Is Scorn The Best Or The Worst Giger-Inspired Game?

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EphiTV

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Күн бұрын

Scorn is one of those games that's gained a ton of buzz over the years solely for the visuals. Obviously they nailed that aspect. But now that we can actually play it, does it hold up? Is it worth playing over all the other Giger-inspired games from the past? Let's investigate.
Scorn: store.steampowered.com/app/69...
Chapters
00:00 The Competition
01:32 Visuals
02:18 Story
03:22 Gameplay
03:55 Puzzles
05:14 Combat
07:15 Animations
07:55 Game Design
08:51 Final Thoughts
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@samwill7259
@samwill7259 Жыл бұрын
Saying Giger is "not safe for youtube" is like saying a bellyflop onto concrete from 10 stories up is "incompatible with continued good health"
@codylambert9451
@codylambert9451 Жыл бұрын
I think I'm pretty much on the same page as you. I dig slow paced games that make you think and I really appreciate it when devs try to focus on mechanics that aren't just "shoot the bad guy". Then I played Scorn. I was disappointed in myself for getting bored so quickly and wishing for a more combat focused experience. Maybe if the puzzle elements were injected or hidden inside combat situations? Pasting a bunch of combination puzzles overtop of cool Gigery/Cronenbergy visuals reminded me of those old educational games I would play on the school library computer. Like, sure there's a caterpillar eating apples... but we all know I'm just answering a bunch of math questions.
@EphiTV
@EphiTV Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'd really like to see them partner up with a more experienced studio. They definitely have potential, if they can get someone else to refine the gameplay next time around.
@ace6035
@ace6035 Жыл бұрын
I would like to say there is kinda a sneak mechanic, almost all the enemies you encounter can be avoided, like when you first see them, back up if they haven’t seen you. Go to the last room and they will just slowly crawl away going to where they want. Most people hate the fighting but no one knows that it can be avoided easily. Search up aleckermit and his video “your playing scorn wrong” showcases this really well. Good video tho
@EphiTV
@EphiTV Жыл бұрын
I noticed that worked for some enemies, but others would just wait for you. Still, weird decision to make "standing around a while" the best solution to the combat.
@Kethra430
@Kethra430 Жыл бұрын
Game is all look no game
@someperson9
@someperson9 Жыл бұрын
I feel like dialogue and text would have changed the game a little more, but nonetheless, it really did need some kind of goal, and not just, "Oh, next section!"
@CinnamonToastKing
@CinnamonToastKing Жыл бұрын
Oh man this is so spot on with exactly how I feel and all the things I complained about almost to the T with this game. Also with a very similar thing happening. I crashed during the last boss then when I reloaded no matter what I was at 1 fps. No way I was playing through all that again. Just like I'll always say, visually this game is a masterpiece just like Silt, Papertura, and Stray. Buy those games actually felt good to play. Nothing about Scorn feels good to play and I could never recommend a game on visuals alone. (Which apparently is what 90% of positive reviews are it seems....) Seriously though....its haunting how exact your feelings and thoughts are to mine. This is my now go to video if anyone wants to know how I feel!
@dearhorse085
@dearhorse085 Жыл бұрын
maybe if they nerfed the enemies or beefed up the guns an added an option to skip the puzzles it would be a better experience
@bananaGoochOil
@bananaGoochOil Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t get past the very first egg puzzle even with a tutorial. Then I refunded the game
@aortaplatinum
@aortaplatinum 6 ай бұрын
I experienced the inverse of most people's disappointment with Scorn. I remember people thinking it was going to be a horror shooter and were disappointed when it was a MYST-like first person puzzle game but with a GARAGE Bad Dream Adventure look- but I played it way after release and knew what it was, I WANTED that first person horror puzzle experience. And that's what I got, and I really enjoyed it... for the first 2 hours. Then it turned into a terrible survival horror shooter with some of the most frustrating compat I've ever experienced in any game I've played. This could have been a fantastic Portal style puzzler that really leaned into the horror, but it’s only a decent puzzle game for the first 2/3rds and then becomes a godawful shooter in the last third. The game isn't good at either of it's gameplay styles.
@glitchrr36
@glitchrr36 Жыл бұрын
I liked it but that’s because I went in wanting to do nothing but look around at my own pace and was willing to put up with bad everything else. Those spin puzzles were just the worst though.
@Gameloent
@Gameloent Жыл бұрын
scorn has inventory? I always switched weapons using 1, 2, 3 and never saw any inventory open animation like that 07:30
@EphiTV
@EphiTV Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Number keys and mouse wheel did nothing for me, maybe my game was just bugged.
@deadweightnero
@deadweightnero Жыл бұрын
ephi can you look through ultrakill and see if theres anything interesting in the files?
@EphiTV
@EphiTV Жыл бұрын
I'd have to play it first. Been meaning to check it out but I've got a pretty long list of stuff I want to play.
@deadweightnero
@deadweightnero Жыл бұрын
@@EphiTV ok
@Byronze
@Byronze Жыл бұрын
Request: Would love to see your opinion on the Amnesia: The Dark Descent Ninja edit: How tf have you not blown up with millions of subs? This channel is a goldmine
@EphiTV
@EphiTV Жыл бұрын
I think context matters a lot for the first Amnesia. It was very unique at the time, but a lot of games have copied it since. SOMA is one of my all-time faves though.
@DianaTaffie
@DianaTaffie Жыл бұрын
...i love dearly both Agony and Scorn :c And Myst, yeah. Granted, i also love hardcore puzzles even if they drive me insane, i am very much used to jank, suffering is my game and AESTHETICS with AWESOME VISUALS genuinely make both amazing art pieces for me.
@EphiTV
@EphiTV Жыл бұрын
Haha. I did play Agony at release. Heard it was reworked many times over, but I don't know how it ended up. I don't mind some tough puzzles now and then but I have to feel like I'm working towards something (other than the art here). Antichamber comes to mind for being chock full of weird puzzles but still keeping it fresh all the way through. Or something like INSIDE where you have some nice visuals but also an intriguing story throughout.
@DianaTaffie
@DianaTaffie Жыл бұрын
@@EphiTV ironically, ANTICHAMBER made me very, very mad, because of how those puzzles were not working with my brain. Guess i was too autistic for it.
@EphiTV
@EphiTV Жыл бұрын
It's very weird. Almost all of it works counter to how you'd expect a puzzle game to behave. I dig how it constantly toys with your expectations but I definitely get how that can be frustrating.
@alecpalmer1538
@alecpalmer1538 Жыл бұрын
"Glad to see he finally got a mouth" lmao. But does he scream?
@EphiTV
@EphiTV Жыл бұрын
Indeed he does.
@alecpalmer1538
@alecpalmer1538 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful, what a glow-up.
@unduloid
@unduloid Жыл бұрын
What, no mention of Zdzisław Beksiński?
@EphiTV
@EphiTV Жыл бұрын
His work inspired parts of the game for sure. But in the context of the many Giger-related games, only some of them reference Beksiński. I decided to keep the topic centered around games Giger directly inspired, to not get too far off-track.
@brendanjamieson
@brendanjamieson Жыл бұрын
I am a hardcore fan of Giger and Myst and this still wasn't the game for me :|
@DarkWestern
@DarkWestern Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: It's pronounced GHEE-GHUR 😸
@EphiTV
@EphiTV Жыл бұрын
It's interesting, as far as Ive heard, Giger was derived from the German Geiger. The latter we pronounce how I did in the video (a la geiger counter, etc.) But I believe you. Swiss German is a very interesting dialect.
@DarkWestern
@DarkWestern Жыл бұрын
@@EphiTV An excellent reply, if there's any doubt in your mind, watch some interviews with him, and you'll be able to hear the interviewer, as well as Hans introducing himself in his native tongue :)
@lukemorgan6166
@lukemorgan6166 Жыл бұрын
If this game is a few years old why is it blowing up all of a sudden?
@EphiTV
@EphiTV Жыл бұрын
It released recently. It first got popular around 2016 when it was on kickstarter.
@tobiaswerner4418
@tobiaswerner4418 Жыл бұрын
Did you run out of frames after 2:18?
@EphiTV
@EphiTV Жыл бұрын
The game had lots of random frame drops. Sometimes it was smooth, but it was pretty inconsistent.
@justnotmyrealone
@justnotmyrealone Жыл бұрын
how "q3 style" agile do you want the halfway born protagonist to be who has literaly two arms stuck in his intestines?
@EphiTV
@EphiTV Жыл бұрын
I didn't think the movement speed was too bad, although lots of reviews focus on that. Mostly just the long animations that you see a hundred times over.
@PaleRust
@PaleRust Жыл бұрын
Shame you had a bad time with the game. I would say is definitely an acquired taste, its totally fair some people won't like the game (specially for the price and the lenght). Personally, I loved the experience. Like lots I watched the trailers and gameplay and that told me the combat was not going to be something one could rely on. At least for me it was pretty clear from the trailers the combat was going to be super slow. Believe ir or not I enjoyed more Scorn than Alien Isolation.
@EphiTV
@EphiTV Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I can definitely see where it stuck for people. I feel bad for the Myst fans who rarely get new games that are even vaguely similar to those adventure puzzlers back in the day. I'd love to see them work with a more established studio. There's definitely some potential in merging their excellent art skills with some more experienced game designers.
@dimas3829
@dimas3829 Жыл бұрын
It's great piece of art.... piece of shit attempt of a game, though. No plot, no characters, clunky action, half a puzzle and that's it.
@hayden1578
@hayden1578 Жыл бұрын
first!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@deadweightnero
@deadweightnero Жыл бұрын
shut it
@lukemorgan6166
@lukemorgan6166 Жыл бұрын
Cringe
@-TriP-
@-TriP- Жыл бұрын
If you fought any of the enemies other than the last "boss" then you played the game wrong. You're not supposed to fight ANYTHING. Every single enemy in the game can be avoided or will just leave if you have a minute's patience.
@EphiTV
@EphiTV Жыл бұрын
The design is really at odds if you're not supposed to fight anything. Why give you multiple weapons and health/ammo stations every so often? I doubt they intended for players to just afk every enemy or skip combat altogether. It's a strange "feature" either way.
@-TriP-
@-TriP- Жыл бұрын
@@EphiTV Deliberately trolling the player I guess lol... I like to imagine that the devs knew a lot of FPS meatheads were going to play it based on the XBox trailers/showcase and this was their way of saying "fine, you want shooty-bang combat? well here you go then!" 🙃
@-TriP-
@-TriP- Жыл бұрын
I'm sure they were happy about Microsoft funding their ambitious project but I'm also sure there must have been some resentment there. These guys were clearly just in it for the art.
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