles of detransitioners?

@zavixonhd4347 7 ай бұрын

bec detransitioners commonly use their platform to bash other trans ppl

@TillerTH 7 ай бұрын

Virtue signaling

@sup8056 7 ай бұрын

Because he tries to come off as very inclusive but he really isn't

@minniemystic7185 7 ай бұрын

Kindof hard to be sympathetic towards a group of people being used to justify hate against an already marginalized group of people…

@theseukonnen1200 7 ай бұрын

Conservatives do not genuinely care about detransitioners except to the extent that they can be used as a weapon against trans people. The anger is not with the detransitioners, it's with the bad faith. Ironically, the branch of medicine that would best serve the needs of the very small percentage of people who decide that detransitioning is correct for them would be best served by advancements in the medical technology of trans healthcare itself, which is precisely what the people pretending to care so much about detransitioners actively oppose.

@JustinProper 6 ай бұрын

This was by far my favorite Jubilee conversation. Everyone was respectful, kept each other in check, & I would love to have a beer with all of them.

@ellabellaboom4537 Ай бұрын

Everyone?

@757drelc 7 ай бұрын

I've been watching all these videos and these conversations are amazing!

@wolfhawk1999 8 ай бұрын

I don't think it's too much to ask for someone to not give a public blowie at a pride parade

@mlw9195 8 ай бұрын

Your homophobic

@SarahSarah-rf9ik 8 ай бұрын

tell me you have never been to gay pride without telling me

@baph3963 8 ай бұрын

@@SarahSarah-rf9ikI have been to one, and I’ve seen it. Jockstraps thongs, pasties and all

@mlw9195 8 ай бұрын

@@SarahSarah-rf9ik bro we’ve seen them

@VLT. 8 ай бұрын

I think something that made everything go wrong in this episode was someone being unable to stay silent and listen even if they disagreed strongly to what was being said. If you want your point to be heard and understood, you have to make people WANT to listen to you. If you interject when someone is trying to talk time and time again, people aren’t gonna take you seriously or want to listen to you. This is a lesson for everybody.

@driftingdandelion 8 ай бұрын

fr that guy was so annoying

@devonferris 8 ай бұрын

You are referring to BARRETT. Yea I found him annoying too and disrespectful.

@Yodaddi_13 8 ай бұрын

Typical example of a emotional guided liberal…

@drastically143 8 ай бұрын

It was disgusting. Two of them can't listen and other making faces, disgusting. You do not do conversations like that. UPD. But i need to say that in other instances everyone was respectful and polite and i think i'm overreacting to this one instance. The ending was very pleasant.

@VLT. 8 ай бұрын

@@devonferrisJust to clarify, I fully understand why he’d be livid about the fact that they passed a law that harms kids because of a very little portion of people who regretted their decisions. Me personally I’d be angry as well. But after the first or even the second time I’ve been told to hold back until it’s my turn, I’d shut my mouth so I can get my point out. Barrett messed up heavily by interrupting several times. While I understand him, he executed it in the wrong way.

@victoria_lmaolol 4 ай бұрын

this one was such a respectful and wholesome discussion, loved it :)

@AveriesMiranda 5 ай бұрын

I loved these guys and this discussion 👏🏼

@graftme3168 8 ай бұрын

Whenever someone says, "shame on you" in a debate, he has told everyone else that his opinion is superior and has shut down everyone else's opinion. He cannot be taken seriously from that point on. I would never debate that guy and nobody else should either. He has issues and nobody can break through a guy like that.

@tomhayes413 8 ай бұрын

Can't blame him for saying that tho

@graftme3168 8 ай бұрын

@@tomhayes413 I guess that's a matter of opinion.

@zach6138 8 ай бұрын

he expressed emotion and also became very self aware and apologized for stepping over his own line there

@GwyndOwO 8 ай бұрын

@@graftme3168it's not. Being proud that you're the reason why a girl k*lled herself because whilst all of her girl peers were getting breasts but she was getting a beard, that is inherently monstrous and should be shamed

@ripplenipple1494 8 ай бұрын

This entire comment section is full of people concluding that just because something is icky, it’s bad. To everyone who feels that way: your feelings aren’t basis for public policy. Stfu and get over it

@kalamari3288 8 ай бұрын

Ben Shapiro vs Destiny seems like an amazing video waiting to happen. Glad Jubilee is willing to facilitate a video like that!

@TimothyD 8 ай бұрын

Shapiro vs Hasan would be better imo.

@zigurdur92 8 ай бұрын

@@TimothyDthree way Hasan vs Ben vs Destiny

@bkbobbyjoe6493 8 ай бұрын

@@TimothyDI think Hassan self admittedly doesn’t have the debate talent to be able to keep up with someone fast like Ben

@yolkthosenuts 8 ай бұрын

@@zigurdur92 i'd love to see a threeway will those hunks

@Thehistoricalphilosopher 8 ай бұрын

@@bkbobbyjoe6493 why do you think that?

@lamho19871 6 ай бұрын

Truly thank you so much for this episode ❤️ such a humane conversation.

@calebwade_ 5 ай бұрын

Would love to see a bisexual middle ground

@Somnivore7 4 ай бұрын

Would be hilarious

@DSS712 8 ай бұрын

This is one of the best episodes so far. I think it helps to disengage a lot of the gatekeeping controversy we are seeing these days, by reminding us that "gay" is just a neutral term referring to the inborn quality of same sex attraction, and that being gay doesn't determine your beliefs, morals, fashion, etc. What a great group of people in this episode.

@Future_Imperfect 8 ай бұрын

As a black person watching PRIDE is like if there was a parade to commemorate Black History and people engaged in the most offensive stereotypes that exist to celebrate.

@Lawlstube 8 ай бұрын

"Annnnnnd here comes the KFC and Hennessy float"

@swiggity6232 8 ай бұрын

ngl that would be fire lmao

@nyctophillia2312 8 ай бұрын

Lol they already did it I think last year. This school served chicken and watermelon for Juneteenth and the parents were pissed 😂😂😂

@millsykooksy4863 8 ай бұрын

😂

@SomeGuy-up4yz 8 ай бұрын

@@nyctophillia2312 based

@azuljadiel8608 3 ай бұрын

i loved this one!!!!! they were all so respectful and loving i loved it!!!!

@ricasa2005 7 ай бұрын

That was very healty tbh. I liked it

@babyboy770 8 ай бұрын

This video shows that no community is monolithic. There are so many layers and experiences in every community. Too bad not enough of these types of conversations don't happen in real life.

@cutirose 8 ай бұрын

LGB is sexuality/attraction & TQ+ is gender identity. Sex can never change. Most straight people do want a fully working organ, in my opinion those that date trans are not completely straight. Also most want to be pregnant and have biological kids of both of both of them.

@paulmacharia458 8 ай бұрын

"I'll clean my house before I tell someone else to clean there's" WHAT A QUOTE

@EddyGordo21 26 күн бұрын

There are children who have been affected by gender assignment surgery, etc. etc. who have regretted that they were allowed to make such permanent decisions on their lives as they have arrived into adult life.