Wow thanks for the explanation, happy to hear that there is still hope yet for amd in UE5 titles. Ngl the 50%(sometimes more) performance hit we take in cyberpunk, plus the inherently worse looking RT is kinda soulcrushing haha

@@KrushSG Sadly it's not MUCH better, just not as awful. RDNA 4 is rumored to actually move the BVH problem into the GPU itself, so AMD should get a performance much closer to Nvidia...we'll know around the end of next year. Cheers

Hmm that I actually don't know cos I've never tried it. I know some texture mods specifically require you to set textures to high in order for them to work so that may be a bad idea. For HD reworked you could try the balanced version or if that's too much then I'd actually say sticking with the vanilla textures but going with the high setting may be better.

@@KrushSG yeah. I have a rtx 3070 laptop. Msi gp76 which I undervolted and applied Liquid Metal. I haven’t tested cyberpunk since the 1.6 update and I hear optimisation is much improved since then. I’ll give it a try and get back to you with what I’ve seen. Thank you for the reply

It IS dumb haha, and not just the singleplayer part. Dropping top dollar on a gpu that only 1 or 2 games can actually benefit from isn't a wise choice, period. Unless it is for a game that you can see yourself playing exclusively for a few years, or it's your job etc, yea maybe. Perhaps when 7-8 out of every 10 games have (properly) good RT, then it would make more sense. Then again, by the time that happens, lord knows what Nvidia would have come up with to drive gpu prices up further. Soul Tracing perhaps. And AMD will gladly follow their lead, giving us a 30% discount on Nvidia's prices for proportionally less "features", fooling the masses into thinking they are the angels that they really aren't.

@@KrushSG right on

I use to be all about MP games now enjoy SP more. Not saying you are dumb to avoid SP games to avoid your gp not being able to handle the RT but its strange. I agree in MP games you want speed less lag and graphics don't matter as much. I played the fastest MP Q1 ctf, Q2 ctf, URT2004 ctf etc. Speed is king there. But avoid SP games due to your card means you are missing out on some gems. It boils down to money and AMD 6800 is a decent bang for the buck with its 16GB. That said I prefer my 4070 and did pay more for the RT abilities and it pays off big in "Some" games not all. You now play RTX quake 2 on AMD and get around 60fps on a 6800 so you are not cut off completely with AMD.

​@@KrushSG You know, there are some people who buy 4090 and 1000-4000$ setup (joysticks, panels, VR) only for one game, MFS or DCS World. Are they stupid? For me it is stupid to buy the latest Iphone and use it only for chatting and watching KZfaq/Tiktok/etc.

Haha ikr, it's the best troll car. Yes I modded the car with Car Modification Shop. Yep, unfortunately that's how it is with RT. It is a technology pioneered by Nvidia and they are constantly releasing upgrades for it so AMD is just left playing catch up. Not that amd has much hope of actually catching up anytime soon imo, the difference in rt capabilities are just too big.

@@KrushSG I watched a video that said amd is rumored to be working on a dual chip gpu, maybe that'll give them the needed boost.

as much as i like AMD and want to support them.. when looking at pure power consumption of both latest cards, nvidia wins hands down. AMD just drinks power on their last couple gens of video cards *although their cpu's have always been rather amazing*. Nvid is just less, heat, less fan speed (noise), longer life. not to mention trying to resell an amd card is meh. you lose a lot. reselling nvidia cards is easy and they hold value way longer.

You goddamn right

I'm sure there are more than a few amd users out there who wish they had gotten a 40 series GPU. For me personally, as someone who did the opposite and downgraded from a 4090 to a 7900xtx, the 4090 is pretty much the only Nvidia card I'd personally ever consider owning(in this gen, at this point in time, assuming I had the spare cash). Where amd users of today tend to live in a world of denial that amd cards are actually competitive(they really aren't other than maybe dollar per raster frame), Nvidia users of today equally love to tell themselves RT is actually good right now to justify their purchases. Cos it really isnt, yet. There's no denying RT is superior to raster, the question is whether the current implementation of it is and to me the answer is no. Do we have many games that support RT in 2023/early 2024? Sure. Ones that actually do RT well enough for it to be categorically superior to raster? Nope. Only a very small handful of games do that, and yes they do it really well and no cyberpunk isn't one of them. The gap in visual quality between RT and PT in cyberpunk is just mindboggling. So as far as ray tracing goes in cyberpunk, it's full PT or nothing for me(maybe RT local shadows, that's worth turning on). But to have PT at the resolutions I game at, that's basically a 4090 or nothing. Just my personal opinion of course. I don't deny the new supers bring way better value than their non super counterparts. It's actually completely logical now for someone to buy any of the supers, even the 4080 super. Though again, I wouldn't, if I go green, it's 4090 or bust. That card is too much of a beast over the rest. It's a shame cos if they had bumped the 4080 super up to 20gb along with the price reduction, I woulda sold my 7900xtx and jumped ship instantly. Heck I might even have paused if they went up to 20gb without the price reduction. But alas it wasn't so. Next gen maybe, 5090 or whatever it's called. Oh also, the cost of psycho ssr is not the same as RTR. It's slightly cheaper at native resolutions and significantly so as soon as you flip on any upscaler. It's real easy to test too. I personally get 90fps at native with ssr ultra. It drops to 58-62 with ssr psycho. This drops to ~50-53 with RTR, it's worse in wet weather but let's just say it's a ~10% difference. At FSR quality, ssr psycho gives me 100-105 fps, vs 72-77 with RTR(half resolution tracing to boot), a very much bigger difference. I could flip on a whole bunch of other RT effects if I wanted to with psycho ssr, I can't with RTR unless I step down to FSR balanced. And let's be real... It's FSR we're talking about, we don't really wanna go below quality if possible lol.

It was just too much money where I live, I bought it out of curiosity knowing I could sell it for a profit in the month it took the xtx to launch. The 7900xtx red devil was $1800(~$1.3k usd), the 4090, and only a windforce mind you, was $2700(~$2k usd). I eventually sold it for a $150 profit so I "saved" $1050(almost $800usd) going for the xtx instead. I just don't need the extra rt performance, not for the whole 2 games that actually look great atm anyway. Maybe next gen I'll relent and actually stick with an rtx card if amd doesn't improve rt performance, by then we'll probably have more rt heavy games. We honestly need more games that implement RT and PT as well as cyberpunk and AW2 have done. I actually prefer Cyberpunk's PT implementation over AW2's though. Granted, AW2 looks positively better at almost every quality setting but its path tracing specifically is actually kinda misleading. Cyberpunk's PT is truer to the definition of what Path Tracing is(100% full ray traced GI, with stock GI disabled entirely), AW2's PT is selective with what it traces and it has a lot of fallback to stock GI, which carries over errors from non-RT shadows and occlusion. That type of tracing is exactly how regular Ray Tracing functions in most games(including cyberpunk). So really AW2 should have labelled it as the Highest RT setting rather than labelling it as PT.

​@@KrushSG it's even worse right now. 7900XTX going for more or less the same price as launch but 4090's are going for S$3000 minimum, some of the Asus ones are over S$4K now.

Wow you are right! I just looked at the latest pricelists, this is madness! Maybe I should have held on to the 4090, selling it now woulda made my 7900 even cheaper haha

something is wrong with the world when a desktop GPU costs more than most 18-28 years old humans cars. Its so stupid. I still run a GTX 1070 I bought in late 2016 i think it was. Cyberpunk is totally playable since 2.0 hit and looks damn good.@@KrushSG love your content though thanks for introducing me to tons of these mods my game looks amazing now. :)

Nvidia's prices aren't worth it. It's like buying an iPhone instead of an Android 😅