Trans Conservatives vs Trans Liberals | Middle Ground

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Jubilee

Jubilee

Күн бұрын

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0:00 intro
0:28 It is a safety concern for trans women to share a female restroom
16:46 I support the transgender military ban
32:11 Schools should include trans conversation in sex ed
32:24 It's okay for minors to get top surgery
45:51 Non-binary should not be considered under the trans umbrella
59:06 Doctors are manipulating trans medical care
1:11:07 Gender-affirming transition is suicide prevention

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@jubilee
@jubilee 8 ай бұрын
Unreleased prompt only on Patreon: bit.ly/MGpatreon Schools should include trans conversation in Sex Ed -> Agree or Disagree?
@Gosh..
@Gosh.. 8 ай бұрын
Ok
@cantwin8105
@cantwin8105 8 ай бұрын
Well I think we all know how that convo went lol
@zacharythomas8617
@zacharythomas8617 8 ай бұрын
Weak representation, shame on you.
@luisfilipe2023
@luisfilipe2023 8 ай бұрын
I don’t even think sex Ed should be a thing
@sirskorge
@sirskorge 8 ай бұрын
Over my dead body.
@boop99
@boop99 8 ай бұрын
"Do not interrupt a black trans woman when she is speaking" Says the person who interrupted everyone else and was always condescending
@gunther3274
@gunther3274 8 ай бұрын
Talking about privilege 🙄
@en2p187
@en2p187 8 ай бұрын
Also guys check her history, cnn city hall black transwoman coach blossom interrupts mom and body checks her son in passionate intense speech- that's the title I ain't making it up
@snapsf
@snapsf 8 ай бұрын
Well ironically her and blaire were speaking for years 💀. She was making sense in the very beginning then spiraled.
@Fortheloveoforthodoxing
@Fortheloveoforthodoxing 8 ай бұрын
The entitlement is INSANE
@boop99
@boop99 8 ай бұрын
I found the video under the title "Transgender woman makes passionate point at CNN Equality Town Hall." Blossom was certainly annoying but I didn't see anybody body check the kid in the video@@en2p187
@weebofakind2516
@weebofakind2516 7 ай бұрын
As a black person I can say that blossom isn’t treated bad bc of her race or bc she’s trans. ITS YOUR PERSONALITY GURL😂
@georginacook1850
@georginacook1850 7 ай бұрын
She’s so entitled and is a bully
@snakeladytarot
@snakeladytarot 7 ай бұрын
So true. U can tell who became trans and who is trans... Blossom just a play ground bully with boobs. U would rather bully women out our safe spaces than fight your own battles in ur own bathroom.
@MsRahfe
@MsRahfe 7 ай бұрын
wasn't she already in the last video and a lot of comments found her to be quite annoying? :X why was she invited again?
@nashocheese
@nashocheese 7 ай бұрын
I mean... at 1:19:40 when she's straight up ignoring the entire point of the issue to talk about Black people - and that people need to understand that's where she's coming from... that wasn't the issue being talked about, so why self insert so heavily into it...? Hyprocrisy, rudeness, and ignorance is a pretty darn bad cocktail of personality traits.
@luluc6867
@luluc6867 7 ай бұрын
FACTS 🤣😂
@luvrsie143
@luvrsie143 Ай бұрын
"blaire, have you ever worked with trans people?" saying it like she's not a trans women herself, absolutely disgusting.
@28KM
@28KM Ай бұрын
I actually have a load of respect for Blair’s, even though trans is something that I struggle with personally.
@brophwyd
@brophwyd Ай бұрын
I can't believe I'm agreeing with Blaire White
@johnlucas773
@johnlucas773 Ай бұрын
Being one and working with others whom are, are two different things. I don't believe they were negating her personal experience, but asking if she had worked with others directly who were dealing with issues that she may not be dealing with, in order to have empathy and see the diversity of other people's views and experiences that are not her own, while being of service to others. She may be helping others in a different way, as she expressed, by her content and conversations on her social media platform.
@dominiquejenkins5495
@dominiquejenkins5495 24 күн бұрын
Blair should have said naw 😂
@ags5941
@ags5941 22 күн бұрын
Blaire is an intelligent trans person
@lunaxlucyxxx3028
@lunaxlucyxxx3028 Ай бұрын
Dropping out of highschool is not the same as getting a BODY CHANGING surgery. U can always go and finish school you cant always change a body modification
@MaciBrown-jt9py
@MaciBrown-jt9py 21 күн бұрын
THIS.
@sandy80334
@sandy80334 16 күн бұрын
I was just thinking this
@Katelyn-yj4gm
@Katelyn-yj4gm 14 күн бұрын
I was actually yelling this at my phone that comparison was made😵‍💫 I’m glad I’m not the only one that thought it was ridiculous.
@dabondahaterz
@dabondahaterz 9 күн бұрын
@@sandy80334LITERALLY!!
@Melatonin385
@Melatonin385 6 күн бұрын
THIS!!!! I was a drop out but I went back to school through adult ed at 25 and got my high school diploma. You can always go back to school and finish education but you can't reverse getting a body part cut off.
@mayamartinez5805
@mayamartinez5805 8 ай бұрын
You can tell who is here to talk about the safety of the trans community and who is here for the safety of their feelings.
@katherineauber
@katherineauber 8 ай бұрын
Yep
@dejanunn6914
@dejanunn6914 8 ай бұрын
💯Best comment I’ve seen in comments
@r0zugorudo
@r0zugorudo 8 ай бұрын
This needs to be the top comment. Spot on
@keelanmyles
@keelanmyles 8 ай бұрын
Preach! 👏🏿 😂
@Jade-yl9ee
@Jade-yl9ee 8 ай бұрын
💯💯💯
@del7920
@del7920 8 ай бұрын
How dare you cut out the part where Blossom is screaming at Blair White with the director not letting Blair defend herself? She keeps screaming over and over again about Blair’s “whiteness” being an attack on Blossom’s blackness. That’s disgusting Jubilee. Shame on you.
@Deletedspidey1999
@Deletedspidey1999 8 ай бұрын
They showed this in the patreon cut?
@e11anora
@e11anora 8 ай бұрын
where can you find the uncut bit?
@jannahnas
@jannahnas 8 ай бұрын
​@@Deletedspidey1999blaire talked about it on her channel
@elenabob4953
@elenabob4953 8 ай бұрын
I don't care olif Blair talked about it on their own channel, the fact that Jubilee cut this part to defend the other side had NO EXCUSE. If they react like this in public when filmed, how I can feel safe with them in our spaces?
@VeroLaRemix
@VeroLaRemix 8 ай бұрын
​@Deletedspidey1999 there are plenty of people who cannot afford to see the unedited cut. It's pretty disgusting that a company that is liberal that wants to acknowledge its privileges is using a pay platform to protect someone's vile behavior.
@rubinchavarria7173
@rubinchavarria7173 Ай бұрын
The Liberals in this video were absolutely insufferable . The non binary dude shouldn’t be here , Sasha was just some random LA kid that said “Like” , “vibe” , and “I feel like” wayyy too much , Blossom was an absolute embarrassment , and then that last dude was just arrogant and provided nothing but air without substance.
@nowifate
@nowifate 5 күн бұрын
Sasha wasn’t very articulated but he seemed open to learn and find common ground. I wanna give him credit too
@deborahlazreug8735
@deborahlazreug8735 Ай бұрын
That’s a genuine question: I don’t understand how a non-binary person can also be trans? To be trans, literally, you have to have a binary vision of gender identity, no?
@ninashafiee3547
@ninashafiee3547 Ай бұрын
non-binary ppl aren’t cis and therefore they also fall under the trans umbrella.
@deboraluz251
@deboraluz251 Ай бұрын
Yes, and thats why does not make any sense
@DisorderlyVoid
@DisorderlyVoid Ай бұрын
A lot of people identify trans as "not identifying with the sex you were born"
@youdontneedtoreadthis
@youdontneedtoreadthis Ай бұрын
Exactly. Non-binary is not trans by any definition.
@leannebrown02
@leannebrown02 Ай бұрын
No, "transgender" simply means that you don't identify with the gender that you were assigned by society at your birth. Non-binary people were not perceived as non-binary at birth which means they are transgender, not cisgender. You can specify binary trans people if need be depending on the context.
@desertfairyjewelry
@desertfairyjewelry 8 ай бұрын
Blossom thinks people treat her badly because of her skin color, honey it’s YOU. It’s your personality.
@herstudies5488
@herstudies5488 8 ай бұрын
THIS comment !
@erinsmith2713
@erinsmith2713 8 ай бұрын
I'm a black women no trans and it is her personality not her race
@pistachexiaohua6705
@pistachexiaohua6705 8 ай бұрын
You said it ! Blossom was insufferable!
@kamibooable
@kamibooable 8 ай бұрын
i’m a black woman and i 100% agree.
@wehaventevenmet
@wehaventevenmet 7 ай бұрын
THIIIIIIIS
@liaf525
@liaf525 7 ай бұрын
Awh… I cried at “I choose to use the men’s room to protect women.” The sadness in her voice when she says she knows she doesn’t pass. Protect her at all costs.
@NotAdultingToday
@NotAdultingToday 7 ай бұрын
To me jessica does pass. Sarah too! There are women who look like that. The non binary dude I absolutely do not want in the women's bathroom. Home is a cross dresser plain and simple.
@radubradu
@radubradu 7 ай бұрын
*him
@Seevawonderloaf
@Seevawonderloaf 7 ай бұрын
She may not pass but bc her attitude gives me ‘this is a woman’ vibes!! And i generally wouldn’t mind sharing a space with someone who is considerate of her bio female counterparts. THESE are the people i went to protests to support
@Seevawonderloaf
@Seevawonderloaf 7 ай бұрын
@@radubraduplease don’t
@fritziearago9518
@fritziearago9518 7 ай бұрын
If the ''non-binary'' one enter the restroom with me with my little niece here in my hometown , i will definitely walk out. I will be really rude and confront him
@UTubeSporaticUser
@UTubeSporaticUser Ай бұрын
Blossom and Alexander actually think they won the debate. Lol. Completely delusional
@andreaj5067
@andreaj5067 Ай бұрын
Exactly they were both the most delusional and combative
@eastjebus6870
@eastjebus6870 12 күн бұрын
was literally a debate between 6 level headed people and 2 delusional people
@milkhoneybreadwine
@milkhoneybreadwine 4 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@snowyhair9300
@snowyhair9300 Ай бұрын
"I'm supposed to refrigerate it?" had me CACKLING
@norabloomb
@norabloomb 23 күн бұрын
My favorite part of this video
@Sammylife
@Sammylife 18 күн бұрын
It’s at 26:53
@Grape-fruit3
@Grape-fruit3 6 күн бұрын
Same! I was howling 😂😂😂 his face was priceless
@stuff1784
@stuff1784 8 ай бұрын
When Blossom can’t win the victimhood argument based on “I’m trans” she goes into the “I’m black” argument.
@dannyhilarious
@dannyhilarious 8 ай бұрын
From trans-baiting to race-baiting within seconds.
@robnzoekravitson
@robnzoekravitson 8 ай бұрын
Blossom being trans and black, automatically, makes anyone who talks to her privileged and therefore she has struggled a billion times more than anyone in the entire existence of time and space.
@treehouse8501
@treehouse8501 8 ай бұрын
we call her fart blossom
@ManaBunz
@ManaBunz 8 ай бұрын
This is typical of her interviews. It's ok to share the experience, but when your whole conversation boils down to that point every time, it's redundant and seems off-focus.
@robnzoekravitson
@robnzoekravitson 8 ай бұрын
@@ManaBunz The sad part is Blossom probably went through struggle. Her constantly bringing it up, devalues those difficulties and invalidates the strength it probably took to be where she is today.
@metalheadfromslovakia
@metalheadfromslovakia 8 ай бұрын
Dear Blossom, it’s not your gender, it’s not your race… it’s you
@myracarol4114
@myracarol4114 8 ай бұрын
Ugh blossom is the absolute worst. Blossom should for everyone's sake please go away, far far away.
@truthbearingpsychonaut
@truthbearingpsychonaut 8 ай бұрын
That's usually what you like to excuse racism as. She got heated and was a bit emotional, but Blaire was the mean witch here.
@Witerally_Me
@Witerally_Me 8 ай бұрын
@@truthbearingpsychonautjubilee shouldn’t be making these videos if they’re just going to platform conservatives and racists.
@TwinsBigLikeTia
@TwinsBigLikeTia 8 ай бұрын
@@truthbearingpsychonaut Blaire has never been racist 😂 being black just has nothing to do with the debate and topics being discussed. Just pulling another victim card to feed her narcissism. You see it in the libs in all of these debates. Can’t debate with facts and logic so they gotta pull something out to make it about them.
@izabellapollock
@izabellapollock 8 ай бұрын
She’s willfully ignorant and is a bully just to support her own point. Any statistics or valid counter arguments that’s brought up, she denies it. It’s almost gaslighting
@lunaxlucyxxx3028
@lunaxlucyxxx3028 Ай бұрын
Alexander came in LOOKING for a fight, Blair looks away and ur like "look at me!!" Like she doesn't OWE you attention. 😂
@aaronanshu
@aaronanshu 26 күн бұрын
The clown can call Blaire offensive but when she calls him offensive, suddenly Blaire is offensive? It's these people who are ruining the community.
@ijustwannabehappier-v4973
@ijustwannabehappier-v4973 7 ай бұрын
As a black person im so embarrassed by Blossom bringing up the race card out of nowhere, and accusing everyone of white privilege.
@Mysteriuminiquitatis1998
@Mysteriuminiquitatis1998 7 ай бұрын
Don’t be embarrassed. Just because one black person does something does not mean it represents us all. Blossom is not my representative nor are they yours. We as individuals represent ourselves
@halo218813
@halo218813 7 ай бұрын
@@Mysteriuminiquitatis1998 so very well said ❤
@cashcorleone2469
@cashcorleone2469 7 ай бұрын
I was embarrassed the 1st 5 times... after that I was just annoyed 🤦🏽‍♂️
@moldbrain660
@moldbrain660 7 ай бұрын
She really is making her community’s look like crap
@joshcagle2395
@joshcagle2395 7 ай бұрын
You shouldn't be embarrassed. Blossom doesn't speak for you or all black people. She's out for herself.
@DaVinci-wt6dp
@DaVinci-wt6dp 8 ай бұрын
As a liberal, this was definitely embarrassing for the trans liberals. Ya'll literally said nothing persuasive, it was all just subjective, personal arguments or just straight up incoherent.
@Avo_o
@Avo_o 8 ай бұрын
Sameee. It was more personal attacks than actual personal stories.
@meg_khaaan2743
@meg_khaaan2743 8 ай бұрын
It would have been waaay more embarrassing if they hadn’t edited out much of the threats and screaming.
@Princessanafpd
@Princessanafpd 8 ай бұрын
Yesssss, especially the on in black with glasses that looked down at all times lol every time he spoke in that raspy voice he tried to sound smart but all those big words meant nothing together 😅
@LiberalsRuinEverything.
@LiberalsRuinEverything. 8 ай бұрын
But this is how they’ve always been lol this is why most normal people despise the liberal LGBTQ movement. They don’t have a problem with conservative trans people like Blair white though.
@fartmnms
@fartmnms 8 ай бұрын
​@@PrincessanafpdShane I think is his name, true but I do think he has a point. Top surgery for 16+ year olds should be ok. I mean you can learn to drive at 16 so why not be able to remove your breast if you believe it will damage your body. There are plenty of other ways to feed a baby were they to have a child
@CaritheEntertainer
@CaritheEntertainer Ай бұрын
The fact that they have me on the conservatives side for most of this video is APPALLING
@ShrewdPlacebo98
@ShrewdPlacebo98 5 күн бұрын
Nah just means you can’t think for yourself
@teehee440
@teehee440 8 сағат бұрын
@@ShrewdPlacebo98no it means she had common sense
@Jolly9111
@Jolly9111 Ай бұрын
I love how they all occasionally look at Blaire for any kind of affirmation, especially liberals
@BladeoftheSamurott
@BladeoftheSamurott Ай бұрын
I legit noticed the same thing 😅
@thegohmez6816
@thegohmez6816 Ай бұрын
Which is wild because the last person I would need any affirmation from is Blair. She’s a loon.
@sihanbule
@sihanbule 25 күн бұрын
@@thegohmez6816 Blaire is anything but a loon
@BizQAC
@BizQAC 21 күн бұрын
@@thegohmez6816Blair is gorgeous. She’s considerate as well which I love. She tries to see the world from women’s lense. Yes a dude in a dress is scary af in a bathroom and I’d 100% call the cops. You can like it or not, see yourself this way or not, from my vantage unless you appear as a woman if you’re appearing as male you’re a safety threat . can’t take risks where children are vulnerable. Safety is key. Just because you see yourself as a woman doesn’t mean anyone else does.
@teehee440
@teehee440 8 сағат бұрын
@@thegohmez6816she’s smarter than you, more successful than you, and WAYYY hotter than you
@hannahpeden4264
@hannahpeden4264 7 ай бұрын
I literally hate that Blossom can interrupt anyone but no one can interrupt her
@keri1364
@keri1364 7 ай бұрын
And the “moderators” let it happen. I actually couldn’t finish this garbage “debate”
@Jeskers18
@Jeskers18 7 ай бұрын
You mean him. He does not give off any feminine energy
@GypsyInTheHood
@GypsyInTheHood 7 ай бұрын
Total narcissist
@GirlBehindACamera
@GirlBehindACamera 7 ай бұрын
I wouldn't feel comfortable with "blossom" using the female bathroom.
@Zanakiller123
@Zanakiller123 7 ай бұрын
She’s Black !!! Let her speak !!! She’s so oppressed she went to the White House !!! Can’t u see ??
@dararupert7199
@dararupert7199 6 ай бұрын
The fact they wouldn't let Sara speak for so long during the military discussion was unacceptable. She had the actual experience.
@CassieBear1989
@CassieBear1989 6 ай бұрын
I liked how Blair stopped and said that Sara should've talked first about the military debate bc of her experience in the military
@DocBree13
@DocBree13 6 ай бұрын
I agree!
@susanna8612
@susanna8612 6 ай бұрын
She is also smart
@brians1793
@brians1793 6 ай бұрын
That's probably why they didn't want her to speak on it.
@beatriceyup8541
@beatriceyup8541 5 ай бұрын
So frustrating that they won't let her speak. Someone who was in the military.
@cartergirl3of3
@cartergirl3of3 Ай бұрын
Sara is so based. She came ready to roll with all the knowledge
@jadeduran-smith3421
@jadeduran-smith3421 Ай бұрын
I feel like nonbinary people should have their own video bc they have very different issues and pov’s
@hannahloumen2241
@hannahloumen2241 8 ай бұрын
Rule number one: If you want to be respected, show respect to other people.
@dolfincetekege6108
@dolfincetekege6108 8 ай бұрын
It is not possible.
@seekerandthinker
@seekerandthinker 8 ай бұрын
The problem is, both Blossom and Alexander's definition of respect is messed up, it doesn't align with reality, and when we speak facts, it comes out as rude and disrespectful, but fact should be spoken openly. Liberals are re-inventing and re-define words to make it meaningless. What is a woman anyway? Anyone who identify as a woman? Ah yes the floor is made of floor
@schiffer2386
@schiffer2386 8 ай бұрын
Some people don't show you respect even when you respect them. If they don't respect you, don't show respect back
@frickfrack7075
@frickfrack7075 8 ай бұрын
​@@schiffer2386that was OPs point...
@schiffer2386
@schiffer2386 8 ай бұрын
@@frickfrack7075 not really cause that doesn't always work
@joyq1579
@joyq1579 5 ай бұрын
As somebody who's pretty liberal..I was EMBARRASSED. They didn't win any arguments, just derailed valid points. Blossom really thought she ate by bringing her race into this 😭
@kellyperry559
@kellyperry559 5 ай бұрын
Were you actually surprised that he brought race into it?
@reinexalumina9925
@reinexalumina9925 4 ай бұрын
I mean, that's how most "liberals" talk on the internet and in the West, so I wasn't surprised. It's the woke culture. My family is pretty liberal, but I turned conservative because there are far too many extremist "liberals" nowadays. The scream for "tolerance" but can't even tolerate that some people have different ideas that don't agree with them. The only liberals I am thankful for are real liberals whom I can actually have normal conversations with and don't have to always walk on eggshells. People don't always have to agree on things. What matters is how we treat each other and not just call people "Bigots" every time they disagree with you.
@shadowyzephyr
@shadowyzephyr 4 ай бұрын
As a liberal, there are a subset of liberals who try to bring race into everything, and it's really annoying.
@idk-mz3ys
@idk-mz3ys 4 ай бұрын
yeah, same. I think Shane was the only liberal who raised strong, supported arguments against the conservative side, he didn't really get any help from the other liberals tho. I think Blossom was actively hurting the liberal side the whole time by, making herself the Liberal stereotype
@joyq1579
@joyq1579 4 ай бұрын
@@idk-mz3ys I liked Shane until I found out he went on a podcast with Blossom to talk about how they "won" the debate 😭 I thought this was a channel to reach a middle ground, not arguing.
@hopx9071
@hopx9071 15 күн бұрын
The conversation was so heated and the random "I'm Suppost to refrigerate it?" was funny to me
@brandonpassannante2426
@brandonpassannante2426 22 күн бұрын
"Let's not underestimate the power of these kids today", sounds like it comes from the same vine as, "You're so mature for your age".
@calvin624
@calvin624 7 ай бұрын
Using your race as an excuse to be a belligerent narcissist is a new low. She should transition into being a better person.
@sbdreamin
@sbdreamin 7 ай бұрын
best comment award!
@ktclips7153
@ktclips7153 7 ай бұрын
I 100% AGREEE!
@rcvu2509
@rcvu2509 7 ай бұрын
it's hardly new lol
@danim3714
@danim3714 7 ай бұрын
👌 blossoming like a cactus
@kuromichan2164
@kuromichan2164 7 ай бұрын
im dying omgg
@jinnieneutron7572
@jinnieneutron7572 7 ай бұрын
i’m not even conservative but this was CRAZY. The liberals were so aggressive 💀
@sangi0684
@sangi0684 7 ай бұрын
same
@kkthomas6864
@kkthomas6864 7 ай бұрын
They usually are aggressive! Look at all the crazies protesting in NYC against Israel. The LGBT community is siding with Palestine and they must have forgot Muslims are anti-gay BIGTIME and Israel is welcoming/accepting!
@coltonc8894
@coltonc8894 7 ай бұрын
Seriously.. all feral for no reason lmao.. like we’re adults , let’s act like it and have actual debates that aren’t toxic
@malivolusj3110
@malivolusj3110 7 ай бұрын
Time to switch over? We have cookies.
@Anne_Onymous
@Anne_Onymous 7 ай бұрын
What's new?
@reed3312
@reed3312 28 күн бұрын
Alexander never answered the question "what is your dysphoria?"
@britneymcdonald5513
@britneymcdonald5513 23 күн бұрын
agreed, he totally dodged the question
@DominikZagar
@DominikZagar 9 күн бұрын
Because he doesn’t know what does that actually mean 😂
@janellywelly777
@janellywelly777 2 ай бұрын
You see how one side is more so presenting their arguments with emotion rather than logic and reasoning.
@Planck944
@Planck944 8 ай бұрын
Jubilee allowing bullying on set is absolutely unacceptable
@lahaza6515
@lahaza6515 8 ай бұрын
They call it debate, but you can best believe their agenda comes first.
@kellybuzby4752
@kellybuzby4752 8 ай бұрын
Yup that non binary and blossom were unhinged
@SGN30
@SGN30 8 ай бұрын
​@@kellybuzby4752"that non binary"
@user-bz7qg5xw6h
@user-bz7qg5xw6h 8 ай бұрын
@@SGN30 Or, that ''waste of inclusionary space'' fit better for you? Or would you prefer dismantler of trans rights?
@autumnasbridge8691
@autumnasbridge8691 8 ай бұрын
Ngl I want Blaire to bully me
@hearts16
@hearts16 8 ай бұрын
Blaire was on point when she pointed out that if trans ppl are 1% of the population and want to be heard and not disregarded, why do they totally disregard the 1% of detransitioners? Valid point!
@gimygaming8655
@gimygaming8655 8 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@punkrockresume
@punkrockresume 8 ай бұрын
My favorite argument of the whole debate. Always so quick to invalidate detransitioners experience while screaming that everyone is invalidating theirs. It's the hypocrisy for me
@chinita1pr
@chinita1pr 7 ай бұрын
I had never thought about that until she said it. Very insightful.
@sakasusuk
@sakasusuk 7 ай бұрын
And then they used the excuse of ‘Well if happens’. Like BRO it happened in ur community and you just glossed it over as its some kind of ‘mistake’. I dont mind them being protective of the community but like why is it that they dont give the same energy with thr detransitioners
@ressesdave2250
@ressesdave2250 7 ай бұрын
Cause trans people are not harming the 99% of cis people. And trans people do feel for detransitioners but they are not gonna allow something to harm the 99% of trans people to save 1% of detransitioners. There are ways to help detransitioners without harming trans people. Alot of these detransitioners did not follow the correct wpath guidelines and went to bad doctors. But if a doctor commits malpractice you go after the doctor u don't go after the surgery that helps people.
@Cassie_KJ
@Cassie_KJ Ай бұрын
Yall edited parts out. We all know you did.
@carlostorres6114
@carlostorres6114 Ай бұрын
They didn’t. I was there. This was most of it but silence.
@Cassie_KJ
@Cassie_KJ Ай бұрын
​@@carlostorres6114 You expect me to believe a guy with 4 subs, who plays roblox, and who's name never got mentioned in this video was actually there? Stop being an attention seeker
@carlostorres6114
@carlostorres6114 Ай бұрын
@@Cassie_KJ lol this is a burn account. You’re letting the characteristics of a KZfaq account formulate your opinion. Idc if you believe or not only silence was filtered out.
@Cassie_KJ
@Cassie_KJ Ай бұрын
@@carlostorres6114 I watched your playlists, read your bio, you joined 9 years ago. I can tell you are still a minor, sweetheart. You do not scare me and you do not convince me of anything. They cut parts of Blair out. You have no evidence you were there. So ok lets play your game, where were you? Which one is you?
@eric9061
@eric9061 25 күн бұрын
Even with the heavy editing, the liberals looked like clowns ☠️
@hayatij4965
@hayatij4965 Ай бұрын
I'm glad Sara was there. She explained things very calmly and, above all, objectively. She was a real asset. While the non-binary person was actually really rude, I think. I mean, you don't have to like each other, but calling people disgusting is just not ok
@bokangphelane
@bokangphelane 7 ай бұрын
As a black person i really cringe when black people use race to excuse their bad behaviour and double standards. "Don't interrupt a black trans woman" but she's been interrupting everyone
@An3moLexi
@An3moLexi 7 ай бұрын
factsss me too
@yonce2347
@yonce2347 7 ай бұрын
aS a BlAck peRsoN, I cringe when a "black" person need to specify their race to say something about black people.
@shayla106
@shayla106 7 ай бұрын
@@yonce2347 I don’t, because a lot of these lunatics will jump on you if you’re not black speaking about a black issue.
@hinachan70
@hinachan70 7 ай бұрын
​@@yonce2347People will then question if you're black, as in "allowed" to speak about the issue, if you don't state your race on certain topics. Why? Because first of all I'm behind a keyboard so you can't see my skin color. Second, we shouldn't even be asking race but here we are. Read the room, friend. Look at how people behave before you complain about precautions that have to be taken to avoid a heated argument.
@yonce2347
@yonce2347 7 ай бұрын
@@hinachan70 If you don’t feel like it’s to okay to say something if you were white, why do you think it’s okay to say it if you’re black? Is that not Blossom’s issue? It ends up making you sound even more pathetic, especially to black people.
@iggyigz4229
@iggyigz4229 8 ай бұрын
Imagine being so privileged that you can actually say "don't interrupt a black trans person" and expect that everyone will stop interrupting you
@dharmainitiative9152
@dharmainitiative9152 8 ай бұрын
Because she is the most oppressed, didn’t you get the memo? 😆
@reheatthepasta9545
@reheatthepasta9545 8 ай бұрын
I feel as though that usually flies in their own echo chamber but the common sense portion of the world doesn’t exist there so when we see it the cringe and “wtf” thoughts form.
@kaygee2121
@kaygee2121 8 ай бұрын
Word. Literal entitlement.
@AJManol
@AJManol 8 ай бұрын
But people DO cowtow to her. Everyone is afraid of being cancelled or thought of as a "bigot". (Pot calling the kettle black, much?)
@grace.charlie
@grace.charlie 8 ай бұрын
Blossom and the rest of the libs are ruining it for themselves and aren’t even realizing it
@chloetavares8652
@chloetavares8652 Ай бұрын
I could not agree more with the trans conservative side of this debate. As a woman, Blaire made me feel very seen and heard and it’s amazing how she’s standing up for women having a human lens and not just a trans lens.
@agenteespecialcabogema9090
@agenteespecialcabogema9090 Ай бұрын
Blossom's whole personality is: I suffer cause I am a black Trans woman, when she is actually a Privileged trans woman, this video shows that the production was on a side the whole time and not on the truth side
@Rendoku25
@Rendoku25 8 ай бұрын
Jubilee needs to hire some actual neutral mediators for these debates. They way they go now, especially this one, is NOT a debate. It’s bullying and incredible rude.
@BringBackStoning
@BringBackStoning 8 ай бұрын
I agree. Shouting and insult matches dont get us no where. They should definitely start doing this
@Biancanon
@Biancanon 8 ай бұрын
they need to hire someone else to edit these....
@Sabrinatw
@Sabrinatw 8 ай бұрын
Lol they also need to hire real editors. They don’t cut things out from the truth. They also need to hire real therapist to get some of these people help that they desperately need. Also security to take care of the cowards that threatened to cause physical harm to the other guest.
@carla.c
@carla.c 8 ай бұрын
I would like for people to actually finish their points before another person starts talking. So annoying.
@Sabrinatw
@Sabrinatw 8 ай бұрын
@@carla.c exactly, but unfortunately woke people don’t have respect or common sense. They always have to argue if someone disagrees and have to physically or mentally harm someone.
@IslandVibez_Virgo
@IslandVibez_Virgo 7 ай бұрын
As a black person I’m so tired of ppl bringing race into an argument that has nothing to do with race as a deflection tactic 🙄
@demondbrooks568
@demondbrooks568 7 ай бұрын
Trying to be a victim and bully in the same breath....disingenuous....she knows she can get away with that shyt around white people....did you see her CNN clip?
@YAHWEH_TSIDKENU
@YAHWEH_TSIDKENU 7 ай бұрын
So true. We gotta take accountability
@xatusound3637
@xatusound3637 7 ай бұрын
"as a black person" you hate when people bring up race? but you just did the same thing? Why is it ok when you use race to qualify and distance yourself, but she can't use it to empower? make it make sense please.
@aplaowattanakul7760
@aplaowattanakul7760 7 ай бұрын
Some black people said asking about gender is racist.
@gene5021
@gene5021 7 ай бұрын
​@@aplaowattanakul7760no that was a white person. 😂😂. They said if they got asked their gender it would be racist
@courtneysdani
@courtneysdani 2 ай бұрын
I’m a lesbian and I find it a little baffling that some of them were talking about how they don’t feel safe which is why they want to use the female bathroom, but they don’t give a crap about the women and children who don’t feel safe with trans women in the bathroom. They’re just thinking about themselves and want everyone else to adapt. I’m a petite woman and can’t fend off men how some of these trans women would be able to, let alone poor children.
@kahp1072
@kahp1072 Ай бұрын
Exactly, it boils down to their own feelings. They don't give a crap about anyone.
@Baasudei
@Baasudei Ай бұрын
So, since I absolutely cannot fend most men, do I get a pass? How does this logic work?
@courtneysdani
@courtneysdani Ай бұрын
@@Baasudei That becomes your problem if you decide to transition. It should not now become everyone’s problems. And kids especially cannot defend themselves. It’s selfish!!!
@Baasudei
@Baasudei Ай бұрын
@@courtneysdani Girl what are you on. I would think that the best case scenario is that no one is in danger, correct? So why is it expected that I do so? Clearly OP did not agree as she brought up the potential to fight back. No idea what kids have to do with this. I'm a danger to kids because I, like any human, happen to have to pee? That doesn't sound very logical.
@user-fz9ki7wt1o
@user-fz9ki7wt1o Ай бұрын
What you do in the sack is your problem and should be in your private bedroom not in our face day after day and that goes for all of lgbtqa and other
@amandamartinez4508
@amandamartinez4508 2 ай бұрын
I have allot of respect for conservative trans people for going against the narrative.
@BizQAC
@BizQAC 21 күн бұрын
Yes, these are trans women I would be cool being around, the liberal ones I’d be afraid of at least the ones trying to be women. They’re still very masculine and it’s a bit too much for me.
@paradisemeadow8999
@paradisemeadow8999 8 күн бұрын
I agree
@thetruthdatedr.4766
@thetruthdatedr.4766 38 минут бұрын
Agree
@jerryligairi1078
@jerryligairi1078 4 ай бұрын
Trying to argue over the veteran trans woman about trans people in the military is HILARIOUS
@zkart8038
@zkart8038 4 ай бұрын
That too by someone who also never transitioned.
@streamingservices2469
@streamingservices2469 4 ай бұрын
That’s what I’m saying. 😂😂😂Props to Sasha also for being willing to listen to the conservatives great points, unlike his shitty team of idiots
@mrunknown7710
@mrunknown7710 3 ай бұрын
😂😂
@BizQAC
@BizQAC 21 күн бұрын
Like the trans women that argue with women about being a woman. The entire identity for some is based on delusion.
@NineEyes97
@NineEyes97 7 ай бұрын
Crazy how Blossom wants trans people to be safe but thinks it’s ok to openly threaten Blair with violence, “the bodyguards are outside, keep it real cute”, in a debate.
@heidinguyenphuoc7911
@heidinguyenphuoc7911 7 ай бұрын
its also funny bc blossom said that she didnt threaten blaire (on her ig) and im like.....more than a million ppl heard u said that u had bodyguards waiting outside for her...like....is she fr
@johnsmith-dx2ql
@johnsmith-dx2ql 7 ай бұрын
very lady like behavior
@cultytalk
@cultytalk 7 ай бұрын
A FULL RIDE thru Med School - Vocabulary, Mentality & Attitude of a 5th grade BULLY 👎👎👎 SAD & disturbing to watch!! PLEASE tell me she is not an actual physician that works with PEOPLE! 🙏
@Viewable11
@Viewable11 7 ай бұрын
This happened at 29:30
@lependu403
@lependu403 7 ай бұрын
​@@heidinguyenphuoc7911 I think she was talking about Blaire's friend she brought being her bodyguard, but I think he just came to be supportive. He wasnt being paid to protect her or anything. Regardless, Blossom was implying violence when she mentioned the body guard - like he was the only reason she wasn't going to get violent.
@jadeduran-smith3421
@jadeduran-smith3421 Ай бұрын
To the woman in the light orange, you pass honey 🥰
@ItsBrynnDiamonds
@ItsBrynnDiamonds 13 күн бұрын
She passes the vibe check she reminds me of one of my aunts 😊
@nicolemarie8746
@nicolemarie8746 8 ай бұрын
Can we please ban Blossom from these debates? Brings no value and all she does is play victim.
@deusdex1186
@deusdex1186 8 ай бұрын
As well as screeching over everyone else and dominating the conversation.
@lukalyx
@lukalyx 8 ай бұрын
Can we ban CIS people like you from commenting??? please?? how does this really affect you. Let TRANS people speak.
@Jinxypoo100
@Jinxypoo100 8 ай бұрын
She just starts drama
@janetuss6496
@janetuss6496 8 ай бұрын
She seems very mentally unstable and should be in a mental hospital instead of given a platform to spout nonsense
@gldnkltz101
@gldnkltz101 8 ай бұрын
Blaire and Blossom both detracted from the civility.
@ezk3002
@ezk3002 5 ай бұрын
Blossom out here talking about how transwomen should be safe and look out for each other but then threatening a transwoman 💀
@jjtrejo4125
@jjtrejo4125 4 ай бұрын
yup. it's called ✨entitled✨
@PrettyBaby293
@PrettyBaby293 3 ай бұрын
@@jjtrejo4125it’s called ✨innate behavior✨ blossom is just doing what biological men are programmed to do..be territorial and aggressive lmao
@sad_vegan507
@sad_vegan507 3 ай бұрын
Blossom is the most privileged out of everyone
@CatBahptista
@CatBahptista 3 ай бұрын
With that big ole linebacker 6 foot 6 body or however tall “she” is 💀 gtfoh
@vw4822
@vw4822 3 ай бұрын
And doesn't give a sh*t about sis women. I'm not sure any woman would be comfortable around Blossom who is extremely aggressive.
@vaioboy1410
@vaioboy1410 2 ай бұрын
The dude in yellow hate CLEARLY has a chip of Blaire on his shoulder 🤣
@internetwarcriminal4004
@internetwarcriminal4004 Ай бұрын
The fact that this wasn’t even in order tells a lot of Jubilee. They should present the whole talk in real time and order.
@udkmeeee
@udkmeeee 8 ай бұрын
blossom using her trans-ness and skin color to make her voice heard over others and use it as an excuse to interrupt others while ridiculing others for interrupting her is absolutely disgusting
@oooon222
@oooon222 8 ай бұрын
The worst part is that it must have worked for her in the past
@dianarug4662
@dianarug4662 7 ай бұрын
@@oooon222 yep. how disappointing.
@wednesdayaddams7066
@wednesdayaddams7066 7 ай бұрын
It's people like blossom that are the reason we will never see change or be taken seriously.
@Phoney.Baloney
@Phoney.Baloney 7 ай бұрын
He couldn’t be anymore liberal
@deusdex1186
@deusdex1186 7 ай бұрын
@@oooon222 The dude is obviously used to terrorising weak progressives into white guilt paralysis.
@alexis_daydream333
@alexis_daydream333 8 ай бұрын
I burst into laughter when she pulled the "trans black woman" card. That's hysterical. Literally no one brought up race at all. It's so extra.
@StanChunghaOrGoHome
@StanChunghaOrGoHome 8 ай бұрын
Same I laughed too
@Repentdaily1990
@Repentdaily1990 8 ай бұрын
It was gross!
@lyndza1989
@lyndza1989 8 ай бұрын
"give me extra better treatment..because!"
@deusdex1186
@deusdex1186 8 ай бұрын
Every single time.
@onangelwings462
@onangelwings462 8 ай бұрын
Oh yeah they were going to pull every damn card.
@ashleyanderson6741
@ashleyanderson6741 Ай бұрын
"Wait I'm supposed refrigerate it?" -I love him
@maygullordali9157
@maygullordali9157 Ай бұрын
How can jubilee allow blossom to threaten blaire???
@Fortheloveoforthodoxing
@Fortheloveoforthodoxing 8 ай бұрын
It’s really cringe and unprofessional of Jubilee to not stop Blossom multiple times from interrupting literally EVERYONE on this panel. And yet around the 40min mark they tell Blaire to not interject comments during Blossom talking. Weird.
@goobieeleaf
@goobieeleaf 8 ай бұрын
i saw it coming from both sides, i think they only really stopped it because it was escalating, which was way after the conversation went unprofessional
@unregisteredhypercam2142
@unregisteredhypercam2142 8 ай бұрын
My question is why they invited Blossom back when she was exactly like this last time she was in a Jubilee video.
@Penislaser
@Penislaser 8 ай бұрын
because drama gives views, simple
@koraliee
@koraliee 8 ай бұрын
​@@unregisteredhypercam2142For rage farming. Blossom brings the drama, and drama gets engagement. Admittedly I still fell for it.
@hidansektas
@hidansektas 8 ай бұрын
they need a whole another moderator. this was such a fail. blossom ruined it by her behaviour regardless of me agreeing or not agreeing with her. ridiculous
@piecebypiece2028
@piecebypiece2028 7 ай бұрын
Its crazy that jubilee tried so hard to make Blair look unhinged and crazy with their editing, and she still comes across as a buddhist monk when compared to Blossom.
@AzDoll714
@AzDoll714 7 ай бұрын
The producers are pathetic
@moldbrain660
@moldbrain660 7 ай бұрын
A Buddhist monk broooooo☠️☠️
@theriseofyousafzai8779
@theriseofyousafzai8779 7 ай бұрын
😂
@WattPheasant
@WattPheasant 7 ай бұрын
Blossom and Blaire were both being insufferable.
@PINKFONG2011
@PINKFONG2011 7 ай бұрын
@@WattPheasantBlaire was constantly attacked from the beginning. This video isn’t chronologically edited, the first question they actually had was about trans military. When they sat down, blossom and the others immediately attacked Blaire about not being grassroots & saying she’s done nothing for the community. Then threatened her, that’s how this panel STARTED.
@Nnc2138
@Nnc2138 Ай бұрын
Alexander really likes to point out that he doesn’t care about kids
@genellecampbell3968
@genellecampbell3968 2 ай бұрын
This was a horribly done “debate”.
@ToniOne03
@ToniOne03 8 ай бұрын
Why are they asking Blair if she ever took care of a homeless transgender person before? This is ridiculous.
@swooningtree
@swooningtree 8 ай бұрын
That part was like a comedy sketch. So un-self aware
@xthruxglassx
@xthruxglassx 8 ай бұрын
Innit! It's like asking a pediatrician have they ever gone and taught in a school because otherwise they aren't helping children. It's the anger at her social media presence that they go for the attack because she is not 100% victimising herself to fit the narrative of "prioritise the trans community rights, or else its bigotry"
@GenVee
@GenVee 8 ай бұрын
It's ridiculous...there are people that help homeless people in general...trans aren't special.
@justdont2378
@justdont2378 8 ай бұрын
They were waiting for that the moment they heard she was gonna be in the debate.
@Matvakia
@Matvakia 8 ай бұрын
being an influencer and talking about trans stuff is not social work, social work is social work
@ClaraPNAraujo
@ClaraPNAraujo 8 ай бұрын
I'm a liberal and honestly disappointed to see the treatment Blaire received from Blossom. There's absolutely no excuse to yell at someone during a debate. There's quite alot of Blaire's thoughts that I disagree with but she actually makes plenty of valid points and deserves respect as much as anyone else in the room
@spicycorndogs4619
@spicycorndogs4619 8 ай бұрын
I think she was also very disrespectful as well but Blossom definitely was out of pocket too
@thatvampigoddess926
@thatvampigoddess926 8 ай бұрын
I have seen a lot of debates on this channel and never have I seen them allow anyone to call someone disgusting up until this point.
@bellezaxglam9727
@bellezaxglam9727 8 ай бұрын
@@spicycorndogs4619agree
@ClaraPNAraujo
@ClaraPNAraujo 8 ай бұрын
@@spicycorndogs4619 I agree, not a fan of the eye rolling and faces she came up with at some points. But Blossom took it to a whole other level.
@ClaraPNAraujo
@ClaraPNAraujo 8 ай бұрын
@@thatvampigoddess926 that was straight up bullying
@DaphneGauthier
@DaphneGauthier 28 күн бұрын
If young women in their 20s/30s cannot have their Uterus remove because they can change their minds on having kids, it should not be allowed either to have sugery when minor. The same reasons apply. Maybe its a stretch but its still a choice and it still a surgery and still our bodies...
@lialia2268
@lialia2268 27 күн бұрын
That was actually a great point. My mom wanted to get her tubes tied after she had my brother around 20, the doctor asked her to take a little time and think about it. She was so great full for that because if he would’ve did it, she never would’ve had her daughter (me). She’s very grateful for that analysis
@DaphneGauthier
@DaphneGauthier 27 күн бұрын
@@lialia2268 exactly! I dont think it should be the same age! But at least to be major to choose that’s all. Doesnt change the fact that some could regret it after but it surely helps on some points 🤷‍♀️
@lialia2268
@lialia2268 26 күн бұрын
@@DaphneGauthier I most definitely agree. No child should be able to make such a dire decision
@NatashaRomanoffRoses
@NatashaRomanoffRoses 4 күн бұрын
Even though I agree minors shouldn't have surgery, women should not be completely denied of having a hysterectomy. Yes, people change their minds but some people don't and would rather have their uterus removed and that's a choice that should be given to them. I'm just going to use myself as a personal example. For me personally, I would consider one due to the fact I can't have fully biological children anyway (I'm a lesbian) and I have medical problems my children could inherit. If I have children, they will probably be adopted or from my partner's egg. I won't consider it though because I know any medical professional I ask will say no. There are lots of other woman out there like me too. I don't think this is fair.
@Lucy_chan
@Lucy_chan Ай бұрын
“Me as non-binary person”… Wait a sec, I thought it was trans debate 😅
@maranocna2530
@maranocna2530 Ай бұрын
The term trans means that someone is not identifying with the gender they were assigned at birth, so it does include binary trans people (mtf and ftm) AND non-binary people (people who don't feel like men or women, so they do not identify with the gender they were assigned at birth)
@teehee440
@teehee440 6 сағат бұрын
@@maranocna2530no it means someone who TRANSITIONED from one gender to the other. Stop changing definitions transsexual or transgender literally has the word trans in it 💀
@lida4747
@lida4747 8 ай бұрын
The way he respectfully said “Don’t come for my privilege, I was raised by drug addicts, I have HIV.” 👏🏻
@deliadiaz3105
@deliadiaz3105 8 ай бұрын
But we have to remember “she’s a black trans woman” so no one has it worse than her.🙄
@zemlya378
@zemlya378 8 ай бұрын
Agreed. I know many black people who have far provides that I could possibly imagine
@user-js6yq4hr1n
@user-js6yq4hr1n 8 ай бұрын
I literally teared up. Blossom assuming every white person is privileged IS RACISM.
@scofieldsc3017
@scofieldsc3017 8 ай бұрын
Timestamp?
@maackia_5581
@maackia_5581 8 ай бұрын
Timestamp pls
@NormanFRockwellontop
@NormanFRockwellontop 6 ай бұрын
I have so much respect for Jessica. Her saying "I don’t pass" hurt me for her. She’s so compassionate and so self aware and I wish her the best.
@dianaselnekovicova948
@dianaselnekovicova948 6 ай бұрын
To be honest all of them pass visually except from that non binary person
@alby7223
@alby7223 6 ай бұрын
nonbinary people don't have to 'pass' in any binary direction, einstein. They are literally not on either side of the binary @@dianaselnekovicova948
@sanityshorror
@sanityshorror 6 ай бұрын
Jessica absolutely does pass, I wouldn't have guessed she's trans unless I'd already known. Some afab/xx people are born with very masculine features, look at Shane for example.
@broforcefreedom4936
@broforcefreedom4936 6 ай бұрын
@@dianaselnekovicova948not blossom with how aggressive they were
@soniaess28
@soniaess28 6 ай бұрын
​@@sanityshorrordon't be ridiculous. None of the men pass.
@brentdelrey2577
@brentdelrey2577 Ай бұрын
Blossom and Alexander were so unbearable
@jasper46985
@jasper46985 Ай бұрын
Is Alexander the Dude in the Clown IT style??
@supernaturalevilbabes
@supernaturalevilbabes 14 сағат бұрын
@@jasper46985unfortunately
@yarioi
@yarioi Ай бұрын
I also don’t really like Blaire, but she absolutely devoured these arguments and I can see her pov. She handled talking with blossom beautifully and I love how respectful she was. Again, blossom is a bully, and entitled. I have family in the military and I can for damn sure say that being black or a poc does not have nothing to do with the military. The question was about trans people being on the military not color or racism.
@misswednesday299
@misswednesday299 8 ай бұрын
Shame on Jubilee for Copyright Striking Blaire's reaction video to her experience on Jubilee. I'm not even conservative, and y'all were totally bias. Your audience deserves a redo!
@lexyg1693
@lexyg1693 8 ай бұрын
Because she doesn't fit their narrative and of course they have to be petty 🙄
@kstephane1444
@kstephane1444 8 ай бұрын
You are not liberal either so
@1farahnaz
@1farahnaz 8 ай бұрын
Wtffff jubilee SHAME ON YOU
@cynister7355
@cynister7355 7 ай бұрын
That's messed up. That makes me more invested to watch it.
@ramittyagi667
@ramittyagi667 7 ай бұрын
Sooo true this is really sad to see these double standards
@StanChunghaOrGoHome
@StanChunghaOrGoHome 8 ай бұрын
Blossom uses the “I’m a black trans person” as a way to say “I’m the biggest victim out of all of you therefore my point is the only valid one”. Which is an obnoxious mentality to have.
@StAlchemyst
@StAlchemyst 8 ай бұрын
Blossom has been to the White House, and given a free ride through med school. If anyone has had any REAL privilege it's her.
@SpectreBagels
@SpectreBagels 8 ай бұрын
Specifically a racist mindset to have
@xander_k_
@xander_k_ 8 ай бұрын
@@mynameisraybeing mixed only really affects you if you physically look like your non white race.
@IdkFoxii
@IdkFoxii 8 ай бұрын
@@mynameisraywhat is she mixed with
@Sadlittlecloud
@Sadlittlecloud 8 ай бұрын
@@mynameisrayshe definitely looks Latina IMO but yes race shouldn’t matter and it has 0 place in this debate
@CLSGL
@CLSGL Ай бұрын
Blair and the other conservative trans folks here are proof that simply having someone “on your side” is enough to wildly sway your views. “Trans” was exclusively a liberal movement and I, being a conservative, was vehemently opposed to the entire topic. But having Blaire in the conservative isle really opened me up to the conversation. She’s done more to sway my views on the trans community than anybody else on earth.
@BizQAC
@BizQAC 21 күн бұрын
Agree. She has a great outlook and accountability standards. Even the bathroom debate like that makes the most sense to me.
@katiedrew9322
@katiedrew9322 15 күн бұрын
Always remember that they're going to find the most obnoxious and extreme person for sound clips and examples, its more attention grabbing. Most Trans women are like Blair, while I don't agree with her on everything she said. Me being open and honest with conservative people I work with when I came out had them supporting me fully. Most people aren't looking to grab attention, they're trying to survive. Also, most of us can't get all the plastic surgery she clearly had (not a dis) making her so passable. I pass, with no surgery, and I was as shocked as anyone. Most people do not.
@rizla2000
@rizla2000 Ай бұрын
“You’re looking through the lens of trans being the priority, I’m looking through the lens of women being the priority” 👏 👏 👏
@VIZIONARYxx
@VIZIONARYxx 7 ай бұрын
As A Biological Black woman I will say that Blossom does not represent us in ANY regard. Not everything is about race. Truly an embarrasment.
@yaspgirl9453
@yaspgirl9453 7 ай бұрын
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@poptasticanimation55
@poptasticanimation55 7 ай бұрын
Thankyou, she didn't need to interject that
@jasmineduran6731
@jasmineduran6731 7 ай бұрын
I second this as another biological black woman. We as black women get a bad reputation enough, and she just made it worse.
@jesuslovesyoudontforgetit5343
@jesuslovesyoudontforgetit5343 7 ай бұрын
I as well!
@NopeNotToday26
@NopeNotToday26 7 ай бұрын
@@jasmineduran6731Right.
@chu9573
@chu9573 5 ай бұрын
For someone who hates being interrupted, Blossom sure does love to talk over people. Loudly at that.
@unionunicorn6776
@unionunicorn6776 4 ай бұрын
Hypocritical
@MrSharks-ox4jr
@MrSharks-ox4jr 4 ай бұрын
And she is so real for that
@gabbysuhh
@gabbysuhh 4 ай бұрын
⁠@@MrSharks-ox4jrno she isn’t 😭
@fr2ia94
@fr2ia94 4 ай бұрын
@@MrSharks-ox4jr no…
@vika.a6424
@vika.a6424 4 ай бұрын
​@@MrSharks-ox4jrEWW NO WAY
@ieshabunny
@ieshabunny Ай бұрын
the real entertainment was just letting them argue tbh
@Andrea-po3rm
@Andrea-po3rm 7 ай бұрын
I have worked in "grassroots" and have never and probably will never influence the number of people Blaire has. I do not agree with all her views, but i think it's inappropriate to negate the amount of work she has put into her craft and ignore the number of people she has reached. Regardless if you have helped a few people, a dozen, or a million. Do not let anyone devalue your worth.
@pchuru6734
@pchuru6734 7 ай бұрын
Blair is helping aLot people…. If she doesn’t do it in the way you want doesn’t count? Ridiculous. Not everyone has to be social worker, b Volunteer in order to make impact. The little respect I have towards trans community is for ppl like Blair and Sarah mature, respectful and articulate enough to don’t play victim card.
@GirlBehindACamera
@GirlBehindACamera 7 ай бұрын
Blaire is the only sane person on this panel... the liberals ones are so out of touch with reality with their victim mindsets
@pommiebears
@pommiebears 7 ай бұрын
Blaire has helped me, as a biological woman, understand that there are trans people who aren’t just “men in a dress”! She has helped others too. Blossom……frightens the life out of me. I can find no common ground with someone like Blossom. Aggressive, and oppressive. Not someone I want to embrace.
@pommiebears
@pommiebears 7 ай бұрын
@@pchuru6734 I agree.
@DeserieDrew
@DeserieDrew 7 ай бұрын
Exactly! It's like who's standards are we going by here. Blaires given a platform for detransitioners before anyone else. 😢
@abbieahrens9565
@abbieahrens9565 7 ай бұрын
Everyone is talking about Blair but SARA is the real star. She really educated everyone without getting upset and fired up. She justified everything with real reasons and experiences
@clarabruselas8444
@clarabruselas8444 7 ай бұрын
she didn´t get fired up because people weren´t out to get her the way they did with Blair. i assure you them knowing Blair was going to be there was their gold opportunity to shine by dragging her. there´s a huge portion of the trans community that hate her just because of not being delusional. That being said, i agree that Sara was fantastic and if people weren´t so focused on blasting Blair, we could have listened to Sara and everyone else more
@jeronimofrost6990
@jeronimofrost6990 7 ай бұрын
Sara made great points but they didn't try to cut Sara's throat like they did to Blaire. The director told Blaire she had to speak last and blossom screamed at and threatened her, all of which was edited out according to blaires reaction to this video
@veerbee
@veerbee 7 ай бұрын
I think the opposing side didn't pay much attention to Sara, although she was obviously very well read and very smart, she knew what she was talking about and made excellent points. They were focused on Blair bc they saw her as a threat and not Sara
@moniquenickybasson6903
@moniquenickybasson6903 7 ай бұрын
sara wasn't being threatened like blaire was off camera and cut parts
@lucaal77
@lucaal77 7 ай бұрын
I definitely agree with this. The non binary person is just a joke
@lodiedodiee
@lodiedodiee Ай бұрын
I like the one in all black...why do women and girls have to be uncomfortable to make you comfortable. SAFETY is a priority...if you can't use the womens bathroom, is that a safety issue?
@Alejojojo6
@Alejojojo6 Ай бұрын
She's Blair White.
@sk8ing_is_life
@sk8ing_is_life Ай бұрын
Race had nothing to do with it, it's BLOSSOM THAT'S THE PROBLEM 😂
@Jasijay_
@Jasijay_ 7 ай бұрын
@jubilee Please do not have Blossom back on here…as a Black Woman myself, her being allowed to verbally attack other women and men because she disagrees with them is very disgusting. I thought this platform was inclusive I used to think highly of it but now…I don’t understand how you all can allow someone unhinged like that to be apart of this important dialogue showcase.
@dekxu6673
@dekxu6673 7 ай бұрын
she somehow turns every conversation into a full blown argument and talks over people. it’s annoying. its called middle ground, you’re gonna to hear opinions you don’t agree with, that’s the point.
@aorekagaming412
@aorekagaming412 7 ай бұрын
Then turns everything into a race war if losing the argument. Professional Victim
@CoquiDeBoriken
@CoquiDeBoriken 7 ай бұрын
Because it helps expose assholes as well.
@ginihall1234
@ginihall1234 7 ай бұрын
This
@mikenray21
@mikenray21 7 ай бұрын
She never let's anyone else talk.
@lorena5mash
@lorena5mash 7 ай бұрын
When they ran out of logic, they started to use personal attacks. That's a big sign of weakness in a debate and a display of your intelligence.
@mylene_b
@mylene_b 7 ай бұрын
I noticed that too.
@yikes.3239
@yikes.3239 7 ай бұрын
what is a sign of intelligence is not having to quantify intelligence by levels of emotional arousal. someone can be intelligent and have less emotional control. two things can exist at once!
@lorena5mash
@lorena5mash 7 ай бұрын
@@yikes.3239 Sure. It doesn't say everything. But if you resort to calling someone disgusting in a debate because you can't win with your arguments, I don't think that's solely to do with losing your temper.
@keonhh10
@keonhh10 7 ай бұрын
not exactly understanding who this is directed towards, but blair made personal attacks towards people throughout the debate.. she’s not exactly known for her logical reasoning and debate skills either
@caitlinhammons2437
@caitlinhammons2437 7 ай бұрын
@@keonhh10 they edited the timeline to make it look as though Blair started the personal attacks. Apparently, the military prompt was the first question asked, and they immediately jumped on Blair because she's a high profile person they obviously don't like.
@angelharris1327
@angelharris1327 Ай бұрын
You dont just get to decide "Oh this place is more safe for me if I identify as a male" and then the next day "oh this place is more safe for me as a female" or they, them, wtf ever. YOU'RE ONE OR THE OTHER!!!
@DominikZagar
@DominikZagar 9 күн бұрын
Just finding excuses because Blossom doesn’t have any valid argument literally 😂
@surveysays731
@surveysays731 Ай бұрын
i was SO into watching Jubilee’s videos until this debate….what they allowed to happen in this debate is downright disgusting
@blandbeauty
@blandbeauty 7 ай бұрын
There needs to be a black trans conservatives vs black trans liberals. Bring Blossom back, and see how far she gets without being able rest her points on “being a black trans woman”
@len-1768
@len-1768 7 ай бұрын
Even better, bring Flame Monroe and Kat Blaque.
@LoveMiaStuff
@LoveMiaStuff 7 ай бұрын
@@len-1768second on Kat, she’d excel here
@ave8863
@ave8863 7 ай бұрын
Yes because she goes off when she knows people aren’t combative.
@user-ls1ny3pe8y
@user-ls1ny3pe8y 7 ай бұрын
Yes!!!! I agree with you!!!!! Blossom is so use to using her race as a stepping stone to get sympathy and support. Pathetic.
@keirahleesha486
@keirahleesha486 7 ай бұрын
@@len-1768yesss lol, they can read her to filth & they’ll stop the bullcrap from her before it even starts😂 they aren’t disillusioned with what they really are & what life is.
@daniellelsogb
@daniellelsogb 8 ай бұрын
The fact that the "non binary" person on the panel questioned more than once "whats the obsession with other people's kids" is a point blank representation of how egocentric and apathetic he is towards other people he cant relate to. Children MUST BE PROTECTED. If I see a child being abused in ANY capacity I WILL speak up. I will never turn a blind eye to children suffering abuse or manipulation.
@algs4882
@algs4882 8 ай бұрын
I respect and somewhat agree with your opinion, it is very important to make sure children have the support they need. However, you can state your opinions without disrespecting Alexander as a nonbinary person. THEY deserve respect just as you do and everyone else even if you dont agree with them... please use the correct pronouns... kind regards
@dudeorduuude5211
@dudeorduuude5211 8 ай бұрын
​@@algs4882be quiet and stop being an AH.
@niaobviously
@niaobviously 8 ай бұрын
Who’s “he”?
@blarty
@blarty 8 ай бұрын
they*
@chrisspike3282
@chrisspike3282 8 ай бұрын
@@blarty HE. I'll use it in a sentence so you can understand: "HE wears clown make up and has a d*ck, so HE is male". Got it babes?
@tinman67tn
@tinman67tn Ай бұрын
You're comparing a minor making a life changing decision, like removing their breatsts to dropping out of school??? Newsflash...........you can go back to school whenever you want.
@stevecortes505
@stevecortes505 Ай бұрын
i’m a trans and i support the conservative ones
@patryapg
@patryapg 8 ай бұрын
How can you allow these people to be so disrespectful?
@zipper2741
@zipper2741 8 ай бұрын
Who
@TheNinjapancake14
@TheNinjapancake14 8 ай бұрын
Who else?
@emilylee5620
@emilylee5620 8 ай бұрын
@@zipper2741bloosom? She was the most disrespectful one out of all
@tiramisuvodka8353
@tiramisuvodka8353 8 ай бұрын
Spectacle
@alexis-wf9lk
@alexis-wf9lk 8 ай бұрын
@@emilylee5620andrew was definitely a lot more hostile
@scarletpsycho5384
@scarletpsycho5384 7 ай бұрын
Blossom is one of the most hypocritical people I’ve ever seen, no one was being rude or discriminating her, yet she pulled the victim card and not only did she act like she was the only poc in the room but she was the only one using her racial/ethnic background as an accuse to belittle everyone around her
@nashocheese
@nashocheese 7 ай бұрын
That truly was hypocritical. I think at that point in the discussion she lost the room and everyone kind of got the feeling she was Irrational.
@xHighgatex
@xHighgatex 7 ай бұрын
Me as a black person watching she did not have to pull the race card at any point in this video. She’s surrounded by people who welcomes all that she is. The fact that she pulled that and said other unnecessary things I’m just like 🤦🏻‍♂️
@adelegatimbirizo7696
@adelegatimbirizo7696 7 ай бұрын
@@xHighgatexliterally, like what does race have to do with with this debate at any point? Uuuuggghhhhh 😒
@liameiliana7899
@liameiliana7899 7 ай бұрын
i watched blossom in other videos and yes she is problematic. Like when she was arguing with amala, in trans vs concervative woman. When it comes to her argument, everything is valid, but the same thing applied to the opposite argument it's not anymore.
@jazmin2463
@jazmin2463 7 ай бұрын
Agreed!!!!! Blossom has major mentally internal issues, blossom has to figure that out personally way before being on any panel going forward. Almost all of the liberal side needs to sit and reflect. Almost all of their responses were so disgustingly selfish.
@ZacharyMaslany
@ZacharyMaslany Ай бұрын
So dropping out of high school is like getting your weiner cut off? You can go back to school, ya can’t grow it back.
@superchef_trades4213
@superchef_trades4213 Ай бұрын
Blair OWNED this panel
@AngeliquesWings
@AngeliquesWings 7 ай бұрын
Ironic how Blossom pulled the race card every chance she got and used it against Blaire when she's literally mixed race herself
@jeffkennerson9116
@jeffkennerson9116 7 ай бұрын
always does in any KZfaq or media appearance,
@SimorneJanuarie
@SimorneJanuarie 7 ай бұрын
Just create a third space🤷🏽‍♀️
@dundermifflinscott2217
@dundermifflinscott2217 7 ай бұрын
That just means she is a little higher on the oppression ladder. Gotta feed that victim status
@valbankz292
@valbankz292 7 ай бұрын
Agree
@mimipenafiel3523
@mimipenafiel3523 7 ай бұрын
That is what ppl do when they have nothing to say.😊
@xxmira.1738
@xxmira.1738 7 ай бұрын
sara is so well-educated. i hate that they kept speaking over her when discussing the military ban cause she’s the actual veteran here😭!
@evepoole3966
@evepoole3966 7 ай бұрын
So?
@whym3689
@whym3689 7 ай бұрын
@@evepoole3966so she knows what it’s actually like first hand experience. They’re all speaking from statistics and interviews while she’s BEEN THERE SHE WAS THERE. She’s literally the person they’re talking about
@georgiabluesjohnson4251
@georgiabluesjohnson4251 7 ай бұрын
Exactly it was so annoying like how are u gonna talk about the service but ur not even letting the ONLY veteran there speak about their real experience
@Random-sk6hm
@Random-sk6hm 7 ай бұрын
As a Liberal, I actually enjoyed her viewpoints. I hated Blair tho, she was so rude and KEPT interrupting. It felt like she was there to just peddle her arguments and not to debate. Blossom was also quite annoying too.
@WrongWayRomanGabe
@WrongWayRomanGabe 6 ай бұрын
I've seen her in other content/ videos..she always mentions THE SAME things over and over and only sites the 1,same source that she says b4, it's almost like she put together this list of stats. and factoids that's all well reversed and scripted..plus she's not only a CONSERVATIVE trans person, she's sitting with the SAME group of ppl that won't even call her and her & wouldn't cross the street to pass on if she was on fire, so that alone shows some red flags that I won't go into ab this 'person'...she also just gives off bad vibes.js
@pinoykablaz
@pinoykablaz 26 күн бұрын
Blossom: I’m speaking… Continues to interrupt others lol
@holdyourhorses7658
@holdyourhorses7658 Ай бұрын
They keep saying I don't know what's it like to be a nonbinary person, but isn't that sort of the point that the conservative side is trying to make? That's it's a different experience than their own?
@katiedrew9322
@katiedrew9322 15 күн бұрын
But that's why they're transgender men and women, and they're trans non binary. All the trans women and men will say they're men and women, just not cis men and cis women.
@ReneeBuhrow2008
@ReneeBuhrow2008 7 ай бұрын
Blossom just pissed me off. Victimizing herself and pulling the "as a black trans woman" card to get away with what she was saying. The blatant disrespect for NOT only Blaire but for everyone else speaking was so prominent.
@MissingOurMissingPod
@MissingOurMissingPod 7 ай бұрын
All of the “conservative” people were so level headed. I didn’t think anything they were saying was at all conservative or bad or crazy - it was simple common sense. Blossom was batsh*t insane. It’s clear he has a mental illness.
@Poetic_cynn
@Poetic_cynn 7 ай бұрын
She gives “black trans Karen” vibes
@rosecanpunchmeandIwouldsaysorr
@rosecanpunchmeandIwouldsaysorr 7 ай бұрын
@@Poetic_cynnI mean she IS. She‘s unbearable af.
@red_calla_lily
@red_calla_lily 7 ай бұрын
​@@Poetic_cynnNo, she's just an aggressive guy in a wig. There's nothing feminine about her, it's all toxic masculinity.
@djgeneralbounce
@djgeneralbounce Ай бұрын
​@@Poetic_cynnhe's probably one of those who would say you're racist for using the "angry black Karen" trope when he's behaving exactly like that
@brianparent4882
@brianparent4882 8 ай бұрын
If you don’t want to be interrupted don’t do it to others. Being black has nothing to do with it.
@erenjaeger1738
@erenjaeger1738 8 ай бұрын
The definition of "Wokness"
@localhotti3
@localhotti3 8 ай бұрын
Blaire also interrupted throughout this entire debate btw
@octavialafontaine7090
@octavialafontaine7090 8 ай бұрын
@@erenjaeger1738The word wokeness, where does it come from? It can also be seen as bullying to use that term.
@tchallasqueen4861
@tchallasqueen4861 8 ай бұрын
Yes I agree. So cringe when statement was made
@apollooncancr0_876
@apollooncancr0_876 8 ай бұрын
@@octavialafontaine7090 the progressives who invented this term for themselves, as they consider themselves to be the ones with their eyes open, but little by little conservatives turn it into an insult because of the amount of stupidity coming from progressives.
@fraunggun9055
@fraunggun9055 Ай бұрын
As a person that live in the country that rich in LGBTQ+, and be a part of this. I can confirm that majority people or LGBTQ+ community in Thailand would definitely agree with conservative side.
@Nichole.Monroe
@Nichole.Monroe 21 күн бұрын
As a trans person who has always considered themselves a liberal thinker... this liberal panel came off as creepy and scummy.
@futilerecordings
@futilerecordings 7 ай бұрын
Blossom is a proven liar! Amala Ekpunobi showed the text messages from when she allegedly "blindsided" her by having Buck Angel debate her on her show. Turns out Blossom was well aware Buck was gonna be there. On top of that, she accused Buck (without evidence) of calling a black woman a monkey, which Buck Vehemently denied. She is a horrible person. I mean... HORRIBLE!
@user-dl1kr5ov1y
@user-dl1kr5ov1y 7 ай бұрын
Oh. Didn't know about that. Thank you for the information :-)
@titanblade3706
@titanblade3706 7 ай бұрын
When Buck asked for receipts and asked the panel to search for the video Blossom was talking about, Blossom had to hurry up and say “allegedly” even though she was outright accusing Buck of being racist. She never apologized either. Terrible
@JMBBrasil
@JMBBrasil 7 ай бұрын
Yes! Horrible! And I’m gonna say it, not really trans! That’s a narcissistic men in search of power!
@terrancecloverfield6791
@terrancecloverfield6791 7 ай бұрын
Oh. Can you provide the title of the video? I'd like to watch it. I know both Amala and Buck and would love to see this.
@titanblade3706
@titanblade3706 7 ай бұрын
@@terrancecloverfield6791 link to what?
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